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What an amazing interview. I hope that if people only take one thing from this, it will be that the only solution to entity attachment is through Love. No fighting, no judgement, no fire and brimstone, etc. Meeting these energies with Love, is the only answer. I worked as a psychologist and left the profession as it didn't allow me to work with patients in a spiritually useful manner. Now after many years working with energy attachment in people and places, the way to cleansing ourselves is through a simple, peaceful acceptance and Loving the energy that isn't part of us. I use the Namaste approach - the Light within me sees the Light within you. There is Light in the most evil energies, as everything has a spark of the Light hidden within. When we focus on the Light in the darkest of energies, the darkness simply melts away. But we have to know our own Light first, and not do this from a place of ego.
Beautiful comment. This interview was as moving as any on NTA - at least out of the several hundred I've watched. Both Jeffrey and R.F. had compassionate takes on a subject that needs a lot more attention.
@@ilLOLminati Can you explain exactly, what is superficial and sweet about this process? Perhaps you have done this many times and have expert knowledge?
@@ilLOLminati Someone who has not experienced the process, can only have an uninformed opinion. 'Simple' should not be confused with superficial. Am I an expert? Not sure, depends on the definition of expert I guess. I'm 60, I've had personal experience of demonic possession when I was younger, it was terrifying and I became suicidal. I also had several minor entity attachments throughout the years. I've always been an energy worker, I used to do energy cleansing 'the hard way' until I was shown a different method. I've been using this method for twenty years now, with people, places and occasionally objects, and get good feedback. I'm writing a book about the method and experiences. I wonder if Jesus used the Love method, rather than fighting with spirits, it seems to fit in with his teachings. I wish you well.
I do believe that alcohol and drug addictions are demon attachments. That’s why the spiritual solution is the only effective one. But… they never go away completely. They must be battled with daily. One day at a time. Carl Yung knew about this. It’s not ego but evil.
Thank you so much for this interview. As a therapist I am much aligned with Falconer's views and now think of myself more in terms of shamanic healer. I have always done my therapy from a spiritual point of view and agree that it is only unconditional love that has the ability to heal humanity from multigenerational and multidimensional trauma. As this kind of information hits the mainstream there will be so much healing for all of humanity and the human race will evolve into another kind of human.
When I say "I have nothing here for you but love" I get chills all over my body. Im suffering from suicidal ideations and depression. I'll keep say it.
Please watch the old, black and white movie, 'It's a Wonderful Life, ' with Jimmy Stewart as the principal character. Simple message. You're meant to be. You are important in the scheme of things. Keep choosing life. Oh, yes, know this....you are loved... by your own heart.
Yes, love will heal you of this! Say it with deep conviction and check out Jerry Sargeant’s work, it’s multi-dimensional frequency healing. Or look at The Emotion Code (and Body/Belief Codes) by Bradley Nelson. I have a doctorate in clinical psychology, but I practice more energy healing and shamanic style work for exactly the reasons they discussed here. Being holistically spiritual is just not allowed under your license. So wonderful that you came across this video! Good luck to you!
Very helpful interview, particularly considering the impact of trauma amnesia, from multiple traumatic events. Because sometimes people haven’t experienced childhood trauma or adulthood trauma, but both, it’s actually not unlikely in my experience of working with abuse and trauma. You can find yourself working with decades of traumatic experiencing so keeping the client safe is paramount in these circumstances, particularly if you work in a short term therapeutic setting, because there has to be a beginning, middle and end of the therapeutic relationship and process.
Jeffery this was one of the best interviews ever. Intuitive creative expression is the most potent solution to this trauma. May you continue to unburden humanity with your art. Thank for helping bring this phenomenon to the world! You are a true artist of the psyche . Amazing content! Powerful stuff.
Eckert advises that if we feel depressed ask the question: Who's feeling depressed? One day out of no reason I started to feel sad and asked: who's feeling depressed? Slowly my sadness dissolved. After listening to this conversation, I understand better what happened. Thank you for sharing a lot of knowledge ❤
You don’t fail … sometimes they are just not ready even though they want to be. You are absolutely amazing the way you have survived your major trauma first miracle then become so compassionate. You are leading modern psychology where it has to go. UB s cannot be ignored if we are going to move forward. I look forward to speaking with you in December. I have a platform lined up to interview you so your message gets spread , and you are the one to do this 🙏
One of the most insightful interviews I have listened to in a very long time! It explores the curious and powerful interface between the psyche, trauma, shamanism and spirituality with deep compassion and illumination. Such approaches are the only promising ones I can find, that actually addresses the profound suffering and disorientation that some people can experience - in a positive, hopeful and compassionate way . . . Please invite Robert for further interviews . .
There is so much truth here. Speaking from age, experience, and having walked a more solitary path in the same landscape, I can’t adequately express the joy I experienced watching this remarkable video. And every time I wondered ‘Well, what about _____?”, one of you would bring up the relevant topic within a minute or two. Blessings to you both.
Oh, I so wish these concepts and solutions were available when I took my counseling training. What a brilliant strategy for healing. Love this interview. Thank you.
_John Waktins_ was an originator of "parts" of mind pragmatism. His books (hypnoanalysis) are invaluable. His work with WW2 vets changed the world. He mentioned Milton Erickson. GENIUS. Possibly the reincarnation of Socrates. That profound.
As a psyochtherapist i have known about this for the last 20 years and dealt with clients that have possessions. They don't have to be evil spirits, they can be deseased relatives who have attached themselves to the living. They too can cause havoc. There are differences in possession such as an internal possession who hijack the body and live within the host. Then there are outer possession who live attached to the host and the 3rd are part possessions. This means that entites can roam and attach temporarily to family members. All 3 infiltrate the way we think, feel and act and can cause havock in someone's life. It is not always possible to get rid of them yourself and then an exorcist with clairvoyant abilities is needed.
I love how all these different thinkers and psychologists are saying the same thing- back from Plato to Jung to today- and thank you Jeffrey for putting pictures of the books up on the screen as the interview mentioned different books (for those of us nerds who will look up the books and read them)
Thank you so much it was a super exciting conversation and I will dare to write this spiritual tool mentioned above “ I have nothing her for you, but love “
He didn't mention Edith Fiore, maybe she was the first psychologist talking about spirit possession and developed a technique to get rid of these entities. It was a very clinical method, the attached spirit was the patient and she helped them to cross over.
I think Dr Mishlove might have been thinking of Dr Fiore, and possibly Dr Brian Weiss, when he said that some psychologists have lost their certification by talking about spirit possession. Edith Fiore's book The Unquiet Dead was so timely for us as fledgling practitioners. I used one of her scripts until we could develop our own. I'm so grateful to Dr Fiore and to Dr Mishlove for continuing this important work. ♡
Viktor, I was thinking of Edith Fiore, too, and how, in her SRT protocol, she insisted on the element of compassion. (A lot of practitioners such as William Baldwin, demonized the attached spirit, adopting an exorcist mentality, regardless of the traits of the soul in question.) At one point, Fiore even stated that she was more concerned with the 'lost soul' than the client in session and how important it was to see them off safely vs discovering that they could later 'embed' - my term - in another host. I've been wondering who'd take Fiore's work to the next level: it appears Dr. Falconer is doing just that. Paz y luz
@@kellykiernanray5745 Since more people believe in the survival of consciousness than ever, it's surprising that SRT isn't enjoying a 'boom', as well. At times, the stigma for current or prospective practitioners must be confronting. Ironically, I feel the same, as a prospective client with a suspicion that my own life's been affected after an illness several years ago.
@@mortalclown3812 i hope to contribute to the revival. I'm doing my dissertation right now, on the relationship between spirit attachment and traumatic experiences. I work with a very psychic partner. Like Fiore, we lead with compassion and concern ourselves greatly with the well being and correct clearing of the spirit. ♡
@@mortalclown3812 Fiore also said that if she could wave a magic wand, she would give herself psychic ability so she could see and converse with them. We are able to do that.
Lovely how buddhist, "magic," islamic, christian, shamanic and psychotherapy (plus more I'm sure) ideas can coincide. This reminds me of that. Thank you.
This was Another really excellent, enlightening & thoughtful conversation on another really interesting, important & thought provoking topic. Thank you both for sharing you ideas & thoughts!
Robert I am so glad you are brave enough and able to thread all these things together - for years I have been aware of the value of "words of knowledge" in the spiritual realm and of separating a person from junk inhabiting them that does not belong to them, but travels as a hitchhiker or parasitic part. I have recently (last 5 years) discovered R Schwartz and the IFS approach. I now feel I have a clearer way of working in this paradigm without having to separate my spiritually aware parts from my methodical practitioner parts. I now have a way to work within my Self and stay with the client's parts, without second guessing myself. I will try to notice the usefulness of anything where you make a wrong turn - and work with a learning attitude. (Hmmm - I'm not supporting the "5 year old boy and the lama storey - minors cant give consent.)
I wrote a book recently about this, How To Have A Good Life After You’re Dead. I have helped people through their trauma and transition after they die. OBEs or shamanic journeying are what I use. Why they sometimes don’t move on and attach to those living in the physical has a variety of reasons.
🥰🙏 Brilliant discussion🥰 When he talked about how the sun is always there 😭! Now, I just need to find myself a shaman 😅 We're going to need more of him.. 🥰🙏💜💫✌️
I find that BPD has many characteristics in many cases of 'unattached burdens'. I hope this comment isn't taken as creating a stigma but offering a way to understand and perhaps differently go about addressing those that are tortured with that diagnosis. Conversely, I don't mean it to be a cop out that the splitting that often results in extremely damaging behavior in BPD is not the responsibility of the individual.
Fully agree the unburdening of parts is fully shamanic in its process. I do like what Dr Schwartz observes is that IFS has the healing be done by the Self rather than the healer/shaman... its lovely and highly effective...
As a massage therapist I totally appreciate this. PTSD etc w/ clients, therapidt. or resurfacing things, from someone in the room...lol Need some CE us in this area !!
this is sooo confirming of things I have thought to be absolutely true. At a very young age I was drawing pictures that were coming out of somewhere or some experience I couldn't answer from where. Epigenetics explains that as well as all the other similiar experiences I have had through the years that keep coming back to the same theme from the drawings..
Very cool video! Instantly reminded me of my friends in the plural community.. not a plural system myself, but I always found it fascinating to have a team of independent voices in your mind, offering different perspectives, strengths and abilities. Great thing if they work together well.
I worked at a facility were the other staff thought electric shock therapy on our residents was great for depression. I was the only one who opposed it, and I had no authority. They looked at the data on temporary improvement, but ignored the damage done and patient experience.
I have DID and I’m a medium. I’m like a light house for spirits! I live with nature spirits and angels and other beings I have spirit orbs around me and I’m learning to separate my parts from outside entities. Not all the entities are bad some have been helpful but some are misguided helpers and need other jobs to move on as I heal. Having a porous energy field isn’t bad you just want to connect with the right types of energy Spirit possession is really channeling and being a good receiver but people need to heal so they can disconnect from unbalanced consciousness energies!
❤thank you... u summarized all i thought and study all this years..and i believed in although havent found before someone who speaks it. Coz i found this in ppl and wasnt sure how to tr eww at it or work with it😊
Nonlocal mind is primary and also physical. If the universe is physical, then the nonlocal mind is. I am a physicalist atheist. We rule the universe. Earth is just getting started.
It becomes ovbious that using Definitions isolates and imprisons a mind, blinding it to other realities, that become "separated realities", just because of that mind or mental system of naming suppoused separated realities. When everything is strongly related, directly or indirectly, with the rest of the universe. So, one person, trying to be a person, that is a "notable" being, creates himself an ego defined as separated from others, and from other realities, loosing the connections with all. So, every school of psichology becomes separated from the others , by the "definitions" they invent. Perceiving ourselves without "thinking" makes it all easyly clear. Living all time without thinking eliminates all separations, and as we have to recoognize all that there is, is necessary to accept "things" as they are, and all as parts of our universe. Some might be confronting sometimes, but that is not a reason to hate them or fear them. If lions are agressive, just be careful , but do not be afraid, dont hate them for the way they are. We are also maybe terrible killers to ants that we step on. If I can explain what comes from all this interesting conversations. From the north of Mexico, now, in this third planet. Borders can not separate humans, even when they try to. But not because of that we can invade other peoples spaces. Our human bodies are made of many different organs, but only an arrogant mind, conscious of itself , believes she is the Only and One Self. Ja ja!!
True Self, or Self, is the divine light, the God part within us, which all mystics know. It's what's born again in the Christian religion, as the new man described by St. Paul.
I have a hard time believing that these attachments are a part of my ego and not evil. They seem to come from outside and enter in somehow. All I can do by myself is pray for protection.
Can you clarify you comment for me please? Do you mean that she was initially concerned with sending off the spirit and then later realized that they could embed in another person? Or do you mean that if they are not seen off properly that they could embed in another person?
That's pretty much what I thought, too. I mean, as laudable as the work the lama in question wants to keep on with might be, just where in heck does the original soul of the child go to? To some kind of spiritual parking lot? Actually, that just reminded me, check out the movie, Self/Less: it takes on this theme.
I'm unclear how IFS would see the alters that people with DID (though not only) have, who can have distinct personalities and may not see themselves as a part of a 'main person' . It seems as he explains it, they either just lump everything into the category of a person's parts (whether strongly differentiated and even with separate names, personalities and memories, or just 'sides of a person's personality') and then separate entities coming from elsewhere. Is that right?
38:17 I'm of the opinion it is not genetics but information resonance in the aether. Other examples but not related to genetics is watch a winning chair in a game show (I'm a die hard Price is Right fan haha) or a table or slot machine in a casino. As the saying goes "that chair is hot", watch how many winners walk away from that same spot. Another example is people who acquire used items like furniture or electronics, sometimes will get influences from previous owner. Influences say like mental disposition. Now....go back to things of the flesh. Heart transplants, we all know common stories of organ producing memories from previous owner. Another cool example are adopted kin. Separated at birth but exhibit same traits, especially in twins.
We Can Never Say Too Much. We Keep it Real Fair. Divide and You Will Be Conquered We create a binding unity upon all. We unite to conquer. Unfair religions will be conquered. Unfair governments will be conquered. Unfair Gongs will be conquered. Unfair individuals will be conquered. We believe in nothing and also in something. Maybe we Believe in God the Supreme Being - the fairest of all. In fact, God is perfectly fair. Also, we can believe in super determinism and not in God. Some of us are atheists. Science unites us and never divides us. Super determinism is perfectly fair. It is the fate of unfair people and the destiny of fair people. Either way, it is hell for unfair people and heaven for fair people. Team fairness will create heaven on earth before we die, and it will be hell on earth for unfair people before they die.
I think Christopher Neil Smith's distinction between major and minor exorcisms is necessary here. Read Malachi Martin's Hostage To The Devil and wonder how Robert might fare. Then too, there is the implication that the Church Fathers didn't know what they were doing. I would suggest they were very brave people indeed.
I didn't get any implication in this interview that the church exorcists didn't know what they were doing. But the church is very clear that any foreign energy is considered evil, and their exorcism practices are oriented to binding, casting out, rejecting, and not engaging in compassionate dialogue with "evil" beings. The compassionate therapist wants to help all parties involved. I think anomalous activity including spirit possession can be caused by traumatic experience, but can be cleared up in a relatively short time with the right technique. Labeling an entity as evil sets up a polarity that will just spin ad infinitum, whereas loving and compassionate efforts to establish unity consciousness benefits all.
Robert uses the word violence. Twice. The implication is clear. I think spiritual ego is at play here. You wanna be compassionate with spirits, be my guest.
Respect both speakers as I do, I've got to say that pure evil exists. I'm surprised that Dr. M. didn't bring up the work of Dr. Terry Palmer, whom he has also interviewed, . A look into the latter's research will leave no-one doubting the existence of wholly malevolent entities. Kinda tricky to love a non-corporeal but VERY real psychopath.
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What an amazing interview. I hope that if people only take one thing from this, it will be that the only solution to entity attachment is through Love. No fighting, no judgement, no fire and brimstone, etc. Meeting these energies with Love, is the only answer. I worked as a psychologist and left the profession as it didn't allow me to work with patients in a spiritually useful manner. Now after many years working with energy attachment in people and places, the way to cleansing ourselves is through a simple, peaceful acceptance and Loving the energy that isn't part of us. I use the Namaste approach - the Light within me sees the Light within you. There is Light in the most evil energies, as everything has a spark of the Light hidden within. When we focus on the Light in the darkest of energies, the darkness simply melts away. But we have to know our own Light first, and not do this from a place of ego.
Beautifully said!
Beautiful comment. This interview was as moving as any on NTA - at least out of the several hundred I've watched.
Both Jeffrey and R.F. had compassionate takes on a subject that needs a lot more attention.
@@ilLOLminati Can you explain exactly, what is superficial and sweet about this process? Perhaps you have done this many times and have expert knowledge?
@@ilLOLminati Someone who has not experienced the process, can only have an uninformed opinion. 'Simple' should not be confused with superficial. Am I an expert? Not sure, depends on the definition of expert I guess. I'm 60, I've had personal experience of demonic possession when I was younger, it was terrifying and I became suicidal. I also had several minor entity attachments throughout the years. I've always been an energy worker, I used to do energy cleansing 'the hard way' until I was shown a different method. I've been using this method for twenty years now, with people, places and occasionally objects, and get good feedback. I'm writing a book about the method and experiences. I wonder if Jesus used the Love method, rather than fighting with spirits, it seems to fit in with his teachings. I wish you well.
I do believe that alcohol and drug addictions are demon attachments. That’s why the spiritual solution is the only effective one. But… they never go away completely. They must be battled with daily. One day at a time. Carl Yung knew about this. It’s not ego but evil.
Thank you so much for this interview. As a therapist I am much aligned with Falconer's views and now think of myself more in terms of shamanic healer. I have always done my therapy from a spiritual point of view and agree that it is only unconditional love that has the ability to heal humanity from multigenerational and multidimensional trauma. As this kind of information hits the mainstream there will be so much healing for all of humanity and the human race will evolve into another kind of human.
When I say "I have nothing here for you but love" I get chills all over my body. Im suffering from suicidal ideations and depression. I'll keep say it.
I'm the same bro, good luck!
Please watch the old, black and white movie, 'It's a Wonderful Life, ' with Jimmy Stewart as the principal character.
Simple message.
You're meant to be.
You are important in the scheme of things.
Keep choosing life.
Oh, yes, know this....you are loved... by your own heart.
Yes, love will heal you of this! Say it with deep conviction and check out Jerry Sargeant’s work, it’s multi-dimensional frequency healing. Or look at The Emotion Code (and Body/Belief Codes) by Bradley Nelson. I have a doctorate in clinical psychology, but I practice more energy healing and shamanic style work for exactly the reasons they discussed here. Being holistically spiritual is just not allowed under your license. So wonderful that you came across this video! Good luck to you!
Fascinating man and approach. Please do have him back on for more discussion. Thank you Jeffrey and NT team.❤
Very helpful interview, particularly considering the impact of trauma amnesia, from multiple traumatic events. Because sometimes people haven’t experienced childhood trauma or adulthood trauma, but both, it’s actually not unlikely in my experience of working with abuse and trauma. You can find yourself working with decades of traumatic experiencing so keeping the client safe is paramount in these circumstances, particularly if you work in a short term therapeutic setting, because there has to be a beginning, middle and end of the therapeutic relationship and process.
Jeffery this was one of the best interviews ever. Intuitive creative expression is the most potent solution to this trauma. May you continue to unburden humanity with your art. Thank for helping bring this phenomenon to the world! You are a true artist of the psyche . Amazing content! Powerful stuff.
Eckert advises that if we feel depressed ask the question: Who's feeling depressed? One day out of no reason I started to feel sad and asked: who's feeling depressed? Slowly my sadness dissolved. After listening to this conversation, I understand better what happened. Thank you for sharing a lot of knowledge ❤
Wow! What an insightful conversation! And it's kind of interesting to learn that the IFS system has a parapsychological dimension.
Thank you both.
You don’t fail … sometimes they are just not ready even though they want to be. You are absolutely amazing the way you have survived your major trauma first miracle then become so compassionate. You are leading modern psychology where it has to go. UB s cannot be ignored if we are going to move forward.
I look forward to speaking with you in December. I have a platform lined up to interview you so your message gets spread , and you are the one to do this 🙏
As traditional healers from the Anishnaabe here in North Eastern Ontario, we have been doing this work here for the last two years
Two years, eh?
thank you Jeff and Richard
29:45 ....... a follow up interview going into this subject in depth would be terrific
One of the most insightful interviews I have listened to in a very long time! It explores the curious and powerful interface between the psyche, trauma, shamanism and spirituality with deep compassion and illumination. Such approaches are the only promising ones I can find, that actually addresses the profound suffering and disorientation that some people can experience - in a positive, hopeful and compassionate way . . .
Please invite Robert for further interviews . .
There is so much truth here. Speaking from age, experience, and having walked a more solitary path in the same landscape, I can’t adequately express the joy I experienced watching this remarkable video.
And every time I wondered ‘Well, what about _____?”, one of you would bring up the relevant topic within a minute or two. Blessings to you both.
A fascinating conversation with this sincere and humble man.
Oh, I so wish these concepts and solutions were available when I took my counseling training. What a brilliant strategy for healing. Love this interview. Thank you.
Great conversation and podcast! Thank you!
When he humbly said, I’m just another Bozo on the bus, I knew I was in the right place !
_John Waktins_ was an originator of "parts" of mind pragmatism. His books (hypnoanalysis) are invaluable. His work with WW2 vets changed the world.
He mentioned Milton Erickson. GENIUS. Possibly the reincarnation of Socrates. That profound.
What an amazing interview, a very exciting and remarkable experience! Robert's strong sense of humor is so essential. Thank you 🌻
As a psyochtherapist i have known about this for the last 20 years and dealt with clients that have possessions. They don't have to be evil spirits, they can be deseased relatives who have attached themselves to the living. They too can cause havoc. There are differences in possession such as an internal possession who hijack the body and live within the host. Then there are outer possession who live attached to the host and the 3rd are part possessions. This means that entites can roam and attach temporarily to family members. All 3 infiltrate the way we think, feel and act and can cause havock in someone's life. It is not always possible to get rid of them yourself and then an exorcist with clairvoyant abilities is needed.
How marvellous - inspirational and fascinating - many thanks
facinating , wish i could have found him for my son years ago, bitter sweet at the moment
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I love how all these different thinkers and psychologists are saying the same thing- back from Plato to Jung to today- and thank you Jeffrey for putting pictures of the books up on the screen as the interview mentioned different books (for those of us nerds who will look up the books and read them)
Thank you so much it was a super exciting conversation and I will dare to write this spiritual tool mentioned above “ I have nothing her for you, but love “
Great content! Thank you!❤
You guys sure brought the spirit in this talk.
Thank you, Jeffrey! I do look forward to future interviews with Robert.
Watching once again ! What an Interesting and Engaging - Enlightening conversation- contribution. 🕉️🙏🏻
Great interview guys! So insightful, so intelligent, so necessary in todays messed up world.
Thank you both 🙏
Love this integrational talk - from traditional Psychotherapy to Consciousness (mind over matter) to Epigenetics and to the concept of reincarnation ♥
Love your podcast. Thank you so much
Extraordinary, extraordinary, extraordinary!!!
"I contain multitudes". Walt Whitman
Absolutely fascinating!
This is synchronistic in my life, thank you both !
He didn't mention Edith Fiore, maybe she was the first psychologist talking about spirit possession and developed a technique to get rid of these entities. It was a very clinical method, the attached spirit was the patient and she helped them to cross over.
I think Dr Mishlove might have been thinking of Dr Fiore, and possibly Dr Brian Weiss, when he said that some psychologists have lost their certification by talking about spirit possession. Edith Fiore's book The Unquiet Dead was so timely for us as fledgling practitioners. I used one of her scripts until we could develop our own. I'm so grateful to Dr Fiore and to Dr Mishlove for continuing this important work. ♡
Viktor, I was thinking of Edith Fiore, too, and how, in her SRT protocol, she insisted on the element of compassion. (A lot of practitioners such as William Baldwin, demonized the attached spirit, adopting an exorcist mentality, regardless of the traits of the soul in question.)
At one point, Fiore even stated that she was more concerned with the 'lost soul' than the client in session and how important it was to see them off safely vs discovering that they could later 'embed' - my term - in another host.
I've been wondering who'd take Fiore's work to the next level: it appears Dr. Falconer is doing just that.
Paz y luz
@@kellykiernanray5745
Since more people believe in the survival of consciousness than ever, it's surprising that SRT isn't enjoying a 'boom', as well.
At times, the stigma for current or prospective
practitioners must be confronting. Ironically, I feel the same, as a prospective client with a suspicion that my own life's been affected after an illness several years ago.
@@mortalclown3812 i hope to contribute to the revival. I'm doing my dissertation right now, on the relationship between spirit attachment and traumatic experiences. I work with a very psychic partner. Like Fiore, we lead with compassion and concern ourselves greatly with the well being and correct clearing of the spirit. ♡
@@mortalclown3812 Fiore also said that if she could wave a magic wand, she would give herself psychic ability so she could see and converse with them. We are able to do that.
Bob you are amazing~!🥰
thanks jeff for inviting rob , amazing podcast .. we need part 2 and 3 and 4
and a whole series .. why not
Thank you so much for this interview! IFS is brilliant.
Great interview, Jeffrey and Robert! I just bought your book, Robert!
Lovely how buddhist, "magic," islamic, christian, shamanic and psychotherapy (plus more I'm sure) ideas can coincide. This reminds me of that. Thank you.
Great interview.
This was Another really excellent, enlightening & thoughtful conversation on another really interesting, important & thought provoking topic. Thank you both for sharing you ideas & thoughts!
I really loved this for so many different reasons :)
Extremely interesting and useful! Thank you!
Very interesting discussion. Thank you.
Robert I am so glad you are brave enough and able to thread all these things together - for years I have been aware of the value of "words of knowledge" in the spiritual realm and of separating a person from junk inhabiting them that does not belong to them, but travels as a hitchhiker or parasitic part. I have recently (last 5 years) discovered R Schwartz and the IFS approach. I now feel I have a clearer way of working in this paradigm without having to separate my spiritually aware parts from my methodical practitioner parts. I now have a way to work within my Self and stay with the client's parts, without second guessing myself. I will try to notice the usefulness of anything where you make a wrong turn - and work with a learning attitude. (Hmmm - I'm not supporting the "5 year old boy and the lama storey - minors cant give consent.)
I wrote a book recently about this, How To Have A Good Life After You’re Dead. I have helped people through their trauma and transition after they die. OBEs or shamanic journeying are what I use. Why they sometimes don’t move on and attach to those living in the physical has a variety of reasons.
🥰🙏
Brilliant discussion🥰
When he talked about how the sun is always there 😭!
Now, I just need to find myself a shaman 😅
We're going to need more of him..
🥰🙏💜💫✌️
What a great episode
Wow! Thank you for this verification of my journey of healing..........
Fascinating interview. Makes so much sense. ❤
I find that BPD has many characteristics in many cases of 'unattached burdens'. I hope this comment isn't taken as creating a stigma but offering a way to understand and perhaps differently go about addressing those that are tortured with that diagnosis. Conversely, I don't mean it to be a cop out that the splitting that often results in extremely damaging behavior in BPD is not the responsibility of the individual.
What a great talk!
Super good! Half way through his latest book.
I'd be interested in knowing why he completely ignores (and ridicules) that regression can create false memories of abuse.
It amazes me that I took a trip for a few hours, and I listen to the scent of you and when I get home in front of my house the interview ended.
Fully agree the unburdening of parts is fully shamanic in its process. I do like what Dr Schwartz observes is that IFS has the healing be done by the Self rather than the healer/shaman... its lovely and highly effective...
Great interview. Thanks both! ❤
Thank you!
As a massage therapist I totally appreciate this. PTSD etc w/ clients, therapidt. or resurfacing things, from someone in the room...lol Need some CE us in this area !!
this is sooo confirming of things I have thought to be absolutely true. At a very young age I was drawing pictures that were coming out of somewhere or some experience I couldn't answer from where. Epigenetics explains that as well as all the other similiar experiences I have had through the years that keep coming back to the same theme from the drawings..
Thank you so much---great info ❤
Very cool video! Instantly reminded me of my friends in the plural community.. not a plural system myself, but I always found it fascinating to have a team of independent voices in your mind, offering different perspectives, strengths and abilities. Great thing if they work together well.
Awsome, thank you
I worked at a facility were the other staff thought electric shock therapy on our residents was great for depression. I was the only one who opposed it, and I had no authority. They looked at the data on temporary improvement, but ignored the damage done and patient experience.
I have DID and I’m a medium. I’m like a light house for spirits! I live with nature spirits and angels and other beings I have spirit orbs around me and I’m learning to separate my parts from outside entities. Not all the entities are bad some have been helpful but some are misguided helpers and need other jobs to move on as I heal.
Having a porous energy field isn’t bad you just want to connect with the right types of energy
Spirit possession is really channeling and being a good receiver but people need to heal so they can disconnect from unbalanced consciousness energies!
❤thank you... u summarized all i thought and study all this years..and i believed in although havent found before someone who speaks it. Coz i found this in ppl and wasnt sure how to tr eww at it or work with it😊
IFS was very helpful to me❤
You should interview Wand Princika PHD she works with this stuff daily and does a great job of getting rid of the spirits.
i really need help with this and don't know what to do anymore :(
43:28 Just...what? Childhood SA was practically an epidemic in the 70s! Me and almost everyone I knew.
Nonlocal mind is primary and also physical. If the universe is physical, then the nonlocal mind is. I am a physicalist atheist. We rule the universe. Earth is just getting started.
It becomes ovbious that using Definitions isolates and imprisons a mind, blinding it to other realities, that become "separated realities", just because of that mind or mental system of naming suppoused separated realities. When everything is strongly related, directly or indirectly, with the rest of the universe.
So, one person, trying to be a person, that is a "notable" being, creates himself an ego defined as separated from others, and from other realities, loosing the connections with all. So, every school of psichology becomes separated from the others , by the "definitions" they invent.
Perceiving ourselves without "thinking" makes it all easyly clear.
Living all time without thinking eliminates all separations, and as we have to recoognize all that there is, is necessary to accept "things" as they are, and all as parts of our universe. Some might be confronting sometimes, but that is not a reason to hate them or fear them. If lions are agressive, just be careful , but do not be afraid, dont hate them for the way they are. We are also maybe terrible killers to ants that we step on.
If I can explain what comes from all this interesting conversations.
From the north of Mexico, now, in this third planet. Borders can not separate humans, even when they try to. But not because of that we can invade other peoples spaces.
Our human bodies are made of many different organs, but only an arrogant mind, conscious of itself , believes she is the Only and One Self. Ja ja!!
Lobsang Rampa wrote fictional books about all this in the 60s....LOVE and agree totally as a cptsd ❤
"unity in diversity" paramahansa yogananda used to say; paradigm is the edge :
True Self, or Self, is the divine light, the God part within us, which all mystics know. It's what's born again in the Christian religion, as the new man described by St. Paul.
I have a hard time believing that these attachments are a part of my ego and not evil. They seem to come from outside and enter in somehow. All I can do by myself is pray for protection.
Can you clarify you comment for me please? Do you mean that she was initially concerned with sending off the spirit and then later realized that they could embed in another person? Or do you mean that if they are not seen off properly that they could embed in another person?
A silly, personal question: It's no problem but I'm just curious why you wear the headphones? (Always love the interviews BTW!)
To avoid audio feedback, and to simplify the editing process later.
The practice of putting a child together with a dead lama's body to speed up the soul transfer seems to be child abuse.
That's pretty much what I thought, too. I mean, as laudable as the work the lama in question wants to keep on with might be, just where in heck does the original soul of the child go to? To some kind of spiritual parking lot? Actually, that just reminded me, check out the movie, Self/Less: it takes on this theme.
I'm unclear how IFS would see the alters that people with DID (though not only) have, who can have distinct personalities and may not see themselves as a part of a 'main person' . It seems as he explains it, they either just lump everything into the category of a person's parts (whether strongly differentiated and even with separate names, personalities and memories, or just 'sides of a person's personality') and then separate entities coming from elsewhere. Is that right?
Wow
ever think of having David Lynch on? You guys are born the same year.
38:17 I'm of the opinion it is not genetics but information resonance in the aether. Other examples but not related to genetics is watch a winning chair in a game show (I'm a die hard Price is Right fan haha) or a table or slot machine in a casino. As the saying goes "that chair is hot", watch how many winners walk away from that same spot. Another example is people who acquire used items like furniture or electronics, sometimes will get influences from previous owner. Influences say like mental disposition. Now....go back to things of the flesh. Heart transplants, we all know common stories of organ producing memories from previous owner. Another cool example are adopted kin. Separated at birth but exhibit same traits, especially in twins.
And exorcism doesn't have to be violent at all.
We Can Never Say Too Much. We Keep it Real Fair.
Divide and You Will Be Conquered
We create a binding unity upon all. We unite to conquer. Unfair religions will be conquered. Unfair governments will be conquered. Unfair Gongs will be conquered. Unfair individuals will be conquered.
We believe in nothing and also in something. Maybe we Believe in God the Supreme Being - the fairest of all. In fact, God is perfectly fair. Also, we can believe in super determinism and not in God. Some of us are atheists. Science unites us and never divides us.
Super determinism is perfectly fair. It is the fate of unfair people and the destiny of fair people. Either way, it is hell for unfair people and heaven for fair people. Team fairness will create heaven on earth before we die, and it will be hell on earth for unfair people before they die.
The self can never be damaged... except maybe if they put electronic components within the brain? Nah, don't think so 😂
I'm only in 13 minutes and I've fallen in love with this guest. 🤍👍
I think Christopher Neil Smith's distinction between major and minor exorcisms is necessary here. Read Malachi Martin's Hostage To The Devil and wonder how Robert might fare. Then too, there is the implication that the Church Fathers didn't know what they were doing. I would suggest they were very brave people indeed.
I didn't get any implication in this interview that the church exorcists didn't know what they were doing. But the church is very clear that any foreign energy is considered evil, and their exorcism practices are oriented to binding, casting out, rejecting, and not engaging in compassionate dialogue with "evil" beings. The compassionate therapist wants to help all parties involved. I think anomalous activity including spirit possession can be caused by traumatic experience, but can be cleared up in a relatively short time with the right technique. Labeling an entity as evil sets up a polarity that will just spin ad infinitum, whereas loving and compassionate efforts to establish unity consciousness benefits all.
Robert uses the word violence. Twice. The implication is clear. I think spiritual ego is at play here. You wanna be compassionate with spirits, be my guest.
@@thereverendchislet9566 we do, regularly.
@@kellykiernanray5745 good luck
Sympathy for The Devil?
Love your enemies!
Respect both speakers as I do, I've got to say that pure evil exists. I'm surprised that Dr. M. didn't bring up the work of Dr. Terry Palmer, whom he has also interviewed, . A look into the latter's research will leave no-one doubting the existence of wholly malevolent entities. Kinda tricky to love a non-corporeal but VERY real psychopath.
@@Petey_Ouspenskyyou hit the nail on the head!!! These dark beings thrive on hate and causing trouble. They get pleasure hurting you!
Fantastic interview ❤
Thank you 🙏