Glad to see real rally drivers are just as slow as I am when driving on ice in new WRC game. Really happy they showed the footwork. Looks like tap dancing lessons are a must.
There's an issue: the WRC game has too much grip even on ice, and virtually no grip differences between the snowy tarmac and the clean one, making it super easy to drive. Here we can see how even the little grip differences between wheels makes the car edgy and lose the rear immediately, which is why he plays so much with the pedals: he's constantly looking for grip changes and stabilizing the car.
@@paolonieri473 It has even more grip, and less grip differences. The cars drive just smoothly over the road. But in real life, let's say, when the drivers hit the brakes, the tyres might be exposed to different grip levels as the car goes over a little ice patch or bit of slush or water. The wheel or wheels going over that slippery bit can't slow down as the ones going over the grippier parts, and thus they remain with higher inertia than the others. They "go away" from the rest. But since they are attached to the same car as the others, this means they bring the whole thing with them. This can make the car wiggle a lot, with very high risks of losing control. A simpler scenario: the left-hand side wheels are going through an ice patch, and the right ones are going over grippy tarmac. Then you hit the brakes. What will happen? The car will oversteer massively towards the right, because the left-hand side wheels are not slowing down as much as the right ones. You can stabilize the car by lifting the brake pedal, and using the throttle. The opposite will happen: the car will oversteer massively towards the left, because the right-hand side wheels are pushing forwards way more than the left ones. This is why the driver here is constantly changing intermittently between throttle and brake. Grip differences are constant in real life, specially in the Monte with proper winter conditions. But in Dirt Rally and EA WRC, they never happen, or are extremely trivial.
@@zwjna when accelerating, the effect is not necessarily so clear. it depends on the differential setting. with a loose setting, the tire on ice rotates, but the one on asphalt does not, because the force is directed to the one that rotates more easily. this is what it does in a regular car. today here in Finland there was ice on the bottom and 10cm of wet slush on top, so I know what I'm talking about.
@@Dassualt Ah thanks! Where did i get the idea of the boost pedal from? i remember seeing a clip where throttle, break and boost was shown. maybe its not a pedal then?
@@Bheem161it’s the clutch they use it to keep the revs up so they don’t stall which is why it seems like a boost because the high revs jolt the car forwards, the boost you’re thinking of is just the hybrid unit but they show it as a telemetry bar same way as pedal traces sometimes
Oh, right, didn't notice the paddle-shifter. I've seen other configurations, but transm. doesn't need clutch push to shift, so when is it needed to be pushed? Why was the clutch used for the hairpin curve?
@juliobro1 clutch is used off the start line (though afaik some launch controls can hold itself) For hairpins they are used since at such low speed its possible to stall the engine. Most modern sequential transmissions don't need clutch between gears, and are mapped to have a brief throttle cut you drivers can just pull a gear flat to the floor
Glad to see real rally drivers are just as slow as I am when driving on ice in new WRC game.
Really happy they showed the footwork. Looks like tap dancing lessons are a must.
There's an issue: the WRC game has too much grip even on ice, and virtually no grip differences between the snowy tarmac and the clean one, making it super easy to drive. Here we can see how even the little grip differences between wheels makes the car edgy and lose the rear immediately, which is why he plays so much with the pedals: he's constantly looking for grip changes and stabilizing the car.
Bo Jangles Robinson should have been a rally driver.
@@zwjnaWhat about dirt 2.0 on the same conditions?
@@paolonieri473 It has even more grip, and less grip differences. The cars drive just smoothly over the road. But in real life, let's say, when the drivers hit the brakes, the tyres might be exposed to different grip levels as the car goes over a little ice patch or bit of slush or water. The wheel or wheels going over that slippery bit can't slow down as the ones going over the grippier parts, and thus they remain with higher inertia than the others. They "go away" from the rest. But since they are attached to the same car as the others, this means they bring the whole thing with them. This can make the car wiggle a lot, with very high risks of losing control.
A simpler scenario: the left-hand side wheels are going through an ice patch, and the right ones are going over grippy tarmac. Then you hit the brakes. What will happen? The car will oversteer massively towards the right, because the left-hand side wheels are not slowing down as much as the right ones. You can stabilize the car by lifting the brake pedal, and using the throttle. The opposite will happen: the car will oversteer massively towards the left, because the right-hand side wheels are pushing forwards way more than the left ones. This is why the driver here is constantly changing intermittently between throttle and brake. Grip differences are constant in real life, specially in the Monte with proper winter conditions. But in Dirt Rally and EA WRC, they never happen, or are extremely trivial.
@@zwjna
when accelerating, the effect is not necessarily so clear. it depends on the differential setting.
with a loose setting, the tire on ice rotates, but the one on asphalt does not, because the force is directed to the one that rotates more easily. this is what it does in a regular car.
today here in Finland there was ice on the bottom and 10cm of wet slush on top, so I know what I'm talking about.
That spin on the straight at 20:35 was insane. Such a tiny mistake while braking.
Glad to see him back in WRC car.
Awesome ❤
Wow, that was an intense stage! Great driving and spectacular scenery!✌️
dayum
This is so slippery its like driving on ice
In wrc you have better grip on ice then snow and gravel
Driving on ice roads in Sweden is much easier.
@@VeronEK1988 yea those wrc winter tyres are mad
@@ThirstyTurtle328 yea i know
He was
What a gorgeous piece of road that must be for much of the year
Thank you
Onboard videos are really cool. Thanks FIA WRC! One recommendation and that is uploading in 60fps pls
You can hear those cars begging to be unleashed. Wow, the guts it takes to tackle snow stages!
Grandiii
mind blowing driving, so much breaking and controlling the car so you don't plunge to death in a cliff.
Normal road for a Norwegian..😂 Really impressive.
as fan of dis year calendar and cars ❤
This is a crazy run. Anyone know if there’s any snow in Monte Carlo for next weekends rally?❤
I heard its going to be a dry weekend.
Full credit for being able to control the car while it struggles for grip in the snow. Also, back when the road is very snowy unlike nowadays
Winter Tires MonteCarlo with studs or without studs on this stage? Anyone knows?
PS is the same stage wchich was upload by this channel.5 years ago
Without studs
Amazing stage. Beautiful landscapes and very difficult conditiones to drive. Great onboard.
Mikkelsen❤
Only pure ICE. This is the rally.
lmfao
sometimes you just need to slow down to get a bestimes
Concentration exemplaire.
When do they use the third pedal? Its for boost isnt it? Seemed like they use it in very steep curves?
That's the clutch pedal. During acute hairpins comers they use the handbrake and press on the clutch to keep the car from stalling.
@@Dassualt Ah thanks! Where did i get the idea of the boost pedal from? i remember seeing a clip where throttle, break and boost was shown. maybe its not a pedal then?
@@Bheem161it’s the clutch they use it to keep the revs up so they don’t stall which is why it seems like a boost because the high revs jolt the car forwards, the boost you’re thinking of is just the hybrid unit but they show it as a telemetry bar same way as pedal traces sometimes
No Hybrid Boost on these Cars, Hybrid was only introduced in 2022, this onboard is from 2018@@Bheem161
@@thomaswp2706 @matthewmyatt2625 ah thanks for clearing that up guys!
This tells why drivers from Finland are just faster than others on snow and ice.
Mikkelsen is from Norway
He is Norwegian
Drivers from Finland do not spin on straights@@gosc00
Drivers from Finland do not spin on straights@@dimitrisqwerty
Playing Monte Carlo on automatic is pain. Good on you wrc drivers.
Is he using paddle shifters? I thought they all used a normal sequential shifter
In 2022, with the Rally1 regulations, the cars reverted back to manual sequential shifting
So, the far left pedal is the "e-brake"?
If so, then the tall handle is for shifting, right?
Was he running mostly on one gear?
Left pedal is clutch, handle is handbrake and the gear shift is the paddle behind the wheel.
Car has a paddle shifter on the steering column (pull to shift up, push to shift down), hand brake, and clutch, brake pedal, and throttle.
Oh, right, didn't notice the paddle-shifter.
I've seen other configurations, but transm. doesn't need clutch push to shift, so when is it needed to be pushed? Why was the clutch used for the hairpin curve?
@juliobro1 clutch is used off the start line (though afaik some launch controls can hold itself)
For hairpins they are used since at such low speed its possible to stall the engine.
Most modern sequential transmissions don't need clutch between gears, and are mapped to have a brief throttle cut you drivers can just pull a gear flat to the floor
That's what I thought; for too low speeds.
Thanks guys!
123, hello
Let’s see any F1 driver attempt that👍
of course the Vikings are good at ice rally racing
The worst kind of condition. They've got way better grip in Sweden with lower tempratures.
become a Christian today!!
This must have been exhausting