The DNA of Clan MacLeod: Is Leòd our common ancestor?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ค. 2023
- A presentation prepared for the 19th MacLeod Clan Parliament on the Isle of Skye on July 25, 2023. This talk looks at the DNA of members of the MacLeod-surname DNA project at FTDNA. Presented by Mark MacLeod and co-authored by Roderick MacLeod.
In summary, DNA shows us that most MacLeod men can be placed in one of 5 genetically distinct groups. The MacLeod men in the largest of these groups are likely direct paternal line descendants of Leòd, the founder of the clan. The other 4 groups are likely descendants of men who assumed the MacLeod surname far back in time.
We also show DNA evidence which supports that most MacLeod men in these 5 groups will likely have a female MacLeod somewhere in their family tree who is a direct descendant of Leòd. Therefore, most MacLeods, women and men, will likely have a link back to Leòd, either along their paternal line or through a maternal connection, or both! - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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Thank you kindly for your time in making this.
An excellent, easy to follow presentation. Thank you for your research and your hard work - helping us understand our biological journey.
Thanks for the presentation!
Thankyou , for attaining great research on my ancesters. 😊
Great presentation. I really need to produce a similar one for Doherty project I admin.
I will have that Leod genetic given your video
Thankyou I've been researching my family history and I have McLeod's on my maternal line.
In your presentation you showed a Norman McLeod born early 1800 . I've been trying to ascertain the parents of my Norman Macleod who married Rachel Morrison.
You also showed intertwining such as Gillies and McLean spelt both ways which are intertwined in my tree as well.
I would appreciate any input as to if I can find the parents of Norman Macleod
Great presentation
To be able to help, I'd need quite a bit more info. Can you send me a link to your tree? mark_k_macleod@yahoo.com
Mark - I would like to add my own most sincere thanks for this excellent presentation! Can I ask if there is a forum where we can go and post questions and share information on the subject of MacLeod DNA? Of particular interest to me is the question of how far back the AA test can reliably go - I think you said 6 or 7 generations and the ancestor I am most interested in is 8 generations back from me... ?
In terms of AA DNA (autosomal) tests, the standard line is about 5-7 generations. Mathematically, you lose half of the influence of an ancestor with each generation. However, I've seen many, many cases where low cM match levels appear in descendants who are further away than 7 generations from the common ancestor. I'm fortunate to have the atDNA results from 12 family members spanning 4 generations. I've found over 100 DNA matches that lead to common ancestors who are my great-great-great grandparents. About 10% of the time, there is a weak match to the youngest generation in my family who are 8 generations removed from these common ancestors. Endogamy can also help boost match levels and push the limits beyond 7 generations, but you'll probably never be able to untangle this!
Re a forum for MacLeod DNA, we manage the project at FamilyTree DNA which is a collection of DNA results from over 500 MacLeods. You're welcome to contribute your DNA results, especially Y DNA, and we can review and comment. There is also a place to post questions.
So, I recently got my test results, and when I went to compare with others, it says the page is down. Can you lead me in the right direction, please? Thank you in advance!
G'day mate McLeod clan descendants here I'm named after the isle of Lewis grandad was a Seaforth highlander in ww11
I want to do a DNA test but it's too expensive for me atm
Hello Mark, good presentation. So the MacLeod chief would have been Celtic and not Norse correct?
No, in the Q&A on Skye I showed DNA evidence of Norse origins for Leòd. Several Norwegian DNA tests match MacLeods.
I’m a bit confused, the presentation appears to show that several Macleod groups have Scandinavian roots but not the direct paternal line group A. So how can you say Leod the first Macleod Chief was Norse and not Celtic? Professor Jim Wilson thinks the paternal line of the Macleods and the MacNeils was Pictish.
Let's call it an open question. I think Norse roots for Clan MacLeod makes more sense. We have close Norwegian Y-DNA cousins who would have to descend from Picts brought to Norway, perhaps as slaves. Seems unlikely. The long-standing history of the clan says Leod was of Norse descent. Many MacLeods with clear Viking roots descend from people who assumed the MacLeod surname and often married MacLeod women in the chiefly line. Would this have happened if descendants of Leod were Picts?
So question, I know for fact I am descended from clan Macleod chiefs. My great great grandma was Lula Lavicey Truesdale Macleod. Her dad my great great great grandpa was Ashmotr McLeod Born in South Carolina. They go all the way back to Norman H Macleod 14th chief of Harris and dunvegan would any markers remain with me?
If I understand correctly, your MacLeod line comes from a female ancestor. Therefore, your Y DNA will not reflect this MacLeod lineage. It would be great if you could find a male MacLeod descendant of Ashmotr McLeod who would be willing to take a Y DNA test. Otherwise, your autosomal test results (e.g., from Ancestry, Family Finder) would likely show some MacLeod DNA which will be useful when searching for closer relatives. These autosomal results are unlikely to help proving this connection back to the chiefly line.
@@markkmacleod and I’m sorry for the misspelling! His name was Ashmore Macleod!
What about the McCabes, a sept of the Lewis Branch?
There is a separate MacLeod Septs Project with 179 members. There are 8 McCabes in the project, most of who indicate their earliest known ancestor is from Ireland. None of the members of the MacLeod Septs Project, including the 8 McCabes, share common ancestors with the chiefly line of MacLeods.
As I understand it, McClure (my mother's surname) was a "sept" of the McLeod clan. The definition of "sept" seems quite loose. One story has it that the McClure are, in fact, McCleods who went to Ulster, where the name morphed. What does DNA say about the McClures and McLeods relationship?
There is a separate MacLeod Septs Project at FTDNA with 179 members. There are 14 McClures in the project, with an even split between those who indicate their earliest known ancestor is from Ireland vs Scotland. None of the members of the MacLeod Septs Project, including the McClures, share a common ancestor with the chiefly line of MacLeods. So, if the MacLeods who went to Ulster morphed into McClures, these MacLeods were not descendants of the chiefly line of MacLeods. The McClures in the project do appear to have a common ancestor who is genetically unrelated to the MacLeod clan (R-FGC3251, a man born c. 1100). There is also a McClure Project at FTDNA with 296 members.
My 6th great grandmother was Jemima McClure. When I followed her ancestors line back to John McClure/MacLeod 10th of Gesto. He is the son of Murdo MacLeod 9th of Gesto and Glenelg. They are both decendants of Malcolm 3rd clan Cheif. The Lands of Gesto which is the waternish arm of Skye and Glenelg is land on the mainland are lands given to his ancestorsby Malcolm 3rd clan cheif. Why the name change to McClure I dont know. It happened the same time they moved from Skye to Ayrshire in the mid 1600s. John McClure/MacLeod got in a bunch of trouble for killing some McCaskills I guess. He had to pay a big fine and lost some of his titled lands. I guess about the same time King James IV confiscated the lands of Gesto and Glenelg. These McClure ancestors oof mine that came to America just before the Revolution and were Patriots in the Warwere really MacLeods. They were from Brookfield, Massachusetts. There decendants migrated to Vermont, New York, and Pennsylvania. Then later to all the the United States. My MacLeod ancestors also married Macdonald women from Sleat and Glengarry. I assume most MacLeods from Skye have McDonald ancestors as well. Thanks for the video.
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My great great something uncle was Angus MacAskill da told me that before Internet day he was over 7ft tall the world's strongest man
What is the difference between McLeod and MacLeod
There is no real difference. The name of the clan is MacLeod but this often gets shortened to McLeod, and there are other spellings. In some parts of the world, e.g., Australia and the southern US, McLeod is most common. In Scotland, MacLeod is more common than McLeod. But again, there is no meaningful difference.
Even in my family, some of my relatively recent ancestors used McLeod and some used MacLeod!
@@markkmacleod My Grandmother I believe it was threw the A in ours. Don't know why, no difference. Red River Ancestory is a great place for Canadian MacLeods.
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Surprise! Y'all not indigenous to Lewis, or Skye. MacNicol is.
Grandad could speak fluent gailic
I had never heard of Raasay until a year ago. Thanks for the informative video. My question is what is the difference between MacLeod and McLeod?
There is no difference.