She WAS in politics, or trying to be, behind the scenes. . And supposed Deep State. Look who was on the board. (Kissinger, ) Also George Schultz. And being hailed by Obama. Look at Soros, gates and Fauci 'wife w the COVID Vaccine. At this level, BIG politics are involved.
I love that the closing attitude is 'oh she was such a rockstar. It's too bad what happened to her.' She's a criminal snake-oil salesman. Don't make it out like it's a case of a good person down on their luck. She was a slime ball.
100% . People died from her fake inaccurate blood tests . So there’s that too . Don’t feel bad for people like this even though the sympathy card is being played . She even went and got pregnant for sympathy facing 20 years ! Cmon people . Of all the bullshit nowadays we need to draw a line and hold people accountable
haha, that was just George being George, his job is to stay and portray positiviness. I can assure you behind the camera he knows that bitch is a.... Slime Ball.
i don’t condone her actions or think they are by any means ethical but i think this story is a really fascinating showcase of how corrupt our healthcare system is at large. the fact that she wasn’t caught sooner and she managed to fool so many people for so long when she truly knew nothing is remarkable and i think there are other people at fault aside from her.
She fooled the health care regulators by using preprogrammed screens/computers and manipulating the people who brought known concentration specimens into leaving the rooms where the device was being used so a different person can come in and get the vials to run it on traditional machines on a different room/floor. The healthcare system is not corrupt in the way you think, this company is the very definitiok of corrupt and fraud.
There were physicians and health care professionals who did not trust Theranos diagnostics. Some are known to have been threatened into silence by Balwani and Holmes. I suspect that the majority of people with medical education considered this technology to be too good to be true.
My father is a medical professional and was telling me about a book somebody wrote about this whole fiasco. Apparently board members and many former employees agree she is extremely manipulative, and was completely irrational to the point of possible mental illness. I’m reading the book when he’s finished, sounds like an insane story.
Bad Blood, it's written by the Wall Street Journal reporter who investigated this company and broke the story. Great story. I couldn't put it down, especially toward the last 1/3 when the reporter entered the story. It became a thriller. The company used top lawyers to threaten whistle blowers and tried to get Rupert Murdoch kill the WSJ story. The book will be made into a movie. Jennifer Lawrence will play Elizabeth Holmes.
She's a A-1 con artist, for sure! But, any lab tech could've told anyone it was a con. Also, it never would've gotten into a hospital setting....3 letters.....FDA.
As of this point, we don't even know, whether she will go to prison at all. And yes, given how many people in the US serve life sentences for non-violent offences, 20 years is obscenely low. Or maybe it is the other way round: A judicial system that sentences minors to life without parole is just sick. No wonder the US is the sole (!) remaining country in the world not to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.
Sonido Ponchis she’s not gonna do much in prison if anything. She’s probably already set for life when everything clears. She has alot of that money stashed somewhere and like they said she gonna start another company but probably gonna be behind the scenes... This is America
@John Hillman it sure does, you can really hear it around 0:55 in this radio interview, she talks normally then catches herself and sounds like a different person: www.podomatic.com/podcasts/technation/episodes/2018-06-25T05_50_34-07_00
@@evalynnetorres7802 Someone has been bothered by her brilliant invention, the idea... some that are powerful.Or She did not share money with other ''engineers'' or this whole project is not suitable because of ''higher goals''! 100% has NO chance that this young, beautiful, smart and intelligent woman is a cheater!
@@Angelica2020 ARE U SERIOUS ??? I DIDNT KNOW THAT...damn....THIS IS SO WEIRD ,,SHE must have seen her dad .the way he "conducts " business and thought that is the way to go but im STILL kinda impressed that a 19 year old dropout could pull this off..SHE raised MILLIONS of dollars and had her device in walgreens and medicare and medicaid chose HER company as the company they wanted to work with..A BLACK WOMAN COULD NOT HAVE PULLED THIS OFF!!!
As a 26 year old entrepreneur, i was looking for inspiring business movies or series to watch. It is now 3 AM, i could not stop binging The Dropout series. I stumbled onto this without diving too deep in the trailers. During episode 1,2 and 3 i was rooting for Elizabeth because the entrepreneurial spirit it takes to overcome obstacles. About 4 episodes in i started hating this woman with every fiber in me. By the time she changed her voice to be more "deep" i was about to pull my hair out. Can you imagine the bone chilling shock i got at the end of episode 8 when they started listing the real-life case updates, it was literally just then that i realized this was a real life event. I am young and not from the US, so i never heard of Theranos or the real Elizabeth. This is insane on a level unimaginable. Elizabeth, you are a disgrace to all Women, Humanity and the entire Entrepreneur Society. The fact that even after all this, you can remain cool about your crimes proves you are a psychopathic monster with alien eyes, a demons hart and an insufferable pretentious voice. I hope justice prevails in honor of all lives lost, families ruined financially or in health. F YOU!
Same, I was watching the Netflix one and just thought about theranos. I don't think they explicitly mentioned it but reminded me of these supposed startups that turn out to be complete frauds
THESE news hacks bought into her BS hook line n sinker and promoted her BS without EVER doing any investigations on what is actually going on or how the testing devices are working!! What kind of journalists are these??!
I remember seeing her on a cover of some magazine. Thinking she's got it all and is super smart but also thinking how the heck did she come up with a technology that did all those tests with a single drop of blood. It was too good to be true.
Hmm, I don't condone what she did, but lemme tell you howmit was when I was a kid and needed to send a telegram. There was this one place in town where we'd go and it would be amazing, we couldn't believe we were receiving messages from our relatives thousands of miles away. Crossing the sea I felt o could smell the ocean . Less than ten years the first portable home cellular phone came out, my dad brought it in a briefcase. He had to give it back because he had noone to call(haha). Then five years later a handheld Nokia. These days I still can believe how much things have improved. Having done some research in the past for some tech companies, I know it is possible. Or will be soon enough, this blood diagnosis thing. Hopefully we'd invest more in health than war.
"She is already seeking money to start her next company." STOP, DON'T LET HER DO IT!!! We first want to either come clean or spend the rest of her life in jail for playing with peoples' lives. A crime is a crime.
It was always a delusion. As an engineer I can tell you that in cases like these you often do not need the back of a napkin to calculate the impossibility. In my career I have several times performed some simple calculations and shown something was not feasible. She had been told by several people that what she was doing was not scientifically possible, but she ignored them. All she was doing was miniaturizing already established processes. If it could be done, the commercial machines she purchased to fake results would have been miniaturized by their engineers. I am not sure she knows how science and engineering work.
> I am not sure she knows how science and engineering work. I am, she doesn't and never did. She succeeded for a while by Bullsh*tt*ng other people who didn't either. The sad thing is the investors never sought expert opinion on whether the technology was possible - and didn't care, as long as they could cash in & get out before it all went sour.
When someone tells you “I don’t lie”, that’s a red flag, they are actually liars. People try to create credibility with words not actions. That’s what we are seeing with her.
“[...] her company was worth 10 billion dollars.” It was _valued_ *by investors and market analysts* at 10 billion, yes. It was worth only the potential of what it could be, and everyone completely overestimated this potential.
3:56 "I think eventually the company would have been a great success if it had been allowed to run" - How could he possibly say that? Their machines simply didn't work, its components interfered with one another due to proximity, blood sample sizes were so small they had to be diluted to give (bad) results, and the company manufactured tests/didn't do any tests at all...so basically, given infinite amount of time, this company would eventually succeed in revolutionizing technology? What? Its like the infinite monkey theorem: "a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type any given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare."
of course he can say that ... He's a slimy defense attorney ... and his final statement of "mistakes being made everyday in medical community is 1. False 2. misleading.. if mistakes are made it is from human ERROR not from technological instruments... slimy douche...
That chick freaks me out. She's like a character out of a King novel. I have the same feeling when I go to a friends house whose wife collects dolls. They never blink and it feels like they all are staring at me.
Nasty human being. She should be in jail for 100 years. She did her best to make money from the most vunerable patients in society. Glad she is found out. Ill gotten gains never prosper. Bye girl :-))
@@depression_isnt_real When she put many lives at risk medically for faulty tests over her greed, she not only should be in prison forever, but a supermax.
1:56 "Not only did they fool investors, they fooled patients, they fooled doctors." They fooled themselves too. It appears that Elizabeth built up a grand narrative about what her life would be, and convinced herself so strongly that she would meet that vision of herself, that she ended up convincing herself that it was all going to work out to support that vision, that self-perception. In the deposition and on the street after it all fell apart, she looks extremely dazed. Like she's woken up from a long dream. It's good to have aspirations but to identify this strongly with them... the damage she's done to others and herself... powerful stuff.
When that Lawyer says that if the company had enough time they would have gotten the tech to work. That is a LIE! The machine would/could Never work the way they were selling it.
If by time they mean 50-75 years of continuing research, may we yes ! He ain’t lying he’s manipulating, eating words. He also said, mistakes happen in medical field. He has worded it to be ambiguous. The results from their machine was literally random. Probably don’t even need blood to do that, just numbers. The accuracy is not existent.
How can Ms Holmes still able to look for new investors for her new project and she has been allowed to move on with her life after the damage what she has done to all this innocent people. Are you kidding me? From WIkipedia "On June 15, 2018, following an investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office in San Francisco that lasted more than two years, a federal grand jury indicted Holmes and former Theranos COO and president Ramesh "Sunny" Balwani on nine counts of wire fraud and two counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Prosecutors allege that Holmes and Balwani engaged in two criminal schemes, one to defraud investors, the other to defraud doctors and patients"
This was painful to watch... Everybody falling for the stare.. and the voice! Whenever someone stares at me like that I know they're up to something. How dumb can you get.
The media should really explore all of the connections to Kissinger, DeVos and family connections to Enron. Maybe she is just the fall gal in a sophisticated investment scheme (scam).
John-Paul Nagel That is the weird thing. She never sold her shares to anyone. She didn’t make a ton of $$. She wasn’t living like Madoff. It seems to be for the accolades. Psychotic.
Her idea was not going to save lives. Her idea is to tell customers without health insurance or customers that want to save money from going to see actual doctor using an over the counter test to test for any diseases or cancers or issues in health by blood droplet test. It was not like her idea was going to cure anything or change the world but, just make more profitable business to take away profits from hospitals.
I watched the documentary about this scam. I was absolutely astonished that she did not say one single concrete thing, not one. the full length of the film She was talk, talk, talk; saying nada ya da ya da. In keeping with this lack of substance, she strolled and yammered through door and after door, which took us nowhere. I became terribly embarrassed for the men who praised her, adored her, thought she was so intelligent. Based on what? Something she said? (I don't know how she did, it, but boy did she ever! To this day, I wonder how and when she realized she had this dubious, astonishing skill-set. When was the turning point when she decided to play it for all it was worth....billions. Until caught.) She gave nothing. Zip. The worm never left the hook. The men in her harem freely talked among themselve about her, so how did it happen that not one of them recognized that the emprincess had no clothes. They enthusiastically agreed that she looked just fab in her new "clothes." Tres chic, very smart. So, they dreamily content themselves by filling the gaps of her story, undaunted that the gaps gaped. A mere abyss. No worries. I think the most unsettling part was that I was forced to acknowledge that old saw that men think with their phalus...all the time. I've thought, well, yes, but only sometimes. I underestimated by only all the time! Had I done what these men did, attribute intelligence, artificially., where it was utterly lacking? Why I believe I did! It appears that I was as delusional as those hapless and hormonal tweens. Stupid is as stupid does.
How come she dropped out without completing any medical degree to set up a company that gambled with the lives of people? It's healthcare. You do not become a professional without completing the degree.
A basic understanding of science is all that was needed to know how ridiculous her claims were. If they claimed one or a few tests could be done with a drop of blood is believable. Claiming 100s can be done is ridiculous.
The business model did not even make sense if it did work. We can already do “panels” of tons of lab tests grouped together pretty cheaply...and this test-everyone-for-everything does more harm than good and is actively discouraged. Even if correct 99.9% of time, 200 plus per person unfocused testing will create a huge amount of false positives, with all the patient stress and added healthcare costs to go with them. For example, in a clinic I worked in, a patient who tested himself for everything was told he had high arsenic levels. After a huge work-up and tons of worry, it turned out to be due to a seafood meal, which can cause arsenic positive tests with no poisoning.
Why do they keep referring to her as „Elizabeth“ in the Clip? If it were about „Zuckerberg“ or „Jobs“, they wouldnt say „Mark“ or „Steve“ either. Another Double Standard of how this woman is described as a victim with good Intentions rather than a simple criminal
My gynecologist got annoyed because I asked for herbal remedies for hot flashes instead of a drug Gabapentin that can cause suicide! I called up an article in her office o TH-cam. The pharmacy lady told me the Sisu product I bought stopped her hot flashes.
If Elizabeth had been using some sort of substance, like too much caffeine or maybe cocaine or something like that, this would be one way to explain how things got out of control. Either she was not thinking like her normal self, be it from sleep deprivation, some substance, or the hypo-manic state that the kind of success she seemed to be having can do to a lot of normal people, either she was not thinking rationally, or she's a sociopath, I believe it has to be one or the other. There are solutions for those things. But she shouldn't be starting a new company until she gets to the bottom of things.
This is what happens when you raise a child to believe they are “special”, hold them accountable for nothing, treat them like an equal and a friend, and do away with corporal punishment.
my god you have hit the nail so directly on the head its refreshing!!! Our generation of parenting (those over 62) have raised generations of delusional solipsistic adults, who have been told they are Geniuses and operate without a conscious ...
Some of the craziest stuff about this today is that she _still_ got to keep some of her awards, got to keep some money, and there are people out there (admittedly mostly women) who think she just got screwed over and still see her as an inspiration... lol.
@@xoxoGossipGirl754322 You're saying there are no women that supported her afterwords? That's like saying there was nobody in the black community who thought OJ was innocent. lol.
Watch all the utube videos about her. You will begin to understand the extent of her grandiosity!!! There is an especially revealing one done at Stamford featuring the two whistle blowers who were Stamford graduates and worked for her. One is Schultz grandson. Both are very smart and impressive with great moral compasses. His strength of resolve in coming up against his grandfather is nothing short of astounding. He never wavered and never had any doubts about what he saw and knew that he saw. I would just hope to think that I would have the moral fortitude to do what he did. I wonder if he was called to testify? He would be a prosecutor’s dream witness. Both obviously were reared with the right set of values.
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Why have I spent my Saturday watching dozens of videos about this woman?
Because its a great story
@@teslermendelovitch oh so true. And nuts. Totally fucking nuts.
ArtemisScribe me too. How did the FDA give this approval??? Why did it take the SEC to catch her lies? That’s what baffles me.
me too, such drama
Hahahahah me too. Watched the Docu. Read the book. And now im here 🤣
She could have tried politics instead. Perfectly cut for it 😊
@@selinayue5208 Say that to her 4 Billion Net worth, very few politicians have that money.
Sad but true 🤔🥺
She WAS in politics, or trying to be, behind the scenes. . And supposed Deep State. Look who was on the board. (Kissinger, ) Also George Schultz. And being hailed by Obama. Look at Soros, gates and Fauci 'wife w the COVID Vaccine. At this level, BIG politics are involved.
She wanted Respect!
Yeah and politicians have enablers and finances too that's how they are frauds for years ruin lives etc.
The gig is up. Someone should tell her it's ok to start using her real voice now.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right!!! OMG!!!
Thought the exact same thing😭 her face does not match her voice iykyk 😂
Her voice obviously sounds fake.
Haha she has to be so deeply embarrassed by that
I love that the closing attitude is 'oh she was such a rockstar. It's too bad what happened to her.' She's a criminal snake-oil salesman. Don't make it out like it's a case of a good person down on their luck. She was a slime ball.
100% . People died from her fake inaccurate blood tests . So there’s that too . Don’t feel bad for people like this even though the sympathy card is being played . She even went and got pregnant for sympathy facing 20 years ! Cmon people . Of all the bullshit nowadays we need to draw a line and hold people accountable
She is a woman and by virtue of that men simp. Some girls simp over mass shooters but never air on tv
The amount of times they said if it was given more time this would have been a success. Isnt that what research and development is for
haha, that was just George being George, his job is to stay and portray positiviness. I can assure you behind the camera he knows that bitch is a.... Slime Ball.
I do think she is a little delusional but if she didn’t choose health care, she would’ve been an iconic ceo In my opinion
Theranos sounds like a company formed by Thanos to destroy the universe
Damn! I made almost the same comment.
Best comment so far
it always makes me laugh when someone says something like that thinking they're belittling the subject, whereas they're just showing their ignorance
Hahaha!
ha ha ha that's a good one
i don’t condone her actions or think they are by any means ethical but i think this story is a really fascinating showcase of how corrupt our healthcare system is at large. the fact that she wasn’t caught sooner and she managed to fool so many people for so long when she truly knew nothing is remarkable and i think there are other people at fault aside from her.
Right? Like all people are talking about how crazy she is but nobody talks about how stupid, broken and corrupt our system is.
yup, typical. place the blame on anyone else but a woman.
She fooled the health care regulators by using preprogrammed screens/computers and manipulating the people who brought known concentration specimens into leaving the rooms where the device was being used so a different person can come in and get the vials to run it on traditional machines on a different room/floor. The healthcare system is not corrupt in the way you think, this company is the very definitiok of corrupt and fraud.
Like how u pay a ton for health insurance....... and then still get more in bills after your doctor appointments that the insurance didn't cover🤔
There were physicians and health care professionals who did not trust Theranos diagnostics. Some are known to have been threatened into silence by Balwani and Holmes. I suspect that the majority of people with medical education considered this technology to be too good to be true.
My father is a medical professional and was telling me about a book somebody wrote about this whole fiasco. Apparently board members and many former employees agree she is extremely manipulative, and was completely irrational to the point of possible mental illness. I’m reading the book when he’s finished, sounds like an insane story.
Bad Blood
Bad Blood, it's written by the Wall Street Journal reporter who investigated this company and broke the story. Great story. I couldn't put it down, especially toward the last 1/3 when the reporter entered the story. It became a thriller. The company used top lawyers to threaten whistle blowers and tried to get Rupert Murdoch kill the WSJ story. The book will be made into a movie. Jennifer Lawrence will play Elizabeth Holmes.
She's a A-1 con artist, for sure! But, any lab tech could've told anyone it was a con. Also, it never would've gotten into a hospital setting....3 letters.....FDA.
SportDiver 2 knows what he’s talking about. I know all his secrets.
Well psychopathy is a mental illness...
Millions of dollars from this and just 20 years in prison? I see people do 20 years for a few $100 bills of coacaine.
Sonido Ponchis really good point 👍
As of this point, we don't even know, whether she will go to prison at all. And yes, given how many people in the US serve life sentences for non-violent offences, 20 years is obscenely low. Or maybe it is the other way round: A judicial system that sentences minors to life without parole is just sick. No wonder the US is the sole (!) remaining country in the world not to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.
It doesnt matter how much it cost, the problem is that it is cocaine
Billions not millions.
Sonido Ponchis she’s not gonna do much in prison if anything. She’s probably already set for life when everything clears. She has alot of that money stashed somewhere and like they said she gonna start another company but probably gonna be behind the scenes... This is America
it is a fake voice - she speaks deeper on purpose
@John Hillman it sure does, you can really hear it around 0:55 in this radio interview, she talks normally then catches herself and sounds like a different person: www.podomatic.com/podcasts/technation/episodes/2018-06-25T05_50_34-07_00
M. G yes we all know that now. She is a fraud.
🤣wouldn't be surprised, that voice sounds as fake as theranos.
Just curious what's the purpose for someone faking their voice such as she has?
@@evalynnetorres7802 Someone has been bothered by her brilliant invention, the idea... some that are powerful.Or She did not share money with other ''engineers'' or this whole project is not suitable because of ''higher goals''! 100% has NO chance that this young, beautiful, smart and intelligent woman is a cheater!
“The woman called the next steve jobs” never heard of her until now
Me too
You live in a hole?
@@MsHantubelau Listen, I gotta bridge for sale...
Who
@@francisvillareal7517 🤷♂️
Her dad was the VP of Enron. I can kind of see where she gets her morals from
Narcissist have no morals.
@DA Westerns? Please the rest of the world fakes it.. 🙄
@DA There is no 60% divorce rate. What a lie
@@Angelica2020 ARE U SERIOUS ??? I DIDNT KNOW THAT...damn....THIS IS SO WEIRD ,,SHE must have seen her dad .the way he "conducts " business and thought that is the way to go but im STILL kinda impressed that a 19 year old dropout could pull this off..SHE raised MILLIONS of dollars and had her device in walgreens and medicare and medicaid chose HER company as the company they wanted to work with..A BLACK WOMAN COULD NOT HAVE PULLED THIS OFF!!!
@@percyastronautstatus.8780 hahaha here we go with the race card. FFS 🤦🏻♂️
She's proven to the whole world that anyone could be a CEO.
Not sure of that, but she has definitely proven that crazy people can be.
A Lot of men did that before her.
And how gullible rich white men are to a young blonde girl
She definitely deserves at least 30 years. Healthcare fraud has to have the highest possible punishment.
She looks like Zuckerberg's robotic twin sister.
Lol
Don't insult Zuckerberg! This B. is a fraud!
@@ms.andrea172 so is zuckerborg.
Andrea B Zuckerberg frauded the Winklevii. It's just that it's more tenuous to make a definitive software ownership claim on generic code.
Omg
She seems to be on the edge of sanity.
A J u mean insanity?
Nathan Ramos I mean leaving sanity and just about entering insanity, yes.
@@nddavi58 🤔😂
It's the eyes! It's the eyes! (sounds a little like something from a horror movie, doesn't it? LOL)
@@sheilaf1946 Lmaoooo your comment reminds me of Edgar Allan Poe's "The Tell Tale Heart"
As a 26 year old entrepreneur, i was looking for inspiring business movies or series to watch. It is now 3 AM, i could not stop binging The Dropout series. I stumbled onto this without diving too deep in the trailers. During episode 1,2 and 3 i was rooting for Elizabeth because the entrepreneurial spirit it takes to overcome obstacles. About 4 episodes in i started hating this woman with every fiber in me. By the time she changed her voice to be more "deep" i was about to pull my hair out. Can you imagine the bone chilling shock i got at the end of episode 8 when they started listing the real-life case updates, it was literally just then that i realized this was a real life event. I am young and not from the US, so i never heard of Theranos or the real Elizabeth. This is insane on a level unimaginable. Elizabeth, you are a disgrace to all Women, Humanity and the entire Entrepreneur Society. The fact that even after all this, you can remain cool about your crimes proves you are a psychopathic monster with alien eyes, a demons hart and an insufferable pretentious voice. I hope justice prevails in honor of all lives lost, families ruined financially or in health. F YOU!
This woman knew that her blood testing equipment didn't work and she went live anyway. This woman is a monster!
Don't drop out of school kids, not everyone can be bill gates. Lesson learned.
especially if you plan to do something in the healthcare sector and build a medical device
Judge : Do you swear to tell the true ?
Holmes: (fake her voice ) I do
Hahahahahahaha that cyborg girl killed me
Her eyes are as large as those of anime characters.
Lol. She is a fraud. Her company was a fraud She should rot in jail
She is free
machines cant broke just like our machines expenders got broke sometimes keeping lots of coins , what fraud ?
0:46 She is totally unrecognizable without the turtleneck.
@@avarageplayer200 Only because the criminal investigation just wrapped up. Once it starts and she'd proven guilty. She could spend 15 to 20 yrs
Her company cure blinking
5 hours of testimony and ABC has to play the same 10 seconds over and over.
Damn. I forgot about her until I saw her mentioned in Fyre Fraud. She really was the media’s darling at her peak.
So many con artists using social media.
Same, I was watching the Netflix one and just thought about theranos. I don't think they explicitly mentioned it but reminded me of these supposed startups that turn out to be complete frauds
@@jxsilicon9 Says how very gullible we are. Sigh
White woman girl boss.
THESE news hacks bought into her BS hook line n sinker and promoted her BS without EVER doing any investigations on what is actually going on or how the testing devices are working!! What kind of journalists are these??!
I remember seeing her on a cover of some magazine. Thinking she's got it all and is super smart but also thinking how the heck did she come up with a technology that did all those tests with a single drop of blood. It was too good to be true.
Hmm, I don't condone what she did, but lemme tell you howmit was when I was a kid and needed to send a telegram. There was this one place in town where we'd go and it would be amazing, we couldn't believe we were receiving messages from our relatives thousands of miles away. Crossing the sea I felt o could smell the ocean . Less than ten years the first portable home cellular phone came out, my dad brought it in a briefcase. He had to give it back because he had noone to call(haha). Then five years later a handheld Nokia. These days I still can believe how much things have improved. Having done some research in the past for some tech companies, I know it is possible. Or will be soon enough, this blood diagnosis thing. Hopefully we'd invest more in health than war.
"She is already seeking money to start her next company." STOP, DON'T LET HER DO IT!!! We first want to either come clean or spend the rest of her life in jail for playing with peoples' lives. A crime is a crime.
It was always a delusion. As an engineer I can tell you that in cases like these you often do not need the back of a napkin to calculate the impossibility. In my career I have several times performed some simple calculations and shown something was not feasible. She had been told by several people that what she was doing was not scientifically possible, but she ignored them. All she was doing was miniaturizing already established processes. If it could be done, the commercial machines she purchased to fake results would have been miniaturized by their engineers. I am not sure she knows how science and engineering work.
She probably thought they were wrong and her stubbornness would end up proving them wrong.
If you watch the dropout, she’s not involved in the science of the device she developed. She just came up with the idea and hired people.
> I am not sure she knows how science and engineering work.
I am, she doesn't and never did. She succeeded for a while by Bullsh*tt*ng other people who didn't either.
The sad thing is the investors never sought expert opinion on whether the technology was possible - and didn't care, as long as they could cash in & get out before it all went sour.
Shes got that constant doe eyed + uncanny valley look to her.
US which means it’s no fkn way she’s getting 20 years.
That would be the look of a true sociopath.
That's the look of not having any morals whatsoever.
Quite scary really.
She resembles a troll doll.
When someone tells you “I don’t lie”, that’s a red flag, they are actually liars. People try to create credibility with words not actions. That’s what we are seeing with her.
“[...] her company was worth 10 billion dollars.” It was _valued_ *by investors and market analysts* at 10 billion, yes. It was worth only the potential of what it could be, and everyone completely overestimated this potential.
And in reality it was worth $10.00
3:56 "I think eventually the company would have been a great success if it had been allowed to run" - How could he possibly say that? Their machines simply didn't work, its components interfered with one another due to proximity, blood sample sizes were so small they had to be diluted to give (bad) results, and the company manufactured tests/didn't do any tests at all...so basically, given infinite amount of time, this company would eventually succeed in revolutionizing technology? What? Its like the infinite monkey theorem: "a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type any given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare."
Your comments are spot on.
I love your comment!
of course he can say that ... He's a slimy defense attorney ... and his final statement of "mistakes being made everyday in medical community is 1. False 2. misleading.. if mistakes are made it is from human ERROR not from technological instruments... slimy douche...
She is not only forcing her voice, also her blinking, she usually never blinks but here she does in order to appear more trustable
That chick freaks me out. She's like a character out of a King novel. I have the same feeling when I go to a friends house whose wife collects dolls. They never blink and it feels like they all are staring at me.
Nasty human being. She should be in jail for 100 years. She did her best to make money from the most vunerable patients in society. Glad she is found out. Ill gotten gains never prosper. Bye girl :-))
Point or order, she lost all her money when Theranos went down, she never sold her shares
Hate your name. Change it
@@robertromero9488 u suck
@@depression_isnt_real When she put many lives at risk medically for faulty tests over her greed, she not only should be in prison forever, but a supermax.
1:56 "Not only did they fool investors, they fooled patients, they fooled doctors."
They fooled themselves too. It appears that Elizabeth built up a grand narrative about what her life would be, and convinced herself so strongly that she would meet that vision of herself, that she ended up convincing herself that it was all going to work out to support that vision, that self-perception. In the deposition and on the street after it all fell apart, she looks extremely dazed. Like she's woken up from a long dream. It's good to have aspirations but to identify this strongly with them... the damage she's done to others and herself... powerful stuff.
Lock her up. You know you are dealing with someone dangerous when they lie under oath. She is a liar. She has No remorse and continues to lie.
Everyone: -
Elizabeth Holmes: 🧿👄🧿💉
Zuckerber and Holmes compete at who says the most “I don’t know” when they’re under Oath.
When that Lawyer says that if the company had enough time they would have gotten the tech to work. That is a LIE! The machine would/could Never work the way they were selling it.
If by time they mean 50-75 years of continuing research, may we yes ! He ain’t lying he’s manipulating, eating words. He also said, mistakes happen in medical field. He has worded it to be ambiguous. The results from their machine was literally random. Probably don’t even need blood to do that, just numbers. The accuracy is not existent.
How can Ms Holmes still able to look for new investors for her new project and she has been allowed to move on with her life after the damage what she has done to all this innocent people. Are you kidding me?
From WIkipedia "On June 15, 2018, following an investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office in San Francisco that lasted more than two years, a federal grand jury indicted Holmes and former Theranos COO and president Ramesh "Sunny" Balwani on nine counts of wire fraud and two counts of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Prosecutors allege that Holmes and Balwani engaged in two criminal schemes, one to defraud investors, the other to defraud doctors and patients"
It's just like Richard Dick Fuld from Lehman Brothers, he has a new fund already, and I can't believe anyone in finance will still work with him.
How in the world could any pharmacy, drug company, or board member throw money at someone who has absolutely no medical experience???? Insane.
Are they dummies or real people behind in the studio 🤔🤔?
Dummies
Sapan Mishra both
Real dummies
@Jasiel Rosas Almeida 38 likes 436 dislikes. I made it 437 for ya, you're welcome. Trash music.
At one time before Covid, GMA had a live audience.
This was painful to watch...
Everybody falling for the stare.. and the voice!
Whenever someone stares at me like that I know they're up to something.
How dumb can you get.
Can You Imagine? Lying for Financial Gain!
I Would Never Believe it:)
Some great science can only be proven many many years later. Some brilliant scientists were misunderstood for many years for their great works
The media should really explore all of the connections to Kissinger, DeVos and family connections to Enron. Maybe she is just the fall gal in a sophisticated investment scheme (scam).
Indeed. Who would do that? I don't remember it ever happening before.
MrJamberee lol
John-Paul Nagel That is the weird thing. She never sold her shares to anyone. She didn’t make a ton of $$. She wasn’t living like Madoff. It seems to be for the accolades. Psychotic.
Her idea was not going to save lives. Her idea is to tell customers without health insurance or customers that want to save money from going to see actual doctor using an over the counter test to test for any diseases or cancers or issues in health by blood droplet test. It was not like her idea was going to cure anything or change the world but, just make more profitable business to take away profits from hospitals.
I can remember when CNBC was fawning all over Thanos
Thanos 😂😂😂
Thanos hahahahaha....Cant wait for the next Avengers.
CNBC is a scam itself.
Thanos is a comic book villain
@@ruprechtmboy7921 yes
I watched the documentary about this scam. I was absolutely astonished that she did not say one single concrete thing, not one. the full length of the film She was talk, talk, talk; saying nada ya da ya da. In keeping with this lack of substance, she strolled and yammered through door and after door, which took us nowhere. I became terribly embarrassed for the men who praised her, adored her, thought she was so intelligent. Based on what? Something she said? (I don't know how she did, it, but boy did she ever! To this day, I wonder how and when she realized she had this dubious, astonishing skill-set. When was the turning point when she decided to play it for all it was worth....billions. Until caught.)
She gave nothing. Zip. The worm never left the hook. The men in her harem freely talked among themselve about her, so how did it happen that not one of them recognized that the emprincess had no clothes. They enthusiastically agreed that she looked just fab in her new "clothes." Tres chic, very smart. So, they dreamily content themselves by filling the gaps of her story, undaunted that the gaps gaped. A mere abyss. No worries.
I think the most unsettling part was that I was forced to acknowledge that old saw that men think with their phalus...all the time. I've thought, well, yes, but only sometimes. I underestimated by only all the time! Had I done what these men did, attribute intelligence, artificially., where it was utterly lacking? Why I believe I did! It appears that I was as delusional as those hapless and hormonal tweens.
Stupid is as stupid does.
How come she dropped out without completing any medical degree to set up a company that gambled with the lives of people?
It's healthcare. You do not become a professional without completing the degree.
I'm obsessed with this case somehow.
How do we watch the full testimony?
How could she get passed the medical community? HOW WAS THAT POSSIBLE?!😲😳
Money
Read the book…bad blood. Explains it all
Does she ever blink?
This is an actor trick. Dont blink while camera is rolling
Yeah sometimes
Say what you like about her, this woman is a master of illusion with a power to persuade anyone.
Maybe to people without discernment. I could tell in 30 secs from her eyes and fake voice that she has a mental illness.
Everyone who supported her and wrote glowing stories about her should also be charged
That's silly. You don't charge journalists just because they believed her!!
"When we asked if why you dropped out of Stanford was to save peoples lives was true, the lie detector determined THAT was a lie."
The amount of manipulation she's done is just mind blowing
She is a narcissistic exemplification of the Sea Word
Elizabeth Holmes is the greatest Boston Dynamics creation ever!
“We are the only lab company focused on transparency” LOL
Now she's playing dumb.
How anyone thought at 19 she was some experienced genius is beyond me!!!!!!!!!! I would never have bought that BS……………….
Of course Jim Cramer supported this !!!
She has those "I have no soul behind my eyes..." eyes that sociopaths typically have.
She’s either a sociopath or psychopath
Sociopath!
or..both
What is the difference?
or a dude..
A Sociopath, is not in diagnostics.
She would never talk about the science; only lofty platitudes about “passion”
E. Holmes needs to rot in jail for playing with patients lives.
A basic understanding of science is all that was needed to know how ridiculous her claims were. If they claimed one or a few tests could be done with a drop of blood is believable. Claiming 100s can be done is ridiculous.
damn that's a deep voice,thats a dude!
IT’S MAAM!!
It’s not a dude she just faking it
John Iii I think I see an adam🍎lol
Jasiel Rosas Almeida What the heck? How is this related?
I know she had balls to do what she did!
Elizabeth: *I dont know anything.*
Dropout to inmate. What a touching story
The business model did not even make sense if it did work. We can already do “panels” of tons of lab tests grouped together pretty cheaply...and this test-everyone-for-everything does more harm than good and is actively discouraged. Even if correct 99.9% of time, 200 plus per person unfocused testing will create a huge amount of false positives, with all the patient stress and added healthcare costs to go with them. For example, in a clinic I worked in, a patient who tested himself for everything was told he had high arsenic levels. After a huge work-up and tons of worry, it turned out to be due to a seafood meal, which can cause arsenic positive tests with no poisoning.
Unleashing a torrent of positives was the least of her concerns.
It makes me wonder how she could manipulate so many experts in her field. If it were men, I might have an idea.
Im pretty sure someone does voiceovers for her
Too good to be true often is just that.
Too good of a story.
Crazy how they gave her a so much exposure before they figured it out lol
Why do they keep referring to her as „Elizabeth“ in the Clip? If it were about „Zuckerberg“ or „Jobs“, they wouldnt say „Mark“ or „Steve“ either. Another Double Standard of how this woman is described as a victim with good Intentions rather than a simple criminal
She needs to go to jail.
Along with 99% of people in the pharmaceutical industry and medical device industry.
My gynecologist got annoyed because I asked for herbal remedies for hot flashes instead of a drug Gabapentin that can cause suicide! I called up an article in her office o TH-cam. The pharmacy lady told me the Sisu product I bought stopped her hot flashes.
There was probably like....10's of tests !!!
she has no clue...
Psychopaths sometimes come in pretty packages!
If Elizabeth had been using some sort of substance, like too much caffeine or maybe cocaine or something like that, this would be one way to explain how things got out of control. Either she was not thinking like her normal self, be it from sleep deprivation, some substance, or the hypo-manic state that the kind of success she seemed to be having can do to a lot of normal people, either she was not thinking rationally, or she's a sociopath, I believe it has to be one or the other. There are solutions for those things. But she shouldn't be starting a new company until she gets to the bottom of things.
This is what happens when you raise a child to believe they are “special”, hold them accountable for nothing, treat them like an equal and a friend, and do away with corporal punishment.
my god you have hit the nail so directly on the head its refreshing!!! Our generation of parenting (those over 62) have raised generations of delusional solipsistic adults, who have been told they are Geniuses and operate without a conscious ...
The woman is a vampire, and no one loves blood more than a vampire.
Wow! That's a great transformation, into a plain simple girl.
Shane brought me hereeee! Who else?!
Hellurr
What video?
@@marie-nm9jo a tweet
@@dootdoot94xo44 Oh happy to hear that, you wouldn't have understood 9 months ago
03:35 Those eyes tell a story 😳
Never trust a company that's two letters away from "Thanos".
"I'm Batman"
I love when people talk about her voice in each of the youtube videos she is in.
Some of the craziest stuff about this today is that she _still_ got to keep some of her awards, got to keep some money, and there are people out there (admittedly mostly women) who think she just got screwed over and still see her as an inspiration... lol.
Last part of your comment is as valid as Theranos working
@@xoxoGossipGirl754322 You're saying there are no women that supported her afterwords? That's like saying there was nobody in the black community who thought OJ was innocent. lol.
She dropped out of school because she wasn't that smart, just slick and sly!
Not guilty???? She is deluded!
3:44 Sunny: one small step
Lawyers: you are the boss
The facts are her machines would never ever work as what they were trying to do is totally impossible
It’s super weird that they have viewers in the background of their set.
"You swear to say the truth": YES (with a fake voice)
*Nothing will happen to her. America never punishes top corrupt persons in an extensive way.*
The Other Side that is true lol
She looks scared. Hope she goes to prison.
She looks more menacing to me, like she'd shank you in the face if you were telling her how shitty of a person she is alone in a room.
LOCK HER UP LOCK HER UP
Watch all the utube videos about her. You will begin to understand the extent of her grandiosity!!!
There is an especially revealing one done at Stamford featuring the two whistle blowers who were Stamford graduates and worked for her. One is Schultz grandson. Both are very smart and impressive with great moral compasses. His strength of resolve in coming up against his grandfather is nothing short of astounding. He never wavered and never had any doubts about what he saw and knew that he saw. I would just hope to think that I would have the moral fortitude to do what he did. I wonder if he was called to testify? He would be a prosecutor’s dream witness. Both obviously were reared with the right set of values.
I would pay to watch her entire deposition. Please put it on PPV.
I don’t trust any woman who leaves her hair tucked into her collar like that smh
Ok. When is it going to prison!
NEVER!!
If I made a billion, I would never end up in some room speaking on the record answering questions. No one would ever see me again. 🤙🏽
Look at them eyes 👀 you can tell she lying about something omg 😂