Can You TURBO a NA Barra? Dyno Tune & Power Numbers | TURBO Your NA Barra Pt 9
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- Dyno and tune time for the NA + Turbo Barra Conversion in my BA Falcon.
Let’s see what power this budget, entry level setup can make, after all work up till now has been done by a hack in his home garage.
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00:00 - Coming Up
01:28 - Drag Racing Date
02:03 - New Giveaway
02:46 - Intro, Concerns & Mods
07:56 - Dyno Time
09:15 - Power Numbers
10:14 - More Power and Next Mods?
11:42 - Giveaway Winner (Dyno Number Comp)
12:07 - First Hard Drive & Impressions
14:44 - One Last Issue!?
16:38 - Building Boost Launch Test
17:32 - Outro - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
We have been back to Heathcote Park Raceway now, so time guesses have closed. New video will be out soon to show what time we ran and announce the winner, and thanks to all those who entered!
about time someone has gone deep into a na turbo setup
Thanks very much mate, glad you’ve enjoyed. Don’t forget to check out some of the other guys if you haven’t, Ross Holland and Old Skool Only to name a couple (hopefully I got their names right!)
@@BrowneysGarage yeah bro will do, I'm looking at doing a SC or turbo setup on my Sy 05 territory and majority of stuff applies to the territory so these vids are interesting
The territory is my first na Barra lol so it needs boost badly
If I’m slower to reply to comments than normal, it’s because I’m away on holidays getting fatter and probably sunburnt!
Hope you enjoy the video and I’ll try get back to everyone when I can 👍
Well deserved holiday Mate
Enjoy ur Holliday yes thx always enjoy b series videos
If your car isn't set up for 1/4 mile times, base its capability on mph
I’m at 173rwkw with mild mods on a n/a Barra 182. Great engine! Basically current level petrol engine tech (dual vvti level, Honda I-Vtec level) from a car built in 2005 once I got the bf cam control flashed into it. 13.15 is my guess
Awesome to see more NA turbos being done, i made 411kw at the hubs on mine and wasn't able to kill it!
Don’t give me bad ideas 🤣
How’s it going now? Is it still viable?
@@EthanD19 never had a problem with it man, a good tuner is crucial ! I pulled the engine out to start setting up my 180sx and since then engines been built and aiming for 1000+ we pulled the sump to have a look and it still looked new !
@@Wintersgarage_ this makes me believe in my current one that I want to do. Engine has ~260psi across all cyl BF Mk2 fairmont and I want to turbo swap it and run it safely through the ZF. If it were you … well did you trust it as a daily? Those skinny rods.
Thanks for replying btw.
Great video Browney, am in the process of converting my ba and have been following your vids as a guide, keep it up hope the car goes well on the strip and is good fun for you in the meantime
Thanks very much Kai and hope yours goes as smoothly as possible - it never goes 100% smoothly though!
Great work mate, well done
Love it mate, stoked that she's been run up solid. With that torque I'd say you might just get into the 13.9 range.
Not sure we’ll get there still but I can hope!
Awesome stuff!! Great to see it running and tuned.
Hard to guess the numbers as it was on a different dyno but I reckon 14.515@101.35 will be close to the mark.
Great to be finally driving it hard!
Different dyno but numbers seem to be pretty fair to the old one so a good indication anyway. You may be around the money there, let’s see!
14.069 Well done mate!
Mother trucker that made it WAY faster off the line!! Very happy for you man, I’m going to go for 14.12 I hope it’s under though!!
Should help a bit, fingers crossed 👍
Loving the build keen to see more of your e series. Reckon she'll push 13.543
13.851.
Great work on the project!
Love the work Browney!! My guess is that it'll do a 13.955 at the drags
Great job
On my xr6t with a BF2 turbo motor, it was recently retuned. 10psi maxing out stock injectors and pump with a throttle limit, it's making 248.3rwkw at about 5k revs, and nearly 700nm at 2600 rpm.
well worth the wait. hoping it is quicker than a factory turbo at about 14.2 my guess with you building boost on the line ( once i got the handle of it on my BA turbo I went from 12.8 to 12.4) 13.96. either way shes way more fun aye. im all in for you showing the track uncle Rodney so yep lets see it tuned to 250RWKW
Very nice car dude , My factory turbo is the same "Envi green" colour and even had the same wheels (factory option from new)-wheels got work-hardened around 350,000km and the motor now is up to a shade over 407,000km without being opened. Mines a BA2 turbo "bitza" according to Fraud NZ, has later motor in it apparently but no real telling without pulling the thing apart.
i made a custom Snorkel into the airbox under the headlight and its had the same washable air filter in for 15 yrs-extra intake made a world of difference by the way. It was doing 1000 km a week open road, driving until about seven years ago when I had to retire a medical grounds, which wasn't such a bad thing because my 2005 with 407km on it will now have time to gain some value as the years catch up with the kilometres lol. Every single suspension and differential bush and joint has been changed and drives like a brand-new car. Only people I let near it are fraud nz since I'm not able to work on it, myself any more, but they tell me it drives better than any of the new stuff. Specially since I did all the suspension bushes and joints. Being retired even more this year as I'm going to be using my new transit Mobility van-couldn't get the M sport one, so I am looking at a tune from Europe to get me the same power-Oh yes, and turn off that totally pointless ad blue system. Look after the barras boys, the yanks and euro's are onto them and they are starting to get pretty scarce! Probably more F6 Typhoon's around phone stock B series turbo's!. I love the idea of taking the Na or Gas motor and building a turbo motor from scratch, Fraud Aussie did us a big favour keeping certain things common just a shame they never made it a crate engine-I reckon one Would easily be persuaded to go in the front of the transit lol.
Firstly I must say a huge thank you for the hoodie and T shirt. They are great quality too! The hoodie is awesome and by chance I am wearing it now. Turned up perfectly to keep me warm for this cold snap. I'll try the T shirt in the warmer weather. If I didn't win these I was going to at least buy a hoodie. Very pleased with guessing the power.
I'll have a go at the 1/4 mile time and reckon you'll crack the 13's with a 13.987. I wouldn't know the speed though. I'll see if I can make it up to see you race it. Would be good to meet you too. Enjoy your break and Thanks again!
Wait you were going to buy one? Send it back! 🤣 No glad you’re enjoying it and it’s getting worn - you freaking nailed that power figure guess.
Thanks very much for the ongoing support and maybe we’ll meet out at Heatcote - pray for no rain!
Thanks for the very informative video mate.
Im considering doing this to my 07 Futura wagon to help with heavy towing duties. I'm not interested in 0-100 or quarter mile times, I simply want a heap more low rpm torque.
It's either this or engine swap for factory turbo motor.
Love your work Browney! Im thinking 13.4. Good luck brother.
Thanks very much mate 👍
14.55 Sec
@98.50MPH
Really love the videos mate watched all your falcon videos
Legend, thanks very much mate. More to come 👍
I think you're in the mindset to squeeze a little bit more from it so might as well do the injectors and boost controller. Been an awesome build so far
Think it would happen one day. Really want to play with getting a turbo ECU in and working, should be very doable and change it up a lot! Thanks mate
@@BrowneysGarage ive looked into it alot and it seems like a bit of work. you will need to get the BA Turbo ECU, loom, ABS module and TCM ideally all from the same car. if theyre not from the same car as the ECU you need to get the ABS module programmed to the ECU (which ive read can be done with forscan ) then will need to get the TCM paired with the ECU which your tuner could do
Great vid mate. I reckon she'll go a 14.2.
I put a Vortech V2 on my old BA XT ex police duty car.
You can make good power & torque easily & safely if you arent chasing Horsepower Heros level of power (307kw on a stock unopened bottom end, with only cams & oil pump done on my old Barra 180). Besides the supercharger kit, the only mods i did were:
Cams
Oil pump
Engine oil cooler (thermostat style).
I had a lot of fun in my BA, ran some good times, made good safe power, great cruiser, regular engine services & TLC= reliable car
Damn good power mate, guessing the supercharger helped ramp it in slower too. Great bang for buck by the sounds of it, and you’re definitely not helping me want to keep going for more!
Hey mate, killa video! My prediction is it will go 14.22 down the 1/4 mile
Awsome job mate my track time guess 14 second mark ever way its awsome progress
awesome
Ayyy Maxx performance 💪🏽
As always another great Vid.
Here's to a 14.153 second pass
Done well matey.well i almost got the kllawatts right lol cheers to whowver gor the merch..ok lets try again 13.9 sec on the strip.. Keep the great vids rollin Browney...John..Willaura..😎
Nearly had it mate! Thanks and good luck John!
Loving the build I recon it’ll do 14.11
Hey Browney love your vids mate I reckon she will run a blistering 13.895 Send It 😁
sent👌🤙
my daily was a 300kw n/a+t and was probably the nicest daily i’ve had, extremely responsive i found
was that a ba,bf or fg man ? and how long has it been at that power ? annd what fuel did you run it on ? keen to get mine done soon
Would be a tonne of fun mate, maybe we’ll get there one day 👍
@@lazyaz2750 BF1 fairmont ghia and was tuned 2019 before christmas made 307kw @12 psi on BP98 with a pulsar GTX3582, id recommend to change to a surge bc AFRs keep leaning out when you hold it flat for too long with a single 460
@@rain1173 dam I'm 306kw 12psi on 98 fuel, we are pretty much identical power but I have a pulsar S363 turbo on mine. My motor is 100% stock I haven't changed anything in the engine
13.611 had to revise my times forgot about the cars weight lol. keep up the great vids
awesome vids mate! inspired me to do the same to my NA BF XR6 😃 keep it up ! 🤙 my guess is 13.869 🤙
Start parts collecting! 👍 It’s been a fun series, but more to come yet.
I reckon 14.247, good to see another upload on this build love to see it
Thanks mate, could be around the money there 👍
my bf xr6 turbo zf 6 speed valve springs 1000cc injectors 4'' dump pipe walbro intank fuel pump plazmaman stage 2 intercooler STOCK BOTTOM END 320rwkw 680nm of torque and a lot of fun to drive
That would be a lot of fun, and some really nice gear there. More and more people giving me bad ideas on the stock bottom end!
Well done mate, great results so far!!! I'd tend to be on the conservative side of things considering those spaghetti rods - I'd just sort out the boost controller (probably with a turbo ECU) and call it a day (with your stock engine). If you want to chase higher power output, the NA LPi engine has the same rods as the turbo engine!!👍
A great series of videos with heaps of details on the "why"!!!
Looking forward into seeing your results at the track as well as what you've got installed for us next!!!👌
LPI has the same thin rods......LPG has the thicker BF onwards turbo rods.
Conservative side may go out the window if we go for more, but I’ve got it to a point that we can enjoy it for a bit now and experience this level.
Thanks for watching along and the kind words mate 👍
Lpi is skinny rods
Guessing 14.4.
Done well; enjoyed the series so far.
Thanks for watching along mate and good luck. Hope you enjoy what we have to come 👍
Hey Browney, love the videos mate I’m guessing a 13.96 🤙
Really great job putting it together please do valve springs before turning it up you can hire the valve spring tool.
Yep, think this will be on the list this time if/when it happens. Thanks mate!
Well done on a nice budget build.
14.26 secs @ 101 mph
Thanks mate, and good luck 👍
Great job Browny.
Your video’s are all ways excellent and very informative.
What was the 0-100 figure you have been able to get out of it with the new setup?
That seems to me to be the gain you can use everyday.
Thanks in advance for your efforts
Thanks Steven. Very good point, not something I believe I have from the NA or Turbo set up yet but maybe something I can look at.
Have a Dragy there I could have a go with, one hesitation however would be that people will immediately compare that to factory quoted/magazine figures - those are normally in perfect conditions with testers that have NO regard for the car surviving haha
Browney top vid as always!!! 🍻👍 Gonna go 13.997 break the 13's !!! Spewing I can't make it on the 3/7 the esky would have looked good with a Browney on it
Thanks Daniel! Not sure we’ll get there but you never know, I’m going to give it hell trying.
Let’s see if there’s any left after the day 😉
Hey Browney,
Excellent video as usual mate,
My guess for the 1/4 mile is 13.712
Unfortunately I won’t see you there as I’m in WA 😁👍
Not sure we’ll make 13’s this time but I can hope 👍. Thanks very much mate
Love your work bro!
I'm going to be doing a turbo set-up on my fg g6e but want to change the rods before i go abit to crazy, what would you guys recommend about getting new rods ?
Fg g6e 2009 model.
Great channel Brownie very helpful what is the go with the oil pump on the Barra I herd they needed to be up graded too or is that only on the older Barra engine.
I just did a turbo conversion on my 06 bf falcon, made 306kw on 12psi and it's 100% stock motor I didnt do any valve springs or oil pump etc, I love the power but not the gas bill as it's my daily and I cant help but hit boost and listen to the wastegate screamer haha. Next mod is getting my 4spd gearbox built
Damn mate, impressive power on all stock engine. Run it down the strip at all?
And not surprised you can’t help yourself! 🤣
gd wrk
Hi Browny good luck Sunday at the track
Thanks mate, think the video will be a cracker!
So cool. She's come a long way. Be awesome to see your older Falcon get some mods - lsd?
Thanks, getting there. It will definitely get mods, can’t leave anything alone 🤣
now its as fast as a stock xr8 good job haha!
13.869 second quarter.
13.777 Good luck!
Live the vids, wish I had the funds to do mine.
My guess will be 13.623
Get a good launch and I reckon you should get a 13.789. Floor it buddy.
wild guess and say 13.9
Been an enjoyable series.. you have inspired me to do something similar!
My guess is 13.911 👌
It’s been a lot of fun to make. Parts may be getting a little harder to come by but sure there’s still plenty about.
@@BrowneysGarage very true. B series parts are surprisingly difficult to find in good nick.
Maybe we can do a na+t comparo.. mines a BF xr6 with a ZF..
'Fat kid with a cupcake' I'm proud to get a mention 😅😅
I should bring my completely stock (cough cough) road bike down for a race on the quarter 🤣
Nar way to cold for me but I do want a toolbox sticker.
Great camera placement in car to avoid the speedo as well 😅 Another great video man, no idea about times just go 13 flat.
It’s ok, who doesn’t love cake! 🤣
At least you can’t embarrass me on a ‘stock’ bike then! Just hope we don’t get postponed with bloody rain.
Camera placement was accidental at first, but will be a common place now I think!
Thanks for a more chill motoring box walk through where it's not some adhd bloke vlogging and blasting loud rap trap crap over everything
If calls to action made power you'd have 900 rwkw
265hp and 12.980 1/4 102mph
I’m doing my fg conversion aswell! My guess is 14.117
Good luck with it mate, has been heaps of fun on this one 👍
Those old school pull the air filter out and cutting a piece of the gate spring to try find tune 😂😂 fuck I miss being broke and not having a fukn clue what we were doing and no bloody TH-cam to help us we had to go to the library to use the internet and read forum chats 😂
Hey brownie nice videos
How I can fix my beake light issue ad I check fuse and changed both brake globe as well.
Guide me on it.
It's much appreciated
TIA
NFI what you will do on the quater, but i am looking forward to the vid 👍
Thanks mate, I can’t wait just to get back out for a few runs regardless of the result, good fun!
Awesome series I have just found and watched I’m gonna guess 13.836
Thanks very much mate, and good luck 👍
Bronwyn I think it’s going to go 14.2.
Good luck buddy
Thanks heaps Grant, good luck mate 👍
Did you get ceramic paint protection in the thumbnail your car looks absolutely amazing
Thanks very much mate but the camera does hide a lot, she’s getting a little rough in person unfortunately. I’d be too scared of taking more paint off!
Yeeewww 14.21
13.56 1/4 🤙🤙
I have similar goals for an NA FG motor -- one big problem is I'm across the world from you at this time -- the engine is going into a 2000 Mustang and I'm also a newb to doing anything with a turbocharger. I've literally purchased nothing for the build yet so I'd be very interested in your recommendations if you could possibly spare some time.
1/4mile time I'm guessing around 14.250 @98.75mph
Valve float at top end
Do the ba xr6t 4fa come out the factory with and LSD? Thanks
14.1
Nice job editing! I reckon about 14.483
Thanks mate, good amount of time in editing this one so hopefully it was worth it! And doesn’t look like a complete amateur edited it, cause he did
Mistake was the small FG turbo,they just don't work as well on B series especially on stock intercooler/intake piping.
Im guessing 14.010.
8mpg, that's not petrol that's an EV, mines sitting right on 😒 41...
Great stuff Browney 🤙
Jesus 41 l/100kms!? You’re either bloody hard on it or dragging a road train? 🤣
@@BrowneysGarage that's the worst part i might punch it a couple of times, but i try to drive smooth and not racing around, it's just a really crap tune, cant get it booked in anywhere to fix it, i did some engine work because it was sitting at 20/100 (burnt valve)
14.40 for the new setup
Oooosh
14.386 but I hope you get into the 13s.
Thanks and I can dream, but I think your guess may be closer to the money for now. We'll find out soon!
I'm putting a sprintex supercharger on my Toyota 86 in a couple of weeks.
I have all the same concerns you have about the stock engine surviving boost.
At least it’s only a HEAP of money and time away from being fixed if it doesn’t survive 🤣. Sorry, I’m sure it’ll be fine. Good luck with it mate, should be well worth it.
@@BrowneysGarage Thanks for the reminder about the money involved (shhh the wife doesn’t know how much) I would love to fit it all myself but that voids any warranty. The 1st test drive will be a 150km trip from Gold Coast back to home.
Hope you and Mrs Browney enjoyed your holiday.
13.923
Mo powah
Browny I'm guessing Low 13s Mate
13.846
12.8 on the drag strip
13.726
14.015
My guess is it’ll do a 13.7 to 13.9 depending on conditions and if the btr doesn’t do btr things
BTR things as in slow shifts - covered, long first gear - let’s hope it gets up and going better than last time at least 🤣
14.124
im cut, my na turbo made 212rwk but 593mn hehe
Does that mean yours has better control of boost spikes/surges though? I’d take that as a trade off haha
I think you’re gonna run on the quarter-mile 11.234 👍👍
I wish mate, not this time unfortunately - maybe one day.
13.5seconds!
I haven't watched any earlier episodes but i will have to start at the beginning and make my way through, i have a na series 2 ba xr6 and want to turbo it i have been slow collecting parts but still need a few i already picked up a himount turbo manifold and got a new ebay turbo but i think i went a bit big and can't exactly recall the size of the turbo but it's a big bugger anyway all i wanted to know was if that's a totally stock internally motor, also though about saving up some coin and getting a f6 tyfoon motor and building on that
Completely stock internal engine on this, not even valve springs.
Thanks for watching mate.
@@BrowneysGarage thanks mate hopefully i can pull it off without to many issues
13.690
13.78