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5500 is definitely much more improved than 3300, I like the way it runs with intelligent levelling and pre-doors. I've been in a couple recently (my first ever 5500's) and I was really impressed with them!
5500 isn't an improvement over the 3300. 5500 is an update to Eurolift. It has the new logic, the belt cables and new motor, and new buttons. The 3300 is a cheap version which Schindler made to lower their prices.
New capacitive buttons and added 3 m/s speed.
Schindler 5500 goes up to 3 m/s. While Schindler EuroLift and 5400 are either 1, 1.6 or 2.5 m/s but 2400, 2500 and 2600 are either Hydraulic or MRL Traction 0.15-1.6 m/s.
The 3300 voice that is used in England (ex. floor 1, or floor 0) can also be used in American/Canadian installations but NOT ON 3300's. They have used on installations like the 400A/400AE (now discontinued, correct me if wrong), but I seen some on PORT installations or mods (newer installations as before Schindler used the American voice).
Regarding the 5500 voice, the one that has the word "Elevator" is also used in 5500 installations in USA/Canada. Except, they do not feature the door annoucements, as that is only for PORT installations when the handicap feature is activated (correct me if wrong).
The chasiss is made of cold formed steel and the tracks of hot rolled steel. Usually cold formed steel looks and feels flimsy, but that's because it's folded sheetmetal. The steel quality is quite different to hot rolled steel. Hot rolled is actually a lower quality steel. The flimsy sheet metal actually has a higher yield strength and young's modulus then hot rolled steel. This is the reason they can make it thinner. Hot rolled profiles are usually used for big structural components of buildings and cold formed for mefal-stud profiles that are used in partition walls with gypsum board. Lift companies use cold formed steel for practial reasons, it's lighter and sufficiently strong. Personally I prefer big hot rolled profiles like HEA beams. I must say that tracks have a rather low second moment of inertia compared to what I'm used to when designing building structures......
I do not know much about materials. With lift chassis I call a standard lift from the 60s margeish metal beam across the top a proper chassis. A 60s goods lift or high speed lift where the chassis comes up to chest height I call a heavy duty chassis. A lift with just a beam across the top that isn't very large I call a small chassis. These beams are all the standard type of industrial beam that you see on many uses. Modern lifts often have what looks like a split beam where the beam across the top is in two half like on this lift. I don't know the strengths of these. Do you think the chassis on this lift is the equivalent of what sort of 60s lift (as you say it is of a stronger material).
Those old chassis where often made from UNP profiles (or similair). The lift cab itself was just a box inside the frame between the tracks. Only that frame + the floor where structural components (except for heay goods lifts). Modern chassis have a different design philosophy. There, the entire lift cab is a structural component, including the sheet metal wall panels. Both designs are able to deal with the forces subejcted to them. I'm not a mechanical engineer so I don't know much about structures in motion. Mechanical engineers often only design with steel and things that are manufactured to high quality standards and fine dimensional tolerances. When you design with brick, wood or concrete the tolerances are not as precise and safety the factors in the material strength and the load are much bigger. We use a lot of "reduction factors" in the strength to accomate for poor workmanship on the building site. Mechanical engineers that design lifts have it much better as they don't have to deal with "artisan" tolerances. If you look closely in the lift shaft, you'lle see how much washers are used to space the mounting hardware for the tracks, shaft walls aren't necessarily smooth or plumb. Brick is in fact a terrible material to mount things on, it's pretty soft. Reinforced concrete walls are preferable because of the strength and the ease in which you can embed mounting hardware into the formwork.
Typically ordinary hot rolled steel has a yield stress of 235 N/mm² (MPA) That is 23,5 kg on a single sqaure millimetre of cross section. The ropes can easily be over 1500 N/mm².
Apparently the “elevator going up” voice is Australian
Great video Mr Beno!!!
I love Schindler lifts
Me too
I'm liking wood effect panelling. Is the SIM card for the emergency phone?
On the bright side, they put a go button on the inspection panel this time. I do think it is an improvement from the 3300 but it would be better if the pole clamps were stronger
Do most lifts have enough room at the top of the shaft to surf at full speed and not worry about stopping it?
Most lifts have plenty of room. But lifts with folding fences, lifts with no fence, and hydraulic lifts might not have much room.
Wow I go in a 5500 at my shop it has a set of 2 I also looked up the shaft and saw the motor 1 time I saw one had shaft lights on while it was running not on fire mode and I got to go in it
I quite like the Schindler 5500. However, as you said, there are still trade offs that you get like the motor sitting on the tracks and those rubbish looking rods holding up the cables which look ridiculously small. The logic is nice as it is efficient with intelligent levelling but it is also bad because of its lockdown thing. I think if the poles were stronger and thicker and the tracks were not supporting the whole thing and the logic is not as restricted then this would be a great lift
can you do a detailed look at a Schindler 3300
now when I watch this video bout 6 years after being uploaded its pretty fun if you take in mind what TKE now builds on average. Your description of them being not much more than a Spanish generic does well. Compared to this, the 5500 is a far better lift. In my opinion, the 5500 - from the perspective of a passenger - feels like it is built of suitable quality. Although I got to point out that they most-likely won't live as long as an old relay-controlled lift. I wonder what they do when the 5500s get old and are due to modernisation.
This dude is going up in the world 😂
Beno, which lift would you say is better? Schindler 5500 or Kone Ecodisc?
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cool lift video beno
what do you mean the logic is locked? did you try ABCD?
you can basically access everything from the SMLCD
I have heard from someone else that (at least some) Schindler lifts require some sort of special gadget to unlock it
it has a "BABY CHASSIS"
that is look like m-series
MRL
5500 & 3300
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3300
Americas 5500 direction announcements are ELEVATOR IS GOING UP/DOWN
U FORGOT THE CHIMEEEEEEE😮
Me too
Sar isko sikane ka tarika to batoao saru se last tak
Marking Kasey karte hai 3300. Ki sari jankari bato
When you say "Eurolift" do you mean the actual Eurolift, or do you mean the Schindler 5400, because they use the same fixtures, but are not the same thing!