+afsdafsd kek Yes he is wrong. He is crying about Fizz killing him 1v1, when Fizz was 4/1 at that point and he was 1/1/1, Fizz was 10 level, while he was 8 and as for Tyler's items, they were all over the place, meanwhile Fizz had a complete Sunfire Cape, so yeah it is logical for Fizz to kill him 1v1. If someone doesn't understand that, they shouldn't be commenting on here.
+SuperNoob he aint talking about the fight...he is talking about the tank meta in league right now, and he is not wrong. Even pro's and high elo players called the tank meta boring and broken, picking a tank and then doing more dmg than ad building champions is fucked up and unfun. But hey, if you're having fun with it , great.
actually something that I can agree with Tyler on. Tank meta just kills the game. Thank goodness Riot is finally nerfing guantlet even though I don't know if it will be enough.
fhtyjuk dzfghj ppl will never be happy man its always a vicious circle, tank meta everyone will complain that they cant kill tanks , assassin meta everyone will complain that they get one shotted adc meta everyone will complain how good they scale.
+David Thuy WHIT-FKING-NEY LMAO JACKSFILMS HERE HE COMES
8 ปีที่แล้ว +2
Alex Thesleff - Bad Karma the sample goes as follows: "O na kar man rupaiye wala bar bar ke na rajje " ("Don't be proud of your money because it will never satisfy you.") It's Punjabi language.
Fizz had thornmail and wits end. Unlike Jhin, Fizz does have dps-- And also with his thornmail, he deals damage with the autos of his enemies. Fizz gained more damage in total over Jhin, since the damage was nearly constant
+Jesus Mesina because tyler is legit toxic. he's verbally violent and completely abusive. the most anyone throws back at him is witty banter.. if you consider that toxic then your parents must've been the kind of people that took your gameboy away as punishment or lowered you allowance from 100$ a week to 90$
First of all, sunfire cape does damage overtime. Adding to that, thornmail returns part of the damage taken so those two items already give out damage and fizz's base damage is already pretty high, adding to that the sheen procs
+gay ha Well hes not flaming that much in chat tbh and mostly he flames when the enemys trigger him just cause he is tyler1, i think raging is ok as long as you dont spamm the chat which he didnt really if you ask me. And i understand why he raged. He is just saying what most of the people think about iceborn, sunfire and spirit visage.
Build a last whisper FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY DO PEOPLE FORGET THAT'S A THING. I rarely see ADCs take that item when there are even multiple tanks on the enemy team.
+Plobber (Grapes) 30% BONUS armor penetration isn't much when they build 100-200 armor. Plus a last whisper one of your first items is extremely inefficient
+gluckskecks It builds into 2 items that give 45% armor pen. And LW is cheap as an item just to buy without yet upgrading it. If you buy it, you will be able to do damage to tanks. Easy as that. If you're having tank troubles, spend a measly 1300 and get 30% armor pen. At 100 armor, they have 50% damage reduction. At 70 with the armor pen, they only reduce 41% of your damage. YOUR DOING 18% MORE DAMAGE TO THEM. Then late game when they have 200 armor, finish the LW build and you'll reduce their armor pretty much to 110. That 67% reduced damage to 52%. That's big. And this Fizz had 111 armor, not a measly 60.
+Gonzalo Colarte It's 15 less damage than a BF sword. It's not that much less damage. 1300 gold for the last whisper plus another couple hundred for a long sword is basically a better alternative than buying a BF sword. downside is, you get a minor delay with your item you would have built that BF sword into. And not by much, either.
+Plobber (Grapes) Can't edit for some reason. Anyways, bottom line is, he refused to build a 45% god damn armor pen item against a tank with 190 armor. Stacked with that Youmouu's he had, he could have been shredded Fizz quite a bit.
Don't really like the guy, but hes right af at this one. As Valkrin said - if tank build is as effective on assassin as regular one, then something's really fucked up.
+Sinyster Hughes To be fair, you can easily fight against tank assassins while they minimize their damage if you maximize yours with some viability. Cowsep's been playing tank master yi for years before the tank meta came into place, and it's because Yi's E gives extra damage as well as a lot of attack speed and free resetting Alpha for dodging. Fizz gets it with his DoT and just the fact he can build Iceborn/Any form of Sheen and his Q applies an amplified version of it. Any two damage items makes the assassins worthy of being feared, then if they choose to become tankier, then that's when you take the chance you can to start shutting them down because you're able to kite them depending on champ. At least imo.
Galeronis Yi isnt a assassin(gameplay wise, not talking bout the category riot gave him), and building damage is more expensive atm then building tank, thats the point. So if assassins who are supposed to work with those big, expensive items are okay with those cheap tank items, then this is a problem, since they dont even have to try to snowball so hard as usual. Kite Fizz? Show me this happen bro ;D
Sinyster Hughes Fizz doesn't have super low CDs on all skills, even with 40% cdr, and yi can be an assassin if you build him straight damage, gameplay wise as well as stated by Riot, though I've always just considered him an assassin through gameplay because even without full build, Highlander just gives him a massive damage increase while not being slow. Though it's nice to see multiple opinions, and not all assassin items are expensive. You could go the cheaper assassin route on a non-tanky team and be just as effective. But we may also be in two different mmrs, or you more casual or I could be. Just remember this is hypothetical and opinionated :)
Galeronis well ofc. Also note that theres frustration of this stupid meta flowing through me. To be really precise, we would have to do proper maths, and I dont think either of us wants to bother doing that lol. Gold 1 atm here, idk how bout u. Happily in here I dont get as much of those tank Fizz's or Ekko's. But still IBG+Sunfire reigns over toplane, and this sucks.
Sinyster Hughes I'm currently stuck in Silver 5 but when I get out I'll be jumping to gold. Just have to be able to get out of the hole of being put into any tier's 5 where those tier inhabitants give up hope because they feel like they're in elo hell instead of trying to get better to climb. I play adc primarily, but I do a lot of tank junglers, and "tanks" are utility as in Yi (split push), Ekko (good cc/sustain through mid-late game), or Fizz, or any actual tank I can go if my team has the damage.
Hes actually right about that build being op. But riot will change it and I did see someone go full tank draven in an aram and carry the game it was fked.
Tyler is right! That same thing is driving me away from league, its not fucking worth playing adc's vs tanks in the tank meta. Tanks that deal more damage than adc AHAH... Just a stupid game from RIOT... Soon i wont even bother playing league, il just move on to Overwatch.
They are supposed to. ADC's are utterly useless without a team. Seriously, even suspports can solo them in some cases. Here's the thisng. ADC's scale's incredibly well into late. They have higher dmg and good armor pene, especially in late. On top of their range, and their mobility. Perfectly suited for team fight. Tyler's signature solo draven play is the exact problem. He always charges like a moron and then he is surprised he is dying against Fed Fizz. OFC he will die. he doesn't play with team, with supports. He doesn't rely on constant dmg, he relies on crits and burst. Not a bad strategy, but beyond useless if he is even a bit behind. That's why most draven's don't build ghostblade anymore. That's it. And if their team builds arround armor, tyler is utterly fucked.The only thing you reveal about yourself by commenting that this notorious troll . Is that you are low elo newb who doesn't understand the game properly as of yet. Nothing to be ashamed of. But nothing to really talk about either.tldr: They countered him. He is mad.
i mean.. hes not wrong
+Daniel Puentes But Jhin didn't, Tyler surely is toxic af, but he's not wrong
+Daniel Puentes no items? he had a armor pen item dude. and neither did fizz
He is wrong, instead of blindly following the bullshit that comes out of a toxic players ass, you should analyze that fight
+afsdafsd kek Yes he is wrong. He is crying about Fizz killing him 1v1, when Fizz was 4/1 at that point and he was 1/1/1, Fizz was 10 level, while he was 8 and as for Tyler's items, they were all over the place, meanwhile Fizz had a complete Sunfire Cape, so yeah it is logical for Fizz to kill him 1v1. If someone doesn't understand that, they shouldn't be commenting on here.
+SuperNoob he aint talking about the fight...he is talking about the tank meta in league right now, and he is not wrong. Even pro's and high elo players called the tank meta boring and broken, picking a tank and then doing more dmg than ad building champions is fucked up and unfun. But hey, if you're having fun with it , great.
the calculator part killed me
actually something that I can agree with Tyler on. Tank meta just kills the game. Thank goodness Riot is finally nerfing guantlet even though I don't know if it will be enough.
+ZDninja iceborn is fine, sunfire is the problem
+Mister Puzzles grasp aswell
+ZDninja i mean we just got done with the carry top laner meta.
fhtyjuk dzfghj ppl will never be happy man its always a vicious circle, tank meta everyone will complain that they cant kill tanks , assassin meta everyone will complain that they get one shotted adc meta everyone will complain how good they scale.
+Mister Puzzles true
He has a point. When burst assassins are building full tank and carrying you know the game is broken.
you gotta remember that fizz is dps too when he gets 40cdr
Aged like fine wine. I still have nightmares about Sunfire Diana.
dorm room tyler was the best
Indeed
Dorm tyler>Trayler1>actual house tyler
1000%
I rather watch this guy instead of screaming people like gross gore
lol its prob u toxic asf too. Gross gore is way better than this bum.
+Nova Borealis so those pro's that are doing it as their job should be killed on sight?
Nova Borealis Lots of them aren't even cocky rofl... you just only hear about the oens that brag and who are cocky...
"instead of screaming people" yeah 1 year later thats all tyler does now.
Fuck.. you're cool aye!
6.14940851 × 10-21 m2 kg s-2 K-1
6.14940851x10^-21 m^2 kg s^-2 K^-1
Noxus Demacia i
That’s a lot of damage
best video ever, i keep rewatching it
same, nostalgic af
he has a point though
+William Lacy not really, look at fizz's score. Any top laner/mid laner can 1 v 1 a draven with that lead.
+GehPunkt When the adc is that bad at the game it is.
+William Lacy
Riot needs to fix these tanks, instead of taking a risk and fighting its now a long battle to see who can poke each other better.
+AFatStarFish What about the total damage for a full defensive fizz??
+Adam Orfield Tyler might be toxic be he certainly isn't bad, lol. I means he's diamond 1....
he needs to bring back that map cover
ITS ONLY GAME WHY U HAVE TO BE MAD
*hef
*Mat
ITS ONLY COMMENT WHY U HAVE TO MAKE ME SAD :-:
+TheZedMain hef
+TheZedMain but Stan, why are you so mad? Try to understand that I do want you as a fan
This guy looks like a grown up Sid from fucking Toy Story... but hes not wrong.
+Sir.Marsh ˙ ͜ʟ˙ Sid grew up to be a garbage collector. Tyler1 grew up to be garbage. Come on man... Don't insult Sid like that.
Why youtube is recommending me this just now?
Fucking died at 7:28
He is such a Whitney baby
lmfao whitney
+David Thuy WHIT-FKING-NEY LMAO JACKSFILMS HERE HE COMES
Alex Thesleff - Bad Karma
the sample goes as follows: "O na kar man rupaiye wala bar bar ke na rajje " ("Don't be proud of your money because it will never satisfy you.")
It's Punjabi language.
Nice ty for the insight
+Franjo Tušek Bullshit ! It says: Oh my cat in my little Beijing
chat said feel the mathematical rage i lost it omfg
I come back here every year or so just to remember
Fizz done twice and much damage, with tank items. He's actually right.
To champions, look at total damage dealth
why does this bronze comment section not realise that the fizz was three levels above him
@@xorpe7172 why do you not realize that he had more gold than fizz, levels were irrelevant at that point
Been a lot of talk about Tyler1 now ;o
Fizz had thornmail and wits end. Unlike Jhin, Fizz does have dps-- And also with his thornmail, he deals damage with the autos of his enemies. Fizz gained more damage in total over Jhin, since the damage was nearly constant
hes right on the tank meta part tho it sucks
wait what the fuck
I thought this "audio track muted" thing was removed like 4 years ago
rip video then I guess
Tyler1 is actually a super coold dude to watch, it gives us toxic people a home to go to.
fast forward 3 years later nothing has changed
The time when you could write "kys" on map, and not get banned cx
Good times
Dude the salt and sarcasm is just SHINING out of this. This is glorious.
algorithim has blessed me with old tyler
had to return to this classic
He wouldn't be so angry if he cut that mcdonalds out of his diet
oh damn back when tanks were actually tanks
This is why he got banned, not for being toxic, but for shocasing riots mistakes and calling them for it.
if u knew he was gonna build like that dominics, mortal reminder, black cleaver, frozen mallet, btrk lots of gewd choices.
The song "take it easy" in 4:30 was sooo accurate on that part ahahaha
hello in 2024
When he did the thing trying to calculator on google I had one heck of a laugh
3:20 MICKEY MOUSE IS THAT U
LOL WHEN THE SONG ''TAKE IT EAAASSYY'' I SWEAR TO GOD I CRACKED UP SO BADLY
4:18 Hahahah "Take it easy" Tyler :)
lelelelelel
XD
+fizz hehe xd
Fizz is the best champion in league of legends
If u have one less chromosome then yes.
+mackan919 0 chromosomes?
Tyler isn't toxic at all compared to the average league player..
I miss when you ACTUALLY had to build damage to deal fucking damage
The downvotesis just because he is toxic, when he is so fucking right this time. Riot fucked up with this tank meta and they need to fix this asap.
How comes he flames and everyone reports him, but his team flames him and NOBODY gives a shit?
+Jesus Mesina because tyler is legit toxic. he's verbally violent and completely abusive. the most anyone throws back at him is witty banter.. if you consider that toxic then your parents must've been the kind of people that took your gameboy away as punishment or lowered you allowance from 100$ a week to 90$
+michael giraldo you lol players are such pussies rofl
Be quiet kid, the adults are talking.
After quitting LoL (atleast in his stream) + Greek he seems to be a happier person.
First of all, sunfire cape does damage overtime. Adding to that, thornmail returns part of the damage taken so those two items already give out damage and fizz's base damage is already pretty high, adding to that the sheen procs
Also buddy boy(@tyler not uploader), if you're having trouble with a tank, lord dominiks does wonders with a duskblade, and some armor pen
this was a fckin era LMAOO
toxic as hell but hes not wrong LOL
+gay ha Well hes not flaming that much in chat tbh and mostly he flames when the enemys trigger him just cause he is tyler1, i think raging is ok as long as you dont spamm the chat which he didnt really if you ask me. And i understand why he raged. He is just saying what most of the people think about iceborn, sunfire and spirit visage.
Novaaa
yeah,compare to other video at least hes acting not that toxic.I agree what he says about the tanky items just because its stupid as fuck tho.
gay ha Yea it's really just bullshit xD
♻️
+gay ha Just shut up. Someone already made that comment a week ago.
Even though he's being really toxic, what he is saying is all true
8:55 man i loved that smile xD
Fizz is a "boosted broken fucking 80 fucking what the fuck?"
At first I was like
1:23
"Aaah, ok, so far so good, he doesn't flame. Ok, he isn't that ba..."
1:28
"GODDAMMIT!!!!"
If riot would ban all the flamers 50% of the players would get a ban
7:06-7:07 LOOK AT HIS EYES FOLLOWING HIS HEAD OMFG DO IT IN SLO MO
Hes Toxic af, but hes right.
"wtf is this boosted broken fucking ad fucking... wtf" i died
That Sona must have been a god. 0/5/30. Damn. No wonder the fizz got more kills.
i miss his league streams so hard
Guess what, he's back
I loved how the calculator came out to do a very simple piece of math
This was the game since Season 1 pretty sure Tyler wasn't here in the Meta Golem era LOL
"weeob"
N3ac3y built that on TF. It fucking worked.
+Nemolicious Barely.
Plobber (Grapes) but it did. Also I like Grapes.
+Nemolicious L
+Nemolicious N3ac3ys a fucking god
TheVikingRaid But still didn't make challenged.
That Jhin survive at 0:49 though XD
I almost die when I saw *THE Tyler writing mathematics skills in google*
. Good one Tyler :D
Been only playing ARAM for 2 years now waiting for the Meta to not be shitty again. #MakeLoLGreatAgain
funny how much he complains about it being a bad game, then makes 15 new accounts to avoid bans...
I love it when they squirm.
We were happy, and we didn't know it.
He is so mad all the time lika damn he is going to have a heart attack
Build a last whisper FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY DO PEOPLE FORGET THAT'S A THING. I rarely see ADCs take that item when there are even multiple tanks on the enemy team.
+Plobber (Grapes) 30% BONUS armor penetration isn't much when they build 100-200 armor. Plus a last whisper one of your first items is extremely inefficient
+gluckskecks It builds into 2 items that give 45% armor pen. And LW is cheap as an item just to buy without yet upgrading it. If you buy it, you will be able to do damage to tanks. Easy as that.
If you're having tank troubles, spend a measly 1300 and get 30% armor pen. At 100 armor, they have 50% damage reduction. At 70 with the armor pen, they only reduce 41% of your damage. YOUR DOING 18% MORE DAMAGE TO THEM.
Then late game when they have 200 armor, finish the LW build and you'll reduce their armor pretty much to 110. That 67% reduced damage to 52%. That's big. And this Fizz had 111 armor, not a measly 60.
+Plobber (Grapes) theb you have literally no damage output regardless so your argument is invalid...
+Gonzalo Colarte It's 15 less damage than a BF sword. It's not that much less damage. 1300 gold for the last whisper plus another couple hundred for a long sword is basically a better alternative than buying a BF sword. downside is, you get a minor delay with your item you would have built that BF sword into. And not by much, either.
+Plobber (Grapes) Can't edit for some reason. Anyways, bottom line is, he refused to build a 45% god damn armor pen item against a tank with 190 armor. Stacked with that Youmouu's he had, he could have been shredded Fizz quite a bit.
"your game is broken fix your game!" proceeds to keep playing
At least high players have problems with it too...I thought I was just being flat outplayed lol
here from stream. the good times
I want to range more after watching this
He is right...
Don't really like the guy, but hes right af at this one. As Valkrin said - if tank build is as effective on assassin as regular one, then something's really fucked up.
+Sinyster Hughes To be fair, you can easily fight against tank assassins while they minimize their damage if you maximize yours with some viability. Cowsep's been playing tank master yi for years before the tank meta came into place, and it's because Yi's E gives extra damage as well as a lot of attack speed and free resetting Alpha for dodging. Fizz gets it with his DoT and just the fact he can build Iceborn/Any form of Sheen and his Q applies an amplified version of it. Any two damage items makes the assassins worthy of being feared, then if they choose to become tankier, then that's when you take the chance you can to start shutting them down because you're able to kite them depending on champ. At least imo.
Galeronis Yi isnt a assassin(gameplay wise, not talking bout the category riot gave him), and building damage is more expensive atm then building tank, thats the point. So if assassins who are supposed to work with those big, expensive items are okay with those cheap tank items, then this is a problem, since they dont even have to try to snowball so hard as usual.
Kite Fizz? Show me this happen bro ;D
Sinyster Hughes Fizz doesn't have super low CDs on all skills, even with 40% cdr, and yi can be an assassin if you build him straight damage, gameplay wise as well as stated by Riot, though I've always just considered him an assassin through gameplay because even without full build, Highlander just gives him a massive damage increase while not being slow. Though it's nice to see multiple opinions, and not all assassin items are expensive. You could go the cheaper assassin route on a non-tanky team and be just as effective. But we may also be in two different mmrs, or you more casual or I could be. Just remember this is hypothetical and opinionated :)
Galeronis well ofc. Also note that theres frustration of this stupid meta flowing through me. To be really precise, we would have to do proper maths, and I dont think either of us wants to bother doing that lol. Gold 1 atm here, idk how bout u. Happily in here I dont get as much of those tank Fizz's or Ekko's. But still IBG+Sunfire reigns over toplane, and this sucks.
Sinyster Hughes I'm currently stuck in Silver 5 but when I get out I'll be jumping to gold. Just have to be able to get out of the hole of being put into any tier's 5 where those tier inhabitants give up hope because they feel like they're in elo hell instead of trying to get better to climb. I play adc primarily, but I do a lot of tank junglers, and "tanks" are utility as in Yi (split push), Ekko (good cc/sustain through mid-late game), or Fizz, or any actual tank I can go if my team has the damage.
gotta love tyler idc how toxic he is
tyler1 doesnt drink alcohol or coffe or coke but he eats from mcdonalds which probably has all of that in it + some animal shit
mcdonalds is far worse than what you described it as
that must be so hard to do 48.1-35.6 damn. where's the calculator mom !
This just confirms my theory that he hodge twins are secretly a man and wife who had a child that turned out to be a toxic league streamer.
Cancer vs Cancer.
Hehe
good old times hehe xd
actually ibg would be pretty good on draven, everytime u catch an axe u can press w and get a sheen proc with the slow.
I agree with tyler here, the tank meta this season is broken... i mean look at tank Ekko, that's illegal Rito
Even tho he is a rager, I agree with most of the things he says, and he honestly isn`t bad Draven player, so.
"we had no adc" at the end made me laugh xD
He has a fucking good point
i agree with him, gong full ad is not rewarding at all :/
6:45
For mwhen the video actually gets GUD
his Draven is really really good too
He didn't even build Lord Dominik's Regards...
well in early game he had dirk and armor pen runes and masteries
Downskirtfunk flat armor pen doesn't do shit against tanks
My first game as draven, I outplayed tyler1s playstyle massively, and i have a chat ban, wheres my 2k subscribers?
This is why he's a Draven one trick. He doesn't know how the damage dealt/damage taken works especially with high base damage champions like Fizz.
So? Fizz base damage is retarded. Either he and other assassins building those tank items need nerfs or the tank items their self. Maybe both.
Hes actually right about that build being op. But riot will change it and I did see someone go full tank draven in an aram and carry the game it was fked.
''tank meta'' one year later......
Fizz took more dmg because he was a tank, took him longer to die
Tyler is right! That same thing is driving me away from league, its not fucking worth playing adc's vs tanks in the tank meta. Tanks that deal more damage than adc AHAH... Just a stupid game from RIOT...
Soon i wont even bother playing league, il just move on to Overwatch.
They are supposed to. ADC's are utterly useless without a team. Seriously, even suspports can solo them in some cases. Here's the thisng. ADC's scale's incredibly well into late. They have higher dmg and good armor pene, especially in late. On top of their range, and their mobility. Perfectly suited for team fight. Tyler's signature solo draven play is the exact problem. He always charges like a moron and then he is surprised he is dying against Fed Fizz. OFC he will die. he doesn't play with team, with supports. He doesn't rely on constant dmg, he relies on crits and burst. Not a bad strategy, but beyond useless if he is even a bit behind. That's why most draven's don't build ghostblade anymore. That's it. And if their team builds arround armor, tyler is utterly fucked.The only thing you reveal about yourself by commenting that this notorious troll . Is that you are low elo newb who doesn't understand the game properly as of yet. Nothing to be ashamed of. But nothing to really talk about either.tldr: They countered him. He is mad.
+Gladix Yeah our problem is not how adc is killed easily our problem is that tanks can do MORE DAMAGE THEN ADCS. like what the actual fuck?
+Gladix Tank is a tank, not a fucking dmg dealer, thats why Ekko, Fizz and Iceborn got nerfed, he was fucking right.
***** They werent tanks. They were assasins. People just started playing them like tanks. Thats why they got nerfed
Gladix They were nerfed because were op as fuck, not because playing other role.
7:32 this guy trolled himself
the passiveagressive hehe xD is the worst
wait, armor counters ad?? who would have thought...
what if is the tank meta that makes tyler1 mad