@@Latabledu17ème No, just look at the movements on the steering wheels. Neuville has to move it way less, Ogier is correcting continiously. Intetsting to see sometimes Neuville is ahead , sometimes Ogier. Both exceptional drivers.
@@jfv65 no its a visual effect... depends of the differents angle, you can't compare two movements without a same camera angle that just logic, one angle is near and the other farther away. there are differences but they are exaggerating because of the angle
@@Latabledu17ème I disagree. The work needed by Ogier is clearly visible when looking at his arms when braking and exiting corners. Could be the car or his driving personality but Neuville is not needing to over correct the steering as much as Ogier. Either way, they certainly are both very talented.
@@emesar5233 you wrong! comparaison is impossible if you dont have two same camera angle and two exactly same timing... you need more data for say that
@@Likwidfox There are too many variables which come into play here to make such judgement - Ogier is known for his aggressive driving style (he uses much more steering input, especially compared to Neuville - no matter of car), the camera FOV is different (more you zoom-in, more twitchy footage) etc. If any car is noticeably twitchy in general, it would certainly not be competitive.
The driving style of ogier is to constantly feel for grip, gives that aggressive if not erratic look to the driving where your constantly trying to upset the car to feel and find the limit. This is more common with drivers that prefer gravel and changing or slippery grip levels. Thierry drives much more like a circuit racer, someone who prefers higher grip levels and not deliberately unsettling the car to find more grip. Just different ways of approaching the same task.
The way Ogier keeps turning the wheel is so noticeable that I kept asking myself why does he not lose time. Turns out it's a way to feel for grip, and helps him drive better. Amazing. Actually, I think I'm often unconsciously "toying" with the wheel in DiRT Rally 2.0. I didn't even know I was trying to feel the grip.
Such a difference in style eh? Smooth vs aggressive and Ogier claimed back all the time when braking for the ice just before the narrow bridge nr the end. Thierry was just too cautious. But better be safe than stack it! Good video 👍
@@Latabledu17ème sure, i agree, but the wrc-drivers have to face so many different surfaces and conditions. For example, there is gravel, snow, ice and tarmac.
@@BlueSkyCrystals actually the opposite is true - they wouldn't be able to drive on the limit if they are scared. They need to have some respect though.
Neuville is definitely smoother and the Hyundai does not pitch as much. On other videos the Hyundai shows the car has a huge rooster tail trailing dust indicating the car has significant amount of downforce. This could be why the car is faster on smoother surface. Ogier makes up on loose surface with tight twisting turns because the Yaris has a very short wheelbase making it perfect for tackling the tight turns. The rate of rotation on the Yaris is significantly faster than the Hyundai. Overall, both drivers excel in different ways.
especially in some mid speed 90ndegree corners, Neuville made up a lot of time, carrying more speed. And you're right, Ogier makes up on that on the slippery surfaces and under braking as well. At one time Ogier just yeeted it through a bridge and made up like 2s in 40 metres.
@@surferdude8086 What's thruly amazing is that most drivers, Neuville included, have said on the interviews that they have never ever drove a stage as slippy and tricky as this one, and to me it didn't looked any special - in fact, I went to this page [1] to read their comments on the stage after seeing this video, and got surprised by them. [1] www.ewrc-results.com/results/41079-rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo-2021/?s=293062
Amazing to see how closely these guys were matched. The cars and drivers each have their strong points, so they can eke out an advantage at different parts of the course, but it's a close competition all the way through the stage.
The Hyundai is much more stable in this stage, requiring a lot less driver input and steering movement, and ultimately concentration to complete the stage. Interesting to see.
Neuville seems quicker through the higher speed sections, Ogier gaining in the tighter more slippery areas. Might be car setup too. The Toyota looks sharper on the front end, turning in better. but less stable in the fast stuff. Ultimately it ended up being .7 seconds difference! Be interesting to see Evans on the same stage to compare him with Ogier.
They are incredibly close, only a few tenths after almost 9 minutes. Neuville (right) seems slightly quicker overall but Ogier’s Toyota is surreal on relaunches (after slow corners and hairpins) probably due to better suspensions giving the car a traction advantage... two hairpins and Ogier made up all the losses of the first half.
This is awesome, Neuville seems to get the better exit out of the tight hairpins. Interesting how differently they drive (Ogier slides more, Neuville is smoother with steering inputs) but still the times end up being so close.
why do you guys think Neuville more relaxed than Ogier? no its look like that only beacause of two defferents camera angel, you can see the Ogier camera are so close to him compare to Neuville, if you have practicing karting you know you have to be relaxed and driver at that level are always relaxed
Seb really upsetting the car under braking to feel for the grip and he REALLY attacks the hairpins! Also looks like the Hyundai has an acceleration advantage but it could just be that Seb attacks the entries a bit more.
Damn, the Toyota needs to be thrown into corners like a proper rally car that it is, I wonder if a stiff suspension can be too stiff. He would have beat the Hyundai more confident if it wasn't for the driving errors.
Neuville looks like he’s on a Sunday drive with wife n kids ..incredibly relaxed
i think he look more relaxe beacause of the two different camera angel, the Ogier camera is more close to him
@@Latabledu17ème No, just look at the movements on the steering wheels.
Neuville has to move it way less, Ogier is correcting continiously.
Intetsting to see sometimes Neuville is ahead , sometimes Ogier. Both exceptional drivers.
@@jfv65 no its a visual effect... depends of the differents angle, you can't compare two movements without a same camera angle that just logic, one angle is near and the other farther away. there are differences but they are exaggerating because of the angle
@@Latabledu17ème I disagree. The work needed by Ogier is clearly visible when looking at his arms when braking and exiting corners. Could be the car or his driving personality but Neuville is not needing to over correct the steering as much as Ogier. Either way, they certainly are both very talented.
@@emesar5233 you wrong! comparaison is impossible if you dont have two same camera angle and two exactly same timing... you need more data for say that
It’s fascinating to see the differences in driving style.
@@Likwidfox There are too many variables which come into play here to make such judgement - Ogier is known for his aggressive driving style (he uses much more steering input, especially compared to Neuville - no matter of car), the camera FOV is different (more you zoom-in, more twitchy footage) etc.
If any car is noticeably twitchy in general, it would certainly not be competitive.
The driving style of ogier is to constantly feel for grip, gives that aggressive if not erratic look to the driving where your constantly trying to upset the car to feel and find the limit. This is more common with drivers that prefer gravel and changing or slippery grip levels. Thierry drives much more like a circuit racer, someone who prefers higher grip levels and not deliberately unsettling the car to find more grip. Just different ways of approaching the same task.
Neuville looks like he might go off at any moment being completely oblivious to the conditions. To be honest looks scary to me.
The way Ogier keeps turning the wheel is so noticeable that I kept asking myself why does he not lose time. Turns out it's a way to feel for grip, and helps him drive better. Amazing.
Actually, I think I'm often unconsciously "toying" with the wheel in DiRT Rally 2.0. I didn't even know I was trying to feel the grip.
Yoo ma dude Thierry just chillin' inside his rocketship
Loved to see a pedal cam to compare both driving styles, great video btw
I really enjoyed this one. More stuff like this, please!
Love these split screen comparisons.
Loving these longer videos 👍
I would be nice if we can have more of this kind of video!
Such a difference in style eh? Smooth vs aggressive and Ogier claimed back all the time when braking for the ice just before the narrow bridge nr the end. Thierry was just too cautious. But better be safe than stack it! Good video 👍
Ogier steering style is better to feel the grip, that said amazed that Neuville has that pace with such a calm demeanor.
The best of rally!
The best sport guys Who is agree??
Agree
Yes
i think its an impressive sport but TT race are lot more impressive
@@Latabledu17ème maybe this is the equivalent of TT race in 4 wheels
@@Latabledu17ème sure, i agree, but the wrc-drivers have to face so many different surfaces and conditions. For example, there is gravel, snow, ice and tarmac.
Seb looks like his heartbeat is off the charts. But he obviously knows what he’s doing with all his championships.
If you’re not scared, you’re not driving fast enough.
- Mario Andretti
@@BlueSkyCrystals actually the opposite is true - they wouldn't be able to drive on the limit if they are scared. They need to have some respect though.
@@jendabekCZ I think I’ll take Mario Andretti’s word for it, thanks.
@@BlueSkyCrystals I pretty sure the respect is the word he meant ;)
Neuville is definitely smoother and the Hyundai does not pitch as much. On other videos the Hyundai shows the car has a huge rooster tail trailing dust indicating the car has significant amount of downforce. This could be why the car is faster on smoother surface.
Ogier makes up on loose surface with tight twisting turns because the Yaris has a very short wheelbase making it perfect for tackling the tight turns. The rate of rotation on the Yaris is significantly faster than the Hyundai.
Overall, both drivers excel in different ways.
especially in some mid speed 90ndegree corners, Neuville made up a lot of time, carrying more speed. And you're right, Ogier makes up on that on the slippery surfaces and under braking as well. At one time Ogier just yeeted it through a bridge and made up like 2s in 40 metres.
El mejor video comparativo de habilidad de manejo de los dos mejores conductores
More video like this! 😍 Neuville enjoy the ride & stable.
Awesome video, I would love to see a cam at the pedals also. WRC thanks for making these looooooonger videos.
"WE" absolutely LOVE it.... 🤠
This is getting better and better, good job guys
Ogier driving like his life depends on it.
Fantastic....
The times is almost the same...
Great drivers on WRC..
Thnks FIA
A lot more steering input for Ogier.
no its look like that beacause of the differents camera angel
Hard to be sure with two different camera angles.
Thanks for sharing! Nice shots well the two teams are "very special team" they mastering on this WRC game!
Obvio la calidad de afinidad del vehículo es primordial
Amazing vídeo!!
Great video but not the same camera angle :)
Neuville is just vibing.
it's interesting the different lines they take sometimes that end up with them very even on corner exit. the first hairpin at 0:19 is a good example
Should be great at comparation with both in the same car.
Estaria genial la comparación entre ambos con el mismo coche.
Keyboard vs gamepad.
Ogier seems more aggressive, Neuville seems smoother
And Neuville doesn't like black ice
they could have different tires
yes... so my opinion...
@@HENRIKOIVUROVA no way drive such close with different tires
7:50, Why Neuville was so slow entering the bridge?
If Ogier had the #93 and Neuville the #99, I wouldn't be surprised. It really looks like Márquez vs Lorenzo.
Fantastic fight!
Style difference..... One is rally driving and the other is out for a Sunday drive.
Yet they did the same time
@@roadrunner206 amazing isn't it?
@@surferdude8086 What's thruly amazing is that most drivers, Neuville included, have said on the interviews that they have never ever drove a stage as slippy and tricky as this one, and to me it didn't looked any special - in fact, I went to this page [1] to read their comments on the stage after seeing this video, and got surprised by them.
[1] www.ewrc-results.com/results/41079-rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo-2021/?s=293062
3:33 Roman Kresta's famous crash happened here
wow great callout, just saw the clip!
Yeah with Skoda Octavia in 2002 how time goes fast
Rovanpera same onboard would be interesting too
Amazing to see how closely these guys were matched. The cars and drivers each have their strong points, so they can eke out an advantage at different parts of the course, but it's a close competition all the way through the stage.
Awesome skills
Thierry Neuville 🔥🏁🇧🇪
Great video
The Hyundai is much more stable in this stage, requiring a lot less driver input and steering movement, and ultimately concentration to complete the stage.
Interesting to see.
Neuville seems quicker through the higher speed sections, Ogier gaining in the tighter more slippery areas. Might be car setup too. The Toyota looks sharper on the front end, turning in better. but less stable in the fast stuff. Ultimately it ended up being .7 seconds difference! Be interesting to see Evans on the same stage to compare him with Ogier.
It would be funny to see Neuville and Evans side to side 😂
This is why i love wrc
Wonderfull !
They are incredibly close, only a few tenths after almost 9 minutes. Neuville (right) seems slightly quicker overall but Ogier’s Toyota is surreal on relaunches (after slow corners and hairpins) probably due to better suspensions giving the car a traction advantage... two hairpins and Ogier made up all the losses of the first half.
Ogier looks very serious while Neuville drove very calmly
Frumoasă paralela !
Cuál es problema que no viene a la Argentina
Really amazing!
LEGEND
Se nota los segundos, q al final definen todo
Neuvillie is about to fall asleep...so relaxed 😎
Neuville! This year will be it!
it will , he deserves one World title
increible,,,,,, excelente
Neuville just doesnt give a fook ! what a legend.
my favorite Belgian rally driver ever
More of this please!!!
Neuville is total relax!
This is awesome, Neuville seems to get the better exit out of the tight hairpins. Interesting how differently they drive (Ogier slides more, Neuville is smoother with steering inputs) but still the times end up being so close.
Neuville parece que lleva a los niños detrás y Ogier parece que lleva un Audi Quattro S1...
Sests voitures sonts devenu des vrais robots
Ogier doesnt even blink
why do you guys think Neuville more relaxed than Ogier? no its look like that only beacause of two defferents camera angel, you can see the Ogier camera are so close to him compare to Neuville, if you have practicing karting you know you have to be relaxed and driver at that level are always relaxed
Neuville santuy banget nyetirnya, seperti lagi jalan-jalan aja. Beda banget sama gayanya Seb Ogier
Tl;dw you're watching the difference between Takumi and Keisuke's driving style (no seriously this is a great analogy for that)
Chilling , but comming 2nd
Seb really upsetting the car under braking to feel for the grip and he REALLY attacks the hairpins!
Also looks like the Hyundai has an acceleration advantage but it could just be that Seb attacks the entries a bit more.
No se aprecia el buen manejo de estos sos grandes pilotos por la pantalla dividida en cuatro
Damn neuville lost quite a bit on the black ice section at the end. Let's go thierry🇧🇪🔥
listening to French co-driver boost your speed by 69%
トヨタはずいぶん運転しにくそうだな。クルマの挙動もヒュンダイの方が安定している。
しかもスピードレースになったらヒュンダイの勝ちという感じ。
つまりトヨタは「いちかばちか」。
先々「代償」を払うのはトヨタの方になりそうだな。
Damn, the Toyota needs to be thrown into corners like a proper rally car that it is, I wonder if a stiff suspension can be too stiff. He would have beat the Hyundai more confident if it wasn't for the driving errors.
Awesome!
If Ogier was a little softer in the twisty parts, he would’ve smoked Neuville
no korea car.
🚗👍
Toyota has better brakes and Hyundai has differentials.
Ogier seems to be slipping way more
Toyota car difficult to drive
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