I dont know what happened but you cant help but feel for the guy. The basslines on the first album were great so it wasn't musicianship, Touring, celebrity, band dynamics are hard. At least he can have the memory (and hopefully royalties) of being part of one of the best albums of that era!
I spent a day interviewing Andy in 2015. One quote that stood out: “I went up to Al’s house a couple of days ago [who was back from LA for Xmas]. We built a snowman and his Dad took a photo. It’s always good to see him. He’s not Alex Turner to me, he’s just Al’. My mate I went to school with.” A lovely guy. He was as you say almost Zen like and held no bitterness (link in reply below).
Always think about the mental state of former band members with stories similar to this. Albeit the circumstances can range, still can't fathom the crushing reality of missing out on "the dream" or whatever. Matt from My Chem immediately comes to mind. Or John and Green Day.
I don't think this was a "sacking" as such. More of a mutual departure. Touring is fuckin hard. It looks easy because all we see is the hour n half of a performance and we go back home to the missus & kids. Being stuck on a bus with 3 or 4 other lads, farting, shitting with only one toilet boils down to prison mentality. Throw in the odd addiction nightmare and you have a recipe for disaster. He is still doing music and festivals the way he wants it. Good for him. Seems like a really good bloke.
Yep. It can get tough very quickly, especially if audiences are small, and cynical. And the only payment you manage to scrounge covers van hire and diesel. Chuck an unappreciative handful of wankers as an audience and the whole enterprise quickly feels like a tough slog. Up and down the M1 at three in the morning, a four pack of out of date Asda lager on the "rider". And that's the good bit. 😆
I get it tho. I was in a band and enjoying playing gigs in my own country, but when my band mates wanted to start playing Europe, I just couldn’t be bothered… quite simply. Travelling around in a van, eating shit food, setting up my drum kit every night, getting sweaty, nowhere to shower, then driving to the next place. Also, it cost a lot of money upfront and we didn’t make much money on the road. On the flipside I had a lovely house, girlfriend, loved sitting on my computer or my sofa and just enjoying my normal life. Going on the road, definitely isn’t for everyone
Its not a nice situation at all, but going from strength to strength after the fact tells ya it wasn't a bad decision. Great bassist, seemingly great guy, no loss here
When you're on the presuppose of making it you can't let anyone down and you have to be fully committed. I really do feel for him because that would of been a hard decision to make and he obviously has big regrets but he is the ex bass player of arctic monkeys and how many people can say that? To forgive or to let something go that you love and feel passionate about takes a special person and l respect him massively for that.
To me he was always the odd one out. Similar to Dave Rowntree of Blur, I felt that Andy was in the wrong band. I was not the slightest surprised when he got kicked out of AM.
I agree. I think management probably had a big part in the decision and pressured the rest of the members to take agree to it. Reality is that image can play a huge part in the commercial success of a band. But the guy seemed genuine, was a solid bassist and the album he did is timeless. They did him dirty though in my opinion. I can't imagine the pain he felt too, just watching this band blow up into the stratosphere success-wise. Would they have achieved the same success if he was still in the band? Who knows...
I have the feeling this was the main reason too, unfortunately. Obviously, they didn't want to say this out loud to him or in public. If you look at all those guitar bands at the time, it's super-skinny lads. I think management just thought that if they wanted to be successful in the massive US market, then the whole group had to look the part.
Everyone from The Fall looked like a bloke in the pub playing the fruit machine and smoking tabs. Apart from the ladies of course. And possibly Karl Burns.
Interesting. I had no idea about any of this because after the first album I got bored of them quickly. I did like his bass parts so maybe thats why I got bored!
Andy gunn was god sent to the arctic monkeys esp with his basslines in wpsiatwin. Nick will always be an empty shell of what it used to be for the boys. Sad to see that touring was andy gunns weakness.
L take their basslines got even better. plus they've always had a little pretentiousness which isn't bad and i personally love the genre exploration. go watch their old live vids and cry
@@frank_west.pahahahah. There’s no argument in the world you can give to convince any sane person that tranquility base is a good album, let alone their best 😂😂
@@reppinTV It's not for everyone, but it has their most creative arrangements, an awesome concept, and some of their best lyrics. If you prefer Alex yapping about London's nightlife while playing a bunch of power chords, that's ok! Some albums require a little bit of brain grease to get into it, and some people prefer simpler stuff.
Imo they were only good when this dude was in the band. Before turner became bono number 2 forgetting all he's done is write a bunch of songs literally that's all. At least Andy can take peace in the notion that he never became a cock like turner and they were only any good when he was in them. Start a new band mush I'll buy a copy
I dont know what happened but you cant help but feel for the guy. The basslines on the first album were great so it wasn't musicianship, Touring, celebrity, band dynamics are hard. At least he can have the memory (and hopefully royalties) of being part of one of the best albums of that era!
I spent a day interviewing Andy in 2015. One quote that stood out:
“I went up to Al’s house a couple of days ago [who was back from LA for Xmas]. We built a snowman and his Dad took a photo. It’s always good to see him. He’s not Alex Turner to me, he’s just Al’. My mate I went to school with.”
A lovely guy. He was as you say almost Zen like and held no bitterness (link in reply below).
Let's be honest, as friends, they did him dirty, but they are apparently good friends again so kudos to Nick for that. Seems a lovely guy.
Always think about the mental state of former band members with stories similar to this. Albeit the circumstances can range, still can't fathom the crushing reality of missing out on "the dream" or whatever. Matt from My Chem immediately comes to mind. Or John and Green Day.
The old drummer from Blink 182 too
Pete Best is the top shelf story for cases like this
Jason from Nirvana
@@KonstantinNakonechnyand soundgarden
@ yes brother right.
I don't think this was a "sacking" as such. More of a mutual departure. Touring is fuckin hard. It looks easy because all we see is the hour n half of a performance and we go back home to the missus & kids. Being stuck on a bus with 3 or 4 other lads, farting, shitting with only one toilet boils down to prison mentality. Throw in the odd addiction nightmare and you have a recipe for disaster. He is still doing music and festivals the way he wants it. Good for him. Seems like a really good bloke.
Yep. It can get tough very quickly, especially if audiences are small, and cynical. And the only payment you manage to scrounge covers van hire and diesel. Chuck an unappreciative handful of wankers as an audience and the whole enterprise quickly feels like a tough slog. Up and down the M1 at three in the morning, a four pack of out of date Asda lager on the "rider". And that's the good bit. 😆
Sounds mint
I get it tho. I was in a band and enjoying playing gigs in my own country, but when my band mates wanted to start playing Europe, I just couldn’t be bothered… quite simply.
Travelling around in a van, eating shit food, setting up my drum kit every night, getting sweaty, nowhere to shower, then driving to the next place. Also, it cost a lot of money upfront and we didn’t make much money on the road.
On the flipside I had a lovely house, girlfriend, loved sitting on my computer or my sofa and just enjoying my normal life.
Going on the road, definitely isn’t for everyone
But in his case it's not the reason.
I was lucky enough to see them play on their first american tour in Philadelphia. I loved Andy's style so much.
Its not a nice situation at all, but going from strength to strength after the fact tells ya it wasn't a bad decision.
Great bassist, seemingly great guy, no loss here
When you're on the presuppose of making it you can't let anyone down and you have to be fully committed.
I really do feel for him because that would of been a hard decision to make and he obviously has big regrets but he is the ex bass player of arctic monkeys and how many people can say that?
To forgive or to let something go that you love and feel passionate about takes a special person and l respect him massively for that.
Brilliant video. Can you do an analysis of Oasis drummer Alan White?
The Kooks’ original lineup. Max rafferty & Paul Garred, and as of late Pete Denton
@@seesaythinkthings long time since I've known about the kooks wasn't Max substance related?
Or maybe that's an easy excuse
Great video, as always!
Like another viewer said, a video about The Rapture would be nice.
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sus lineas de bajo eran un 10/10, para mi hubiera superado en composición a nick, eso seguro.
To me he was always the odd one out. Similar to Dave Rowntree of Blur, I felt that Andy was in the wrong band. I was not the slightest surprised when he got kicked out of AM.
Next video you should talk about klaxons debut album, so many potential forgotten, great videos!
I do believe they sacked him for "looks" reasons
You mix this up with Brian Epstein and 16 August 1962 :P.
I agree. I think management probably had a big part in the decision and pressured the rest of the members to take agree to it. Reality is that image can play a huge part in the commercial success of a band. But the guy seemed genuine, was a solid bassist and the album he did is timeless. They did him dirty though in my opinion. I can't imagine the pain he felt too, just watching this band blow up into the stratosphere success-wise. Would they have achieved the same success if he was still in the band? Who knows...
That's what I thought; an Ian Stewart type of situation.
Besides the guitarist I wouldn't say any of them were easy on the eye.
I have the feeling this was the main reason too, unfortunately. Obviously, they didn't want to say this out loud to him or in public. If you look at all those guitar bands at the time, it's super-skinny lads. I think management just thought that if they wanted to be successful in the massive US market, then the whole group had to look the part.
Jamie is a Most Offensive Individual.
half reminds me of Steve Hanley in playing style - kinda hod carrier strength, workmanlike approach. Indefatigable.
Everyone from The Fall looked like a bloke in the pub playing the fruit machine and smoking tabs. Apart from the ladies of course. And possibly Karl Burns.
3:55 link to interview not in description (?)
Interesting. I had no idea about any of this because after the first album I got bored of them quickly. I did like his bass parts so maybe thats why I got bored!
Andy gunn was god sent to the arctic monkeys esp with his basslines in wpsiatwin. Nick will always be an empty shell of what it used to be for the boys. Sad to see that touring was andy gunns weakness.
+ andys depression sucks!! Alex fr needs to be a better friend and stop being pretentious
L take their basslines got even better. plus they've always had a little pretentiousness which isn't bad and i personally love the genre exploration. go watch their old live vids and cry
Sure, the rapture!
Gonna finally do it fella, for you.
@indiesleaze How about something on Foals' first album?
If only he had looksmaxxed.
To be honest, he played on their only album that mattered, now no one gives a fuck who they are.
firm - but fair
...i do?
Humbug and Tranquility Base are arguably their best works!
@@frank_west.pahahahah. There’s no argument in the world you can give to convince any sane person that tranquility base is a good album, let alone their best 😂😂
@@reppinTV It's not for everyone, but it has their most creative arrangements, an awesome concept, and some of their best lyrics. If you prefer Alex yapping about London's nightlife while playing a bunch of power chords, that's ok! Some albums require a little bit of brain grease to get into it, and some people prefer simpler stuff.
Alex Turner stayed and it turned him into a right pretentious knob so he made the right choice leaving for sure!
One of those bands where only the singer is known, the others can walk about anywhere completely unrecognised
Defo not the drummer Matt, hes known for alot more these days
@asutxrner if you put him and two other random lads in a line up, I wouldn't be able to pick him out.
@@lucasoheyze4597 Oh that's easy. Just pick the most ordinary looking of three. 😆
Does OG stand for only good ?
you speak...like.....William....Shatner
Cheers bro!
I didn't know the original Arctic Monkeys bassist was a gangster, but I suppose now I do now. Is he in jail?
WHAT DOES OG MEAN? OG used to mean Original Gangster although it is now commonly used as OG as a way of saying "original"
Never been a fan of arctic monkeys, thought they were shit… apart from the original bassist
They betrayed their OG sound!!! awful band now, truly awful and boring, and worst of all, full of themselves
Imo they were only good when this dude was in the band. Before turner became bono number 2 forgetting all he's done is write a bunch of songs literally that's all. At least Andy can take peace in the notion that he never became a cock like turner and they were only any good when he was in them. Start a new band mush I'll buy a copy
Ha similar to my comment!
Wow you're both simple @@Compliment_Thief
I would say in the end he got off lightly .....they weren't his mates obviously
They've lost all there riffy edgy english sound now anyway....now its all too Americanized ....too much brill creamed hair and leather jackets 😅
Agreed