Mine is a new batch. Smells great and performs great. If I put it on at 7 in the morning, I can still smell it on my arm at 10 in the evening. That's after a full day at work and a workout 🤘
@@frediyt8bp116You can look at the bottom of the bottle and see the alcohol content or you can type in the batch code and figure out when it was made.
@@benniblanco632 And that's how I know you actually haven't smelled the real thing, or if you did, you're judging it based on a small sample size atomizer that you got, which sprays like 1/5 of Cassius'.
See, the thing is most of you are pre-conditioning yourselves because it got reformulated. It's still an EDP concentration. Nobody complains about Althair's performance. Well, that is 83%. But it didn't get reformulated, so we're good? Spray it away from your nose, don't rub it into clothes, then you can measure it's real longevity.
Gotta say I bought Pegasus about 2 months ago, was disappointed about the performance, barely 2 hours... Just wore it today again, better performance like 6-8h, still not remotely as good but i guess a bit bteter...
@@matijamatt693 last winter I put my summer fragrances in my closet and just let them sit there for some time. Now I can notice a difference in performance and def longievity with pretty much all of em. They all varied in how much juice was left in them before I put them away and personally I dont think the amount you have used beforehand effects the maceration process. I could be wrong but thats just my personal experience.
please! make the same for Herod 2018 vs 2023 also huge difference between 78/81%!!! I have a picture that I made with samples of the juice from 2018/2021/2023 and you won't believe how it looks... dark orange 2018 light orange 2021 totally clear 2023 I can't put those pictures here on comment . is there any way to put pictures on comments here?
@@ShahsawarMI hope youre right ... Im pretty disappointed from my 2023 Herod batch ... People say its maturing over time but its been a year now already ...
I have the newer batch. It smells amazing. I get good performance. Also it smells exactly like the sample I got. Which in sure was from an older batch.
And they still date to say that it didn't get reformulated/watered down. Greed will harm them so much, cause I won't buy any pdm anymore and get dupes which last longer.
@@limesinfinity6864 What happened here is a clear example of reduflation, which is an option taken by companies in periods of high inflation so that they do not have to increase the price and some of their customers can no longer buy their products. And the blame for inflation has much more to do with socialist measures and state interventionism than with capitalism, moreover liberals are radically against monetary policies and other measures that cause inflation.
Well, what they exactly say is they didn't reformulate they fragrances but they did had to balance better said correct the alcohol for all their fragrances because the calculations were not accurate or something like that. Always remember, new batch means it pretty fresh out of the boiler it yet has to work. I have a new Percival, Layton know the old ones they perform just as good. Actually with Layton I'm glad they heard the complain about the intense old man medicine smell in the opening that lasted for 2 hohes and balanced it so the menthol coolness is a nice alluring kiss like from a hookah with the spices, fruits and sweets.
I've got the older version. Wonderful. Most of the reformulations butchered the original, except Oajan where the new version has refined the original (but still, Oajan is an unrefined version of Ambre Narguile).
So it went from 22% oil concentration to 18%. That's 16% less oil, quite a bit! To be honest, I find the older one cloying and VERY heavy, so I think this might actually smell better.
@@soumyadeepghosh3562 np I have no idea, everyone is complaining but I have tested and own several new bottles of pdm and I think they are all fantastic
I tried Carlisle on the skin in a store with an old badge probably and it lasted 4 days on my skin while also going to the gym and showering everyday whereas the new one lasts maybe 10-12 hours max
It is, its less dense and last about 1,5 hours less on skin. it does give a great sillage but its closer to the skin. And what he said in the video its a bit more airy than before.
HEROD has become a real eau de toilette that smells (almost) of nothing anymore. PARFUMS DE MARLY is no longer a great perfume house for me. The house has been reformulating its perfumes far too much for some time now, because of the influencers who attract a new, uninformed customer. I can no longer trust this house that does not respect its new customer, less demanding and novice in the world of niche perfume. I do not blame the influencers but it is clear that since the fashion of influencers on the internet, the quality of many perfumes is decreasing. I hope to be able to move soon towards more qualitative perfume houses like Roja Dove. Indeed, I have never heard of reformulation of Roja Dove perfumes. This is perhaps the price to pay to treat yourself to quality perfumes that are never reformulated. Best regards!
I think around 2021. You’ll know if it’s a reformulated version because it’ll say 81% on the base of the bottle. The 77% version only days it on the box, not the bottle
No, you can’t unless you buy second hand. However this video might be useful if you have had the older batch in the past, or weighing up weather the new batches are worth your money
Can anyone explain why these companies keep ruining their best products? Are they like "hey, everyone loves this and we're selling a ton! Let's change it into something different!"
Lol.. “you can’t tell the individual notes” that means the blend is better than the other batches. Please don’t let a 86 hour lasting fragrance keep you from a perfect 10-12 hour scent
All PDM fragrance lines have been reformulated since the company was sold. Don't know what the hell is going on with these fragrance houses shit-housing their fragrances when they change owners (Looking at you Creed)..
You know, those niche houses like creed and PDM are really reminding me of Thanos in avengers end game, where he said he will erase the avengers and no one will remember what was before. Same here. They make the fragrances weaker and worse, in a hope people will get used to it and forger what was before.
Anyone have any experience with Layton exclusif new vs old formulations? I have the original Layton old formulation that outperforms the new exclusif by a country mile. Is it just the new formulation making the difference or is original Layton actually a stronger scent compared to the exclusif?
Before any reformulations with any of them I got better protection from the original Layton, but the Exclusif was denser and lasted a longer time on skin. Reformulations have affected most of the PDM line as far as I have experienced
I bought Herod last year and it’s performance is literally non existent I even complained to PDM who were less than responsive! I have Layton and Pegasus which both perform well! I’ve just ordered Carlisle hopefully it’s not the same as Herod which I wouldn’t recommend to anyone
@@visionaryfragrances Yes, they are very good too, but also different price category. I think Mancera is unbeatable for what you get for the price. I ordered a number of decants, excited to test them.
This is the difference between an average niche perfume house and haute perfumery. HEROD has become a real eau de toilette that hardly smells anything. As long as you're spending a lot of money on perfume, you might as well go for haute perfumery by treating yourself to a perfume from ROJA for example, which does not reformulate its perfumes. I'm starting to have enough of these perfume houses that don't respect their customers. Certainly, with the rise of influencers, customers have become much less demanding; and perfume houses take advantage of this opportunity to distort their creation a little more: either by reducing the concentration of perfume or by removing a few ingredients. Like the well-known CREED AVENTUS which no longer smells anything and yet... we still see influencers who continue to use superlatives to describe the perfume, encouraging victims in front of their PC to obtain the perfume. After this, how do you expect perfume houses to evolve in the right direction? I entered the world of niche perfume a few years ago, but I am now moving towards the world of haute perfumery. I would treat myself to half as many perfumes, but that will be the price to pay to finally own perfumes that will last forever, their concentration and their quality level. Sincerely !
I couldn’t have said it better myself and I agree with everything you have said. I love Roja, and I haven’t experienced any reformulations or changes with his fragrances yet. Have you tried anything from Argos? I have a few but Triumph is my favourite. I am a fan of Nasomatto and Orto Parisi as well. Influencers have certainly changed the niche fragrance world and you can tell which brands are paying a lot to influencers to continually talk about certain fragrances. Now we are seeing this with clone houses. Almost every other video from big fragrance channels is about clones 😴
Newer batch completely gone out my never issued skin chemistry in an hour! Yes, newer batch lasts ONE HOUR. Smells a bit oudy... but it simply doesn't perform as it should. Disappointed, I swear to god! Straight to the point; the honest truth! In paper or clothing it can last ONE AND A HALF, then it dies to be incredible shy.
I don’t know why anyone would buy pdm anymore , sadly the performance of the likes of Carlisle and Layton is poor to what they used to be , there are other perfume houses that do it better , even clones for their money are better value . I have got sick of these houses reformulating and living on the past.
@@antoniobasilio8877 I watched this great video and I read all the comments. Why don't you attack all the people in this video, who left comments, saying what I said more than 1 year ago regarding Parfums de Marly reformulating their fragrances? You rather live in the past and comment on my old post and attack me. Tell all these people that they are wrong about the reformulation of Carlisle & other Parfums de Marly fragrances. You will not do it because you know that Parfums de Marly has reformulated a lot of their fragrances but you will not admit it.
@@Hüsamettincihan loooooool man I bought myself a 2020 pre reform batch that has that mint from the pepper , cardamom and sandalwood. The apple note is amazing too. The new batches are just ….. smh.
I bought Carlisle December 2024 from Nordstrom and it literally only lasts 1-2 hours max with a weak projection it’s super disappointing the old Carlisle smelled much better and lasted dramatically longer and projected way stronger as well unfortunately I used up that bottle I think I have to replace Carlisle with red tobacco or red tobacco intense or Perlador or Cassius or the Carlisle from fragrance world or that Baraka from Initio or the Perris Monte Carlo bois d’oud all great alternatives
Mine is a new batch. Smells great and performs great. If I put it on at 7 in the morning, I can still smell it on my arm at 10 in the evening. That's after a full day at work and a workout 🤘
How can i tell the difference if its new or old batch??
@@frediyt8bp116check the alcohol percentage at the bottom
@@frediyt8bp116You can look at the bottom of the bottle and see the alcohol content or you can type in the batch code and figure out when it was made.
i believe by the alcohol content
Great video,
I have the 81% and it smells amazing and lasts through the next day!
@@Narcissist_Police Then you probably have a fake. The original new formulation makes it max 3-4 hours.
@@benniblanco632 So the fake performs better than the original? Make it make sense bro.
@@yuzde43yanmis Yes, Cassius from Lattafa stays much longer than the reformulated Carlisle. Just as example.
@@benniblanco632 And that's how I know you actually haven't smelled the real thing, or if you did, you're judging it based on a small sample size atomizer that you got, which sprays like 1/5 of Cassius'.
See, the thing is most of you are pre-conditioning yourselves because it got reformulated. It's still an EDP concentration. Nobody complains about Althair's performance. Well, that is 83%. But it didn't get reformulated, so we're good? Spray it away from your nose, don't rub it into clothes, then you can measure it's real longevity.
i heard letting it stay for a while fixes the performance issue
Yeah, Maceration is definitely a thing and I’ve experienced this with a few fragrances nown
Gotta say I bought Pegasus about 2 months ago, was disappointed about the performance, barely 2 hours... Just wore it today again, better performance like 6-8h, still not remotely as good but i guess a bit bteter...
Do you let it stay for awhile after "opening" it, that is after a few first sprays, or not? Cheers.
@@matijamatt693 last winter I put my summer fragrances in my closet and just let them sit there for some time. Now I can notice a difference in performance and def longievity with pretty much all of em. They all varied in how much juice was left in them before I put them away and personally I dont think the amount you have used beforehand effects the maceration process. I could be wrong but thats just my personal experience.
@@snortingduck thanks for sharing that. I'll try that out. Take care
please! make the same for Herod 2018 vs 2023
also huge difference between 78/81%!!!
I have a picture that I made with samples of the juice from 2018/2021/2023
and you won't believe how it looks...
dark orange 2018
light orange 2021
totally clear 2023
I can't put those pictures here on comment .
is there any way to put pictures on comments here?
They ruined Herod, worst performance from maybe all pdm fragrances and that wasn't the case with the original formulation
Its because of maturation, your 2023 bottles will also go darker with time
@@ShahsawarMI hope youre right ... Im pretty disappointed from my 2023 Herod batch ... People say its maturing over time but its been a year now already ...
I have the newer batch. It smells amazing. I get good performance. Also it smells exactly like the sample I got. Which in sure was from an older batch.
And they still date to say that it didn't get reformulated/watered down. Greed will harm them so much, cause I won't buy any pdm anymore and get dupes which last longer.
That is what liberal capitalism does, PDM got sold and volia reformulation
Any recommended dupes?
@@limesinfinity6864 What happened here is a clear example of reduflation, which is an option taken by companies in periods of high inflation so that they do not have to increase the price and some of their customers can no longer buy their products.
And the blame for inflation has much more to do with socialist measures and state interventionism than with capitalism, moreover liberals are radically against monetary policies and other measures that cause inflation.
@@dyhoevt Dua is awesome!
Well, what they exactly say is they didn't reformulate they fragrances but they did had to balance better said correct the alcohol for all their fragrances because the calculations were not accurate or something like that.
Always remember, new batch means it pretty fresh out of the boiler it yet has to work. I have a new Percival, Layton know the old ones they perform just as good. Actually with Layton I'm glad they heard the complain about the intense old man medicine smell in the opening that lasted for 2 hohes and balanced it so the menthol coolness is a nice alluring kiss like from a hookah with the spices, fruits and sweets.
I've got the older version. Wonderful.
Most of the reformulations butchered the original, except Oajan where the new version has refined the original (but still, Oajan is an unrefined version of Ambre Narguile).
So it went from 22% oil concentration to 18%. That's 16% less oil, quite a bit! To be honest, I find the older one cloying and VERY heavy, so I think this might actually smell better.
Where did you learn maths?
@@soumyadeepghosh3562 he’s talking about 16% decrease in oil concentration relative to the old 22%… 22x0.84~18
@@antoniobasilio8877 ohhhh thanks mate , btw I wonder that happened to OAJAN, I've the latest version
@@soumyadeepghosh3562 np
I have no idea, everyone is complaining but I have tested and own several new bottles of pdm and I think they are all fantastic
I tried Carlisle on the skin in a store with an old badge probably and it lasted 4 days on my skin while also going to the gym and showering everyday whereas the new one lasts maybe 10-12 hours max
Yes, there is definitely a difference
@@visionaryfragrances Same for my pegasus...
Kindly compare oajan with old batch
I will do once I get hold of it
@@visionaryfragrances please man, really value your reviews
Any chance u could share ur thoughts on how Pegasus was affected??
It is, its less dense and last about 1,5 hours less on skin. it does give a great sillage but its closer to the skin. And what he said in the video its a bit more airy than before.
I bought Herod last year, it’s smells soooo good but very weak no projection either, waste of money 😢
HEROD has become a real eau de toilette that smells (almost) of nothing anymore. PARFUMS DE MARLY is no longer a great perfume house for me. The house has been reformulating its perfumes far too much for some time now, because of the influencers who attract a new, uninformed customer. I can no longer trust this house that does not respect its new customer, less demanding and novice in the world of niche perfume.
I do not blame the influencers but it is clear that since the fashion of influencers on the internet, the quality of many perfumes is decreasing. I hope to be able to move soon towards more qualitative perfume houses like Roja Dove. Indeed, I have never heard of reformulation of Roja Dove perfumes. This is perhaps the price to pay to treat yourself to quality perfumes that are never reformulated.
Best regards!
@@luqman_4053
Thank you for explaining, I was considering the house of Xjeroff for my next buy 🤔
@@luqman_4053
What a shame!!
They still ask so much money for their fragrances 🤨, i bought two days ago Naxos from Xerjoff 😘
how is carlisle 2019 is 2019 the same as 2018 batch 77? or is carlisle 2019 reformulated to 81 batch
when was carlisle reformulated?😊
I think around 2021. You’ll know if it’s a reformulated version because it’ll say 81% on the base of the bottle. The 77% version only days it on the box, not the bottle
Well, what can you do I mean it's not like we can request the old batch.
No, you can’t unless you buy second hand. However this video might be useful if you have had the older batch in the past, or weighing up weather the new batches are worth your money
Can anyone explain why these companies keep ruining their best products? Are they like "hey, everyone loves this and we're selling a ton! Let's change it into something different!"
Beats me. The only thing I can think of is maximising profit
Have this question all the time. I really don’t know… If anyone knows, please drop the answer!
Easy, they want to rip us off. They donit systemically across most fragrance houses, so you can't escape
Raw material regulations change each year. Some get banned/get limited use thus causing reformulations. You can try looking up the IFRA standards.
@@o2jammer06 Yeah, that makes up for less than 5% of it, the rest is they want to squeeze the customers.
Lol.. “you can’t tell the individual notes” that means the blend is better than the other batches. Please don’t let a 86 hour lasting fragrance keep you from a perfect 10-12 hour scent
Well said... It's madness 😂
All PDM fragrance lines have been reformulated since the company was sold.
Don't know what the hell is going on with these fragrance houses shit-housing their fragrances when they change owners (Looking at you Creed)..
It’s a massive insult to customers
@@visionaryfragrances Absolutely. And the twats have the bollox to increase their prices. Piss off!
To my nose, Carlisle still is a beast. Easily lasts 10+ hours on me.
Yeah the new batches still last a decent amount of time
Hello, i many "pshit" do you use? The projection is also good than the longevity ?
You know, those niche houses like creed and PDM are really reminding me of Thanos in avengers end game, where he said he will erase the avengers and no one will remember what was before. Same here. They make the fragrances weaker and worse, in a hope people will get used to it and forger what was before.
Anyone have any experience with Layton exclusif new vs old formulations? I have the original Layton old formulation that outperforms the new exclusif by a country mile. Is it just the new formulation making the difference or is original Layton actually a stronger scent compared to the exclusif?
Before any reformulations with any of them I got better protection from the original Layton, but the Exclusif was denser and lasted a longer time on skin. Reformulations have affected most of the PDM line as far as I have experienced
I bought Herod last year and it’s performance is literally non existent I even complained to PDM who were less than responsive! I have Layton and Pegasus which both perform well! I’ve just ordered Carlisle hopefully it’s not the same as Herod which I wouldn’t recommend to anyone
The new Carlisle is very disappointing, almost regret the purchase. I will never buy PdM again, they ruined it. Mancera is now my favorite brand.
I’m starting to think Roja are my favourite niche brand
@@visionaryfragrances Yes, they are very good too, but also different price category. I think Mancera is unbeatable for what you get for the price.
I ordered a number of decants, excited to test them.
This is the difference between an average niche perfume house and haute perfumery. HEROD has become a real eau de toilette that hardly smells anything.
As long as you're spending a lot of money on perfume, you might as well go for haute perfumery by treating yourself to a perfume from ROJA for example, which does not reformulate its perfumes.
I'm starting to have enough of these perfume houses that don't respect their customers.
Certainly, with the rise of influencers, customers have become much less demanding; and perfume houses take advantage of this opportunity to distort their creation a little more: either by reducing the concentration of perfume or by removing a few ingredients. Like the well-known CREED AVENTUS which no longer smells anything and yet... we still see influencers who continue to use superlatives to describe the perfume, encouraging victims in front of their PC to obtain the perfume.
After this, how do you expect perfume houses to evolve in the right direction?
I entered the world of niche perfume a few years ago, but I am now moving towards the world of haute perfumery.
I would treat myself to half as many perfumes, but that will be the price to pay to finally own perfumes that will last forever, their concentration and their quality level.
Sincerely !
I couldn’t have said it better myself and I agree with everything you have said.
I love Roja, and I haven’t experienced any reformulations or changes with his fragrances yet.
Have you tried anything from Argos? I have a few but Triumph is my favourite. I am a fan of Nasomatto and Orto Parisi as well.
Influencers have certainly changed the niche fragrance world and you can tell which brands are paying a lot to influencers to continually talk about certain fragrances.
Now we are seeing this with clone houses. Almost every other video from big fragrance channels is about clones 😴
@@visionaryfragrances bonjour, comment est Triumph Of Bacchus comparé au Carlisle reformulé? J'ai entendu dire que Triumph était plus léger encore.
I barley notice Oajans projection with the new silver bottle I think they it is a sub par house performance wise now
Yeah all the new PDM’s are a shadow of what they were
@@visionaryfragrancesI agree
Newer batch completely gone out my never issued skin chemistry in an hour! Yes, newer batch lasts ONE HOUR. Smells a bit oudy... but it simply doesn't perform as it should. Disappointed, I swear to god! Straight to the point; the honest truth! In paper or clothing it can last ONE AND A HALF, then it dies to be incredible shy.
I don’t know why anyone would buy pdm anymore , sadly the performance of the likes of Carlisle and Layton is poor to what they used to be , there are other perfume houses that do it better , even clones for their money are better value . I have got sick of these houses reformulating and living on the past.
you wontbe able to buy a batch from 2018 so pretty pointless
I've bought CARLISLE (81%) and unfortunately the longevity is about 4 hours. On forward you are left with very close skin scent.
I get 12+ hr
Facts. Dont listen to others guys, this is true
Obviously the longevity will vary from one skin to another but I dont the gap is that big.@@raiden6513
When was the reformulation done ?
@@antoniobasilio8877 I watched this great video and I read all the comments. Why don't you attack all the people in this video, who left comments, saying what I said more than 1 year ago regarding Parfums de Marly reformulating their fragrances? You rather live in the past and comment on my old post and attack me. Tell all these people that they are wrong about the reformulation of Carlisle & other Parfums de Marly fragrances. You will not do it because you know that Parfums de Marly has reformulated a lot of their fragrances but you will not admit it.
New laytons are very bad.
Extremely bad
@@rogerlid2118can you tell me how? I bought a layton sample from scentsplit and it doesnt seem bad or could it be the samples from older batch? Idk
When I wear like 8-10 sprays I get a shit ton of compliments but when I wear 4-5 I get none
@@Hüsamettincihan loooooool man I bought myself a 2020 pre reform batch that has that mint from the pepper , cardamom and sandalwood. The apple note is amazing too. The new batches are just ….. smh.
I bought Carlisle December 2024 from Nordstrom and it literally only lasts 1-2 hours max with a weak projection it’s super disappointing the old Carlisle smelled much better and lasted dramatically longer and projected way stronger as well unfortunately I used up that bottle I think I have to replace Carlisle with red tobacco or red tobacco intense or Perlador or Cassius or the Carlisle from fragrance world or that Baraka from Initio or the Perris Monte Carlo bois d’oud all great alternatives