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As a community, we had this coming and, honestly, deserve it. It stopped being about the cards, art, and collection long ago. Money this and sealed collection that and ES to the moon! Pokemon tried to give us 1-2 SIR per box and yall complained because "pulls too easy, value is too low". Like OMG buy some stocks. TPCI are probably laughing because only modern is "safe" and they already got theirs with vintage. If you love Pokemon, you can forget the FO, accept that you MO'd and enjoy whatever generation you started with. Sheesh.
When a streamer / rapper drops $1,000,000 and resells all the packs with cards that have - EV and then tells his rich friends and they drop 100k, 500k, another 1m…then it’s ruined quickly and it’ll happen very soon.
@@DragonRollYumYum Customer puts their item into a team bag and a void sticker AND they give additional void sticker. Then the company does the scan, and sends the item back. If the seal is broken, you know it's been tampered with.
Honestly I think this actually benefits TPCi because it now forces people to buy from them directly instead of resellers. They do not care about resellers or the value of old packs, they’re trying to sell the newest sets. So this will cause people to buy the newest sets directly from them because that guarantees they haven’t been scanned lol
People have been doing this for decades. It's just at this doing so many people are doing it that it's not a secret anymore. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
It juat went viral. The fact it has been done for a LONG TIME in all caps like everyone is dumb for worrying shows how little you understand about the world. This becoming well known is a big problem. The amount of money people have is stupid. I’m an online business owner, this would absolutely be worth it to me to just set up in my garage. If .1% of packs were impacted now it will be wayyyy worse. Good luck thinking “it’s been done for a long time, not a big deal bc people know now” It is, and it’s much worse now that we all know. If I can afford this without blinking an eye we have a huge problem now.
@@LavaDude It's the same with PSA or grading. In the past people were grading only special, high end cards or rare ones. With 2019 covid boom for grading, people started sending casually any common junk they can think of. In 90% of cases the cost of grading is not worth it for those cards. The same will be applied here. There'll be abundance of idiots who will scan modern, like Twilight Masquarade to hit Greninja even though it will be a loss to them. People who think it'll only affect the vintage are naive.
Mr Jones. Can you scan my pack please. Company, Yes, send it in. Scan card, top hit inside. Company, here's the results, appears to be nothing in it, we will send it back. Picks crap scanned pack off the shelf and sends it back. Have fun with that!
And some dump guys think that adding a plastic "seal with number" on a sticker will prevent them from doing so LMAO. Yeah sure, it's 2024, plastic seals as a stickers are sooooo hard to replicate. Can they be even more stupid?
The problem isn't just with Pokemon cards. Predatory business practices and scams have erupted in the last 10 years. Everybody is trying to rip each other off. It's a people problem. Until we return to a society that values moral fiber and integrity, we're going to see more of this kind of stuff.
Reminder that all the materials for cards, packs, boxes, blanks, and digital images are just on computers in China. How many more years can we rip a thousand sealed vintage boxes a day on whatnot and youtube and tiktok before you guys start asking where these are coming from? Lol
It is because these people know what it is selling it to us collect Ors , players and be getting shit while they get the good stuff and we just keep buying not knowing if they scanned it or not .its going to make people not wanna buy it .@tienshinhan8189
When weighing became widespread, you needed to assume it was weighed and that it didn’t have a hit. When this becomes widespread, you’ll just have to assume the same thing. I’m not so sure that this will destroy the market - if anything, it will cause people to open up so many more sealed products.
With weighted packs you could only assume. With scanning you don't have to assume. You can say with 100% certaintity what card is inside. That's the difference.
Wait so I'm confused is this just for like individual packs?? Like you can really see every card in every pack of a sealed box, I'm not visualizing this well lol... also CT/Xray scanners are a well-known technology... there's def something companies could put in the box to block the signal if it ever got that big a deal
That’s the problem you don’t know if the sealed product you’re buying has been scanned before selling it to you. The seller could have scanned it and determined there’s nothing good in it.
This video sadly resonates really hard with me. I picked up collecting vintage cards purely off the nostalgia of not being able to find my old binders from my childhood. I’m turning 26 so this stuff feels ancient to me. It’s sad that the thrill is being exploited. I’m not sure how the Pokemon company is going to respond to this. We truly do ruin everything :/
I’m going to count on Pokemon printers to have the packaging distort X-ray images. There has to be a way. And also a way for the packaging note if it detects when an X-ray has occurred.
Idk how english packs work but for japanese there is a number on the pack that is unique to the box it was in. Does english have the same if yes there is no way they can do that.
No one is paying $60 to scan modern. Changing packaging doesn't fix anything until 10-20 years later. Even evo skies you wouldn't scan. This purely makes the already sketch vintage market (weighing) even more sketch
@@EmGeeLuck yeah, but also this is a random shot in the dark at pricing.. stuff like this only gets cheaper and easier to do. At some point you’ll be paying $60 for a booster box worth of cards not just a single pack. You’ll see TH-camrs willing to do it so that their videos/streams have all the “hits” .. make up the difference in views/etc.. This is not a great thing for the hobby cause it’s only gonna get easier and cheaper to do.. probably good for the slab and singles market though… people won’t trust packs anymore
@PMTCards I agree it's terrible overall, but on the flipside it's not TCG destroying or hobby ending. It's just a real shifty situation for collectors and I'd say the majority buying any new product will not be searched. Vintage with low pop for sealed product is completely different. Imagine if 90% was searched because someone with big pockets wants to hold most of the inventory whether it's a shop, person, or company. Even content creators or people trying to fake hype content will have to sell at market price and their buyers will see their products are normal. If it's solely for content then that's only minor harmful
Let's say I have 10 Evolving Skies Booster Boxes in my Mom's basement. In 10 years I'd like to sell them. I haven't used any of those scanning services and they just laid down there in basement. In those 10 years when I'd try to sell them on ebay, people will automatically assume that I scanned it, searching for Moonbreon and they are all dead. But in reality I bought them for retail from a shop all these years ago and didn't do anything. There'll be no way of proving it because I don't know what's inside those boxes. Might be 10 boxes with no alt arts in it. Might be 2 Moonbreons in it. I don't know. But people won't believe you, even when you're telling the truth because they'll automatically assume you're a scammer because you sell old, vintage sealed products. All because some a-hole decided to make the tech public and available. How can anyone sane say that this will help improve the community?!
I think you can still make money investing in expensive booster boxes, just it will be much much harder to sell in the future as everyone assumes expensive boxes have been scanned already. Hence idk about investing in them anymore.
@@carminemuraglia882 I havent heard anything but LOOSE PACK scanning... or did i miss the part when he says theyre able to scan booster boxes, etbs, booster bundles, factory sealed cases etc?
@@shaneshannon434 jluv had a booster pack scanned and it was able to detect hits but not all of them. Scanning boxes currently is harder but I have no doubt as years pass and this tech advances, it will be a non issue.
Konami's Yugioh TCG is already going down hill with lame rarity pulls and now common people will not buy sealed products since scalpers will try to hold all the valuable scanned boxes/tins with ultra and secret rares that they can get by using this technology. I don't think were be able to buy rare single cards anymore, and this will kill all printed non digital TCG games.
Could have been worse. At least everyone now knows the method vs. if someone who had lots of money and sealed pokemon that would have kept it quiet, rip people off, and ruin the market.
This just gives us a future state with 3 big changes: 1-There will be a grading company offering certification and scanning of sealed product, so those details will be tied to the #. So when you go to PSA/CGC/Beckett and enter the cert for your Jungle booster box, the scan results are there. 2-You should probably never buy ungraded vintage unless you really trust the source, their distribution channel and their distribution channel's procurement channel. 3-Unscanned sealed product probably loses substantial value, since as you said, you can't exactly prove it is unscanned...
Once this catches on to manufacturers of the cards they will simply insert a layer of carbon paper in the pack. Extremely cheap to do and carbon is a nightmare for x- ray machines of any sort. How long will it take is the question I guess…. There’s ways the consumer can protect themselves by buying sealed from a reputable source. Individual pacs from eBay have always been SUS and if your buying those your loosing. Weighing packs has always been a thing in cards so the consumer needs to purchase along the same conditions as this. Super sad to see how humans act these days, it’s about time for Mother Earth to hit the reset button.
I think it’s gonna destroy vintage for a lot of people. And it’s sucks cause the goal of my channel eventually was to open one of every box ever made…. But after I do the breaks for the few boxes I already own. Idk if I’d ever feel comfortable buying vintage boxes again. And that’s a shitty feeling
you could very easily test any company that does this, just reseal the packs, send them fake BANGERS and see if they scan and send them back with proper documentation or scan and replace with different packs
Maybe there's a way to make future packs have a layer that blocks this. Unfortunately that doesn't help vintage packs or any pack made before the scan blocker tech is implemented.
I remember when trading cards first came out at comic shops in Australia in the late 80s. The comic store in Brisbane got busted using a scanner on packs that identified the shiny cards to sell them individually at higher prices. People's greed is such a sad thing...
They do this only to make money. They will find the chase card and open it for themselves to sell it. The other non chase cards will be sold as unweighed/unscanned as a "chance" to pull something.
Everyone crying in the comments gives me joy 😂😂😂😂 get real jobs. Boo hoo. You mean you don’t have complete vintage sets in 2024? Geez get a life if this is what you’re crying about. Disgraceful.
Maybe this technology existing for a while explains why vintage sealed box prices are so ridiculously high and never worth opening. You pretty much have to get the best hit for it to be worth opening the box. Maybe that's because a lot of people actually have the technology to guarantee to pull the best hit.
I remember during Covid when Logan Paul was spending hundreds of thousands I said to myself “someone’s going to figure out a way to manipulate this” anddddd here we are lol
Wow this is so disgusting, I follow you because I'm in the process of starting up my own business with Pokémon and Pokémon merchandise, after I can get a dependable trustworthy distributor, but this stupid system may kill me before I get started!
@@VANQUISHINATOR it will work better than yours, and your made up specialization when you can't even explain what a ct does, why it would not be attainable to build one at that price point and why a tutorial would not be able to explain the process, it is very simple to make you just can't process that.
I have a bad feeling this could be devastating to sealed product. Won’t be a straight up ending but just even a 20~% scare off of consumers is very impactful.
Or another kicker: send a pack on that has a chase card, they can send a dud pack back and say your pack didn’t have anything. There isn’t a clear way to check that end either
These people start BSng then say goodbye to any place that sells Pokémon cards. No more people buying from anywhere but from retail or direct from Pokémon center.
Sadly they can’t do that with the old cards. I’m hoping that because of supply being limited this may inevitably force the supply down and whittle out everything.
Right? Guy just ranted for 20 mins about how his non-value add resale “business” is going to fail because he can’t scam people on perceived value he didn’t create anymore
@@Bonpeefyget your facts straight he didn’t scam anyone. He gets his boxes from wholesalers and sells it to the public. These were boxes you would never touch without his a retailer or a similar seller’s help. He’s talking about the fans concerns for integrity of the product and peace of mind when buying. This is beyond capitalism. You added no value with your snarky comment. He adds value by sharing business knowledge, reliability and accountability in the product he sells. If you don’t like it, why did you click on this channel and watch his video?
@@shr512 he resells a product he had no part of crating the value of. He is a middleman. That is not a value add. All the value is in the product. He is sad because he can’t make money off others’ hard work anymore. Also I watched the video because of the clickbait title, which is also why I felt the need to comment.
From what I understand, the CAT scans can’t go through materials like tungsten, gold platinum. I highly doubt any of those will be used to make sure Pokémon cards can’t be scanned. I really kind of think it’s a problem that might not have a fix.
Most metals. The more dense the material the harder for x-rays to pass through. I’m skeptical Pokémon cards even show in an x-ray. Good thing I’m an x-ray tech and can find out
The major issue I have with this is eventually when these things get made into an app or some small device anyone can buy for cheap then we can't trust packs anymore. So pokemon will have to put maybe a plate of metal in the packs to block it out or something.
I agree with you. This whole thing pisses me off. Just because something can be done doesn’t mean it should. And you know it’s going to end up being a case of a bunch of companies popping up doing this and the price is going to get cheaper and cheaper and ruin booster box values. Good old mankind. Have to screw everything up with greed.
The amount of short sightedness in the hobby is amazing. The people that take advantage and grift in the hobby won’t be around to see the results of their actions, years down the road.
The PokemonNetwork vendor at TCG events with 2+million dollars in vintage booster boxes is so screwed. Or perhaps they have all already been scanned with garbage inside waiting for someone to buy.
100% agree with what you said. They’ve literally taken the magic away from vintage packs. 😢😢 Definitely can’t see the positive other than seeing what’s there and selling the trash 🤦♂️
I’m just scared to see how fast this whole process moved along. I had no idea they were doing this. I never thought about purchasing vintage, but this definitely ruined any reason to purchase them. I worry that this will be used on modern cards once they rec each a specific price point. This shit is stupid. Thank you for sharing.
At least the guy who found out the method released literally all of his methods in a video as opposed to someone with large quanitities of sealed pokemeon doing the same thing, telling no one, investing in as much sealed as they can, and ripping people off and drastically affecting the market.
Using X-ray sensitive film as a method to alert consumers to radiation exposure for Pokémon products is indeed a practical idea. Here’s a more detailed breakdown of how this could work, along with its advantages and considerations: Type of Film: The film should be sensitive to X-rays, similar to radiographic film used in medical imaging. It can be designed to change color or develop an image when exposed to radiation, indicating that a CT scan has occurred. Placement: The film can be incorporated into the packaging of Pokémon products, either as a label, a patch, or a card inserted within the packaging. It should be easily visible or accessible for inspection. Functionality: Exposure Detection: When a CT scan is performed, the X-ray radiation will expose the film, leading to a visible change. Depending on the design, the film might darken or show specific patterns, indicating that the product has been scanned. Visual Indicators: You could create a two-part system where one film indicates exposure levels and another provides a more intense alert (e.g., if a certain threshold is surpassed). Advantages Simple and Effective: X-ray sensitive film provides a straightforward, cost-effective way to visually indicate whether a product has been scanned. No Need for Power: Unlike electronic sensors, this film does not require batteries or electronic components, making it easier to implement and maintain. Immediate Feedback: Users can quickly assess if a product has been exposed to radiation simply by inspecting the film
I, for one, can't wait to see this market crumble. There is no reason these cards should be as expensive as they are--same goes for unopened retro product.
100% agree brian. I don’t normally comment on your vids a ton, I just lurk watch them, but people aren’t taking this seriously enough yet. I’m absolutely dumbfounded by the amount of people blowing this off or thinking it won’t drastically affect the future of everything as we know it for TCG’s. Really depressing to see how complacent so much of the community is being about this situation. I’ve collected cards since 2007, taking a break for a few years during sun and moon, but have been loving it again. Sadly this is enough to make me wanna quit entirely
It's unfair trade practices as simple as it goes. That has ruined the trade 100% if you own a shop id seek an attorney. If you sell a pack knowing it's for less that's a lawsuit.
When I bought an Action Replay, I used it to enhance the games I played, rather than to destroy them. I never used it to make every Pokemon a shining one; I would just use it if I found a Shining Pokemon I already had, as I would then just make whatever I find next a Shining Pokemon, and that felt a lot less easy/cheap. It's always a shame when people end up inadvertently ruining their hobbies by taking shortcuts and cheating. I still play Gold/Silver to this day and only have about 20 Shining Pokemon lol.
I keep telling people that this whole CT scanning pokemon cards is totally ridiculous. Inside each one of those machines there is an iridium or americium core. About the size of a little pill. A little pill that can kill if not properly disposed of. Just one of those machines end up in some scrap pile to be crushed it could mean disaster. Mark my words. If all kinds of people start looking for these CT scanners for personal use, THE MAN himself is gonna pitch a fit.
Idk if it cost $10 per scan. You send in a booster box. Youd pay $360 just to see into the box. Most sets just couldnt justify that price to be worth messing with
Yeah but for older boxes it will ruin it and in time the process will become cheaper and cheaper as it is automated and more people do it. This is a disaster honestly and very frustrating.
They should just start putting a thin magnetic top card in each pack going forward; but all previously sealed packs will be worthless in less than a year cuz of this.
If this becomes widespread (most likely will) then sealed investing is dead and the only value left will be in PSA 10s where there’s no more mystery left to be stripped away.
and a card sealed in a pack isnt guaranteed a 10, more like a 9 or 8 or maybe even a 7, so this aint what rookies think it is, and just because a pack was certified... who is to say the pack the sellers actually sends the buyer was the one certified in the first place, sealed vintage is for collecting not opening its been a scam for a while now
@@sagegrosser the reason why I said there’s no more mystery to a PSA 10 is because you’ll still have the mystery of anything with a lower grade possibly grading higher if you were to resubmit it and someone else graded it. All that wondering pretty much stops when you get a 10. That is the end of the line. Well, if you consider a bgs black label, THAT is the end of the line. But those are so rare to get it doesn’t come up as often.
@@the-absolute-light i personally never got the big deal of having a 10, do i want one? of course i do! but i dont think they are worth the gap in price between a 9 or 8 most of the time. if i know an 8 is pack fresh, than an 8 is fine with me, lowest i try to go though is 8, maybeee a 7.
This will definitely hit the vintage market pretty hard. Im curious to see how the xrays look with the multiple holos/reverse holos of modern packs. As far as im aware, in vintage packs there is only 1 holo and the xray picks up the outline of the foil and you can see the shape of whatever pokemon is on the card. I wonder if extra holos or reverse holos would interfere with the picture. The pokemon company may need to get creative and put 2 code cards (one on top and one on the bottom) per pack with metal strips or foil in them to thwart the xray. The bad part is that could up the price per pack of future sets.
Here is a solution the Pokemon company puts a way inside their products that when scanned will show proof of a CT scan or leave a trace inside the booster box once opened for proof of purchase for Pokemon and any such tampering from any entity can be charged with fraud that way the customer has a way proof of a scan that they cannot replicate. This will eliminate the threat to customers and make these businesses act normal or face consequences and lose their licenses if they decide to engage in fraudulent behavior that way even breakers cannot hide scanned boxes live. They wanna scan let them but lets bring charges to the fraudsters they need to face reality.
Pokemon will 100% be able to protect upcoming packs with some kind of protective layer against these scans. Unfortunately this is terrible for anyone holding large amounts of already released sealed products. I hate this but dont think it ruins collecting, it will just evolve. Hoarders have to be poopin themselves atm tho😬
Here is exactly what will happen. The tech is a commodity… more companies will offer the service, assessment price will dip, will be new norm for vintage… not cost effective for modern PTCG.
Probably going to evolve where the scan is also provided with whatever image is found. If not, the company will always say there’s nothing in it keeping whatever they find. This scam will never end.
The only people that will get screwed by this are the people sending in their packs to get scanned. Good luck with getting the same pack sent back after they find a huge hit in your back and replace it with a junk pack.
Well...this is what you get when a card game gets turned into an economy? Is it really surprising? A card game like One Piece TCG has a huge barrier to entry, when people have to consider which deck they wanna even build to start playing and can't even do it under three digits to be competitive. Alternative being buying a 50 buck beginner deck, if they can even find one in stores. Because there's already too big of an economy built around it. Congratulations to everyone who continues to contribute to this with pack opening and card grading videos.
Kidults f'ed up the magic when other kidults decided children's products should be valued as much as cars, houses and gold. Your Charizard is just a piece of paper, nothing more.
The USD is the same in all fairness. Paper a large amount of people put value on for the sake of itself. Without the gold standard, the value of money is just a big “agreement” Pokémon card “kidults” are just a small nomadic country with currency just as volitile as any other - pretty interesting if you think about it
I don’t think anyone will buy that ct scanning company. There’s no proprietary tech that they own. Or a client list that a new company couldn’t build up themselves. Especially those big grading companies. The same way they did it overnight, others will do from scratch. If pokemon has to change packaging materials on every product, how much more will they cost? Are singles gonna go up, or down from finding them all?
Have reported this to several tcg companies. Maybe something can be brought up along the lines of tampering as to protect literally every single retailer, and as a result of that collectors and investors could be protected.
I don’t understand how this is even legal, don’t these machines give you cancer, how are they allowed to have a public service using these machines without a medical license or something, maybe they’ll get sued
I feel like this has been around for a long time, people are just now becoming more aware and now people are gonna package the service and make it accessible. I think this honestly wont change things other than creating a service market for this new wave of consumer
This does suck especially for those who enjoy the vintage. Going forward, I see Pokémon International trying to put small wire mesh into the packs to prevent scanning but anyone who thinks this is a great idea has their priorities skewed. The collecting hobby has forever changed, not just Pokémon.
Pokemon and all trading cards need to create some sort of “ Disrupter foil paper of some sort “ to disrupt potential scans . For the modern Pokemon cards . Unfortunately the vintage is the wild Wild West . However it can be corrected for the modern
I can't wait to get my pokeman packs scanned at my next doctor's office visit and have it billed to my insurance lol 😆 we have the power to value these vintage products and I say we fucking destroy it
On the plus side the market will lose confidence in second-hand packs and people will stop buying them, and those who have them will be forced to open them. You see pack being overly priced for the chance of there being that one lucky card. Think about it, now if you see those unopened packs you won't think twice on taking the gamble under the assumption that its already been scanned.
I mean with the pull rates I've been getting from booster boxes directly from Pokemon company distributors feels like it wouldn't matter I get a scanned product online or not.
Now that the damage is done we should focus on solving 1 Pokémon company need to step up it's Game to garantee secrecy of their own product 2 since is a consumer issue and the provided service may be used in a scam scheme , providers of scaning services should make public the list of companies or ppl that have use the service. 3 You should try the service on your own to SEE if it's profitable or not.
Investing in Pokemon Cards is no different to investing on the stock exchange. Things change and financial luck can rise and fall. Pokemon cards have had a much longer honeymoon period. This has nothing to do with magic being lost. Everyone seeking a sealed WOTC pack isn't doing it for "magic", they're doing it for financial reasons. People are blowing this right out of proportion because they fear for their investments and their value. Want to maintain value? Don't scan your packs or booster boxes. Simple.
Maybe instead of all of these possible futures that you paint, packs just diminish in value to zero. Instead, singles are what hold value. I think that’s a possible reality. No more loose packs or boxes that hold value unless they are shown to have high value cards - again, the singles only have value. Also in this scenario, I assume there’s no downside to ripping and holding singles. Unverified/unscanned packs = zero value. And I am talking about out of print packs/boxes. I assume current sets will always hold mrsp at retailers
Once again society making Pokemon collecting ALL about money. Been seeing this for a while now. All the scalpers and people Overcharging for mid cards… can’t just enjoy collecting anymore without spending thousands…
Buying vintage packs was already a bad idea before this. Just buy the singles you want from those sets. It never made sense to buy a “heavy” base set pack for $450 when you can just buy a PSA 9 Charizard for $1000 or a CGC for even less. This will just make more people realize buying the singles is way better This is a much bigger problem/deal for the sports market as they have modern products where boxes cost thousands… Pokémon doesn’t really have modern products that are expensive like sports do. So there isn’t really any Pokemon product released in the last like 5 years that’s worth paying the fee to actually scan the pack. And anyone who was buying vintage packs to open was already acting dumb for doing it before this. Overall though this is a huge negative for the card hobby and the only fix will be manufacturers adapting packaging going forward. I’m not sure what materials they can make packs out of or put a layer in that is safe and prevents this but there is likely some packaging changes these companies will have to do going forward. Especially on the sports side
gold might be the only thing that can safely be used to hide from ct scanners. def expensive addition at scale, and booster boxes may get a big price increase
there we go, thats my cue to stop buying booster packs and just haggle for complete sets if i want a specific modern set. Or even better, don't bother getting modern set and be happy with my WOTC sets.
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As a community, we had this coming and, honestly, deserve it. It stopped being about the cards, art, and collection long ago. Money this and sealed collection that and ES to the moon! Pokemon tried to give us 1-2 SIR per box and yall complained because "pulls too easy, value is too low". Like OMG buy some stocks.
TPCI are probably laughing because only modern is "safe" and they already got theirs with vintage. If you love Pokemon, you can forget the FO, accept that you MO'd and enjoy whatever generation you started with. Sheesh.
When a competitor comes along offering £10 per scan, investing in sealed products will become worthless.
How? You do know light packs get sold every single day
When a streamer / rapper drops $1,000,000 and resells all the packs with cards that have - EV and then tells his rich friends and they drop 100k, 500k, another 1m…then it’s ruined quickly and it’ll happen very soon.
@@sotorc1448 I'm talking about sealed boxes, not sealed packs.
If there is something great post scan, what stops the scanning company from doing a switcheroo back to you and keeping the good stuff for themselves?
@@DragonRollYumYum Customer puts their item into a team bag and a void sticker AND they give additional void sticker. Then the company does the scan, and sends the item back. If the seal is broken, you know it's been tampered with.
Honestly I think this actually benefits TPCi because it now forces people to buy from them directly instead of resellers. They do not care about resellers or the value of old packs, they’re trying to sell the newest sets. So this will cause people to buy the newest sets directly from them because that guarantees they haven’t been scanned lol
People have been doing this for decades. It's just at this doing so many people are doing it that it's not a secret anymore. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
Exactly. 👍
True
It juat went viral. The fact it has been done for a LONG TIME in all caps like everyone is dumb for worrying shows how little you understand about the world. This becoming well known is a big problem. The amount of money people have is stupid. I’m an online business owner, this would absolutely be worth it to me to just set up in my garage. If .1% of packs were impacted now it will be wayyyy worse.
Good luck thinking “it’s been done for a long time, not a big deal bc people know now”
It is, and it’s much worse now that we all know.
If I can afford this without blinking an eye we have a huge problem now.
@@LavaDude It's the same with PSA or grading. In the past people were grading only special, high end cards or rare ones. With 2019 covid boom for grading, people started sending casually any common junk they can think of. In 90% of cases the cost of grading is not worth it for those cards. The same will be applied here. There'll be abundance of idiots who will scan modern, like Twilight Masquarade to hit Greninja even though it will be a loss to them. People who think it'll only affect the vintage are naive.
Yeah i’ve been doing this for awhile now 😂
Mr Jones. Can you scan my pack please. Company, Yes, send it in. Scan card, top hit inside. Company, here's the results, appears to be nothing in it, we will send it back. Picks crap scanned pack off the shelf and sends it back. Have fun with that!
And some dump guys think that adding a plastic "seal with number" on a sticker will prevent them from doing so LMAO. Yeah sure, it's 2024, plastic seals as a stickers are sooooo hard to replicate. Can they be even more stupid?
That's why you mark it before you send it in
@@veteranredbeard6222 Yes, marking an expensive item won't de value it at all lol!
Scan it before you send it to be scanned, its the only way😂😂🎉🎉
“He’s a nerd.” -Pokemon collector that just ranted about shiny espeon not being cool anymore
The problem isn't just with Pokemon cards. Predatory business practices and scams have erupted in the last 10 years. Everybody is trying to rip each other off. It's a people problem. Until we return to a society that values moral fiber and integrity, we're going to see more of this kind of stuff.
Reminder that all the materials for cards, packs, boxes, blanks, and digital images are just on computers in China. How many more years can we rip a thousand sealed vintage boxes a day on whatnot and youtube and tiktok before you guys start asking where these are coming from? Lol
Some people out there just want to ruin this hobby for all of us.
It's not ruining the hobby. It's evolution.
@@tienshinhan8189 It's ruining the hobby and you'll find out soon.
@@ant_989no. You’re an investor. It’s ruining your business. Not the hobby. Get it right
It is because these people know what it is selling it to us collect
Ors , players and be getting shit while they get the good stuff and we just keep buying not knowing if they scanned it or not .its going to make people not wanna buy it .@tienshinhan8189
Is not only the hobby, it ruins an IP and the company who produce their TCG products.
When weighing became widespread, you needed to assume it was weighed and that it didn’t have a hit. When this becomes widespread, you’ll just have to assume the same thing. I’m not so sure that this will destroy the market - if anything, it will cause people to open up so many more sealed products.
With weighted packs you could only assume. With scanning you don't have to assume. You can say with 100% certaintity what card is inside. That's the difference.
Wait so I'm confused is this just for like individual packs?? Like you can really see every card in every pack of a sealed box, I'm not visualizing this well lol... also CT/Xray scanners are a well-known technology... there's def something companies could put in the box to block the signal if it ever got that big a deal
That’s the problem you don’t know if the sealed product you’re buying has been scanned before selling it to you. The seller could have scanned it and determined there’s nothing good in it.
Thank you! People are being so stupid about this.
The only way Pokémon can prevent this is making unscannable material for their new packs. Unfortunately vintage packs are ruined…
What material would they even use? 🤔
This video sadly resonates really hard with me. I picked up collecting vintage cards purely off the nostalgia of not being able to find my old binders from my childhood. I’m turning 26 so this stuff feels ancient to me. It’s sad that the thrill is being exploited. I’m not sure how the Pokemon company is going to respond to this. We truly do ruin everything :/
I agree but am 35 haha
I’m going to count on Pokemon printers to have the packaging distort X-ray images. There has to be a way. And also a way for the packaging note if it detects when an X-ray has occurred.
All I know is these scammers will scam the scammers you send a base set pack in they see a charizard and buy a different pack and send it back to you.
Idk how english packs work but for japanese there is a number on the pack that is unique to the box it was in. Does english have the same if yes there is no way they can do that.
This is when you start adding 2 metal ball bearings to booster boxes to kill the machines
That would do nothing to an x-ray machine, just show the ball bearings.
@VANQUISHINATOR It's a CT Scanner.
@@cornerstoneministries still won’t kill the machine. They’ll just be really bright white on the images.
Pokemon needs to change the packaging to stop this
Sure.. but this screws the 25 years of previous sets
No one is paying $60 to scan modern.
Changing packaging doesn't fix anything until 10-20 years later. Even evo skies you wouldn't scan. This purely makes the already sketch vintage market (weighing) even more sketch
@@EmGeeLuck yeah, but also this is a random shot in the dark at pricing.. stuff like this only gets cheaper and easier to do. At some point you’ll be paying $60 for a booster box worth of cards not just a single pack.
You’ll see TH-camrs willing to do it so that their videos/streams have all the “hits” .. make up the difference in views/etc..
This is not a great thing for the hobby cause it’s only gonna get easier and cheaper to do.. probably good for the slab and singles market though… people won’t trust packs anymore
@PMTCards I agree it's terrible overall, but on the flipside it's not TCG destroying or hobby ending.
It's just a real shifty situation for collectors and I'd say the majority buying any new product will not be searched.
Vintage with low pop for sealed product is completely different. Imagine if 90% was searched because someone with big pockets wants to hold most of the inventory whether it's a shop, person, or company.
Even content creators or people trying to fake hype content will have to sell at market price and their buyers will see their products are normal. If it's solely for content then that's only minor harmful
How would the ct scan work on a pack of yugioh or magic that has all foil cards with a foil wrapping
Let's say I have 10 Evolving Skies Booster Boxes in my Mom's basement. In 10 years I'd like to sell them. I haven't used any of those scanning services and they just laid down there in basement. In those 10 years when I'd try to sell them on ebay, people will automatically assume that I scanned it, searching for Moonbreon and they are all dead. But in reality I bought them for retail from a shop all these years ago and didn't do anything. There'll be no way of proving it because I don't know what's inside those boxes. Might be 10 boxes with no alt arts in it. Might be 2 Moonbreons in it. I don't know. But people won't believe you, even when you're telling the truth because they'll automatically assume you're a scammer because you sell old, vintage sealed products. All because some a-hole decided to make the tech public and available. How can anyone sane say that this will help improve the community?!
This worries me for sure. I don't see how this doesn't devastate sealed BBs. Thoughts on this @pokene_pokemon ?
I think you can still make money investing in expensive booster boxes, just it will be much much harder to sell in the future as everyone assumes expensive boxes have been scanned already. Hence idk about investing in them anymore.
thats why this is so awful
@@carminemuraglia882 I havent heard anything but LOOSE PACK scanning... or did i miss the part when he says theyre able to scan booster boxes, etbs, booster bundles, factory sealed cases etc?
@@shaneshannon434 jluv had a booster pack scanned and it was able to detect hits but not all of them. Scanning boxes currently is harder but I have no doubt as years pass and this tech advances, it will be a non issue.
I thought weighing packs was bad, but this ... This is just atrocious.
Konami's Yugioh TCG is already going down hill with lame rarity pulls and now common people will not buy sealed products since scalpers will try to hold all the valuable scanned boxes/tins with ultra and secret rares that they can get by using this technology. I don't think were be able to buy rare single cards anymore, and this will kill all printed non digital TCG games.
This will definitely ruin the Pokémon community. This is gonna be really bad.
It’s over I’m pulling out
@@Artictoyothat’s what she said
Could have been worse. At least everyone now knows the method vs. if someone who had lots of money and sealed pokemon that would have kept it quiet, rip people off, and ruin the market.
This just gives us a future state with 3 big changes: 1-There will be a grading company offering certification and scanning of sealed product, so those details will be tied to the #. So when you go to PSA/CGC/Beckett and enter the cert for your Jungle booster box, the scan results are there. 2-You should probably never buy ungraded vintage unless you really trust the source, their distribution channel and their distribution channel's procurement channel. 3-Unscanned sealed product probably loses substantial value, since as you said, you can't exactly prove it is unscanned...
This garbage is terrible for the entire card collecting community. I hope TPCI and other major tcg companies find a way to stop this crap.
Once this catches on to manufacturers of the cards they will simply insert a layer of carbon paper in the pack. Extremely cheap to do and carbon is a nightmare for x- ray machines of any sort. How long will it take is the question I guess…. There’s ways the consumer can protect themselves by buying sealed from a reputable source. Individual pacs from eBay have always been SUS and if your buying those your loosing. Weighing packs has always been a thing in cards so the consumer needs to purchase along the same conditions as this. Super sad to see how humans act these days, it’s about time for Mother Earth to hit the reset button.
I think it’s gonna destroy vintage for a lot of people. And it’s sucks cause the goal of my channel eventually was to open one of every box ever made…. But after I do the breaks for the few boxes I already own. Idk if I’d ever feel comfortable buying vintage boxes again. And that’s a shitty feeling
you could very easily test any company that does this, just reseal the packs, send them fake BANGERS and see if they scan and send them back with proper documentation or scan and replace with different packs
Maybe there's a way to make future packs have a layer that blocks this. Unfortunately that doesn't help vintage packs or any pack made before the scan blocker tech is implemented.
I remember when trading cards first came out at comic shops in Australia in the late 80s. The comic store in Brisbane got busted using a scanner on packs that identified the shiny cards to sell them individually at higher prices. People's greed is such a sad thing...
Insane how long it’s probably been going on already
Imagine if the creators of this had kept it to themselves. You would think they could've made more money then going public.
They do this only to make money. They will find the chase card and open it for themselves to sell it. The other non chase cards will be sold as unweighed/unscanned as a "chance" to pull something.
Pokemon Invents "Nonscannable Packs" Lets Pray!
Everyone crying in the comments gives me joy 😂😂😂😂 get real jobs. Boo hoo. You mean you don’t have complete vintage sets in 2024? Geez get a life if this is what you’re crying about. Disgraceful.
Working hard every day for years to build a big business isn't s "real job"?! Say the same stupid thing to your boss! -.-
Maybe this technology existing for a while explains why vintage sealed box prices are so ridiculously high and never worth opening. You pretty much have to get the best hit for it to be worth opening the box. Maybe that's because a lot of people actually have the technology to guarantee to pull the best hit.
No organization can stand the test of time unchanged, the pokemon company just need to evolve.
Pokémon Pocket
I remember during Covid when Logan Paul was spending hundreds of thousands I said to myself “someone’s going to figure out a way to manipulate this” anddddd here we are lol
Wow this is so disgusting, I follow you because I'm in the process of starting up my own business with Pokémon and Pokémon merchandise, after I can get a dependable trustworthy distributor, but this stupid system may kill me before I get started!
Well buying vintage is now ridiculously more risky
The worst part is there is a d.i.y 200$ CT machine build video on TH-cam so you don't even need to send them in for 60$ a scan.
in this case, CT stands for Cancer Turbocharger
As a radiologic technologist, I don’t believe for a second that you can build a functional CT machine for $200 and a TH-cam tutorial 😂
@@VANQUISHINATOR maybe find another career.
@@Risinqq lol. You let me know how your great value CT scanner works after you build it
@@VANQUISHINATOR it will work better than yours, and your made up specialization when you can't even explain what a ct does, why it would not be attainable to build one at that price point and why a tutorial would not be able to explain the process, it is very simple to make you just can't process that.
I have a bad feeling this could be devastating to sealed product. Won’t be a straight up ending but just even a 20~% scare off of consumers is very impactful.
Or another kicker: send a pack on that has a chase card, they can send a dud pack back and say your pack didn’t have anything. There isn’t a clear way to check that end either
These people start BSng then say goodbye to any place that sells Pokémon cards. No more people buying from anywhere but from retail or direct from Pokémon center.
Pokemon should use material for pack that can't be x-rayed
Sadly they can’t do that with the old cards. I’m hoping that because of supply being limited this may inevitably force the supply down and whittle out everything.
Yea go back to 1996 and tell them?
Stay tuned for listings online that say unweighted and not scanned
i think this is just going to introduce a new collector stream. Singles, Graded, Sealed Pack with Charizard
It's actually over. People hacked the system, and now, the value for packs will plumit.
That company should have to scan and register the bar codes of the packs. Then eBay should require that you photograph the barcode before listing
Everyone loves capitalism until capitalism slaps them in the face.
Right? Guy just ranted for 20 mins about how his non-value add resale “business” is going to fail because he can’t scam people on perceived value he didn’t create anymore
@@Bonpeefyget your facts straight he didn’t scam anyone. He gets his boxes from wholesalers and sells it to the public. These were boxes you would never touch without his a retailer or a similar seller’s help.
He’s talking about the fans concerns for integrity of the product and peace of mind when buying.
This is beyond capitalism.
You added no value with your snarky comment.
He adds value by sharing business knowledge, reliability and accountability in the product he sells.
If you don’t like it, why did you click on this channel and watch his video?
@@shr512 he resells a product he had no part of crating the value of. He is a middleman. That is not a value add. All the value is in the product. He is sad because he can’t make money off others’ hard work anymore.
Also I watched the video because of the clickbait title, which is also why I felt the need to comment.
From what I understand, the CAT scans can’t go through materials like tungsten, gold platinum. I highly doubt any of those will be used to make sure Pokémon cards can’t be scanned. I really kind of think it’s a problem that might not have a fix.
Most metals. The more dense the material the harder for x-rays to pass through. I’m skeptical Pokémon cards even show in an x-ray. Good thing I’m an x-ray tech and can find out
The major issue I have with this is eventually when these things get made into an app or some small device anyone can buy for cheap then we can't trust packs anymore. So pokemon will have to put maybe a plate of metal in the packs to block it out or something.
I agree with you. This whole thing pisses me off. Just because something can be done doesn’t mean it should. And you know it’s going to end up being a case of a bunch of companies popping up doing this and the price is going to get cheaper and cheaper and ruin booster box values. Good old mankind. Have to screw everything up with greed.
Real life Team Rocket out there.
I hope trading card manufacturers fix this with some new type of technology. Someway they can make their booster boxes not scannable
It is 100% financially correct for a large card purchaser to scan all of their boxes for the most valuable cards and sell the rest.
The amount of short sightedness in the hobby is amazing. The people that take advantage and grift in the hobby won’t be around to see the results of their actions, years down the road.
Because they don’t care about Pokemon. They come in and out of the hobby and move from space to space.
The PokemonNetwork vendor at TCG events with 2+million dollars in vintage booster boxes is so screwed. Or perhaps they have all already been scanned with garbage inside waiting for someone to buy.
100% agree with what you said. They’ve literally taken the magic away from vintage packs. 😢😢
Definitely can’t see the positive other than seeing what’s there and selling the trash 🤦♂️
I’m just scared to see how fast this whole process moved along. I had no idea they were doing this. I never thought about purchasing vintage, but this definitely ruined any reason to purchase them. I worry that this will be used on modern cards once they rec each a specific price point. This shit is stupid. Thank you for sharing.
At least the guy who found out the method released literally all of his methods in a video as opposed to someone with large quanitities of sealed pokemeon doing the same thing, telling no one, investing in as much sealed as they can, and ripping people off and drastically affecting the market.
Anyone who uses this service is merely contributing to the devaluation of their own item(s) and they are paying for the privilege. Insanity.
Using X-ray sensitive film as a method to alert consumers to radiation exposure for Pokémon products is indeed a practical idea. Here’s a more detailed breakdown of how this could work, along with its advantages and considerations:
Type of Film: The film should be sensitive to X-rays, similar to radiographic film used in medical imaging. It can be designed to change color or develop an image when exposed to radiation, indicating that a CT scan has occurred.
Placement: The film can be incorporated into the packaging of Pokémon products, either as a label, a patch, or a card inserted within the packaging. It should be easily visible or accessible for inspection.
Functionality:
Exposure Detection: When a CT scan is performed, the X-ray radiation will expose the film, leading to a visible change. Depending on the design, the film might darken or show specific patterns, indicating that the product has been scanned.
Visual Indicators: You could create a two-part system where one film indicates exposure levels and another provides a more intense alert (e.g., if a certain threshold is surpassed).
Advantages
Simple and Effective: X-ray sensitive film provides a straightforward, cost-effective way to visually indicate whether a product has been scanned.
No Need for Power: Unlike electronic sensors, this film does not require batteries or electronic components, making it easier to implement and maintain.
Immediate Feedback: Users can quickly assess if a product has been exposed to radiation simply by inspecting the film
I wonder if a geiger counter could be used to find out if a pack was scanned.
lol that’s not how X-ray works
I, for one, can't wait to see this market crumble. There is no reason these cards should be as expensive as they are--same goes for unopened retro product.
15:51 the only thing that makes a booster pack have value; is the mystery behind it. So well said my friend
100% agree brian. I don’t normally comment on your vids a ton, I just lurk watch them, but people aren’t taking this seriously enough yet. I’m absolutely dumbfounded by the amount of people blowing this off or thinking it won’t drastically affect the future of everything as we know it for TCG’s. Really depressing to see how complacent so much of the community is being about this situation. I’ve collected cards since 2007, taking a break for a few years during sun and moon, but have been loving it again. Sadly this is enough to make me wanna quit entirely
Check out infulencers like JLUV, openly supporting it and thinking it's a "good idea" LOL.
It's unfair trade practices as simple as it goes. That has ruined the trade 100% if you own a shop id seek an attorney. If you sell a pack knowing it's for less that's a lawsuit.
When I bought an Action Replay, I used it to enhance the games I played, rather than to destroy them. I never used it to make every Pokemon a shining one; I would just use it if I found a Shining Pokemon I already had, as I would then just make whatever I find next a Shining Pokemon, and that felt a lot less easy/cheap. It's always a shame when people end up inadvertently ruining their hobbies by taking shortcuts and cheating. I still play Gold/Silver to this day and only have about 20 Shining Pokemon lol.
I keep telling people that this whole CT scanning pokemon cards is totally ridiculous. Inside each one of those machines there is an iridium or americium core. About the size of a little pill. A little pill that can kill if not properly disposed of. Just one of those machines end up in some scrap pile to be crushed it could mean disaster. Mark my words. If all kinds of people start looking for these CT scanners for personal use, THE MAN himself is gonna pitch a fit.
Idk if it cost $10 per scan. You send in a booster box. Youd pay $360 just to see into the box. Most sets just couldnt justify that price to be worth messing with
Yeah but for older boxes it will ruin it and in time the process will become cheaper and cheaper as it is automated and more people do it. This is a disaster honestly and very frustrating.
The process will continue to get cheaper every year.
Until they start up charging for packs with high end cards no one should trust sending those high end packs in lol
They should just start putting a thin magnetic top card in each pack going forward; but all previously sealed packs will be worthless in less than a year cuz of this.
If this becomes widespread (most likely will) then sealed investing is dead and the only value left will be in PSA 10s where there’s no more mystery left to be stripped away.
or 8s or 9s, theres cards graded in 5s worth more than your favorite 10.... older, rarer, thennn minter, remember that.
and a card sealed in a pack isnt guaranteed a 10, more like a 9 or 8 or maybe even a 7, so this aint what rookies think it is, and just because a pack was certified... who is to say the pack the sellers actually sends the buyer was the one certified in the first place, sealed vintage is for collecting not opening its been a scam for a while now
@@sagegrosser the reason why I said there’s no more mystery to a PSA 10 is because you’ll still have the mystery of anything with a lower grade possibly grading higher if you were to resubmit it and someone else graded it. All that wondering pretty much stops when you get a 10. That is the end of the line. Well, if you consider a bgs black label, THAT is the end of the line. But those are so rare to get it doesn’t come up as often.
@@the-absolute-light i personally never got the big deal of having a 10, do i want one? of course i do! but i dont think they are worth the gap in price between a 9 or 8 most of the time. if i know an 8 is pack fresh, than an 8 is fine with me, lowest i try to go though is 8, maybeee a 7.
This will definitely hit the vintage market pretty hard. Im curious to see how the xrays look with the multiple holos/reverse holos of modern packs. As far as im aware, in vintage packs there is only 1 holo and the xray picks up the outline of the foil and you can see the shape of whatever pokemon is on the card. I wonder if extra holos or reverse holos would interfere with the picture. The pokemon company may need to get creative and put 2 code cards (one on top and one on the bottom) per pack with metal strips or foil in them to thwart the xray. The bad part is that could up the price per pack of future sets.
Here is a solution the Pokemon company puts a way inside their products that when scanned will show proof of a CT scan or leave a trace inside the booster box once opened for proof of purchase for Pokemon and any such tampering from any entity can be charged with fraud that way the customer has a way proof of a scan that they cannot replicate. This will eliminate the threat to customers and make these businesses act normal or face consequences and lose their licenses if they decide to engage in fraudulent behavior that way even breakers cannot hide scanned boxes live. They wanna scan let them but lets bring charges to the fraudsters they need to face reality.
Pokemon will 100% be able to protect upcoming packs with some kind of protective layer against these scans. Unfortunately this is terrible for anyone holding large amounts of already released sealed products. I hate this but dont think it ruins collecting, it will just evolve. Hoarders have to be poopin themselves atm tho😬
Here is exactly what will happen. The tech is a commodity… more companies will offer the service, assessment price will dip, will be new norm for vintage… not cost effective for modern PTCG.
I hate that s***, I like feeling excited opening a pack. Can't believe they fup
Probably going to evolve where the scan is also provided with whatever image is found. If not, the company will always say there’s nothing in it keeping whatever they find. This scam will never end.
Should’ve watched til the end before commenting 😂 you’re spot on
The only people that will get screwed by this are the people sending in their packs to get scanned. Good luck with getting the same pack sent back after they find a huge hit in your back and replace it with a junk pack.
Well...this is what you get when a card game gets turned into an economy? Is it really surprising?
A card game like One Piece TCG has a huge barrier to entry, when people have to consider which deck they wanna even build to start playing and can't even do it under three digits to be competitive. Alternative being buying a 50 buck beginner deck, if they can even find one in stores. Because there's already too big of an economy built around it.
Congratulations to everyone who continues to contribute to this with pack opening and card grading videos.
Kidults f'ed up the magic when other kidults decided children's products should be valued as much as cars, houses and gold. Your Charizard is just a piece of paper, nothing more.
The USD is the same in all fairness. Paper a large amount of people put value on for the sake of itself. Without the gold standard, the value of money is just a big “agreement”
Pokémon card “kidults” are just a small nomadic country with currency just as volitile as any other - pretty interesting if you think about it
I don’t think anyone will buy that ct scanning company. There’s no proprietary tech that they own. Or a client list that a new company couldn’t build up themselves. Especially those big grading companies. The same way they did it overnight, others will do from scratch. If pokemon has to change packaging materials on every product, how much more will they cost? Are singles gonna go up, or down from finding them all?
this makes "who's that pokemon !?" hit different.
Have reported this to several tcg companies. Maybe something can be brought up along the lines of tampering as to protect literally every single retailer, and as a result of that collectors and investors could be protected.
I don’t understand how this is even legal, don’t these machines give you cancer, how are they allowed to have a public service using these machines without a medical license or something, maybe they’ll get sued
I feel like this has been around for a long time, people are just now becoming more aware and now people are gonna package the service and make it accessible. I think this honestly wont change things other than creating a service market for this new wave of consumer
This does suck especially for those who enjoy the vintage. Going forward, I see Pokémon International trying to put small wire mesh into the packs to prevent scanning but anyone who thinks this is a great idea has their priorities skewed. The collecting hobby has forever changed, not just Pokémon.
Pokemon and all trading cards need to create some sort of “ Disrupter foil paper of some sort “ to disrupt potential scans . For the modern Pokemon cards . Unfortunately the vintage is the wild Wild West . However it can be corrected for the modern
Maybe Wizards and the Pokemon company will put protective material over the packs and boxes.
I can't wait to get my pokeman packs scanned at my next doctor's office visit and have it billed to my insurance lol 😆 we have the power to value these vintage products and I say we fucking destroy it
You know.. anyone can open a shop saying they will scan for $70 and just say there's nothing good for every pack.
On the plus side the market will lose confidence in second-hand packs and people will stop buying them, and those who have them will be forced to open them. You see pack being overly priced for the chance of there being that one lucky card.
Think about it, now if you see those unopened packs you won't think twice on taking the gamble under the assumption that its already been scanned.
So many people crying because they arent able to sell their packs of Pokemon cards for thousands or 10's of thousands of dollars a piece anymore
I mean with the pull rates I've been getting from booster boxes directly from Pokemon company distributors feels like it wouldn't matter I get a scanned product online or not.
Now that the damage is done we should focus on solving
1 Pokémon company need to step up it's Game to garantee secrecy of their own product
2 since is a consumer issue and the provided service may be used in a scam scheme , providers of scaning services should make public the list of companies or ppl that have use the service.
3 You should try the service on your own to SEE if it's profitable or not.
Investing in Pokemon Cards is no different to investing on the stock exchange. Things change and financial luck can rise and fall. Pokemon cards have had a much longer honeymoon period. This has nothing to do with magic being lost. Everyone seeking a sealed WOTC pack isn't doing it for "magic", they're doing it for financial reasons. People are blowing this right out of proportion because they fear for their investments and their value. Want to maintain value? Don't scan your packs or booster boxes. Simple.
Easy answer to why people do this. Greed and Money.
The sealed product market is officially done. Add this to the disaster of the BBCE Pokemon case and I can't see anyone paying high dollar for boxes
Maybe instead of all of these possible futures that you paint, packs just diminish in value to zero. Instead, singles are what hold value. I think that’s a possible reality. No more loose packs or boxes that hold value unless they are shown to have high value cards - again, the singles only have value. Also in this scenario, I assume there’s no downside to ripping and holding singles. Unverified/unscanned packs = zero value. And I am talking about out of print packs/boxes. I assume current sets will always hold mrsp at retailers
Once again society making Pokemon collecting ALL about money. Been seeing this for a while now. All the scalpers and people
Overcharging for mid cards… can’t just enjoy collecting anymore without spending thousands…
Buying vintage packs was already a bad idea before this. Just buy the singles you want from those sets.
It never made sense to buy a “heavy” base set pack for $450 when you can just buy a PSA 9 Charizard for $1000 or a CGC for even less.
This will just make more people realize buying the singles is way better
This is a much bigger problem/deal for the sports market as they have modern products where boxes cost thousands… Pokémon doesn’t really have modern products that are expensive like sports do. So there isn’t really any Pokemon product released in the last like 5 years that’s worth paying the fee to actually scan the pack.
And anyone who was buying vintage packs to open was already acting dumb for doing it before this.
Overall though this is a huge negative for the card hobby and the only fix will be manufacturers adapting packaging going forward. I’m not sure what materials they can make packs out of or put a layer in that is safe and prevents this but there is likely some packaging changes these companies will have to do going forward. Especially on the sports side
gold might be the only thing that can safely be used to hide from ct scanners. def expensive addition at scale, and booster boxes may get a big price increase
there we go, thats my cue to stop buying booster packs and just haggle for complete sets if i want a specific modern set.
Or even better, don't bother getting modern set and be happy with my WOTC sets.