Yes, but I own both. The G80 M3 and now the LCI M340i. I prefer the M340i everyday. Just no comparison. The M340i is just so practical. The M3 is great for track days but so impractical.
@@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568 Well practicality wise they are essentially the same car so i dont lnow what you mean. I also sold my m3 for a 340i to save some money since it was my daily, but theres not a day i wouldnt pick it over my m3.
My stripped 2023 comp x was 82k in Ohio. M340’s we’re mid to high 60’s. Honestly was a no brainer. M3’s hold their value so much better as well. I daily drive mine and could not be happier, minus my c7 vette , it is the most fun car I have owned and don’t mind 3-4 hour road trips.
I can drop 90k on an M3. I don’t WANT to. Beaver front and not a daily driver . M340i is great I have no regrets. I’ll tune it and do,exhaust etc at some point
Yes, because they even use different engine codes and parts. The m340i‘s engine is developed in house by bmw and is called the B58, whereas the M3‘s engine gets new parts and gets retuned by the M devision and that engine is called the S58
@@drkennethnoisewater4469 From a tuning standpoint it is a big difference. The S58 comes with a forged crankshaft, piston rods, and pistons. It can handle way more power.
The S58 is based on the B58TU, but only 10% of the components are same & 90% are different or new or present in some sort of an upgrade. It’s not just different internals and it’s not just different engines, the cars are quite different. You can get an S58 in an Alpina B3s and it isn’t an M car
@@squidwardshouse67 disagreed… 330i looks better than that chrome honeycomb design they have going on with M340i At least it’s blacked out on M2 and M3
Agreed. Christ i dont know why no research was conducted. Its a good car and a great alternative for those who dont need the full M feeling but bro they are not the same…
I think what he means is for the common person, that probably doesn’t take their car to the track, the M340i is sufficient. It’s on my list for next possible cars lol
There’s always a huge difference in the handling between true M cars and cars with just an M Performance package. You can tune a 340 to keep up but the way they drive and handle is night and day. I still love my 440 and it’s tuned to 600 hp but it’s no M4
I owned the v8 m3 and f80 m3. Stock, they sounded not as good as when you replace the exhaust systems. This new m340 however sounds deeper and less raspy than their M counterparts. These days however, I my daily is a Ford ranger while my m5 comp is my weekender.
The ‘different internals’ include just very very minor stuff like redesigned bore and stroke for higher revs, forged internals, extra turbos. Almost like this was… a different engine…
That exhaust sounded pretty dang good for a stock BMW! That engine note is way better sounding than the twin turbo set-ups even though I prefer them for performance reasons. Can wait to hear it uncorked further and really let her scream!
If you can afford it, definitely buy the M3. With the exception of the doors and boot lid, every other part on the car is unique and an upgrade…especially the engine which is not even close.
I'm new to the BMW brand. Im 6'3 so i need room but im slim so i dont need a big body. I only make 70k i will be financing. This m3 40i or a regular 5 series? I only need serious replies . I like speed but in nyc you can only open the car so much because every block has a speeding camera so highway is the only way to party.
M340i is a great option if you can’t afford a M3, however why bother when you can get an M2 at the same price of a M340i. Let’s me be honest, how often do you sticks adults or teens in the back seats anyways. 🤔
the b58 is not an M engine as much as might think it may be, and the whole suspension geometry isn’t even focussed for track driving it’s more of bmws general purpose vehicle with a slightly more powerful engine
if you want an sporty but family and comfortable sedan get the m340i but if you want something sporty and can spend a LOT more buy the m3 it's an complete different animal
Different engine from an M3, less stiff. This is a better daily but slower from 0-60 and less quick around a track, even though it’s very nice. It’s also more under the radar then the M3
They are completely different. The M3 has a S58 engine which is a twin-turbo HOT-V design of the B58. B58 makes 382 HP or maybe 400 while the S58 makes 503HP or 600HP. Two completely different yet similar engines.
The 340i is no slouch but its an entirely different experience from an M3. The difference between the two is literally night and day and this is obvious if you’ve driven both.
I do not agree, i ordered LCI M340ix last year and i'm kinda disappointed, ordered M3 last month...it's only similar to M3 in straightline acceleration up to 130-50 kph, apart from that its vastly but i mean really vastly inferior to M3 in everything.... brakes, grip, body roll...
That’s exhaust sounds ass if you were getting a 340i get one from like 2016-2019 or something like that and put a custom exhaust system on it then it might be better who knows
360ish hp vs 510hp M3 suspension M3 looks (OK, the grill, whatever) M3 seats You may even find the M3 looses less money due to the added prestige. Especially further down the line when they're both a bit older on the used market.
A stock turbo f80 with a proper custom tune (and not those weak OTS maps) on E85 will still top end a hybrid turbo B58 (on E85). But at lower speeds the m340i will be extremely hard to catch with the X drive and all
Imo, I’d just buy the m340i because with the money I save I can tune it, building is way better than buying also more adjustments for comfort, like lots of power but still want soft suspension? Just mod the engine
Yes good idea..they dont have any M3 they have to custom build theman they start at 120 grand an i want one but im not sure if i want to go that far...if i did go to that extent my M3 would be a track car...so the 345 i is a good option bmw all handle outstanding a twin turbo V6 sounds like the hot ticket...Bmw s are race proven...the handling is the best part of owning one....i will probably get the 345i because they had a used one at my local dealership...anyway...
No, plz no. Don't be this guy. Buy an M3 and you will never regret it. Buy anything else and the moment a bad ass M3 pulls up beside you will feel it. Instant regret. People like this guy are the very people who didn’t buy an M model and regret it or even worse throw an M badge on it
As so many people have stated, no. These engines/cars are very different. Sure the M340i is seemingly a good car, but to say it’s the same as an M3…just seems silly.
💯 I could sell my g80 m3 comp x for more than I paid 3 months ago. 10 years from now the m340 won’t be worth much and the mild hybrid system will probably fail. The m340 was also only 10k less than mine, while still a lot of money, 70k to 80k isn’t much considering how much better the m3 is.
@@OneTwoThreePunch wait, the M3 competition is only like 15% more than the M340 in your are??? Where do you live, man? I’m in Australia and here the M3 is literally double the M340 haha
@@jordanj9069 Ohio, my stripped 2023 m3 comp x was 80k even before taxes & title. It’s still a lot of money but even a 330 here is 62k. Kelly bmw here in town sold it to me for msrp, no markup. I am getting my 1200 mile service done in 2 weeks so I can finally open it up.
M cars not only have a better engine but every suspension peice in the car is upgraded, lighter, and better interiors. If the third letter of the vin ain’t an S. It ain’t an M car.
Engines are completely different …..m3 is a completely different animal
Yes, but I own both. The G80 M3 and now the LCI M340i. I prefer the M340i everyday. Just no comparison. The M340i is just so practical. The M3 is great for track days but so impractical.
@@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568 m3 is impractical???😄 what? I will never chose the 340i over an m3 there is no way 😄
@@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568 it’s like choosing Audi s5 over an RS5 or Mercedes c43 amg over c63g 😂😂😂😂 come on man
@@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568 Well practicality wise they are essentially the same car so i dont lnow what you mean. I also sold my m3 for a 340i to save some money since it was my daily, but theres not a day i wouldnt pick it over my m3.
@@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568 you’re lying
Completely different vehicles. But the M340i has amazing value for someone who wants a sporty sedan and can’t drop 90k on a M3
It’s 90k€ in Europe lmao
And the m3 is about 130k
My stripped 2023 comp x was 82k in Ohio. M340’s we’re mid to high 60’s. Honestly was a no brainer. M3’s hold their value so much better as well. I daily drive mine and could not be happier, minus my c7 vette , it is the most fun car I have owned and don’t mind 3-4 hour road trips.
I can drop 90k on an M3. I don’t WANT to. Beaver front and not a daily driver . M340i is great I have no regrets. I’ll tune it and do,exhaust etc at some point
@@OneTwoThreePunchis the suspension okay in confort mode when going on a bumpy road?
@@lelequebecois9668meh it’s ok, I deal with it to drive an M car. I live in Ohio so the roads aren’t great
They are both 3.0L I6, but they are completely different motors, and an M3 and M340i drive completely differently.
Yes, because they even use different engine codes and parts. The m340i‘s engine is developed in house by bmw and is called the B58, whereas the M3‘s engine gets new parts and gets retuned by the M devision and that engine is called the S58
@@philipleminhtien9942 its a completely different engine altogether
@@adamek9750 thats wrong. S58 is based on the B58 and they share like 70% of parts.
@@questionyourself718 you are totally wrong
@@Top_g80comp nope, just straight facs
Different internals is a huge difference lol
Much different.. Not to mention the entire body is different. Especially the rear ¼ panels.
@@drkennethnoisewater4469 From a tuning standpoint it is a big difference. The S58 comes with a forged crankshaft, piston rods, and pistons. It can handle way more power.
The S58 is based on the B58TU, but only 10% of the components are same & 90% are different or new or present in some sort of an upgrade.
It’s not just different internals and it’s not just different engines, the cars are quite different.
You can get an S58 in an Alpina B3s and it isn’t an M car
Less than 10% of the hardware in the S58(M3) is actually shared with the B58(M340i)
The M3 is one of the last manual rwd saloons it's completely different from a regular 3 series
M340i gets B58 and M3 gets S58
The suspension on the M3 is much firmer and it will be much quicker around the track
The thing is that M3 looks so hideous even the engine won’t save it. I’d rather have the 340 than an M3 tbh.
@@JayYang0327 m340i is much uglier unfortunately but that’s just my opinion
You should have gotten the new m2
@@exoticwhipsbroadspipesandbags Lmao the M2 and M3 are way uglier than than the M340i
@@squidwardshouse67 disagreed… 330i looks better than that chrome honeycomb design they have going on with M340i
At least it’s blacked out on M2 and M3
you think M3 owners are tracking their cars? Lmao. You know most of em are just ripping around in the city or highways.
Nope, I wanted a manual… and, the engine is completely different. Not even the same block.
This guy knows nothing, an m340i is a great car in its own way but don’t ever convince yourself its a real M car
Why does it say M on it then. You're sounding like a crazy person. Bmw would say its a proper M car. And they built it you didnt
Agreed 💯🤘
Agree
Agreed. Christ i dont know why no research was conducted. Its a good car and a great alternative for those who dont need the full M feeling but bro they are not the same…
Except the m240i is faster than the m2, the awd makes the difference
Anyone who has driven both knows that this is nonsense.
😂😂😂
Is M3 and M340i are different??
More comfrable suspension enough power for most in stock form. Also can be tuned a lot if that isnt enough. Even when tuned cheaper than M3
I had an M440 GC and just took delivery of my manual G80. Feels like a totally different car - way more connected and visceral
Where is the gear shifter along with the third pedal???
I think it's a budget thing,those 2 cars are totally different performance
S58 vs B58 everything is different not the just the internals
I think what he means is for the common person, that probably doesn’t take their car to the track, the M340i is sufficient. It’s on my list for next possible cars lol
OMG I WAS ABOUT TO SIGN THE PAPERWORK THANKS!!
lol
There’s always a huge difference in the handling between true M cars and cars with just an M Performance package. You can tune a 340 to keep up but the way they drive and handle is night and day. I still love my 440 and it’s tuned to 600 hp but it’s no M4
Respect
Respect 🫡💯🤘
I said f it bought a 2025 M4 comp x and it's a beast, I considered the 440i and said naa get the M
Yes the handling in the M cars is on another level, however there is a big trade off in comfort due to this.
M3 or M340i which one is better?
Even though the s58 is derived from the b58, they are still entirely different engines. S58 is an incredible beast.
What's this? A BMW with a normal looking grill? Are we sure this car exists?
This and the m5 i think are my favorite when it comes to looks on current bmw, the z3 may be ugly to others but I think it looks so cool
If you can afford an M3.... you buy an M3... the 340i is nothing like an M3.
Exactly my point it’s like comparing a m550i with M5 😄💯🤘
M3 not even hard to obtain for anyone with a job if they really want something like that.
M3 front end looks like poo though
@@uberrandomperson $118,000? Yeah if you don’t have kids and aren’t worried about your car taking up 40% of your monthly income
😂
I owned the v8 m3 and f80 m3. Stock, they sounded not as good as when you replace the exhaust systems. This new m340 however sounds deeper and less raspy than their M counterparts. These days however, I my daily is a Ford ranger while my m5 comp is my weekender.
I feel if you’re going to invest invest in what’s going to make you happy, obviously do it responsibly though.
A tuned M340I vs Stock M3 which to choose🤔
M340i is a nice car. Very fast and sounds good too.
This is why I went with an M240i instead of an M2. It didn’t offer that much more relative to how much more it costs. Not worth it imo.
But you will always think about that M2. I think it's good to scratch that itch at some point in life.
I started with the m240i, hated the looks of the m2, so I bought a M4 comp x 2025. Best decision ever
engine point is invalid
its like calling an f30 335i an m3 because its got an n55
Completely different cars, engine, suspension, bracing, internals, weight.
The ‘different internals’ include just very very minor stuff like redesigned bore and stroke for higher revs, forged internals, extra turbos. Almost like this was… a different engine…
Can i get three pedal then instead of m3?
Dosent the M3 have 0-60 in 2.7 seconds?
That exhaust sounded pretty dang good for a stock BMW! That engine note is way better sounding than the twin turbo set-ups even though I prefer them for performance reasons. Can wait to hear it uncorked further and really let her scream!
It sounded like a cheap dirtbike
@@CultureNews1 Way too deep for a tiny dirt bike engine! I don't know any dirt bikes with 3 liter engines!
If you can afford it, definitely buy the M3. With the exception of the doors and boot lid, every other part on the car is unique and an upgrade…especially the engine which is not even close.
Agree! Every time. And more under the radar!
How much coke
I'm new to the BMW brand. Im 6'3 so i need room but im slim so i dont need a big body. I only make 70k i will be financing. This m3 40i or a regular 5 series? I only need serious replies . I like speed but in nyc you can only open the car so much because every block has a speeding camera so highway is the only way to party.
How much is it?
I don't like the vacuum attachment mufflers.. Beautiful car though!!
Do you know the difference between an s and a b ?
What on earth is an “active” exhaust?
M340i is a great option if you can’t afford a M3, however why bother when you can get an M2 at the same price of a M340i. Let’s me be honest, how often do you sticks adults or teens in the back seats anyways. 🤔
Probably because the M2 is ugly as fuck and it weighs as much as the bigger vehicles
The same engine is an insane sentence, 40i has a B58 which produces 300HP while the M3 uses an S55B30 producing over 400HP
the b58 is not an M engine as much as might think it may be, and the whole suspension geometry isn’t even focussed for track driving it’s more of bmws general purpose vehicle with a slightly more powerful engine
but NO manual! how is an automatic sports car fun to drive?
Slightly different internals? Like the engine is made of a completely different material
The engine is actually completely different
There’s a lot more to a car than the engine and exhaust notes
if you want an sporty but family and comfortable sedan get the m340i but if you want something sporty and can spend a LOT more buy the m3 it's an complete different animal
I’ve just sold my X4M Comp with that S58 engine. I can confirm it left M340i (or anything else with the B58) in its dust.
Same engine? What a dufus thing to say
The engine is very different....
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Its a speced audi RS6
@@TheWeavingBagel and Im also a car, A Modified Mazda 808 with tomei exhaust
Different engine from an M3, less stiff. This is a better daily but slower from 0-60 and less quick around a track, even though it’s very nice. It’s also more under the radar then the M3
Is there a diff between 340i and m340i??
lol no its the same thing, i guess its just easier to say it without the M
They are completely different. The M3 has a S58 engine which is a twin-turbo HOT-V design of the B58. B58 makes 382 HP or maybe 400 while the S58 makes 503HP or 600HP. Two completely different yet similar engines.
You really want to compare a 340i resale value with an M3?
Is this the one with the fake exhaust pops
The 340i is no slouch but its an entirely different experience from an M3. The difference between the two is literally night and day and this is obvious if you’ve driven both.
Question is which will be worth more say on 5year time
I do not agree, i ordered LCI M340ix last year and i'm kinda disappointed, ordered M3 last month...it's only similar to M3 in straightline acceleration up to 130-50 kph, apart from that its vastly but i mean really vastly inferior to M3 in everything.... brakes, grip, body roll...
You're right: don't buy an M3 if you somehow think the M340i is enough for you. I'll keep my S58 M3 comp xdrive :) Happy with it.
The Pre-LCI G20 looks better interior-wise and exterior-wise. The M340i is a menace tho, that's for sure.
That’s exhaust sounds ass if you were getting a 340i get one from like 2016-2019 or something like that and put a custom exhaust system on it then it might be better who knows
360ish hp vs 510hp
M3 suspension
M3 looks (OK, the grill, whatever)
M3 seats
You may even find the M3 looses less money due to the added prestige. Especially further down the line when they're both a bit older on the used market.
The M cars are amazing for a spirited drive with their amazing handling but annoying as a daily.
A hybrid turbo and a few bolts ons with some good tyres then you could maybe gap an f80 m3
With all that money you could have m3 and add mods still
A stock turbo f80 with a proper custom tune (and not those weak OTS maps) on E85 will still top end a hybrid turbo B58 (on E85). But at lower speeds the m340i will be extremely hard to catch with the X drive and all
340 cannot switch off front axle
2020 m340i is the best. It kept the shifter knob and not a mild hybrid. Meaning deeper sound
I own the current 340i and I test drove the M3. The M3 is everything you want the 340i to be but better. Why I’m collecting my m3 next week.
so…can i convert from f30?
Eeeey! The steering wheel is on the correct side of the car! Good on you!
Imo, I’d just buy the m340i because with the money I save I can tune it, building is way better than buying also more adjustments for comfort, like lots of power but still want soft suspension? Just mod the engine
Cost in canada ?
Almost same pricing when you add like 3 add ons on the m340i so at that point might as well just go with the m3
It’s so similar to my car. I want something with more torgue down low
this is what every M light owner wants to hear lmfao
Everybody seems to ignore the fact that the M3 can be configured with a manual gearbox, while the M3⁴⁰ can't.
Yes good idea..they dont have any M3 they have to custom build theman they start at 120 grand an i want one but im not sure if i want to go that far...if i did go to that extent my M3 would be a track car...so the 345 i is a good option bmw all handle outstanding a twin turbo V6 sounds like the hot ticket...Bmw s are race proven...the handling is the best part of owning one....i will probably get the 345i because they had a used one at my local dealership...anyway...
The truth of the matter is that one could buy an M340i along with a solid daily drive for the price of M3 comp xdrive
Nice try FBI, I’m not selling my M2C anytime soon
Thank god you saved me, I was just about to buy m3😂
As someone who owns an M3 Xdrive and test drove the m340i. Yeah no thanks lol. I’ll stick to my m3.
If it was someone else paying for it which would you choose,
There's your answer
I’ve driven both, I can assure you the m3 is on another level.
Thanks man for making me aware no i will cancel my booking for m3
So much is different. 0-60 similar and that’s where it ends. LoL
Decent review but comparing those engines is like comparing a m54 to a s54 I’ve had both and they’re completely different
No, plz no. Don't be this guy. Buy an M3 and you will never regret it. Buy anything else and the moment a bad ass M3 pulls up beside you will feel it. Instant regret.
People like this guy are the very people who didn’t buy an M model and regret it or even worse throw an M badge on it
This car has the m competition seats, you can’t get that as an option in the us with this trim
As much as M light cars are good. There is a big difference between an M light and a full M car.
Different class of car. I’d still take an M3, especially with the manual
S58 vs B58… Only because both are 6 zylinder biturbo its not the same engine
What's the point
Bro said poor to me in infinite ways
As so many people have stated, no. These engines/cars are very different. Sure the M340i is seemingly a good car, but to say it’s the same as an M3…just seems silly.
I feel like an M3 is actually cheaper to own because it’ll hold much more of its value
💯 I could sell my g80 m3 comp x for more than I paid 3 months ago. 10 years from now the m340 won’t be worth much and the mild hybrid system will probably fail. The m340 was also only 10k less than mine, while still a lot of money, 70k to 80k isn’t much considering how much better the m3 is.
@@OneTwoThreePunch wait, the M3 competition is only like 15% more than the M340 in your are??? Where do you live, man?
I’m in Australia and here the M3 is literally double the M340 haha
@@jordanj9069 Ohio, my stripped 2023 m3 comp x was 80k even before taxes & title. It’s still a lot of money but even a 330 here is 62k. Kelly bmw here in town sold it to me for msrp, no markup. I am getting my 1200 mile service done in 2 weeks so I can finally open it up.
@@OneTwoThreePunch that’s fantastic value, man. Here in Australia, a new 340 starts at 102k while the standard M3 starts at 177k
@@jordanj9069 wow, that would change my mind on models. Cheers brother
0-100 in 3.8? Hmmm... Maybe in a space vacuum?
Who tf said they have the same engine.....?
This feels like the Wish version of Forest Review shorts.
M cars not only have a better engine but every suspension peice in the car is upgraded, lighter, and better interiors. If the third letter of the vin ain’t an S. It ain’t an M car.