That’s very good info right there. I’m currently installing Eibach Springs which should replace the OEM ones (the way the TRD PRO should have came) Claims 1/2 lift , stay tuned for actual final height 😉
🤣🤣 That’s funny that I had you out there with a measuring tape. I did know that, measured a few before to confirm their height. I appreciate you watching!
Greetings From New Hampshire ! Your thoughts on those are exactly like what i thought after installing Bilstein 5100 series shocks, reusing the original coils. Your coils look so much nicer , shocks to me anything not stock and blacked out is nice. Performance, i love the firm ride and less seasick/floatiness just feeling planted and composed !! Nice vid man ! Good quality and to the point.
@@VikingsGarage Ahhh..someone mentioned below, I forgot to mention the nosedive when braking.. very much reduced with the 5100's as well ! You will love the Fox. I think they are serviceable even.
Ordering stuff late at night can get expensive, couple weeks ago I ordered a GOBI Ranger roof rack for my 2021 4Runner. I'm looking forward to upgrading the suspension but wont be doing that until I have all the other parts installed like bumpers, skid plates, auxiliary fuel tank and stuff for overlanding. I'm looking at going with the King suspension kit. Love your red 4Runner, mine is red also. Takk for videoen, Skål!
I remember when I traded my 2014 SR5 4Runner for my 2016 Trail Premium that I still own, that the ride was just a little stiffer, but the handling was far better.... even with the BF Goodrich KO2s added.
I literally just did the same exact thing to my 2014 trail 4runner a few weeks back. Got a freaking steal on my set. I noticed the same exact thing, stiffer on the bumps and small stuff. But if you have an opportunity to hit some good dips, rough dirt road or trail, that’s where it’s pretty amazing, especially if you can hit stuff over 40. It gives a little to much confidence hitting things that would bottom you out easily before with the standard shocks. Great video, glad I’m not the only one who likes the pro shocks
Hi, I am considering the same for my 22 TRD off-road, the stock struts/shocks seem boaty but comfy over small bumps so don't want a drastically firm ride as it's my daily road vehicle. What is your impression after 1 yr, still stiff on the road? and do you like it? recommend it? Also, you bought the suspension kit new, and how much? Thanks for any advice.
I have to imagine that the notorious nose dive is gone. I changed my TRD ORP front and rears out to Bluestein's - much improved on body roll and the nose diving.
I have an SR5 Premium and my friend just sent me his lightly used TRD Pro suspension. I’m still gonna upgrade later on for better suspension & a lift for bigger tires but for the time being I’ll use the Pro suspension
Great Video. Always appreciate the info you share. Quick question. When installing the new setup. Do these have to be tuned at all? Or just ready to be installed out of the box? Don’t think you mentioned the price also lol. Or did I just miss it…
@@VikingsGarage I want to go the same route as you with the fox suspension. I Found a good price on ebay. Just concerned because if I purchase from toyota they warranty for a year. But if I buy off of ebay and something happens six months later. Then it’s all on me. Whatdya you think? Is this setup reliable enough to purchase on ebay or just pay full price from Toyota? As always. Thanks for all the info you give
You should have asked me. I replaced my OEM TRD Pro struts & springs (Bilstein) with Bilstein 6120s. I already had the 5160s in the rear. I also replaced the UCAs with Camburgs.
Any tips on the front caliper pins in the rust belt? Mine are always seized and NEVER just slide out. I’ve had to carefully Dremel them and work them out with a punch often taking hours. Any tips
Unfortunately, that’s a constant battle for us. So I always install new pins when possible and apply anti seize in the pin holes. The removal portion is always a struggle, heat is your best friend. I use a small portable torch to work them out, along with a pair of good locking pliers and twist motion. I hope this info is helpful.
@@VikingsGarage this is good info! I'm in the Northeast, I'm planning on doing front brakes on my 2013 4Runner soon. I never really had any issues with brakes on any other vehicle I've owned, so this is kind of a surprise. At least now I'll be prepared.
👏🏻👏🏻 You got this, if anything just watch my video (link below) on the subject for any possible questions. Good luck 👍🏻 th-cam.com/video/9tiFUcN8yEw/w-d-xo.html
I have a 2020 TRD Pro. I had the original FOX front struts replaced with the TSB recommended front struts (due to the contact of the bottom two springs). I'm sure I won't have the clunking noise now at temps 40 degrees and below. But, the replacement front struts have a dull squeaking noise periodically that the original springs didn't have. Oh well...I wonder if the 2021/2022 TRD Pro owners have noticed this (because I "think" the TSB recommended front struts for the 2019/2020 are the same front struts as the ones that are original on the 2021/2022 TRD Pros). Also I put on 275 KO2s (this was before the front struts were replaced) and there is absolutely no rubbing issues at all (with no modifications done). My MPG did decrease about 1.3 MPG with going from the 265 Nitto Grapplers to the 275 KO2s.
Unfortunately to make our trucks more to our liking with off-roading in mind, MPG do suffer. Yeah they had some issues with Fox racing struts initially. I made a short video on that : th-cam.com/video/hw8VgahEGXE/w-d-xo.html But the part numbers I installed which I put in the description box are the latest and greatest with all the bugs fixed. I appreciate your comment and thank you for your support!
@@VikingsGarage Do you think that the front struts used to replace the defective ones on the 2019/2020s are the same front struts as the ones on the 2021/2022 year models? (I believe the part numbers are different.)
What bushings did you use on the rear Fox shocks? I see they don’t come with them. Can you use OEM Toyota rubber bushings or what are the options available? Thx
I noticed with your mods you’re trying to be close to stock , I know you’re a Toyota mechanic,& I follow your advices as one of your subscriber.I just purchased a 2021 trd orp with 17000 miles ,clean carfax 1 owner. Wanted 2022 new one but it will take 6-10 mos from Japan. Watching your vids gave me confidence with my decision, thanks bro
The only mechanic Chuck Norris would trust to work on his 4 Runner 😂 Great videos!
That just made my day, thank you Sir!! 😅
I have owned a 2016 with KDSS and now a 2021 Pro, and IMO hands-down the Fox suspension rides so much nicer on and off road.
I do agree! 👍🏻
I added the Eibach lift springs to the rear and to the TRD Pro Fox OEM struts on my 2019. It added about 1.5" lift over all
That’s very good info right there.
I’m currently installing Eibach Springs which should replace the OEM ones
(the way the TRD PRO should have came)
Claims 1/2 lift , stay tuned for actual final height 😉
This video made me go measure my '21 TRD-PRO (stock). I have 21" on the front and 22 & 1/4 at the rear.
🤣🤣 That’s funny that I had you out there with a measuring tape.
I did know that, measured a few before to confirm their height.
I appreciate you watching!
Greetings From New Hampshire ! Your thoughts on those are exactly like what i thought after installing Bilstein 5100 series shocks, reusing the original coils. Your coils look so much nicer , shocks to me anything not stock and blacked out is nice. Performance, i love the firm ride and less seasick/floatiness just feeling planted and composed !! Nice vid man ! Good quality and to the point.
I appreciate that. Thank you!
@@VikingsGarage Ahhh..someone mentioned below, I forgot to mention the nosedive when braking.. very much reduced with the 5100's as well ! You will love the Fox. I think they are serviceable even.
Thank you Sir, 3rd day in and totally love the way this truck Feels.
Ordering stuff late at night can get expensive, couple weeks ago I ordered a GOBI Ranger roof rack for my 2021 4Runner. I'm looking forward to upgrading the suspension but wont be doing that until I have all the other parts installed like bumpers, skid plates, auxiliary fuel tank and stuff for overlanding. I'm looking at going with the King suspension kit. Love your red 4Runner, mine is red also. Takk for videoen, Skål!
Those are some sweet upgrades.
I appreciate your support! Thank you.
Red 4Runners rule 🤘🏻
I remember when I traded my 2014 SR5 4Runner for my 2016 Trail Premium that I still own, that the ride was just a little stiffer, but the handling was far better.... even with the BF Goodrich KO2s added.
Crazy right, but true .
I literally just did the same exact thing to my 2014 trail 4runner a few weeks back. Got a freaking steal on my set. I noticed the same exact thing, stiffer on the bumps and small stuff. But if you have an opportunity to hit some good dips, rough dirt road or trail, that’s where it’s pretty amazing, especially if you can hit stuff over 40. It gives a little to much confidence hitting things that would bottom you out easily before with the standard shocks.
Great video, glad I’m not the only one who likes the pro shocks
Absolutely brother, Thank you for watching and supporting this channel!
The PRO Shocks/suspension is awesome!
Hi, I am considering the same for my 22 TRD off-road, the stock struts/shocks seem boaty but comfy over small bumps so don't want a drastically firm ride as it's my daily road vehicle. What is your impression after 1 yr, still stiff on the road? and do you like it? recommend it? Also, you bought the suspension kit new, and how much? Thanks for any advice.
@pall5114 I would recommend it, not stiff at all, I got it for a steal… $2000
Will it fit a 2012 4Runner Limited with Xreas Suspension if it's removed ?
Absolutely 💯
Just small modification to the upper rear shock bushing. No biggie!!
I have to imagine that the notorious nose dive is gone. I changed my TRD ORP front and rears out to Bluestein's - much improved on body roll and the nose diving.
No more nose dive for sure, I know it’s still premature but… I like it. 👍🏻
Billstein’s makes great Suspension!
I have an SR5 Premium and my friend just sent me his lightly used TRD Pro suspension. I’m still gonna upgrade later on for better suspension & a lift for bigger tires but for the time being I’ll use the Pro suspension
It’s a great setup. 👍🏻
Great Video. Always appreciate the info you share. Quick question. When installing the new setup. Do these have to be tuned at all? Or just ready to be installed out of the box?
Don’t think you mentioned the price also lol. Or did I just miss it…
I paid $2000 on eBay, ready to install out the box.
@@VikingsGarage I want to go the same route as you with the fox suspension. I Found a good price on ebay. Just concerned because if I purchase from toyota they warranty for a year. But if I buy off of ebay and something happens six months later. Then it’s all on me. Whatdya you think? Is this setup reliable enough to purchase on ebay or just pay full price from Toyota? As always. Thanks for all the info you give
You should be fine with the EBay one. Mine is well over 1 year old, zero issues.
Bought it on EBay.
@@VikingsGarage thanks bud!
You should have asked me. I replaced my OEM TRD Pro struts & springs (Bilstein) with Bilstein 6120s. I already had the 5160s in the rear. I also replaced the UCAs with Camburgs.
No worries, I enjoyed the process 😂
That’s a nice setup you got there, awesome!
great video! what window visors do you have on?
Thank you Sir!
Those visors are actually by AVS .
They have last 5 years now, still looking sharp.
I appreciate you watching!
Any tips on the front caliper pins in the rust belt? Mine are always seized and NEVER just slide out. I’ve had to carefully Dremel them and work them out with a punch often taking hours. Any tips
Unfortunately, that’s a constant battle for us. So I always install new pins when possible and apply anti seize in the pin holes. The removal portion is always a struggle, heat is your best friend. I use a small portable torch to work them out, along with a pair of good locking pliers and twist motion.
I hope this info is helpful.
@@VikingsGarage this is good info! I'm in the Northeast, I'm planning on doing front brakes on my 2013 4Runner soon. I never really had any issues with brakes on any other vehicle I've owned, so this is kind of a surprise. At least now I'll be prepared.
👏🏻👏🏻 You got this, if anything just watch my video (link below) on the subject for any possible questions. Good luck 👍🏻
th-cam.com/video/9tiFUcN8yEw/w-d-xo.html
I have a 2020 TRD Pro. I had the original FOX front struts replaced with the TSB recommended front struts (due to the contact of the bottom two springs). I'm sure I won't have the clunking noise now at temps 40 degrees and below. But, the replacement front struts have a dull squeaking noise periodically that the original springs didn't have. Oh well...I wonder if the 2021/2022 TRD Pro owners have noticed this (because I "think" the TSB recommended front struts for the 2019/2020 are the same front struts as the ones that are original on the 2021/2022 TRD Pros).
Also I put on 275 KO2s (this was before the front struts were replaced) and there is absolutely no rubbing issues at all (with no modifications done). My MPG did decrease about 1.3 MPG with going from the 265 Nitto Grapplers to the 275 KO2s.
Unfortunately to make our trucks more to our liking with off-roading in mind, MPG do suffer.
Yeah they had some issues with Fox racing struts initially. I made a short video on that :
th-cam.com/video/hw8VgahEGXE/w-d-xo.html
But the part numbers I installed which I put in the description box are the latest and greatest with all the bugs fixed.
I appreciate your comment and thank you for your support!
@@VikingsGarage Do you think that the front struts used to replace the defective ones on the 2019/2020s are the same front struts as the ones on the 2021/2022 year models? (I believe the part numbers are different.)
Technically no, but I was told they are practically the same. 🤷🏼♂️
Where did you get the mesh cover for the brake lines for the rear?
Comes with your fox racing rear shocks.
Awesome video , can I install this setup on a 4Runner with KDSS? Thanks in advance
Unfortunately, no. Do check for compatibility first. I
appreciate you Watching.
The tube around my rear shock is rusted and almost gone, that is my next purchase new shocks or suspension upgrade.
Same happened to me, mine was actually scraping on the way down.(it was so rotted out)
I say Upgrade. 😎
Thank you for watching!
I need that TRD pro kit but for the Tacoma
I gotcha, got to do it!!
You won’t regret it!!
Looks great! I just bought a bilstein setup for mine! Looking for someone to install!
Thank you, That’s awesome, bilstein makes quality stuff.
Good luck!
This is me roght now . Lol i do t even have the car yet but im reaching suspension. Fox trd pro lol
😆
What bushings did you use on the rear Fox shocks? I see they don’t come with them. Can you use OEM Toyota rubber bushings or what are the options available? Thx
I did use the oem Toyota Bushings . I tried looking for polyurethane ones, to no success 🤷🏼♂️
What do you think about that pedal commander? Worth it or a risk to reliability
My honest opinion , I don’t really know much about it. I stick to OEM stuff usually. There are people swearing by it! 🤷🏼♂️
The noise reducer on your mic is called a “dead cat”. No idea on attachments…
Lol, that’s funny… didn’t know.
So which suspension is more comfortable for daily driving?
Honestly, I’m enjoying better the firmness of the Fox racing/Eibach Improvements !
Will these work with the OEM Off Road wheels? I have an 18' TRD ORP, would like to keep the wheels but upgrade the suspension.
I don’t see why not, you will be fine. Go for it. Enjoy!!
I would have left it like it was. I like what you have now.
Probably will not ride as good as it does stock.
I hear you, no more late night shopping for me🤣🤣😜
Thank you for watching!
👍
Sway bars are different on the pro. Size and location. Any alterations necessary for this?
Same exact size and location
Where did you buy those TRD pro fox shocks
eBay 😉
I noticed with your mods you’re trying to be close to stock , I know you’re a Toyota mechanic,& I follow your advices as one of your subscriber.I just purchased a 2021 trd orp with 17000 miles ,clean carfax 1 owner. Wanted 2022 new one but it will take 6-10 mos from Japan. Watching your vids gave me confidence with my decision, thanks bro
That’s awesome, thank you!
Good luck with the new truck and enjoy it! 👍🏻
Great video. Can't you get a discount and order parts straight from Toyota?
Thank you!
I have employee discount that’s it.
Will this work with the kdss system
I don’t think so, not entirely sure. KDSS does require different specs
They are indeed stiffer(perhaps the front springs) kinda jarring and i am kinda tired of it muself
I got you.
Late night shopping…is bad. Mmmmmmkay.
Totally agree!! 🤣