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  • On paper, the 362bhp Audi RS3 has got the 297bhp Volkswagen Golf R trumped. But on track, can the underdog Golf reign supreme?
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  • @DasHalbblut
    @DasHalbblut 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    No matter what's the others say: I think Dan did a excellent review! I genuinely enjoyed it!

  • @dzejmiej
    @dzejmiej 8 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    rs3 sounds better

    • @xyz-sh8xx
      @xyz-sh8xx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      .......and that's it.

    • @harvardford8752
      @harvardford8752 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      but its the same chassis.
      its basically the same car apart from the extrerior and interior bits

    • @ryanl3106
      @ryanl3106 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      and more expensive.

    • @xyz-sh8xx
      @xyz-sh8xx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Harvard Ford It's not mate - the standard suspension is completely different and the Golf doesn't understeer like the RS 3 does.

    • @galaxyunicorngamerplaysrob7333
      @galaxyunicorngamerplaysrob7333 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jakub Marcinko o

  • @ghostinthemachine76
    @ghostinthemachine76 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The Golf quicker round the track than the RS3. Who'd have thought that?
    Amazing result. Golf R it is then and save £10K.
    Great video.

  • @terrencelabroix5272
    @terrencelabroix5272 8 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I think a Golf R with the 5-cylinder motor would be an amazing package. A "Golf RS"

    • @makina2022
      @makina2022 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      They didnt do that because they knew it would piss the competition off.

    • @AceEyedAce
      @AceEyedAce 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Golf R400 is apparently in the works...

    • @ihavenousername1805
      @ihavenousername1805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They won't do it because that would just make the rs3 even more redundant than it is now.

    • @STR1XDLB
      @STR1XDLB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ihavenousername1805 fking audi stops golfs from being a true a45s competitor

    • @brightenupcc
      @brightenupcc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Putting the 5 cyl in the Golf would give it the same nose heavy problem of the RS3 as they sit on the same chassis. Dumb suggestion.

  • @armando_alves
    @armando_alves 9 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    Why not RS3 vs A45 AMG ?

    • @anotherone10
      @anotherone10 9 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Armando Alves This video was a great comparison, but I agree, the RS3 vs A45 AMG would be a great battle especially considering that the A45 AMG now has 381hp!

    • @thebossisheretostay
      @thebossisheretostay 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Armando Alves I think this was more about two cars built off the same platform in their hottest form, a rivalry within one company. with different configurations, and like he said at the start, the golf R being quite highly praised they were seeing if it could punch above its weight. And at the end of the day, the less powerful, cheaper golf was faster and more enjoyable so it was a worth while test because it wasnt obvious who the winner would be. doing the RS3 vs A45 is more obvious but also slightly different

    • @paulv5283
      @paulv5283 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Admiral Ackbar The A45 is still arival though for performance so should be compared and the price is right for the Audi comparison.

    • @thebossisheretostay
      @thebossisheretostay 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah it would be great to see the more evenly matched and revamped A45 up against both to be honest

    • @brandongray9724
      @brandongray9724 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Armando Alves Haven't there been enough reviews of the S3 already beating the A45? No need to embarrass that ugly thing.

  • @calvin9999999999
    @calvin9999999999 8 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    It would have been fairer to compare the Golf R to the S3, not the RS3, considering the Golf R is basically an S3 with a different body.

    • @critical
      @critical 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and the TTS

    • @calvin9999999999
      @calvin9999999999 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Critical Well, not really. Engine yes, chassis and bodywork, no.

    • @SofaKingTouge
      @SofaKingTouge 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a fair comparrision. Very similar although I don't think audi tts and golf r buyers are the same. One you can use every day. One you can't. Me I'm waiting for the TT RS. And to be honest if I can afford in it a few year a R8.

    • @critical
      @critical 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OutlawUniverse I use my TTS everyday lol

    • @calvin9999999999
      @calvin9999999999 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      OutlawUniverse That's why I said the comparison wasn't, well, that comparable. You can use any car everyday. Our everyday car is an M5.

  • @c3rtv239
    @c3rtv239 9 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Is it me or does everyone and their dad drive a Golf R? There are so many on the roads compared to the mk6 R and mk5 R32 when they were released.

    • @LiamTeeVee
      @LiamTeeVee 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      HaliGtv The PCP and Lease Deals are strong with the MK7 R.. They're almost as common as Corsa's

    • @MosesRides
      @MosesRides 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good daily driver

    • @AllroundSwizzy
      @AllroundSwizzy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      HaliGtv got a good old 4th gen R32 :)

    • @HeretiCflow
      @HeretiCflow 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Freeski Swizzy really cool car!

    • @GaryDoctor1
      @GaryDoctor1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      So cheap on contract hire now. 200-300 a month that's why.

  • @pingwong117
    @pingwong117 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "And the 4WD system that can send 100% of it's torque to the rear axle.
    I don't know when it does that,perhaps when you're parking or something..."
    Epic line of review. You can feel the frustration :D
    Good job EVO (Y)

  • @dr-gb3tq
    @dr-gb3tq 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Perfect side to side view comparison at the end. Genius!

  • @TomRopez
    @TomRopez 9 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Is the Golf R not pretty much the same car as the S3? Why not include the S3 in this

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 9 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Because it is just a based video to makes rs3 looks shit. Next time Polo vs new R8 plus and Polo will win...

    • @TomRopez
      @TomRopez 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      TheEryk03 I think EVO are getting worse. In one sentence this guy said you can feel the rear axel on the Golf R starting to play, then 30 seconds later said the exact opposite. That Golf is impressive but how can the brakes in the RS3 get hotter and still lose. More generic journo guff.

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tom Peary I agree. This guy does not know what he's talking about.

    • @TheBigboySid
      @TheBigboySid 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tom Peary he mentioned why not the S3 in this video, its because the Golf R will simply destroy the S3, so he let the RS3 do the job in hoping the Audi will stand a chance to prove its better.

    • @TomRopez
      @TomRopez 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sid Acidic destroy how's that? Its the same car. Chassis power train everything as far as I know.

  • @allosaurusfragilis7782
    @allosaurusfragilis7782 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    For everyday road use, i think the audi has it for me for its looks, sound and cabin.

    • @andresmiguel2573
      @andresmiguel2573 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plus it would smash the Golf R in straight line!

    • @allosaurusfragilis7782
      @allosaurusfragilis7782 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Andrew Miscevich it might well. I recently took my wifes r32 for a fairly long drive. Was looking forward to some exciting driving. However, i found that during the whole day there was only about two times i could actually get the foot down and then only briefly. The roads were too busy. Makes you wonder if you need a fast car!

    • @winzfeld1
      @winzfeld1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Allosaurus Fragilis where were you driving? What time of day? I have full throttle opportunities very frequently and I have 420bhp s3

    • @allosaurusfragilis7782
      @allosaurusfragilis7782 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +winzfeld1 actually, where i live in scotland we have hundreds of miles of near empty roads and lots of opportunities to enjoy them. That day i was heading for the city and the traffic was terrible, so it was a bit of a bore.

    • @allosaurusfragilis7782
      @allosaurusfragilis7782 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +James Bond how would i beat james bond?

  • @hamoudalzayed2901
    @hamoudalzayed2901 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    golf r is one of the best overall cars ..

  • @a18ttc
    @a18ttc 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A very good review. Exactly my experience when I test drove these 2 cars.

  • @SirSchmittyX
    @SirSchmittyX 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice work Evo.

  • @RussellRobinson77
    @RussellRobinson77 9 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    I'd still like the audi over the vw. 5Cyls sound amazing plus audi interiors are beautiful.

    • @mrkruger5108
      @mrkruger5108 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Russell Robinson And in a straight line the Audi will destroy the Golf.

    • @C4Lust
      @C4Lust 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Russell Robinson
      The RS3 is just entirely better in every way. They both start from a similar point (MQB-based Golf) but the RS3 gets that 2.5T gem, better AWD, better transmission, better brakes, better suspension, and yes, the better/higher quality interior.

    • @PilotSuperSport
      @PilotSuperSport 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      C4Lust It's the same AWD (Haldex 5), maybe a different set up but same AWD

    • @okay_chr1s
      @okay_chr1s 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pilot SuperSport It's probably the same awd system, just a different tune or software managing it.

    • @PilotSuperSport
      @PilotSuperSport 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris hauser I know

  • @fjs2456
    @fjs2456 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice review, especially the track session

  • @rafazinn
    @rafazinn 9 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The wheels of Golf R are simply amazing!

  • @uhugvjkbkjh
    @uhugvjkbkjh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    It's almost as if the reviewer wanted the Golf to win. As a road car the Audi is a brilliant and comfy road rocket, great engine etc I'd def choose it over the Golf

    • @renzeewhite5132
      @renzeewhite5132 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      me too Audi is a lot better than vw

    • @SonOfAbba
      @SonOfAbba 8 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      So you would choose to spend more than $12k USD more for a car that doesn't match up at the track? You can literally put less than $1.5k of mods into the golf R and it will blow the RS3 away in a straight line.... APR stage 1 tune for golf R is an extra 80 HP for only $800.
      You'd still have $11k left over in savings with the Golf R... you're paying $12k more for an Audi badge... lol

    • @Great_America
      @Great_America 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Renzee White Audi should be better for $10K more, duh!

    • @Schlock3000
      @Schlock3000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And you still have a crappy sounding 4 Cylinder engine in the Golf. And considering you yourself wouldn't be able to get both of these cars quick around a race track, why does it matter? And frankly, why does track performance matter at all? Maybe one in a thousand people is going to the track with his or hers 50.000+ Euros car.

    • @bfyrth
      @bfyrth 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Daniel Riner Yeh but you don't have a class car just a chav car

  • @kevinoshaughnessy5859
    @kevinoshaughnessy5859 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome review Dan well done

  • @nathanlangford3113
    @nathanlangford3113 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woot! As a U.S. 2017 Golf R owner, this video fills me with joy :)

  • @HMHacki
    @HMHacki 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love the lap thing with the still frames!

  • @SPWGAMING550
    @SPWGAMING550 9 ปีที่แล้ว +303

    The Audi is too expensive for a Hatchback. Would save my money and get the Golf R.

    • @tbrowniscool
      @tbrowniscool 9 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeah me too that extra 10 grand is insurance and fuel!

    • @GaryDoctor1
      @GaryDoctor1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Remap 370-400 bhp for nothing. Great value.

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ***** r400 will be very limited and costs much more than rs3...

    • @Dgannt
      @Dgannt 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ***** Why not wait and buy the up coming BMW M2? That way you have a much better drivers car and are fast in both straight lines AND curves and also enjoy your everyday driving. And it will probably be cheaper than RS3.

    • @ACEMEDIA
      @ACEMEDIA 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GaryDoctor1 EXACTLY! With the extra $10k in your pocket you could easily build a better G7R that will smash the RS3, but then again, that i5 in that RS3 is as amazing as the Volvo i5s.

  • @pg-jq3jc
    @pg-jq3jc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this was a great review props!

  • @joshualuzuriaga8710
    @joshualuzuriaga8710 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review mate!

  • @simonmayer5083
    @simonmayer5083 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    golf r in that colour is just gorgeous

  • @u3962521
    @u3962521 6 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Golf R eats RS3 value for money, and performance all round. Throw on a stage 1 or 2 from apr, still a lot cheaper than the rs3. Golf R is the benchmark hot hatch, period.

    • @RossMKF1
      @RossMKF1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      u3962521 then you could just give a tune for the rs3 to be even faster

    • @mikecustoms
      @mikecustoms 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      u3962521 there's a Golf mark 2 that destroys a Chiron in straight line, this argument is stupid and I thought the point of the Golf wasn't to be faster but more balanced for the money so why would you want to compromise that just to get on par with the Audi?

    • @AR-fw5bn
      @AR-fw5bn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RossMKF1 no that will void the warranty and audi repairs are shit expensive. Vw has an oettinger division that preserves the warranty

    • @MrZyLeXx
      @MrZyLeXx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A tuned rs3 would murder a stage 2/3 golf r.

  • @albanoDitLeParrain
    @albanoDitLeParrain 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great battle...i was not expecting this outcome

  • @SrchangwaytogoC
    @SrchangwaytogoC 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, incredible result! Great review ;)

  • @guyporteztki
    @guyporteztki 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    its clear that he prefer the golf r than the rs3, I think he is even advertising them...

    • @IvanBosnjak89
      @IvanBosnjak89 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Same parent company. There is no reason to advertise this over that.

    • @cookiewriter4001
      @cookiewriter4001 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Audi has a flawless Image, VW doesnt :D they need this

  • @HarizHafiGarden
    @HarizHafiGarden 9 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    To my eyes the interior of the Audi is nicer just my opinion however

    • @saucybackport
      @saucybackport 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hariz Hafi you get your luxury from audi for sure - this review tried to find a punching bag and it did by demanding performance from a luxury car

    • @the7Ced
      @the7Ced 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Hariz Hafi That's the major part they didn't account for, in my opinion. Audi doesn't just put on a nice badge and add a couple of horsepower. The interior is much nicer and there's a lot of convenience/luxury/options that simply aren't available for the Golf. Whether you're willing to pay for it surely is another story, but just boiling it down to which is faster on track is a little bit unfair.

    • @kernoleary1394
      @kernoleary1394 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Hariz Hafi lol that isnt opinion its truth. who would want vw interior over audi ?

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@saucybackport
      Labelling the RS3 a luxury car is hilarious. It may feel nicer inside, but it’s by no means a luxury car.

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@the7Ced
      They didn’t account for it because the video was literally based on its performance. It’s like me saying the Focus RS is better than the Golf R on track, and saying it’s unfair to the Golf R that I didn’t touch on its superior interior quality. What does that have to do with the video at hand?
      The excuses you Audi fanboys are making for the RS3 are so laughable. It lost. Simple as. Many people have said the 7R was a better car than the 8V RS3.

  • @LowBlow
    @LowBlow 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    just goes to show the difference between the perception of professional reviewers like this gentleman and an average driver like myself. I test drove a 2016 RS3 today and I was absolutely gobsmacked. Unbelievable car.

  • @gamccoy
    @gamccoy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video Well done.

  • @k13bkr
    @k13bkr 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    audi fan boys were buzzing to watch this video until 5mins 7 seconds and 5mins 27seconds lol

  • @vivalaphill
    @vivalaphill 9 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    The RS3 doesn´t feel faster in a straight line? It is a second faster to 100Km/h. It uses the same chassis with wider front tires 255mm compared to 235mm rear rubber to make the car more balanced. 30 Kg more weight ^^ forget about those 2% of weight disadvantage. And about the Audi S(port)3 it shouldn´t be as sharp as a Golf R(ace) obviously....Audi bashing at its finest. And for everyone thinking I´m an Audi fanboy, although I like audi I do understand facts. havning driven both An Audi S3 and a Golf R apart from the softer suspension in the S3 they can´t hide their relation in the way they drive.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      vivalaphill It's the same company! ;) Audi fanboy vs VW fanboy? That simply doesn't make sense...

    • @vivalaphill
      @vivalaphill 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      TassieLorenzo it seems like EVO doesn´t like audis.

    • @juanmj93
      @juanmj93 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      vivalaphill I don't think that the Audi is a full second faster to 100km/h, both the Golf R and the Audi S3 (with the DSG/ S-Tronic) are doing it in about 4.5 or even 4.4 seconds stock, despite the claimed times by the manufacturers. Audi claims that the RS3 does it in 4.3, it probable can do it in 4.1 seconds, it is indeed faster by a significative margin, but not 1 second.

    • @UZYYYY
      @UZYYYY 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      vivalaphill One reason, the 5 cylinder peach, amazing sounding engine with huge tuning capability already proven in the MK1 Rs3 and ttrs. Golf r sounds like a frog farting in comparison.

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      TassieLorenzo that's why this guy say that both are shit but golf little better. Poor review as always from this guy. Autoexpress also is based but not for one brand. For example Honda beat m3, that's of course non sense.

  • @P1r4t3Qu33n
    @P1r4t3Qu33n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    golf r every time for an everyday car. it just hits the sweet spot and feels balanced in all ways. I have looked at 'upgrading' but haven't seen anything that ticks all the boxes like the R

  • @MrRacs1
    @MrRacs1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! 😄

  • @abodijamboOo
    @abodijamboOo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    not much acceleration in the Audi? how come? bro are you driving in the Dynamic mode or the comfy?

    • @b777300er
      @b777300er 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bad driver end of story

    • @dzejmiej
      @dzejmiej 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dhme Janbi economy

    • @1kiwigary
      @1kiwigary 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't change engine performance in either setting.

    • @jacobwaltonpb5932
      @jacobwaltonpb5932 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does change throttle response

  • @marshallpitney3844
    @marshallpitney3844 8 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    This is such a one sided video.

    • @STKS1991
      @STKS1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did it hurt your feelings?

  • @mangewide
    @mangewide 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Review!

  • @SheilsGary
    @SheilsGary 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very good review and commentary well done. Just bought a Golf R

  • @gtrsfk9001
    @gtrsfk9001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You're talking about fractions of a second on a track...so basically in the real world where everyone are traffic light racers the RS3 is gonna tear some arse

  • @minjaijung
    @minjaijung 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Once I'll be old enough, Im'ma buy the GTI, R, and the RS3 in that order. GTI is my dream car though. And I know it has less hp and it's FWD, but it's more iconic. And most importantly, I'm a VW fan.

  • @paulylah
    @paulylah 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your review mate. Nice and clean no obnoxious bullshit. Just information clearly delivered. Love it.

  • @lambosuperl
    @lambosuperl 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review!

  • @GrumpyFink
    @GrumpyFink 9 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    OK, watching that review back a second time, it couldn't be more obvious that they wanted the Golf to come out on top before they even started (wouldn't be surprise if he owned a Golf R) the review. I bet he drove the Golf to win the lap time test.

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's obviously. Everyone who know the cars will know that this review is bullshit.

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Martin Allen I dont care about opinions people hwo no nothing about cars.

    • @Remenschneider
      @Remenschneider 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Martin Allen well I don't know what you were expecting ;)

    • @miagi1337
      @miagi1337 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      GrumpyFink GrumpyAudiFanboy

    • @GrumpyFink
      @GrumpyFink 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      a.k.a. miagi You didn't see my other comment about not wanting ether then? - Dumbass!

  • @akf2000
    @akf2000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice honest review, RS3 for me!

  • @barrymorkan2383
    @barrymorkan2383 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many thanks for that video. I have a Golf R and was going to buy an RS3 but you've given me something to think about... Hmmm

  • @Tailpipe26
    @Tailpipe26 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review, Dan. Thank you. Looking forward to seeing how the face lifted Mercedes AMG compares to both RS3 and Golf R. Then, of course, there is the forthcoming Volkswagen R400.

  • @michaelgoodwin593
    @michaelgoodwin593 9 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    If you want rear axle instability then go drive a Focus ST.

    • @brandonbateson2283
      @brandonbateson2283 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ***** You mean if you want torque steer in the first 3 gears go drive a Focus ST.

    • @michaelgoodwin593
      @michaelgoodwin593 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ***** Adds to the fun - you obviously know the car well, so you'll know turning esp off removes most of the problem.

    • @juliaday1131
      @juliaday1131 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** get revo knuckle installed and that'll cure most of it.

    • @kaiwenli3432
      @kaiwenli3432 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Michael Goodwin You mean Focus RS? :P

    • @michaelgoodwin593
      @michaelgoodwin593 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kevin Li Well that's got that silly drift button hasn't it. No doubt with it being a similar chassis to the ST itll also be geared up to jave a twitch back end! Bit lame if you ask me. Still I bet its a great car.

  • @triniflyer8685
    @triniflyer8685 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    can we see a RS3 vs A45amg??

  • @spinnetti
    @spinnetti 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very useful review.

  • @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
    @jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent review. really gets into the driving and feel of the cars

  • @mexistratman1
    @mexistratman1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Hmmm.. Sorry Evo, I don't buy it.

  • @gureno19
    @gureno19 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "The golf R batters the S3"
    Erm...wut? The Golf R and the S3 are exactly the same mate....same platform, same engine, same box...everything...minus the obvious body panels and interior.

    • @barsaf9989
      @barsaf9989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carwow does a good comparison with the s3 vs golf r.

    • @crankchamber9993
      @crankchamber9993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wrong

    • @gureno19
      @gureno19 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crankchamber9993 care to elaborate?

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not necessarily. They may have the same underpinnings but it doesn’t mean they have the same modes or setup. The Golf R is a better car dynamically. Many have said this.

  • @MarcraM82
    @MarcraM82 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good review guys. I wish you guys could review the 6 speed manual version of the R. The bigger 2.5 litre engine does hold the RS3 back quite a bit - tends to understeer too much.

  • @WhatUSeekisSeekingYou
    @WhatUSeekisSeekingYou 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the conclusion of the vid aside, fantastic review. Well done Dan -- especially if you wrote the script yourself. :-) Great transitions and flow. Mostly, auto reviewers make cliche statements and fail to disclose the 'why' in detail. Great, nerdy detail of the strengths and weaknesses of both cars in terms of *driving dynamics*. I'm very critical about automotive reviews. I cannot say enough good things about this one. Short, simple, to-the-point, and even the video editing of the hot lap comparison was done right. A+
    It's sad to see the comments below. These are the people that, unfortunately, force manufacturers to make decisions that produce more A-to-B vehicles, not drivers' cars. Some people below don't understand that if two cars share the same platform or have the 'same' haldex awd system, it doesn't mean they should handle the same at the track. Suspension tuning & chassis setup is where engineers have to make the most noticeable, thus the most critical compromises. And these two things are clearly not the same on both cars. I love Audi but do not like its pigheadedness. If only Audi had the same head while designing all of its cars as it did with the B7 RS4, current RS6 and the R8.

  • @1sammyi
    @1sammyi 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    rs3 fan boys incoming

  • @ejicon
    @ejicon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great review. I was torn between purchasing the Golf R or the Audi S3 Sedan. Decided to go with a Subaru WRX instead :)

  • @PilotSuperSport
    @PilotSuperSport 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The RS3 isn't made for tracks or twisty roads, it's just a quick, practical, everyday driver. And there is nothing wrong with that :)

  • @orentrace9216
    @orentrace9216 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In those last shots of the Golf R taking corners, it looked like the rear axle was definitely rotating the car nicely out of the apex.

  • @ACDC1998Zippo
    @ACDC1998Zippo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I prefer the the Bmw M135i with x drive.
    Why? The BMW puts a bigger smile on my face and you can´t put a price tag on that

    • @Raditram
      @Raditram 9 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Naah mate that X-drive would ruin it. I'd get it without the X-drive, much much better :D it's a BMW, it has to be rwd.

    • @johanbenade8885
      @johanbenade8885 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ACDC1998Zippo
      Agreed. I bought the new 135i (rear wheel drive) and i dont regret it one bit.

    • @willywillywillywillywilly
      @willywillywillywillywilly 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As everybody else is saying, the x-drive system is not a performance AWD system like, say, something you'd get in a Porsche (not that I'm saying to go for an AWD Porsche over a RWD one). The RWD BMWs are the performance versions and the AWD ones are just for added safety in inclement weather, not for added high-performance grip.

    • @johanbenade8885
      @johanbenade8885 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Willy Lamb-Orgel True. Probably depends on your country. The AWD version isn't even offered here in SA...

    • @ACDC1998Zippo
      @ACDC1998Zippo 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats unfortunate...
      cause I think the fun factor is the best in the bmw.
      for me, i think that what the car does to you and how you feel while driving it is the most important. not the performance or the price.

  • @9Atika
    @9Atika 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This should not be tested by an amateur driver..😂😂

    • @lwandovuso6954
      @lwandovuso6954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      True😂😂😂😂

    • @numbereightyseven
      @numbereightyseven 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why not. Most buyers are amateur drivers. How it drives on a track is useless info to me. Interesting, but useless.

  • @topdrivebrasil
    @topdrivebrasil 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excelent Review! Totally agree with the points stated.

  • @MrResiman
    @MrResiman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely love driving my 10 year old R32 with sport Haldex controller on the road with the usual restrictions but corners are good and roundabouts can be fun !

  • @aaronclausen654
    @aaronclausen654 8 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    "Golf's gearbox is just fractionally quicker" rubbish.

    • @Leefryyinc
      @Leefryyinc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Actually....... I've tuned the rs3 dsg and Golf R dsg and Rs3 shifting points are slightly more reserved due to torque and hp so what old mate is saying in the video could be correct.

  • @martinallenuk
    @martinallenuk 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great sound...just a shame that 5 cylinder engine is away out front.

  • @wallacebester4156
    @wallacebester4156 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Proper Review!

  • @Oulel77
    @Oulel77 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job Evo.

  • @salessiteboost7665
    @salessiteboost7665 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "..these aren't track cars, but lets test them on a racetrack anyway..." worst review ever...
    The RS3 has a smooth and silky engine, strong DQ500 gearbox and lovely interior. Plus an aggressive Haldex AWD that reacts much quicker under acceleration than the S3 or Golf R. So that's where extra $$ goes!!

    • @STKS1991
      @STKS1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet it still went round the track slower

    • @g18cnr77
      @g18cnr77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      STKS you special mate?

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@STKS1991
      Literally. And that’s what they’re really hurt about.

  • @JacK-yr8ri
    @JacK-yr8ri 9 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    you are just paying for the audi badge. I actually think a two door golf r is better looking than an audi rs3 as it only comes in 4 door.

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sure... And 2.0 tsi is better than 2.5 tfsi? Yeah sure you paying just for the badge...

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lloyd dixon i know. This is the real results Golf R vs Rs3 and forgot this shitty review.
      Sachsenring- Golf R-1:41.73 RS3-1:40.13

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      BileMonkey rs3 have bigger engine and still better weight distribution.

    • @TheEryk03
      @TheEryk03 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      If RS3 have better weight distribution then it is lighter at front axle. Simply as that. Rs3 weights something like 30 kg more.

    • @benbennit
      @benbennit 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jack Naylor Audi's reputation is laughable. Shocking cars, unreliable and no personality.

  • @senorfrog5605
    @senorfrog5605 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this vid. i never even thought of comparing my mk7 to an rs3.... but i knew itd smoke an s3. i love seeing people on the highway with their low end "luxury sports sedans", and then seeing them disappear into my rearview.

  • @HawK4all
    @HawK4all 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just FYI !
    The Haldes AWD System is IDENTICAL on BOTH of these vehicles ! (including S3)

  • @dschonsie
    @dschonsie 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    the gti clubsport will be enough fun on the track

    • @eaglemihnea
      @eaglemihnea 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dschonsie it might be faster too. auto express says the Leon cupra is faster than the R

    • @HotHatchTV
      @HotHatchTV 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mihnea Radu In the dry yes... in the wet, I don't think so ;)

    • @tredfxman
      @tredfxman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! So Welcome Subscribers to my GTI Clubsport Channel by clicking here !!! ;)

    • @tredfxman
      @tredfxman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mihnea Radu Listen to this!! First the Clubsport S took the World Record at Nurbergring with a Laptime of 7:46.. Then the Normal Clubsport you see at my channel did it on 7:42... (Yes iknow most credits goes to the skilled driver of course!! :)

    • @tredfxman
      @tredfxman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HotHatchTV Off course not, since Golf R is 4WD. R is faster & safer on a straight line. But Clubsport's are faster on curves/tracks. The 4WD adds some weight & the Clubsport is aboutnpeeling of about as much weight as possible. It becomes extremely clear on the S model, where they removed the backseats for weight saving.. But imso happy i went with the normal Clubsport oz i choosed full leather seats & would felt like iv been robbed if i payed for something which dont exists.. Also the Clubsport S is just 20 hp faster, but know in reality it makes for way more. The must be a reason for price differance. I payed only the same as a normal GTI for the Clubsport hee in Sweden. Topped it of with around 6300 usd in extras... Check it on my channel if you wish! :)

  • @AresWasTaken
    @AresWasTaken 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Summary of almost all recent journalists review of hot hatches: blah blah blah, this car is ok, blah blah blah, but the golf is better, blah blah blah.

    • @TomRopez
      @TomRopez 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Son_0f_Ares #genericbabble so many channels the same other than Drive/Smoking Tyre and Chris Harris. And one guy from Auto Car who is good, (the Brummy dude.) I can't believe they get paid to spout the same guff.

    • @AstroFantastica
      @AstroFantastica 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tom Peary Chris Harris and Matt Farrah also loved the Golf R, in fact Matt was about to buy a Focus RS until he drove the Golf R.

    • @ODIOPOWER
      @ODIOPOWER 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      AstroFantastica yeah Chris Harris said Golf R are mind blowing perfomance in many occasion on his channel. And i trust that guy

    • @Dgannt
      @Dgannt 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Son_0f_Ares In 2 different reviews Golf R lost to Seat Cupra both times, so not all test drivers think Golf R is better.

    • @AstroFantastica
      @AstroFantastica 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bezor Ta That was the Autocar review. The same driver also said the Civic Type R is faster than a BMW M3 and Audi RS3... Points me to think the driver doesn't know how to drive RWD/AWD.

  • @Chipstix24
    @Chipstix24 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. As an appendix I would love to see times and thoughts on the APR Tuning Golf R.....

  • @neilmcguinness4422
    @neilmcguinness4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and a fascinating outcome. I think though that the main component in whichever car is faster is being overlooked somewhat. The driver. A skilled and committed driver makes whatever car he or she is in the fastest from A to B on a typical British road should a race situation develop. Especially in two closely matched hot hatches. 👍

  • @maveric0738
    @maveric0738 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait. You said that the Golf R doesn't come alive like the Seat Lean cupra R does because it's a FWD car?? I don't know about you but I'll take a AWD car any day all day over a FWD Car!!

  • @day3002
    @day3002 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Video all about Golf R from start. But which is better for everyday driving. No one cares about track cars.
    Clearly guy wants all cars to slide ..his main issue with both cars. Get a bmw. Safer and more steady car is better then one that slides whenever you go fast and turn corners. 9/10 people will never race it on track.

  • @streetmtb
    @streetmtb 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    m235, A45, Golf R and RS3 shootout now that would be good to watch!

  • @jameslucey2428
    @jameslucey2428 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is merely not about braking fluid, the issue is the chassis, which is not allowing speed to be carried through the corners. So to correct this issue, heavier braking is applied.

  • @anpr1984
    @anpr1984 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    These motoring journalists spout some absolute nonsense. Who gives a crap about how a car performs on track. Surely it's about everyday driving ability on the road.

    • @numbereightyseven
      @numbereightyseven 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Andrew you can't push cars like these to their limits on b roads, without being a dangerous anti-social arshole. Always being able to stop within the distance you can see in front of you, isn't possible when the real world is adjacent to the road.

  • @MarphyW
    @MarphyW 9 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This guy should really stick to BMW reviews. Obvious Audi hater.

  • @embee.Stencil.Artist
    @embee.Stencil.Artist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With alloy control arms and a decent rear sway bar, the RS3 improves significantly in terms of handling. I have owned both and they are a lot of fun but with the RS3 moving back to 4cyl in its next form, I will probably be going back to a Golf R

  • @ZorK0717
    @ZorK0717 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have driven both of them and everyone who thinks that the audi isnt as enjoyable as the golf r is just wrong.... I dont know but this driver isnt the right person to review it. If you just see the video from autocar with the stuntdriver at the wheel, then you can imagine that the rs3 will make fun.

  • @zachhandler9432
    @zachhandler9432 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    why do the golf seats look like they're from 2004

    • @effortlessGFX
      @effortlessGFX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      to pay homage to Golf's of the past.

  • @blazed6644
    @blazed6644 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    eye-opening how all the little audi fans that just care about the brand and the badge are complaining in the comments here!! stop whining, your car lost in terms of performance, it's as simple as that

  • @John_cupra290
    @John_cupra290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to see the facelift 5f cupra 290 dsg7 against the 2020 golf r on track. Please make that happen to show the difference of the fwd cupra against the 4motion golf.would love to see how much the 290 beats the R by. Awesome review btw👏👍

  • @MrCdnAudiophile
    @MrCdnAudiophile 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    APR Stage 2 on the Golf with the new DSG Upgrade as well makes it a beast.

  • @mooketsi1
    @mooketsi1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    just say you are more of a golf fan...

    • @MrSisupack
      @MrSisupack 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yeah !!

  • @mvoutour
    @mvoutour 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm sure they are both really nice cars but I don't get it. For the money, if a person wants something faster / sportier, there are so many other options out there. These cars are like those SUV's that try to be sporty. Just winds up being more expensive than it should be.

    • @death2halo236
      @death2halo236 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's about time someone said this. I personally would never consider buying any hatchback.

    • @bobhope4288
      @bobhope4288 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rodolfo Burciaga Hatchbacks are not the problem, hatchbacks are the main reason people buy these cars. Hatchbacks both hold more stuff and have better visibility.
      The problem is FWD. (or in the R and RS3, FWD biased AWD)

    • @sn0fx
      @sn0fx 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bob Hope he had traction control on

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So, 4 and a half years later, it turns out that the winner was actually the BMW M140i. It costs the same as the golf, but has the performance of the RS3. Plus it's more fun than both of them put together.

    • @davecom3
      @davecom3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And it's a 6 cylinder, has a better engine, faster, sounds better, rear wheel drive, built by someone who knows how to develop a chassis and... is also lighter than both of these cars.

    • @DjNikGnashers
      @DjNikGnashers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davecom3 Amen !
      Love mine, running 455bhp it embarrasses most things costing 50 grand more 🤪

  • @sizweziqu
    @sizweziqu 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bashing out RS3, this guy
    great review pal

  • @obehave1970
    @obehave1970 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Goodness gracious... he's soooo negative... These two cars are amazing.
    I'd be soooooo happy with either car!

    • @tmass1
      @tmass1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      both are kind of bad in my opinion. look at the bmw m240i

  • @911naimplate
    @911naimplate 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love my 2016 Golf R!!!! It does everything right. It has no where as good a soundtrack however as my 2004 R32 did. Nothing like the sound of that VR6. It does handle far better however and transitions very very well through the turns.

    • @kingchooet9966
      @kingchooet9966 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      why did you sell your r32? you could of have just tuned it.

    • @911naimplate
      @911naimplate 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely different cars. The Golf R will have the R32 for lunch on a back road with lots of sweepers. The R32 however fully worked will have the Golf R for lunch on wide open roads. Completely different animals. Where I live, back roads rule more than open highways. With all that said, I miss the R32. Of all my cars, it was my favorite!!!!!

  • @jonreeves7377
    @jonreeves7377 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok we get it, you like the golf. You could drive an R8 and your review would be no different.

  • @xyz-sh8xx
    @xyz-sh8xx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you can't feel the Golf R transferring the power to the rear then you're not driving it hard enough. After years of having front wheel drive cars, I can feel my R pushing from the rear on exiting a bend and on one occasion when I REALLY gave it some, I felt the power going completely to the outside rear wheel - a very weird sensation but the handling is epic!

    • @zounds13
      @zounds13 ปีที่แล้ว

      I find it helps to get on the throttle earlier in the corners than usual.

  • @jimmyjt16
    @jimmyjt16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Audi fan boys are pissed in the comments 🤣🤣

    • @projectr2451
      @projectr2451 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s hilarious to witness. I’ve seen another video state the Mk7 Golf R was a better driver’s car than the RS3. They just don’t want to hear it, people who have driven neither.

  • @cokecartel8372
    @cokecartel8372 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nah nee S3 is Golf Rs rival

    • @cokecartel8372
      @cokecartel8372 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      New*

    • @DjNikGnashers
      @DjNikGnashers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cokecartel8372 Agreed.
      Golf R is just an Audi S3 in a different dress, so why are they comparing it to the RS3 ?

    • @redline589
      @redline589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DjNikGnashers because it won and cost less

    • @DjNikGnashers
      @DjNikGnashers 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redline589 It won a lap-time battle, on that particular track, driven by those particular drivers.
      That is all.
      On a different track, with longer straights, it would have smashed the Golf.
      It's also a much nicer place to sit, better equipment, and much faster in a straight line.
      I'm not a big fan of either car, I'd much rather have my remapped M140i, which is faster than both !

    • @redline589
      @redline589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DjNikGnashers I agree I owned a mapped m240 "same engine" last yeaar it was a nice car.
      The RS3 is stil lame though its nose heavy and FWD bias system thats why the golf won

  • @Placebo6
    @Placebo6 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is by far best review i have ever seen. Not to say i would buy any of those since a brand new 328i cost me the same as the R and i still dont regret it. yet i have own gti's before and a4 v6's before. and would never, ever ever buy them again. yet the review was amazing. a bit more should have been said about audis interior but i rate 10/10 to this review. Thank you.

  • @bambamson238
    @bambamson238 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Going to save my money and get tier 2 mods to get 0 - 62 under 3.8 secs and still have money for paint before reaching base price of Audi but both are beautiful