RC Plane with 3d-printed Motor and 3d-printed Propeller
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- This video is about RC Plane with 3d-printed Motor and a 3d-printed Propeller. Motor performs with 100W and 70% efficiency. 400g thrust at 8300rpm. STL-Files and building instructions are published on makeSEA.
www.makesea.com/brushless-motor
www.makesea.com/propellers - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I am impressed about the power this motor can deliver with a plastic stator! l didnt know rc motors made with plastic stators could make any model plane to take off. Congrats!
Fantastic project. So glad to hear another Swiss genius on YT.
Cheers
This is seriously good work. Congrats and thank you so much for sharing the files and explanation.
Wow, that's some clever stuff, love those prop designs,
Impressive project, congratulations! Looking forward to see the next iteration/plane. :-)
This is a very interesting experiment. Thank you for sharing your videos and the documentation (including the files).
Mr Laimer, Impressive work. Your creation is fascinating.
Really cool man. And i had never heard of MakeSea until now. Nice find!
wow. what a fun build. so fun. great project to teach a kid elctronics and 3d printing.
Great project! It would be interesting to see the steps designing a propeller in CAD especially with specific measurements.
Whaau..mind blowing..Christoph
I haven't even finished watching the video. AWESOME sir!. I've been designing the same thing on and off for a year. Still have not built it. Well done.
Most impressed.
Thanks for sharing. (I will have to download the stl though)
thanks again.
This is an excellent project which reduces a number of old skills to something simpler using modern technology. In the old days the product was more sophisticated than the tools that made it, now it is a case that the product is never as complicated as the tool that made it.
In this particular case there are such a lot of sciences and skills that were reduced to a computer programme. But even so the skills of the practical side need to be known as to how much fusion does takes place to make a strong propeller and in addition to all the automatic components there is the winding and the placement of the magnets to produce a rotating magnetic field.
There is such a lot of appreciation and while we are at it , I would say that better streamlines support spokes could have been incorporated to keep the shroud of the propeller, being round they would have a lot of drag and turbulence. I love the manner in which the spinner incorporated part of the propeller, excellently conceived.
In a few years time no company will keep spare parts, but just a 3D printer in the corner somewhere and it will be used every time the spare part is needed. When the companies would sell you is the programme to do it with!!
Really I do not like the way we are going as education is producing people who do not seem to go through the whole education of the requirements to know such deep detail about many components. I feel that countries which produced oil seem to buy products which they own and the pride of ownership does never top the pride to have grown with the product from its conception and its making......... there are so many components in the human person which do not develop just because one owns a product or knows how to operate a machine. So modern people should be aware of the fact that knowing how to fill time sometimes needs careful consideration as there are moments when we are all alone without any machines around and we still have to keep same with a good mental state and good physical strength so one needs to improvise a system where one exercises the physical and the mental state of mind without so many sophisticated machines around to help you. Still it is a nice life we now lead but one must not despair when all machines around us do not work!!
It is the last day of the year 2016 so a happy and healthy new year 2017 to all. Congratulations the making of this project it is excellent in every way.
impresive. thank you for sharing your analysis work
Very nice and interesting .. thank you for sharing
I am just seeing this now in 2022. The concept didn't even occur to me. A 3d printed motor and stator are amazing ideas and I'm sure more power and efficiency has been obtained. I'd love to use this for some experements
Good job! I am impressed!
what a smart guy... perfect print stuff just slid in place..
I suppose a much larger motor would be possible? Something similar to a Turnigy rotomax could be very interesting and with a low KV setup it could be quite robust
Awesome! Good job Chris, I hope you get the plane flying again with a better center of gravity.
Great, I am going to try to reproduce with my Engineering Students in the Course of Introduction to Electric Motor Design. Thank soooo muchhh Christoph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, Best Regards from the North of Spain
what a great project. great one to teach kids electronics and 3d :)
minskmade I
definitely suitable for kids
I thoroughly recommend Polymaker PC-Max filament. It's VERY strong, creates beautiful parts and can take more heat...
Nice project! Efficiency is higher, than I would expect. The material has only poor magnetic properties compared to real silicon steel laminations. And the rotor has no backiron. So there is an additional "air gap" in the flux pattern behind the magnets. Use a steel ring (tube cutting) instead. You can also integrate the ring in a printed part. This will also dramatically increase the strenght of the rotor and also the max rpm.
cris .. you Rock !!
Very Nice work!
Congratulations! Is an awesome video
wow! really nice, is it scalable? so could you just scale it up by 2 change some minor things and use it, that would be awesome!
SUPER COOL thats CRAZY impressive
really nice work
This is fantastic.
Wow, nice work. I saw the thumb for the video in the sidebar and I was like "Oh bullshit, you did not *print* your frickin motor." I stand corrected!
Wonderful project! I have seen your other videos as well and all of them are very informative.
Regarding this video, at 4:13 to 4:15 you mentioned that plane takes an uncontrolled left turn; could that be due to gyroscopic effect introduced by the motor?
Very impressive!
Молодец! Шикарная работа!!!
Great work.
Just finished printing the Rotor with absolutely ZERO warping in ABS on COLD plate with 100% infill, .100 height and 260C nozzle temp, no raft, 4 layer skirt, 15 skirt outlines, 0.0 skirt offset and it came out BEAUTIFULLY after 11:23H!!!
Very impressive !!
Excellent video. Thank you so much for sharing. I'm hoping to get me a 3d printer soon. Will be trying this. Link to your video will be saved for future reference. :)
Abdu ElRhoulm
That is impressive. I'm wondering that can the design be modified to convert the motor into a magnetic floating vertical axle bearing? Basically frictionless magnetic rotary bearing.
nice work!!!!! ~Russ
Well, this has been added to my project list. Awesome inspiration for me. Thanks!
very cool project
Amazing & creative!
I enjoyed watching. Keep up the good work!
sir, i already admired your work and time when doing 3d print. it's awesome
Nice project! Awesome ;)
Thank you so much for sharing
Amazing video! I wish I had a 3D printer
BEAUTIFUL! have you considered smoothing the props surface with acetone vapor? I think it will be more efficient.
Damn that is impressive.
Congratulation! very good job.
3D printer technology is improving really fast and prices are lower.
Interesting and Creatively
Excellent
Printed and obtained all parts for the smaller motor but really need help with the Stator Winding Core. Any chance of a video showing how to wire this part?? Once mastered I want to build one of your 600w design.
How did you design the parametric propeller? What tools did you use, and what were your design criteria?
Absolutelly fantastic work !!!! Would it be suitable to a quadcopter drone ?
damn god BRAVO ! quelle qualité d'impression, et vous semblez avoir fait un excellent travail de rédaction sur votre site web, j'y fonce! (what a print accuracy, and you seem to have redacted an great amount of knowledge on your web site, I run there right now! )
killer stuff dude you make me feel small
amazing!
parabens, projeto muito bom ,gostei desses motores faceis de fabricar numa 3d ,so um detalhe ,onde encontro rolamento para esse projeto obrigado
Have you thought about running a carbon or aluminum rod to the propeller and placing the engine more towards the front, or would it not survive the torque?
Would you please make a video, showing everyone how you wrapped the copper wire around the stator. I really would like to see the pattern.
There are illustrations and a description on www.makesea.com/brushless-motor - you have to scroll down a few pages.
Would it be possible to print larger multi-section blades, with 1-2 carbon fiber rods inside them and epoxied together? Ie take the blade, cut it down the middle so it's half length, add a small hole or two for the rods, then print each half? I'm thinking for something like a 26x10" prop, 2, 3, or 4 blades. My build area is only ~ 8.5-9" (standard typical first machine size of 220x220x250 or so); assuming I did a blade diagnally, the largest I could print would be approx 310mm, or about 12". that's about half of a 26" diameter blade, so I might be able to get away with doing each blade in a single go without having to epoxy or doing CF supports.
What material did you print the blades in? I was thinking of starting with ABS, then working my way into either CF/Nylon or even Polycarbonate. I was even thinking of using them to just get the shape I need, then either casting them, or making molds to lay some Carbon Fiber, and/or using them as cores for CF coated blades.
I wonder what the cost of making a motor yourself vs buying one off the shelf would be? Is there any advantage, did you do a cost comparison to a similar motor? I supposed at the very least for a given size/winding yours would be lighter due to the plastic vs aluminum motor housings.
great
amazing!!
NICE__WORK
Very good.
Wow I can't believe this is possible?! Great Job. Do you see an application for this tech seeing that a proper stator material like iron can give a motor half the size of yours 4 times the power? Are you planing to cast stators with 3d printed parts?
Thank you!
Impressive project. Congratulations +Christoph Laimer.
Have you considered improving the motor efficiency by improving the magnetic circuit reluctance by bridging the pure PLA parts with magnetic PLA?
I was considering a printed motor for a different project but naysayers dissuaded me. I think my mind just got changed again. thanks for the ideas
Never listen to naysayers, they always lack vision and always think only things that have 100% success rate are projects to explore, but the fun is to experiment and improve stuff with iterative progress and you learn alot by failing.
So true! Naysayers are just people not capable of doing it themselves 😂👍
How do you keep the plastic from melting?
Amazing
Hi
What is this sticker that you put in the build plate of the ultimaker?
You are genius! ;)
Very nice. One motor with fan blade can be arrange please
would the motor work in a multi-rotor copter without risk of burning out?
This is fantastic. Have you made your second plane yet?
you are a god I want this motor so bad
Awesome! Thank you for that project, I always wondered if this was possible. Next step: buy myself an 3d printer.
Woow ...perfect...
Nice work! I'm surprised you got that much power out of an ironless stator! :)
Great project, keep it up! I guess from your accent and from the markings on the plane, you're from Switzerland ;-)
nice ,these 3D printers are the future
THANK YOU
i like a lot you info i am congratulations thanks for share.
so what is the thrust measurement? I have a 3d printer. I want to make 400kv motor having 2000g thrust using 15" prop. I want to know if this is possible to do using plastic.
Nice, good job. Question, what do you account for such a large size in the motor relative to the power it produces? The over all size seems about 2-3x larger than a standard off the shelf motor with the same output.
much lower magnetic flux due to missing metal, and limited heat resistance because of plastic (metal temperature limit is over 120°C while plastic deforms already at 60°C). Copper losses need to be distributed over a larger area in order to not overheat the motor.
Christoph Laimer good point!
GO MAKER!
Better at electric motors than RC planes. Good work.
Great Video! I have a printer now and am interested in another one! I love the finish of this part and was wondering what printer you used? Thanks!
I'm using Ultimaker 2 and Replicator 2x (both are OK)
Would it be possible to decrease the number of magnets or use electromagnet I'm running low on magnets 😅😅
Awesome video and project! Is that a carbon-fiber bed in your ultimaker? Also, what filament type did you use for this?
Yes, it's carbon. Printing with PETG. Great adhesion at 80°C.
Christoph, on MakeSEA, I see the propeller page, and it says you can change the parameters of the props, but all that's there are STLs, .factory, STPs, and S3D files to download, only in 9x3 and 9x4... Any idea where the parametric part is available?
is the armature printed with the iron impregnated filament? i think its sometimes called magnetic filament. if not this needs it
The stator is printed with magnetic PLA from Proto Pasta. Rotor is PETG.
Very clean print, i see that you use some custom bedplate, is that carbon fiber plate ?
As well I see that you have excellent print must be full infill , what brand of PLA are you using.
I saw on your makesea page that you recommend petg. but for long print i wonder if warping won't be an issue.
Anyway bravo, you have put a lot of time into this.
It's a common carbon plate 2.5mm thick. Motor and Propeller are printed with PETG (for this application I don't like PLA, because it's much more unpredictable brittle). It's all from www.extrudr.eu. Their PETG doesn't warp, and has very consistent quality.
thanks you
what 3d printer would you recommend which is available at eBay
I was expecting you to use a beginner pusher to test the BLDC motor. Flight Test have some good models.
Oh i'd love to get my hands on that propeller STL... The video link is not working anymore, could You Update it? Thank You so much!!
Super!!!
I ordered a 3d printer today, hoping learning how to use design software to build accurate models of things i want to make.