thank you for also specifying the fact that some champions are better suited to low elo and others to high elo; for the listener, it's a huge help. I for example do "very well" with bel'veth even though I am bronze and with her, I don't know why, I have much more percentage wins than with shivana who, in theory, is far less mechanical.
Champion mastery is still the thing that matters most so play what you enjoy, however I believe a bronze player with 100 games of shyv has a higher winrate than a bronze player with 100 games of belveth. Hope this makes sense 💪
@@JungleGapGG Oh pls yes! been looking out for this. Not specifically to a patch but a one-trick 1v9 carry potential kind of list if u play it enough..
Discovered your channel thanks to your vid with Tinjus. Now it's been 2 weeks and i went from gold 1 to plat 2. Learning how to prevent counterplay definitively made a huge diff so thank you
im plat eme player and i was trying lots of champs to improve myself and choose 2-4 for my champion pool in ranked, and im impressed because almost every champ i felt the way you explained.
I’ve come to realize tier lists don’t really matter until high elo where people begin to understand comps. Low elo drafts are completely random and if you understand the game better and make better decisions you will beat anyone who plays worse regardless where their champ falls on a tier list.
It kinda does a lilia will have a way easier time compared to gragas especially if your just slightly better than your elo u are talking about if your literally smurfing in low elo but let's face noone in low elo is that much better than their elo also I much rather a low elo player played shyvanna compared to rengar or evelyn... now if a diamond player is playing in silver then it won't matter
@@PiscesSenpai exactly u think your so ahead when the other person is behind and still has some agency there is no world where eve can make the game unplayable for khazix unless its some kinda hard smurf thats going 20/0 which is not the reality in low elo otherwise they won't be low elo...
@@PiscesSenpai because people said its only relevant in high elo but low elo players are the same skill level as well making the same mistakes so obviously u gonna do better with a 0/5 s tier character compared to a 0/5 low tier character some champs are so broken u have to massively gap your opponent for it to matter
i noticed playing a lot of xin, xin is very advantage hungry and item hungry, if he doenst have advantage he is weak and becomes team reliant, which is not terrible, but in soloq you cant rely much on team sadly, xin very good for blocking ranged ultimates like mf ult jhin ult lux ult velkoz ult etc. so when i see a lot of ranged high impact threats (usually 2 or 3, 1 might be not be justified enough maybe except mf?)i might pick xin. his ultimate can provide crazy dmg mitigation for the team and turn around otherwise unwinnable teamfight, bait enemy ults, kite back, drag them into your vision territory and jump on them back with cooldowns advantage.
When he had the lethal tempo titanic build or the hob eclipse build he was a really strong carry. Now with the build being conq sundered sky, hes a lot less of a carry and used for pretty much just his early game fighting power. He was still being picked in competitive for the purpose he served, early game skirmish strength and strong 1-2 item power spike which is most important in comp for junglers as you usually get less gold.
If you like playing it and its working for you, its perfectly fine to play. You just need to be really good at him mechanically and have really good opportunity assessment (playing like a psycho going 20-0 with mejais) where the strength of the pick is you just outplaying everyone.
jarvan vi wukong, kinda semi jungle kings, but if you go in at wrong time, you lose, one mistake can lose game, okay j4 and wu can sometimes escape, but as vi you cannot escape that easy
No reason to play them in low elo with the intention to climb unless you really like them of course. They serve a specific comp purpose in high elo and competitive that dont translate the same to soloq and especially low elo.
mordekaiser jungle is great but not that consistent, because he is mostly farming jungler, his ganks are not that strong, unless he dives or has speedups ghost and rlyai slow, he can be a beast in lower ranks, in higher think its getting harder but depends comp vs comp setup like always
yes but that doesn't matter, you can say that about a lot of champions, a tier list is for consistency. Katarina is S tier when the enemy team has 0 cc, which happens in about 1% of the games, that doesn't mean she's a good pick.
RIP Rell in the jungle. She lost all monster modifiers on her abilities; in fact, Phreak said outright that they were killing her viability in the jungle.
can you explain what you mean about Kha being good in High Elo and Not So Good in Low Elos? when you mean it has a high skill ceiling does that mean that you need to be able to play it well mechanically for it to be good in low elo or is it a team-reliant pick and your team needs to be good?
Kha' Zix is good in low elo if you're smurfing, but if you belong to low elo you probably suck and would have a harder time playing him. Not only mechanically but the way a champion works demands a certain play style and game knowledge.
if you're bad and don't understand the game you will suck hard with kha, you might occasionally go 12-3 but you'll still lose because you don't understand your role/how to carry consistently with him.
Cause he's massively over played I think, it's probably the highest pick rate in jungle across all ranks and a lot of players probably don't play him as good as they should
@@PhO3NiX96 across all ranks viego is 10% compared to Lee sins 16% and lillia/nocturnes 8% Idk, I used to play viego a lot after his nerfs after he came out and he felt great but he just feels weak now. Not sure what they changed either between then and now since I took a break Also it's funny that he's 10% across all ranks but I have legit only seen him once in the last 2 weeks or so.
Honestly most AD junglers arent in the best spots, but out of them khazix/viego/hecarim/noc are the top 4. Viego is still always solid especially since items are good for him right now and he hasnt been nerfed, where as everything else has.
trundle and olaf can carry games which are otherwise uncarriable, olaf vs heavy cc runs and smashes enemy adc, if he has speedup he can murder adc with yuumi on top this adc or with help of yuumi he can do also wonders, trundle can be a semi peel, frontline destroyer, you ult steal enemy tank and destroy them with your botrk, bye bye frontline with little help of your team and then you delete the rest, those are nieche picks in certain comps vs certain comps, game knowledge required
I do agree olaf in the perfect comp scenario with a yuumi and a strong early game is A or even S tier but as you say it is niche. For a general tier list, olaf doesnt provide any significant strength and his heavily reliant on being massively ahead as he is a stat checking champion, with no consistent way to get ahead (doesnt have a fast clear/doesnt have good gank/easily kited). Both olaf and trundle are better off as top laners where they can actually get ahead and be ahead of the curve (high xp/gold)
mundo jungle can 1v5 but you have to pick it last pick to make sure enemy has no %hp max dmg available, no liandry, and if possible no botrk, no vayn etc.
Liandries always, then its either sunfire or warmogs. Take a look at lolvvv what pros are doing from different regions, try to look at when they build items depending on enemy comp.
I definitely agree that fiddle is usually sleeper, with the items being good for him and the full clear meta. I think you are right, when he gets picked more and becomes popular, people start expecting him and play around his ult better (searching for him). This is the reason why its better in low elo than high elo, better players adapt and know how to play against fiddle better. Low elo def A tier, high elo B/B+
I don’t understand the Shyvana hype. Seems like you are just full clearing to coin flip late game and hopefully win 51% of games. I don’t see why playing junglers with reliable gank setup would not be a better option in low elo when there is many deaths and snowball opportunities against bad players. Just my thoughts tho I’m terrible and I’m sure you know better.
I’m a noob also, but the win rate speaks for itself. Getting really farmed already makes you extremely powerful in low elo, because the rest of the lobby is really bad at it. Then shyvanna specifically has really reliable ways to actually translate her gold/levels into damage (ult + e is super easy to hit)
thank you for also specifying the fact that some champions are better suited to low elo and others to high elo; for the listener, it's a huge help.
I for example do "very well" with bel'veth even though I am bronze and with her, I don't know why, I have much more percentage wins than with shivana who, in theory, is far less mechanical.
Champion mastery is still the thing that matters most so play what you enjoy, however I believe a bronze player with 100 games of shyv has a higher winrate than a bronze player with 100 games of belveth. Hope this makes sense 💪
A JG "Onetrick" tier list would be really sick + some deeper explanation on the Onetricks. Solid Video keep up the good work. :)
Could do in the future
@@JungleGapGG Plz do.
@@JungleGapGGyes do this video pls
Include Kayn in it
@@JungleGapGG Oh pls yes! been looking out for this. Not specifically to a patch but a one-trick 1v9 carry potential kind of list if u play it enough..
Discovered your channel thanks to your vid with Tinjus. Now it's been 2 weeks and i went from gold 1 to plat 2.
Learning how to prevent counterplay definitively made a huge diff so thank you
Appreciate it, keep it up! 💪
im plat eme player and i was trying lots of champs to improve myself and choose 2-4 for my champion pool in ranked, and im impressed because almost every champ i felt the way you explained.
Of course 💪
Thanks for the jungle exclusive content :)
YW
I’ve come to realize tier lists don’t really matter until high elo where people begin to understand comps. Low elo drafts are completely random and if you understand the game better and make better decisions you will beat anyone who plays worse regardless where their champ falls on a tier list.
very true to some extend. i would say some junglers are better in low elo compared to high elo.
It kinda does a lilia will have a way easier time compared to gragas especially if your just slightly better than your elo u are talking about if your literally smurfing in low elo but let's face noone in low elo is that much better than their elo also I much rather a low elo player played shyvanna compared to rengar or evelyn... now if a diamond player is playing in silver then it won't matter
Half true, sometimes champ diff is definitely a real thing. My 4/0 Evelynn gets hard out damaged by a 1/5 Kha'Zix, and he was relevant no matter what.
@@PiscesSenpai exactly u think your so ahead when the other person is behind and still has some agency there is no world where eve can make the game unplayable for khazix unless its some kinda hard smurf thats going 20/0 which is not the reality in low elo otherwise they won't be low elo...
@@PiscesSenpai because people said its only relevant in high elo but low elo players are the same skill level as well making the same mistakes so obviously u gonna do better with a 0/5 s tier character compared to a 0/5 low tier character some champs are so broken u have to massively gap your opponent for it to matter
i noticed playing a lot of xin, xin is very advantage hungry and item hungry, if he doenst have advantage he is weak and becomes team reliant, which is not terrible, but in soloq you cant rely much on team sadly, xin very good for blocking ranged ultimates like mf ult jhin ult lux ult velkoz ult etc. so when i see a lot of ranged high impact threats (usually 2 or 3, 1 might be not be justified enough maybe except mf?)i might pick xin. his ultimate can provide crazy dmg mitigation for the team and turn around otherwise unwinnable teamfight, bait enemy ults, kite back, drag them into your vision territory and jump on them back with cooldowns advantage.
When he had the lethal tempo titanic build or the hob eclipse build he was a really strong carry. Now with the build being conq sundered sky, hes a lot less of a carry and used for pretty much just his early game fighting power. He was still being picked in competitive for the purpose he served, early game skirmish strength and strong 1-2 item power spike which is most important in comp for junglers as you usually get less gold.
While I agree with you, I will not stop playing sylas jungle purely because it’s just so much more fun than any other pick.
If you like playing it and its working for you, its perfectly fine to play. You just need to be really good at him mechanically and have really good opportunity assessment (playing like a psycho going 20-0 with mejais) where the strength of the pick is you just outplaying everyone.
Based A tier amumu❤
Would've loved to see your thoughts on Aurora's viability in jungle but either way, nice video.
jarvan vi wukong, kinda semi jungle kings, but if you go in at wrong time, you lose, one mistake can lose game, okay j4 and wu can sometimes escape, but as vi you cannot escape that easy
No reason to play them in low elo with the intention to climb unless you really like them of course. They serve a specific comp purpose in high elo and competitive that dont translate the same to soloq and especially low elo.
mordekaiser jungle is great but not that consistent, because he is mostly farming jungler, his ganks are not that strong, unless he dives or has speedups ghost and rlyai slow, he can be a beast in lower ranks, in higher think its getting harder but depends comp vs comp setup like always
Exactly, hes kind of like a weaker shyvana
jax is specific but in correct games he is 1v5 machine doesnt matter if its top mid or jungle
yes but that doesn't matter, you can say that about a lot of champions, a tier list is for consistency.
Katarina is S tier when the enemy team has 0 cc, which happens in about 1% of the games, that doesn't mean she's a good pick.
14.14* before anyone says it 🤦
RIP Rell in the jungle. She lost all monster modifiers on her abilities; in fact, Phreak said outright that they were killing her viability in the jungle.
Yeah not sure why they did that, along with maokai, rip
can you explain what you mean about Kha being good in High Elo and Not So Good in Low Elos? when you mean it has a high skill ceiling does that mean that you need to be able to play it well mechanically for it to be good in low elo or is it a team-reliant pick and your team needs to be good?
Kha' Zix is good in low elo if you're smurfing, but if you belong to low elo you probably suck and would have a harder time playing him. Not only mechanically but the way a champion works demands a certain play style and game knowledge.
if you're bad and don't understand the game you will suck hard with kha, you might occasionally go 12-3 but you'll still lose because you don't understand your role/how to carry consistently with him.
Do some guides and videos on shyvyna!!
Is coming 🐉
I got a 69% wr on shaco sitting in plat (70 games). After your explanation I now know that means I'll be diamond + this season. Thanks. 😘🤣
You're welcome
I'm tearing it up with Ivern, def disagree.
You forgot neeko. In low elo no one expects the minion gank
no one expects it in chall either 😂
Im surprised viego is so high up even though his winrate is pretty bad
Cause he's massively over played I think, it's probably the highest pick rate in jungle across all ranks and a lot of players probably don't play him as good as they should
@@PhO3NiX96 across all ranks viego is 10% compared to Lee sins 16% and lillia/nocturnes 8%
Idk, I used to play viego a lot after his nerfs after he came out and he felt great but he just feels weak now. Not sure what they changed either between then and now since I took a break
Also it's funny that he's 10% across all ranks but I have legit only seen him once in the last 2 weeks or so.
@@TheCosmicAstro- you're right the stats I checked was emerald + and it was 26% or something, mb
Honestly most AD junglers arent in the best spots, but out of them khazix/viego/hecarim/noc are the top 4. Viego is still always solid especially since items are good for him right now and he hasnt been nerfed, where as everything else has.
trundle and olaf can carry games which are otherwise uncarriable, olaf vs heavy cc runs and smashes enemy adc, if he has speedup he can murder adc with yuumi on top this adc or with help of yuumi he can do also wonders, trundle can be a semi peel, frontline destroyer, you ult steal enemy tank and destroy them with your botrk, bye bye frontline with little help of your team and then you delete the rest, those are nieche picks in certain comps vs certain comps, game knowledge required
I do agree olaf in the perfect comp scenario with a yuumi and a strong early game is A or even S tier but as you say it is niche. For a general tier list, olaf doesnt provide any significant strength and his heavily reliant on being massively ahead as he is a stat checking champion, with no consistent way to get ahead (doesnt have a fast clear/doesnt have good gank/easily kited). Both olaf and trundle are better off as top laners where they can actually get ahead and be ahead of the curve (high xp/gold)
mundo jungle can 1v5 but you have to pick it last pick to make sure enemy has no %hp max dmg available, no liandry, and if possible no botrk, no vayn etc.
How to build amumu and go from silver to diamond?
I truly do not know, playing something that can snowball will probably work better.
Liandries always, then its either sunfire or warmogs. Take a look at lolvvv what pros are doing from different regions, try to look at when they build items depending on enemy comp.
So how are shyv ad and udyr ad in the tier list ?
I feel like Fiddle could easily be high A tier. Even in high Elo. No one respects him
I definitely agree that fiddle is usually sleeper, with the items being good for him and the full clear meta. I think you are right, when he gets picked more and becomes popular, people start expecting him and play around his ult better (searching for him). This is the reason why its better in low elo than high elo, better players adapt and know how to play against fiddle better. Low elo def A tier, high elo B/B+
I don’t understand the Shyvana hype. Seems like you are just full clearing to coin flip late game and hopefully win 51% of games. I don’t see why playing junglers with reliable gank setup would not be a better option in low elo when there is many deaths and snowball opportunities against bad players. Just my thoughts tho I’m terrible and I’m sure you know better.
I’m a noob also, but the win rate speaks for itself.
Getting really farmed already makes you extremely powerful in low elo, because the rest of the lobby is really bad at it.
Then shyvanna specifically has really reliable ways to actually translate her gold/levels into damage (ult + e is super easy to hit)
rengar needs a buff
It makes no sense to have nidalee A tier and eve/rengar c tier. Those otp will be F tier for someone who's never played them and S/A tier for any otp.
Ngl viego is so versatile that he'll always be at least A tier
This tierlist is so bullshit
Elaborate