Are You a Sheik Player? - Super Smash Bros. Melee

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  • Super Smash Bros Melee Sheik and everything you need to know about her. Are you a Sheik Player? Watch and find out!
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ความคิดเห็น • 772

  • @teaberry369
    @teaberry369 7 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    Sheiks wavedash be like:
    TU TU U TU TU TU TU

    • @Leedo925
      @Leedo925 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dis doof
      So they're French wavedashes

    • @jrkanaan
      @jrkanaan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu

    • @Amaling
      @Amaling 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly her Tus might be enough to make me not main her, it's just damn annoying and I can't imagine spending years listening to that 100 times a match

    • @brixtonderek7793
      @brixtonderek7793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i know im asking the wrong place but does someone know a tool to get back into an Instagram account..?
      I stupidly lost the password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me!

    • @amirmark5875
      @amirmark5875 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Brixton Derek Instablaster =)

  • @awesomefish100
    @awesomefish100 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This game is 15 years old and there's a channel that still regularly puts out tutorials for it.... This game is legendary, wish I never sold it

  • @conanbdetective
    @conanbdetective 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember Ice using the Zelda - Sheik transformation style while in the heat of battle quite often (in some European Smash VODs and especially Apex 2015 match vs HBox recorded with a hand camera)

  • @SnakeMaster
    @SnakeMaster 8 ปีที่แล้ว +323

    Zelda isn’t so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a character with such good attacks and movement as Zelda? Zelda puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a character with her skill and attacks in the game again. Fox breaks records. Falco breaks records. Zelda breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.

    • @o0DeusExMachina0o
      @o0DeusExMachina0o 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      This is my favorite TH-cam comment

    • @TunaDMoney
      @TunaDMoney 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +snakemaster777 omfg when will this pasta end.

    • @SnakeMaster
      @SnakeMaster 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +QuagsireCrotchKick Hey Mods, This isn't a Copy Paste, but I just wanted to let you know, you're all Nazi Mods. Thanks, and stop. It's not cool. If I wanted you to ban me, I would post giant E-Peens of ASCII art, but I don't, so don't. That's not cool. I would prefer it if you actually learned to be a mod instead of being a Nazi. Nazi was the cause of a World War, do we really need the 3rd one already? So, just stop. Thanks, and stop.

    • @satchelsguitarshop
      @satchelsguitarshop 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      +QuagsireCrotchKick This pasta isn’t so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a pasta with such good versatility and editability as this one? This pasta puts the the Smash community in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a pasta with these skills and attacks on the internet again. Twitch Chat breaks records. TH-cam comment section breaks records. This pasta breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.

    • @TunaDMoney
      @TunaDMoney 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Who the fuck let Melee hell leak into TH-cam

  • @williamgrand9724
    @williamgrand9724 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Do a vid on the Falco vs Sheik matchup

  • @YellowYoshi398
    @YellowYoshi398 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Is m2k wearing ZeRo's scarf at 2:39?

  • @piguy9369
    @piguy9369 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fav sheik main is Plup, he's right on the edge of the top 6 and it'll be interesting to see if he can make it with just sheik.
    Also, the key to playing sheik is trying to make people hate her more.

  • @vito7011
    @vito7011 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the best series on TH-cam :3

  • @snocoldman
    @snocoldman 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the reason people get so mad at sheik mains is because of:
    A) The ability to abuse tactics (said by Kira @ 5:19) that are high reward low risk
    B)The low technical/conceptual skill cap for such tactics
    I think its B) that gets people so mad. There are many top tier characters who have abusable tactics but go unhated because of their high (or higher at least) skill cap.
    Also Flaco Lambaradi drills plz Kira ty

  • @QWERTY708100
    @QWERTY708100 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    For being THE Balloon Pokémon, Jiggs sure can fuck over Sheik.

  • @illican
    @illican 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do you like seeing salty Marth mains? Then Sheik is the character for you.

  • @andresrivera7999
    @andresrivera7999 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    kira do the second part on sheik's neutral game

  • @sdrawkcab190
    @sdrawkcab190 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure if it's just a problem on my end, but there's no link at the end of the video for "other sheik tutorials"

  • @mn-pegasus
    @mn-pegasus 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It might just be me, but I become the Arthur fist meme when my opponent changed to ice climbers after I pick Sheik.

  • @ninjay345
    @ninjay345 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes!!! i love these! Glad to see more

  • @joeylivorno744
    @joeylivorno744 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Im play sheik and my friends all get really salty a lot... But i win all the time

  • @abelcastillo809
    @abelcastillo809 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol as a kid my sister would play as Sheik and I'd play as Kirby. Luckily neither of us were good so I never got bodied.

  • @KobayashisEgo
    @KobayashisEgo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you enjoy playing samus? Samus us for you if:
    You like watching Leffen 0-to-deathed
    You think Leffen is a punk
    You enjoy watching Leffen get salty

  • @sebastianlaudage7218
    @sebastianlaudage7218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome Jmook fans, welcome

  • @kitsunestudio4058
    @kitsunestudio4058 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Song of storms remix noice

  • @SSS7527
    @SSS7527 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    dave watched his own video and his answer was no

  • @kj81325
    @kj81325 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a Zelda video? I main her and it seems nobody else does :(

  • @Soleryth
    @Soleryth 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please, how is called the sound effect used at 0:31 ?

  • @Turnup_IRL
    @Turnup_IRL 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next video should be "Are You a Peach Player?"

  • @jairuhhme
    @jairuhhme 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    do you like getting your opponent frustrated as fuck? if so, then yes, you are a sheik main.

  • @elliotiler
    @elliotiler 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the intro song, 0:50?

  • @minis.1541
    @minis.1541 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do peach next?

  • @EmilyRose-wt8nt
    @EmilyRose-wt8nt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    They forgot "Are you a yoshi player?" :(

  • @BigBassSmallBoike
    @BigBassSmallBoike 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    rip pal sheiks

  • @mvargas3428
    @mvargas3428 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    is not a ninja, she's a sheika

  • @KyuseiFFXIV
    @KyuseiFFXIV 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Korean DJ retired and Druggedfox no longer plays sheik :(

  • @x3no
    @x3no 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shiek is your main if: you like crossdressing

  • @Lightningsnowstorm
    @Lightningsnowstorm 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do "Are You a Peach Player?" next?

  • @thepanchozombie
    @thepanchozombie 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    do one for samus

  • @DyollAicrag
    @DyollAicrag 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great quality

  • @awkwardseal5476
    @awkwardseal5476 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you do kirby next? .w.

  • @thedudeman4078
    @thedudeman4078 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sheik is your character if:
    You don't want to learn tech skill
    You want to use forward air and never have to learn L canceling
    You want to spam forward tilt instead of learning proper neutral game
    You have less style than a blank sheet of paper
    and of coarse, you want to chain grab instead of getting an actual punish game.

  • @jellifisticz1467
    @jellifisticz1467 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shrines isn't a famous sheik main?

  • @sacdoesvlogs
    @sacdoesvlogs 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol the deon custom

  • @casualvices
    @casualvices 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Love playing shiek in super smash 4 but i dont know
    how you can Transform zelda in shiek in brawl

    • @lucifersam7946
      @lucifersam7946 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can select the cursor on Sheik.

  • @jazaniac
    @jazaniac 8 ปีที่แล้ว +427

    > sheik players often get a lot of hate
    Every ice climber main begins cracking up

    • @GhjklasGaing
      @GhjklasGaing 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Jigglypuff mains gets triggered

    • @ZeldaFanZordecai
      @ZeldaFanZordecai 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah there is a difference between hate for an overall effective character and using a cheap infinite auto-stock.

    • @Kid_2103
      @Kid_2103 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude, how many times did you comment?

    • @hugoclarke3284
      @hugoclarke3284 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The mere concept of an "ice climber main" cracks me up

    • @usarmyisthebest9193
      @usarmyisthebest9193 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Justvo
      You mean ledgebox?

  • @ShadowMark3_
    @ShadowMark3_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    In honor of Bizzaro Flame's retirement, do "Are you a Ganondorf player?" next.

    • @misterexcitement4037
      @misterexcitement4037 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      same

    • @christiantaylor12
      @christiantaylor12 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's okay he's up-tilting the plaintiff now. I'll miss the man but he's moving on to greater things in life. I agree that he deserves a tribute though.

    • @lukepfeiffer7871
      @lukepfeiffer7871 8 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Ganondorf is for you if:
      You are a masochist
      You like to constantly fight uphill battles
      You like memes

    • @michaelschlag
      @michaelschlag 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      no
      please no
      let's get the good characters first
      Ganondorf is for you if:
      You don't have any tech skill
      You love reddit
      You complain about people who use better characters
      And you really love shitty reddit memes

    • @TurbinationE
      @TurbinationE 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Michael Schlag I'm not a Ganon main but I used to play him often. Your description seems inaccurate.
      Toxic Ganon mains would probably just constantly talk about how they styled on or disrespected some guy.

  • @AbsoPS
    @AbsoPS 8 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Hax's tier list is actually so bad and should never be referenced or used to prove a point

    • @redwarrior118
      @redwarrior118 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Noone has ever won a supermajor solo sheik tho

    • @johnnycrash4892
      @johnnycrash4892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@redwarrior118 plup

    • @redwarrior118
      @redwarrior118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@johnnycrash4892 i think he went fox a couple games

    • @AbsoPS
      @AbsoPS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      LMAO 4 years ago me is a fucking toxic ass wtf I forgot I even commented this

    • @dad4436
      @dad4436 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AbsoPS he made a new tier list

  • @TheCanon66
    @TheCanon66 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Sheik is too easy! You don't have to spend hours learning how to multishine, jab-upsmash, and sh double laser... Because obviously tech skill is the only thing you need to be a good player in this game.

    • @Kid_2103
      @Kid_2103 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Remember the Sheik player Borp?

    • @phantomsai2861
      @phantomsai2861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On Top Level of Play, sheik is definitly not an easy charackter. She of Course has her pros and on low Level of Play it is easier for charackters like Marth, Falco, Sheik. But if you are crying about jab upsmash then simply do the claw. Further more sheik is a very fast Charackter and the fast falling Speed with sheik is the same as with fox and they both have a jumpsquat of 3 Frames which makes nair out of Shield SHFFL not so easy to execute. Just learn the matchups between Charackters.

    • @giantclaw138
      @giantclaw138 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phantomsai2861 Everyone becomes hard at top level play, you're point on Sheik makes sense.

    • @willdg8108
      @willdg8108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hubris gubber homie what are you on

    • @BarriLIVE
      @BarriLIVE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @hubris gubber sarcasm

  • @Trinexx42
    @Trinexx42 8 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Are you a Sheik player?
    Sheik is for you if:
    You want every Marth main to hate you
    None of your friends main Marth/You are ok with losing your friends that play Marth
    All of the people you hate main Marth
    You like the taste of Marth's salty tears
    You enjoy forcing Marth mains switch to their secondary
    You like receiving the middle finger from every Marth player on the planet
    You want every Marth main to hate you

    • @jfmhunter375
      @jfmhunter375 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lmao this - i swap to falco when my friend comes over

    • @evy9684
      @evy9684 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At first I thought this was gonna be another one of those insulting comments that insults players. But this is just hilarious.

    • @abbearv2456
      @abbearv2456 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Aaaaand i found the marth player!

    • @ScorpMatoro
      @ScorpMatoro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a sheik player I’d say: learn the matchup

    • @NeopolitanOW
      @NeopolitanOW 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOOK GUYS! A MARTH MAIN

  • @ZachHenke
    @ZachHenke 8 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Did anyone else rewind just to see how low on his tier list hax had falcon?

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He must have that much of a low opinion on falcon ever since he dropped him for fox

    • @osto9967
      @osto9967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lapplandkun9273 It is his favorite low tier

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@osto9967 im pretty sure you mean hated. Hax hates falcon XD

  • @jazaniac
    @jazaniac 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    so I just have to ask, what even is an auto-combo? Is it a combo where the next hit is guaranteed? Cause most of sheik's combos, like ftilt or dtilt into fair, aren't even that.

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yeah technically "auto-combos" don't exist it's just a way for noobs to say it's easy to combo with her

    • @AwesomepianoTURTLES
      @AwesomepianoTURTLES 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      SSBM Tutorials
      Marth chaingrab on FD is an auto combo :/

    • @giantclaw138
      @giantclaw138 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AwesomepianoTURTLES LOL that's funny

    • @americantimemachine7128
      @americantimemachine7128 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would actually say-auto-combo more means the combo more or less autopilots with button spam. Like with Marth you basically can "combo" by spamming a with the control stick.

  • @fr3ak1shh
    @fr3ak1shh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I don't care if people think Sheik has "easy auto combos" - Just play who you have the most fun with.

    • @lumberdumperslamlets-go1179
      @lumberdumperslamlets-go1179 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And for some people easy auto combos that dont make you have to think that hard are fun

    • @fr3ak1shh
      @fr3ak1shh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +LUMBERDUMPERSLAM lets-go Smash 4 in a nutshell

    • @voltekka47
      @voltekka47 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +LUMBERDUMPERSLAM lets-go Because combos are everything, amirite? s/

    • @fr3ak1shh
      @fr3ak1shh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +ChillTerumi At upper levels, they kind of are. Openings are tough, so getting as much percent off at once is essential.

    • @voltekka47
      @voltekka47 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      G'J008 But that doesn't matter if you're not even good enough to get a hit in.

  • @8888TwistingFate
    @8888TwistingFate 8 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    RIP Shroomed, not good enough to be considered famous?

    • @matheusvasiliauskassoares4361
      @matheusvasiliauskassoares4361 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Louis Colangelo But we all know that Plup is Samus in our hearts

    • @tyo9115
      @tyo9115 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +littlejakers I've never even heard of Flash

    • @Sabbathfaax
      @Sabbathfaax 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's secretly a Falco main

    • @thesaucypickle9866
      @thesaucypickle9866 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Louis Colangelo wish he'd go back to doc imo he's a subpar sheik but a godly doc

    • @sealoss6136
      @sealoss6136 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      +TheSaucyPickle top 10 in the world = subpar sheik okkkkkk

  • @Grovfu
    @Grovfu 8 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I think it's pretty shitty that people are slinging autism and no friend jokes around in comments just because someone doesn't go spacies or falcon and because they got triggered by loosing to them in tourney.

    • @wetalkinb0utpractice
      @wetalkinb0utpractice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Autism jokes are funny though.

    • @n0v3mb3r7
      @n0v3mb3r7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@wetalkinb0utpractice no

    • @wetalkinb0utpractice
      @wetalkinb0utpractice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@n0v3mb3r7 yes

    • @n0v3mb3r7
      @n0v3mb3r7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@wetalkinb0utpractice making fun of someone for being born with a developmental disorder is fucked up.

    • @wetalkinb0utpractice
      @wetalkinb0utpractice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@n0v3mb3r7 it's funny.

  • @Angelo-uo2gj
    @Angelo-uo2gj 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's interesting that you said Sheik was an "easy" character. I started playing Melee competitively a month ago and back then I played as Sheik because her tools were so strong and required almost no tech skill. As my tech skill became more solid I felt limited by her and have since moved on to Falco. However, that transition took a substantial amount of practice since Falco is a more tech heavy character.

  • @oiponabys7008
    @oiponabys7008 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    kinda surprised to see that sheik has a reputation of dumb character when marth has no advanced techniques and auto cancel aerials

    • @jfmhunter375
      @jfmhunter375 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i mean marth is still harder in a whole sense. disregard the profile pic i play falco

    • @Coolbeans554
      @Coolbeans554 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      marth does have advanced techniques like a tipper fsmash on that one standing frame when dash dancing..

    • @Phoenix1212121212
      @Phoenix1212121212 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wouldn't say marth is harder. He has way safer approach options, which means he has the option to go aggro if his opponent starts camping him out. Also he handles pressure much easier because his fair is a "jack of all trades" when it comes to trading hits, it always trades positively if you just space your distance correctly. You can't really say the same thing about Sheiks nair or ftilt.

    • @chocomilkfps1264
      @chocomilkfps1264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Marth has no advanced techniques" God damn... even for 4 years ago this is a noob comment

  • @kapzillion1997
    @kapzillion1997 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    SSBM Tutorials! Can you do a series of how to approach with characters in the game?? I think that is where I struggle the most. Knowing how to approach, when to approach, and when not to approach. Thanks and keep up the good work man.

    • @SSBMTutorials
      @SSBMTutorials  8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +kapzillion1997 Check out our "Neutral Game" tutorials, that's what approaching is all about. Some of them have been re-titled to "how to approach"

    • @CosplayParadise1995
      @CosplayParadise1995 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +SSBM Tutorials Finally someone who knows for a fact that Sheik's a woman

  • @smittyyagermanjenson2067
    @smittyyagermanjenson2067 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Lol Kira's bias comes out so hard when he talks about sheik

  • @-lecceo-3168
    @-lecceo-3168 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm really sick of sheik haters(or haters of any character really). If you are really complaining, you aren't good enough to be complaining. That simple. I don't even main sheik, but it seems that different people get pissed at whoever i play. And don't even get me started on "tier-whore" haters.

    • @johngroves2876
      @johngroves2876 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't complain about fox because I think he's op. I complain because melee gets boring when every single friendly I play at a tournament is against fox.

  • @DctrBread
    @DctrBread 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kira why are you telling people to DI away from sheik's dthrow? why are you spreading lies?
    do not listen to kira. DIing away from sheik's dthrow makes the chaingrab work at higher percentages. if you play marth the chaingrab only works on you if you DI away from her. do not mindlessly DI away against sheik. Especially as yoshi, because you can just double-jump out at 20% or something and djc a falling u-air or n-air.

  • @KashiwaDaisuke
    @KashiwaDaisuke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "While her true identity may be Zelda..."
    dude spoilers

    • @mnoypoiuyt65r4w8
      @mnoypoiuyt65r4w8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      im shaking and crying rn how could he spoil it

  • @SkaillerLPE
    @SkaillerLPE 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice vid as usual! (Even though you propably already have heard this waaaaay too many times...) I really wish there was a channel that does these kind of videos for the PAL version of the game. Some differences are just too drastic... Do you think its possible to add a small "PAL changes" part in the future for the next "Are You a ______ Player?" That would be awesome.

    • @GamingPenis
      @GamingPenis 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      good idea i would love this

  • @jkaizen8272
    @jkaizen8272 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    rip shroomed no love for the black man

  • @JNuts24
    @JNuts24 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like how leaving out a top player from the notable mains has become a running gag for this series.

  • @aby1967
    @aby1967 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Sheik is for you if:
    You wanted to play Link but don't like losing.

    • @nombre2781
      @nombre2781 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think this fits Marth better

  • @papertiger982
    @papertiger982 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All these spacie players complaining about autocombos when they just hold down the whole time in this matchup and try to get boner shines. hmph

  • @Puncake
    @Puncake 8 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Still waiting for are you a Weegee or Mayro player.

    • @mikehawk8385
      @mikehawk8385 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      +DidYouSayChocolate Do you:
      - Enjoy losing

    • @amoria4847
      @amoria4847 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mike Hawk As for weegee: Do you think Falcon is bad, because he could've gotten away with reverse forward air?

    • @DonnyKirkMusic
      @DonnyKirkMusic 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mike Hawk
      they are mid tiers so they aren't really that bad but whatever :////

    • @CoBeX31
      @CoBeX31 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +cool “stink” man "mid-tier" in Melee means "will never win a tournament period".

    • @Zadamanim
      @Zadamanim 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +CoBeX31 Most players will never win a tournament, period. People shouldn't feel pressured to play flawlessly with a top tier when we're all just here to have fun.

  • @dyb368
    @dyb368 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Jiggs next plz

    • @rcdotjpeg
      @rcdotjpeg 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Do you like not having fun and only spacing bairs for 6+ minutes. Because if you want consistent results thats what you'll have to do.

    • @dyb368
      @dyb368 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      tekk has definitely shown you don't need to be hbox to win things

    • @dyb368
      @dyb368 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok i'm not denying that it looks like the only way to win is be hbox and bair your way to victory, but it's confirmation bias, the character itself is fine and has the capacity to play super lame, but it isn't a necessity, there's only 4 or 5 good puff players (besides hbox ) compared to the shitton of fox falco marth players, and it's not like their fundamentals are the greatest (except for tekk) so it's hard to judge, but i'm leaning for puff being non-lamely viable.

    • @dyb368
      @dyb368 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      RowanVODs yeah but it's the main reason he's lame which is what we're arguing? that puff can be lame, but doesn't have to be.

    • @willscharnagl6909
      @willscharnagl6909 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +PurpleToaster Tekk sux

  • @VicoMMIII
    @VicoMMIII 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sheik in ultimate
    Power 1.5/5
    Speed 5
    Range 2
    Recovery 5
    Survivability 1.5
    Overall offense 3
    Overall defence 2

  • @TheBeggies95
    @TheBeggies95 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You're a sheik player if you hate marth

  • @NathanPCGamer
    @NathanPCGamer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    haha yes but i think people should know why sheik can shit on most beginners or intermediate players. And then can lose to the highest levels of fox, falco, marths
    etc
    Not giving sheiks a hard time, because i have learned that i have to accept playing them.
    For crying out loud, i live in sheik-toria where top like 6 of the top 8 on vancouver island play sheik. And they are not the best because sheik is easy, but because they are the best players.

    • @illican
      @illican 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +NathanPCGamer It's the opposite in SoCal, we have a few good Sheiks, but they have to become tech chase gods before they can even begin to face off against the vicious spacies.

    • @NathanPCGamer
      @NathanPCGamer 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol yeah

    • @illican
      @illican 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      At the very least, we also have a good amount of Falcons to toy around with.

  • @pikablu9375
    @pikablu9375 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I usually rack up the damage with sheik then switch to zelda to finish them off. Can you do a Princess Zelda ssbm tutorial? :3

    • @TheBeggies95
      @TheBeggies95 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just press down B ;)

  • @TunaDMoney
    @TunaDMoney 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever been playing as Marth and you said to yourself "Jeez I wish Fair was a bullshit killmove that's easy as balls to combo into"?
    Then play Sheik!

  • @merritt2014
    @merritt2014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a casual player who plays with other casual players, I do find her to probably be the best casual character in the game. Racks up tons of damage easily, super fast, moves come out fast, etc. But I can see how things are 100% different from the actual competitive standpoint of people who actually know how to play the game serious.

  • @jefflindsay1901
    @jefflindsay1901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol I did a combo with shiek that did 87

  • @ZeroGamerGuy7
    @ZeroGamerGuy7 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a proud Sheik main. Fuck what anyone says about her.

  • @thesaucypickle9866
    @thesaucypickle9866 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sheiks an ok character i dont know why she gets so much hate

  • @landonronk6948
    @landonronk6948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i can garuntee that hax was on some crack when he made his tier list, he put my boy falcon in e tier

  • @BENJAMIN-pc1ir
    @BENJAMIN-pc1ir 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    tl;dw
    1. you hate fun
    2. you are soulless
    3. you kick puppies
    hilarious and original

    • @evy9684
      @evy9684 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      No not really

    • @BENJAMIN-pc1ir
      @BENJAMIN-pc1ir 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      its pasta

    • @evy9684
      @evy9684 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is pasta?

    • @BENJAMIN-pc1ir
      @BENJAMIN-pc1ir 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Scieric copied stuff

    • @evy9684
      @evy9684 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dat Up-Smash O. Copypasta. Either way, I don't like comments like that.

  • @yavical
    @yavical 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im a shiek main and her combo game is linear most of the time but her Dair and soft hits make her combos hard, fun and rewarding when you get them.... her reverse fair is gorgeous mid combo

    • @zegtronic
      @zegtronic 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      please dont say "hard" say "smart" i dont wanna be on the same level as all these falcos and foxes who think techskill means youre good

  • @Puncake
    @Puncake 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:24 casual fraud confirmed

  • @kirjian
    @kirjian 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I laughed way harder than I should've at the giant top tier fox COME ON

  • @Prodigial
    @Prodigial 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, the only people who really hate on sheik are salty idiots who aren't good at the game and think learning how to double shine, wave shine, etc automatically means you should get out of pools at tourneys. They know little of the basics and usually have bad spacing and mindgames. I don't even main sheik but I acknowledge she takes a different set of skills than other characters which many people say makes her easy. These are the same players who likely say KDJ, Ken, and Azen suck and that Hax$, Mang0, and Westballz are amazing and the best.

    • @KiRAyylmao
      @KiRAyylmao 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +BonJoviFanboy I agree with you but by modern standards kdj ken and azen do suck when compared to mango hax and westballz

    • @oathization
      @oathization 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +erty3125 Ken I'm pretty sure took a set off of Westballz recently. But alot of people seem to do that

    • @KiRAyylmao
      @KiRAyylmao 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      oathization ken is weird, from time to time he can compete with really good players other times he goes for the 4th hit of dancing blade repeatedly

    • @oathization
      @oathization 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      erty3125 It's fun but so bad to do

    • @Prodigial
      @Prodigial 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +erty3125 I know. I'm just saying the older players focused more on spacing, mindgames, and the basics more than tech skill. Most players nowadays only care about tech skill. I've got kids in the first few layers of tourneys with WAY more tech skill than me but I still beat them and they get salty for using a "no skill" character like Peach.

  • @SakamotoSuzumiya
    @SakamotoSuzumiya 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FINALLY Been waiting for this since you started doing these! My favorite Shiek main (and favorite player) is Mew2King. Thanks Kira.

  • @Carroway
    @Carroway 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    peach next please

  • @morganlak4337
    @morganlak4337 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amsah listed before m2k as famous sheik lol

  • @Bager_RBN
    @Bager_RBN 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, Sheik is this game's equivalent of O.Sagat from SSF2:T: unquestionably a very powerful character, oppressively good against low tiers, makes people really mad if you use her, yet not actually the very best character in the game.
    Sounds good to me!

  • @ShadowStitchPlays
    @ShadowStitchPlays 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When's Samus...and Manvel.

  • @MegamikazeMoriko
    @MegamikazeMoriko 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amash is probably the most famous sheik main
    considering that 4 stock comeback

    • @DiscoCokkroach
      @DiscoCokkroach 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      村正3世 With PAL Sheik, no less!

  • @BillT560
    @BillT560 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude, spoilers.

  • @elysianpositron661
    @elysianpositron661 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I main Sheik because it's fun as hell. Fox and Falco are really annoying to control (especially falco) and not fun to play as.

  • @SolidBren
    @SolidBren 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think M2K said that the best shields are Pichu's (for it's character coverage) or Yoshi's (because it is unique and always covers Yoshi, until it breaks).
    Between the best characters though, Sheik's is the best.

    • @lilmich8328
      @lilmich8328 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +SolidBren Yoshi can't even jump out of shield.

    • @SolidBren
      @SolidBren 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, really? I guess if you consider out of shield options, Yoshi's is not so good.
      But, isn't it impossible to shield stab Yoshi (Since it never shrinks, it just goes darker)?

    • @lilmich8328
      @lilmich8328 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SolidBren I feel you. But, I do think that Oos options are possibly the most important thing about it.

    • @SolidBren
      @SolidBren 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah, easily.

    • @jfmhunter375
      @jfmhunter375 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yoshi shield drops for OoS, its basicaly the same thing but you cant grab oos

  • @valleybiitch
    @valleybiitch 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus the Smash community is toxic.

  • @arthurbell9106
    @arthurbell9106 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you PLEASE make more of these, I just got into Melee and could use some help.

  • @CoffeePoints
    @CoffeePoints 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    everyone remember to wishlist kira's game on steam uwu

  • @Benjawin6671
    @Benjawin6671 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    everything is fair with sheik

  • @worldrenownedpsycho4941
    @worldrenownedpsycho4941 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Classic Borp. Why wavedash or l-cancel when you can, you know, not!

  • @horacealexander4146
    @horacealexander4146 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Are You a Peach Player?"

  • @taimaishu99
    @taimaishu99 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    who's flash? at first I was thinking captain jack should be in there cause kdj is, but then I noticed shroomed isnt on there, anywayssss great video! dont mean to complain, just sayin the little things lol
    other things:
    - just checked and falcon got a 1.5 for recovery as well; idk if sheik's should be 1.5 I feel like a 2 would be sufficient lol; idk how recovery is gauged, but recovering after a deep edgeguard is possible for sheik so I feel like that could be a factor (I know its not recovering exactly when on defense, but I mean falcon will kill himself going too deep for the kill often enough)
    - lol hax tier list, not trying to start an argument but it looks like tournament result statistics except jiggs and peach should be switched, but i guess you cant account for the armada factor of skewing things... but then idk axe got pikachu there and amsa with yoshi? not like theres tons of players giving those results and idk where samus is coming from kind of hard to tell, but I guess from a "perfect player" perspective I could see this working out, I wonder if abate vs s2j before the salty suite wouldve changed this up lol

  • @SomeoneWitSkill
    @SomeoneWitSkill 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol so is it wrong that I play Sheik aggressive and not at all the way people normally play her? I don't Shino stall for 20 minutes, I don't really tech chase and if I do I usually do it at max 3 times and after that go off a read, or just go off a read right away. The lamest thing I do with Sheik is edge guard...

  • @MasterNinjaXz
    @MasterNinjaXz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hax... oh Hax. Why did you betray us. And now putting Pikatchu and SAMUS above Falcon? You make me cry man... you really do.

  • @taitaizozo
    @taitaizozo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a bit sad to see that a majority of these comments are complaining about how they got their asses kicked by a Sheik... I main Sheik, and if I go against someone who knows what they're doing, they can kick my ass no problem. Quit complaining if you suck ass at the game.

  • @aguvya
    @aguvya 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome. Please do more of these for the viable characters!

  • @wordoredlink
    @wordoredlink 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No, I'm a Roy player.

    • @wordoredlink
      @wordoredlink 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +squidward.exe has stopped working ツ 1. Losing could help you in the future
      2. I'm pretty good, I'll play Falco on a good day.
      3. I don't play "Tr4sh" as much as I do Melee.
      4. That's just wrong in both ways.

    • @wordoredlink
      @wordoredlink 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +squidward.exe has stopped working ツ That and your Profile had had me laughing for a solid minute...I don't know why.

    • @wordoredlink
      @wordoredlink 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +squidward.exe has stopped working ツ Sooo...We're friends now right?

    • @visionary9672
      @visionary9672 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tri-Volt (Wordoredlink)
      yeee bro all day every day