I carry the HK P7 M13 and I think it is the best gunfighting pistol ever made. They were tested by the US army as a carry weapon. They fired 5000 rounds through them with not one failure whatsoever. The reason that they didn't pick up the HK was the cost. The govt has to count their pennnies even though they waste billions. I love mine and I would never sell it.
Have always been a fan of German guns, the Sig P-228 being my favorite go-to gun. The P7 is no doubt, what started everything. We appreciate the excellent video and beautiful photography!
I chose and carried this gun (actually the P7 M8 model) as my backup weapon when I was a Sheriff Deputy (now retired). My department used the Beretta 92F as the approved on-duty weapon. The H&K P7 M8 is extremely accurate, quickest "shoot-ready" of any pistol I have ever owned or shot and easy to carry. It served me well and I still have this gun and love it. I will never sell it. I thank my extremely knowledgeable range master for turning me onto it.
Thank you very much for sharing your story and for watching. I really appreciate it. The P7 is one of my all-time favorite pistols. Stay healthy and safe.
Welcome to the P7 world. I discovered the P7 pistols in 1985 and as a lefty, was attracted to it for the truly full ambi design. As a lefty, it made things more easy for me. When I bought mine it was $459 in Shotgun News. The fatter M13 version was $499. The difference between the grips on the M8 v M13 is substantial. With my smaller hands the choice was obvious. Over the years my Chantilly vintage fat trigger P7M8 has become quite the favorite of H&K P7 geeks. As I learned more about Heckler and Koch I wound up buying a USPc in 45ACP and in stainless steel. Within a year I procured one of the ‘last 500’ which I chose to reduce my wear and tear in my new IF (1985) pistol. The second P7 is dated 2007. (AH date code). Addicted now to the HK company, I chose a P30, quickly followed by the recent release of the VP9., I quickly reserved two VP9s in 2014. Since the P7 is striker fired, I was curious to see how a modern HK striker fired pistol was built. The terrific grips made the VP9 a favorite. I then learned more about the P2000 model, a transitional model for HK between their USP handguns and the more modern design of the VP9s. When opportunities arose, I acquired additional slides and magazines. A VP40 slide and barrel quickly transformed my VP9s into VP40s. The P2000SK I purchased also had several attractive popularity features. With the addition of another P2000SK (subcompact) slide and barrel in 40SW it became a P2000 40. With just another barrel, it became a 357SIG. Even the magazines are shared between a 40 and a 357SIG. I soon discovered that even magazines are quite common across the firearms-a tremendous advantage within HK. And then HK introduced their longer slides, and barrels. So, I had to get a VP9 Match in 9mm with the longer barrel, and made Optically Ready. (Acro). Accuracy wise, the P7 is fairly unmatched, despite its shorter barrel. Benefiting from the longer slide and Match barrel, the VP9 Match is right up there. The USPc is also very accurate. The polygonal rifling (check your pronunciation) is unmatched in the gun world. Yes, the HK pricing is a bit rough on people but you will never lose money on an HK. The P7M8 is one of several pistols on my daily carry list (CCW) but two things work against this. First, it is a very heavy pistol, despite its size. Compared to my P2000SK it is significantly heavier. Second, if I am ever involved in a self defense shooting, law enforcement will undoubtedly hold the P7 in their evidence locker-and due to its value, may end up magically going missing at some time, when it’s time to get it back. Of all my HKs, the model I can afford to lose would be the P2000SK. I so much would like a subcompact VP9 next, for extended carry. Commonality of magazines is a big plus.
Wow, thank you for all that information. I have several HK pistols in my most recent purchase was a USPc in 45 Auto. I belong to a friend of mine and he had install the Grey Guns flat trigger and try to con night sights. Love this gun. Another one of my favorites is my USP full size also in 45 Auto. It is a first generation pistol. Good friend of mine let me shoot his P2000SK. I really enjoyed it and almost purchased one but ended up going with a VP9SK.Thank you very much for stopping by.
Such an interesting and beautiful pistol. A year ago I never thought I’d be interested in handguns at all. Now I study every bit I can get away with each day. Thanks for the video.
I have the P7 M13 it has a heat shield and US style mag release. I haven’t carried it for a number of years because of inadequately powered 9 mm ammunition. Since the ammunition makers have improved 9 mm I will carry this more often. I must say the only drawback I have is it is like carrying a boat anchor compared to the micro 9MM guns like the Sig 365xl. They can use the 17 round magazines! I love the fact that if someone gets my P7 more than likely they will not know how it operates and will be trying to rack rounds instead of manipulating the squeeze cocker.
I’ve owned H&K’s for years while in law enforcement I carried the PSP has my backup weapon I later purchased the H&K P7M8 best pistols ever made and most accurate!!!
Great video!! I own a P7M13 that I bought from a friend (matching box and two mags) and just love it! Another difference between the original P7 and the P7M8 and P7M13 is that they have larger trigger guards.
I have a PSP 4 digit sn. And 2 extra mags. All under $900. Fun watching the value go up. Missed out years ago on a brand new P7 M13 sat forever at $1300. Wished I would have bought it.
This is best, and safest, and most accurate pistol I have ever owned. I had two of the original P7's , which I sold when acquiring my current P7M8. It is a firearm that you can carry with a round in the chamber, and not have any condition that can cause an inadvertent discharge. Squeezing the cooking handle, following the insertion of a fresh magazine, releases the slide, clambering a round. Should you ever find yourself in a panic situation (following a reload), you can squeeze the cocking lever, while the trigger depressed, and your P7 will release the slide, chamber a round,and fire, all in a single motion! No finer pistol has ever been available. I won't ever sell mine.
P7 M13 owner here. It's a plum Chantilly. Is it the best? Hard to say, but it's extremely reliable, accurate and an engineer's wet dream. It's nice to see what people can devise when Penny Pinchers are kept out of the loop. I'm not rich by any means but I'm just trying to say that human imagination it's an incredible thing. There was another pistol, made in South Africa that employed a gas piston delayed blowback system before the Walther CCP. It's name is escapes me at the moment, but I believe they were covered by Ian at Forgotten Weapons. I seem to remember they had a polymer frame and thus, heat transfer to the trigger guard wasn't nearly as bad as the steel framed P7s. After 4 consecutive mags through mine, it's starting to get awfully hot. Thanks for the vid, it's always nice hearing about these beautiful guns. An afterthought, I'm pretty certain mine has tritium in the sights, but they're so dim you can only see it when the lights are off and your eyes have adjusted to the darkness.
+WhiteDwarfVR4 thank you for sharing this info with me. Indeed the P7 is amazing. I have not heard about the South African pistol that you mention but now I’m curious so I’ll do some research on it and see what I can find. Thanks for watching and stay safe and healthy.
Since you've asked, I have a P7M8 that I bought new in a local gunshop and range around 2001. It's the most accurate handgun that I've ever shot, and I've shot many of them in my life.
It is the best pistol ever made. H&K should bring it back. In the same way Colt brought back the Python because machining equipment has improved so it wasn’t as expensive to produce I believe the same should apply to the H&K squeeze cocker model. H& K has all they need to reintroduce it. If not H&K another manufacturer should seek to obtain the rights.
I don’t know if it’s your color grading but damn the finish looks wild on yours. Mine is like... plum plum colored. Like a dark purple now. It’s so ugly I want to get it refinished
MDpolo Gun Channel you are right , DO NOT REFINSH, all those guys want to chrome em and buy those wood grips are killing gun values. The finish is character of gun,i think . Hk p_7 mags run 140.oo and box is 150,00 . I was lucky to get an extra mag at time i got gun in 2008 hk trussville psp b grade . 749.oo otd . I traded a new box of 9 mm black talons for second magazine.
I purchased mine in Germany in late 1983 at the post rec center. Mine is the German version but I added the NIL grips a few years ago. Mine came with the carboard box and the box and all documents are in original condition. My magazine release is also different from the one you reviewed. The serial number is in the 52xxx range.
What you are discribing is a commercial P7 PSP. I have one out of '82 with the Serial 50***. Nice guns with the first magazine release. The german police has problems with that magazine release and changed it. The problems where that the outstanding release button and the seat belt clasps in their cars. Thats the difference between the P7 PSP and the later P7. Greetings from Germany.
German Engineering at its finest - just like the Luger but more advanced and much safer (a partial field stripped Luger can still discharge). Love the grip panels, too. However you have to maintain trigger discipline with your index finger when you grip the P7 firmly for the draw. Pulling the trigger and then the squeeze cocker will cause a negligent discharge. But that's not the guns fault. If you don't want to shoot, stay out of the trigger guard! The gas delay system can also cope with different loadings much better than other systems like the Browning one. If it's a weaker load, the mechanism resistance will be weaker, fire P++ and it will adjust itself to stronger resistance. Try this with a spring loaded action.
My favorite pistol ever.. I would take it over any.. I have the p7m8 and would love a m13..I have the same wood grips although my finish is not in as good of shape. I got it used a has some holster wear
It's now $5000~6000 for a P7M13 and $3000~4000 for a P7M8 in California. You have the rarity of P7s in general compounded with the import ban from the other 49 states due to the CA approved handgun roster, so Californians can only buy P7s already in California. Technically, transfer of the M13 magazines are illegal as well.
I own a P&M8 that I bought in 2008 at the Cabela’s in Fort Worth. It was a trade in of 2 pistols. One had never been shot and one that had minimal rounds through it. I bought the unfired one. I was working there since the store had opened and had seen lots of HK’s come through the Gun Library. These were my Holy Grail HK’s. We had gotten a bunch of PSP’s in from HK that had been refurbished after the German Police retired theirs and HK sent them to the us. They were selling at the time for between $500-600. A great deal for a PSP. Most of ours had the purple hue to the slide like this one. This one may have been one of the batch of refurbished police guns. My P7M8 has a blued finish but not a polished finish,slightly Matt like this one. My P7 is my daily carry. I have added walnut grips similar to this one. Very comfortable to shoot.
Comment from Germany on the P7: Based on my own experience, I can say that the P7 is one of the most unsafe pistols ever designed because it will fire if you accidentally cock it with the grip cocking while the trigger is pulled. This has happened repeatedly in Germany, even with a fatal outcome. My own experience happened in 1987. I shot a heavy boar at night on a meadow strip between a corn field and the forest, which immediately collapsed. After the shot I went to the wild boar lying quietly 30m away. Convinced that the boar was dead, I walked to the edge of the forest 5m away and leaned my gun at a tree to have both hands free to gut the boar and then went back to the boar. When I was about 1.5m away, the boar suddenly and unexpectedly tried to get up again. I immediately grabbed my P7 in my pocket for the finishing shot. In the excitement, however, I somehow got stuck with the gun and grabbed it tighter. As soon as the pistol was just out of the pocket, a bullet struck the ground two inches from the tip of my right foot. Despite my shock, I was able to finally kill the almost completely standing wild boar with a second shot in the head. What has happened: Due to the firmer grip, I had cocked the P7 unnoticed and then pulled the trigger when the pistol came out of the pocket. Or I may have already pulled the trigger while pulling the pistol forcefully and cocked the pistol when it came free. But that doesn't matter for this unwanted shot in front of my foot, because it is inherent in the system that you can accidentally cock the P7 if you grip it tightly or fire it if you cock it with the trigger accidentally pulled. Now one could criticize that I didn't carry the P7 in a holster, but the whole incident would not have happened at all with a DA/SA pistol, even if carried in a pants pocket. Just a week after the incident, I traded this insecure P7 towards the purchase of a new DA/SA pistol.
What an amazing story. Thank you for sharing it with us. I do understand the circumstances and things do happen in moments of high stress. But I believe, based on your story, that there were other things at play here that contributed to this accident rather than just the gun’s fault. I’m glad you didn’t get hurt either by the gun or by the charging boar. Thank you for stopping by.
Pulled mine out after 30 yrs. Only fired X2 now getting formal training for CCW. Interested in seeing if I will use it after using trainer’s equipment. He didn’t think much of it. Any feedback on how it compares to new tech?
@@MDpolo stop saying that...it is NOT that expensive to make. They were expensive because HK charged them that way just like their over priced $4K AR15's. They stopped making them because they were too unsafe for the average person to operate......teaching the average person not to pull a trigger with one finger while pulling the cocker with four fingers doesn't work well. If the design has been self cocking with the cocker being a grip safety, there would have been no problem....plus there are too many operators who have an issue with that 13 pounds it takes to squeeze that cocker.
@@chadhaire1711whether or not you consider it a bad design or not I’m wondering, I’m a 33 year machine shop veteran, if you’ve ever looked into shop wages, hourly shop rates, tax rate of firearms manufacturing in Germany + the amount of machining involved for Germany to produce p-7 VZ vs say a polymer framed with metal inserts and basically only a slide being machined here in USA. I have a very very strong belief that not only that but the fact that i’d bet anything that the tolerances would be much higher on a P-7 with a unique gas system vs a mass production pistol using a Browning system like that used in the majority of most common pistols. Not starting an argument with you just attempting you to see it from another point without even mentioning tariffs.
The pistol is not completely ambidextrous. On the left side above the squeeze lever there is a slide hold open button above where normal mag release buttons are on American pistols. It’s almost hidden and most people don’t know it’s there.
@@MDpolo your welcome. I actually have two pistols. One is in S. Carolina being reconditioned and refinished and the other is a rare original nickel finished model.
I bought my P7M8 Chantilly model about 2 years before it was discontinued. I like it very much. Only complaint is the heat on trigger guard, and some silly safety message printed on the right side of the slide. I like it for its accuracy, safety and easy concealed carry. Mine only has about 100 rounds through it and cost me $1500 brand new.
Best pistol ever. I’ve had five of them still have one that will stay in the family wish I had all five my K3 and 380 was my favorite my next favorite and in my opinion the best one was the PSP the real original P7 and I particularly love the imports with a purple slide those are really cool and really hard to find
I carry the HK P7 M13 and I think it is the best gunfighting pistol ever made. They were tested by the US army as a carry weapon. They fired 5000 rounds through them with not one failure whatsoever. The reason that they didn't pick up the HK was the cost. The govt has to count their pennnies even though they waste billions. I love mine and I would never sell it.
Thank you for sharing and for watching. It is an amazing pistol indeed and one of my all-time favorites. Cheers!
I hope you never have to use it because you will never get it back
P7 failed military tests and over heats........
Have always been a fan of German guns, the Sig P-228 being my favorite go-to gun.
The P7 is no doubt, what started everything. We appreciate the excellent video and beautiful photography!
Thank you very much for your kind words and for taking the time to stop by.
I chose and carried this gun (actually the P7 M8 model) as my backup weapon when I was a Sheriff Deputy (now retired). My department used the Beretta 92F as the approved on-duty weapon. The H&K P7 M8 is extremely accurate, quickest "shoot-ready" of any pistol I have ever owned or shot and easy to carry. It served me well and I still have this gun and love it. I will never sell it. I thank my extremely knowledgeable range master for turning me onto it.
Thank you very much for sharing your story and for watching. I really appreciate it. The P7 is one of my all-time favorite pistols. Stay healthy and safe.
@@MDpolo Thank you for your excellent channel and wonderful presentation of this awesome pistol.
Welcome to the P7 world. I discovered the P7 pistols in 1985 and as a lefty, was attracted to it for the truly full ambi design. As a lefty, it made things more easy for me. When I bought mine it was $459 in Shotgun News. The fatter M13 version was $499. The difference between the grips on the M8 v M13 is substantial. With my smaller hands the choice was obvious. Over the years my Chantilly vintage fat trigger P7M8 has become quite the favorite of H&K P7 geeks. As I learned more about Heckler and Koch I wound up buying a USPc in 45ACP and in stainless steel. Within a year I procured one of the ‘last 500’ which I chose to reduce my wear and tear in my new IF (1985) pistol. The second P7 is dated 2007. (AH date code). Addicted now to the HK company, I chose a P30, quickly followed by the recent release of the VP9., I quickly reserved two VP9s in 2014. Since the P7 is striker fired, I was curious to see how a modern HK striker fired pistol was built. The terrific grips made the VP9 a favorite. I then learned more about the P2000 model, a transitional model for HK between their USP handguns and the more modern design of the VP9s. When opportunities arose, I acquired additional slides and magazines. A VP40 slide and barrel quickly transformed my VP9s into VP40s. The P2000SK I purchased also had several attractive popularity features. With the addition of another P2000SK (subcompact) slide and barrel in 40SW it became a P2000 40. With just another barrel, it became a 357SIG. Even the magazines are shared between a 40 and a 357SIG. I soon discovered that even magazines are quite common across the firearms-a tremendous advantage within HK. And then HK introduced their longer slides, and barrels. So, I had to get a VP9 Match in 9mm with the longer barrel, and made Optically Ready. (Acro). Accuracy wise, the P7 is fairly unmatched, despite its shorter barrel. Benefiting from the longer slide and Match barrel, the VP9 Match is right up there. The USPc is also very accurate. The polygonal rifling (check your pronunciation) is unmatched in the gun world. Yes, the HK pricing is a bit rough on people but you will never lose money on an HK. The P7M8 is one of several pistols on my daily carry list (CCW) but two things work against this. First, it is a very heavy pistol, despite its size. Compared to my P2000SK it is significantly heavier. Second, if I am ever involved in a self defense shooting, law enforcement will undoubtedly hold the P7 in their evidence locker-and due to its value, may end up magically going missing at some time, when it’s time to get it back. Of all my HKs, the model I can afford to lose would be the P2000SK. I so much would like a subcompact VP9 next, for extended carry. Commonality of magazines is a big plus.
Wow, thank you for all that information. I have several HK pistols in my most recent purchase was a USPc in 45 Auto. I belong to a friend of mine and he had install the Grey Guns flat trigger and try to con night sights. Love this gun. Another one of my favorites is my USP full size also in 45 Auto. It is a first generation pistol. Good friend of mine let me shoot his P2000SK. I really enjoyed it and almost purchased one but ended up going with a VP9SK.Thank you very much for stopping by.
Such an interesting and beautiful pistol. A year ago I never thought I’d be interested in handguns at all. Now I study every bit I can get away with each day. Thanks for the video.
It truly is beautiful. Welcome to the community! Thank you very much for watching.
I have the P7 M13 it has a heat shield and US style mag release. I haven’t carried it for a number of years because of inadequately powered 9 mm ammunition. Since the ammunition makers have improved 9 mm I will carry this more often. I must say the only drawback I have is it is like carrying a boat anchor compared to the micro 9MM guns like the Sig 365xl. They can use the 17 round magazines! I love the fact that if someone gets my P7 more than likely they will not know how it operates and will be trying to rack rounds instead of manipulating the squeeze cocker.
I’ve owned H&K’s for years while in law enforcement I carried the PSP has my backup weapon I later purchased the H&K P7M8 best pistols ever made and most accurate!!!
Superb review! You covered all aspects of this pistol. Yes the review is longer but for enthusiasts it was just right! Thank you!
I appreciate your kind words. This is one of my all-time favorite handguns. Thank you so much for stopping by.
Great video!! I own a P7M13 that I bought from a friend (matching box and two mags) and just love it! Another difference between the original P7 and the P7M8 and P7M13 is that they have larger trigger guards.
Thank you and congratulations. Awesome pistol. Thanks for watching!
Don’t remember how I stumbled upon your channel, but I like the vids so far!
+C4_BooM thank you. I enjoy making them.
I have a PSP 4 digit sn. And 2 extra mags. All under $900. Fun watching the value go up. Missed out years ago on a brand new P7 M13 sat forever at $1300. Wished I would have bought it.
That was a good deal for sure! Thank you very much for watching.
Awesome gun, thanks for review.
+Ernesto geek You are welcome. This truly is one of my all-time favorites.
My p7 is a four digit seial number. Love the woodgrips.
Congratulations. It is special.
Beautiful and marvelous fit and finish
It is spectacular. Thank you very much for watching.
This is best, and safest, and most accurate pistol I have ever owned. I had two of the original P7's , which I sold when acquiring my current P7M8.
It is a firearm that you can carry with a round in the chamber, and not have any condition that can cause an inadvertent discharge.
Squeezing the cooking handle, following the insertion of a fresh magazine, releases the slide, clambering a round.
Should you ever find yourself in a panic situation (following a reload), you can squeeze the cocking lever, while the trigger depressed, and your P7 will release the slide, chamber a round,and fire, all in a single motion!
No finer pistol has ever been available. I won't ever sell mine.
They are truly awesome! Thank you very much for stopping by.
P7 M13 owner here. It's a plum Chantilly. Is it the best? Hard to say, but it's extremely reliable, accurate and an engineer's wet dream. It's nice to see what people can devise when Penny Pinchers are kept out of the loop. I'm not rich by any means but I'm just trying to say that human imagination it's an incredible thing.
There was another pistol, made in South Africa that employed a gas piston delayed blowback system before the Walther CCP. It's name is escapes me at the moment, but I believe they were covered by Ian at Forgotten Weapons. I seem to remember they had a polymer frame and thus, heat transfer to the trigger guard wasn't nearly as bad as the steel framed P7s. After 4 consecutive mags through mine, it's starting to get awfully hot. Thanks for the vid, it's always nice hearing about these beautiful guns.
An afterthought, I'm pretty certain mine has tritium in the sights, but they're so dim you can only see it when the lights are off and your eyes have adjusted to the darkness.
+WhiteDwarfVR4 thank you for sharing this info with me. Indeed the P7 is amazing. I have not heard about the South African pistol that you mention but now I’m curious so I’ll do some research on it and see what I can find. Thanks for watching and stay safe and healthy.
@@MDpolo it's the vektor cp1. Can't find anything on forgotten weapons, but I hope that helps
Thanks, you do the same.
Since you've asked, I have a P7M8 that I bought new in a local gunshop and range around 2001. It's the most accurate handgun that I've ever shot, and I've shot many of them in my life.
Congratulations! It is awesome. Thanks for watching.
Yes, I really like mine. Best handgun ever.
PSP here. I got it in a trade for a gun which was given to me, had it refinished at Ford's in Crystal River, FL, total invested in it
That’s incredible. Congratulations. Thank you very much for watching.
It is the best pistol ever made. H&K should bring it back. In the same way Colt brought back the Python because machining equipment has improved so it wasn’t as expensive to produce I believe the same should apply to the H&K squeeze cocker model. H& K has all they need to reintroduce it. If not H&K another manufacturer should seek to obtain the rights.
One of my all-time favorites. Thank you for stopping by.
I don’t know if it’s your color grading but damn the finish looks wild on yours. Mine is like... plum plum colored. Like a dark purple now. It’s so ugly I want to get it refinished
As you know, the plum finished are considered rare in the P7 world. Personal preference, but I would not refinish it...
MDpolo Gun Channel you are right , DO NOT REFINSH, all those guys want to chrome em and buy those wood grips are killing gun values. The finish is character of gun,i think . Hk p_7 mags run 140.oo and box is 150,00 . I was lucky to get an extra mag at time i got gun in 2008 hk trussville psp b grade . 749.oo otd . I traded a new box of 9 mm black talons for second magazine.
I purchased mine in Germany in late 1983 at the post rec center. Mine is the German version but I added the NIL grips a few years ago. Mine came with the carboard box and the box and all documents are in original condition. My magazine release is also different from the one you reviewed. The serial number is in the 52xxx range.
Congratulations. They are amazing pistols. Thank you for sharing and for watching.
What you are discribing is a commercial P7 PSP.
I have one out of '82 with the Serial 50***.
Nice guns with the first magazine release. The german police has problems with that magazine release and changed it. The problems where that the outstanding release button and the seat belt clasps in their cars. Thats the difference between the P7 PSP and the later P7.
Greetings from Germany.
Good information. Thank you for sharing!
@@MDpolo You're welcome! Have a nice day.
Those are the best wood grips I’ve seen on a P7. Where can I get those?
Look at Nill Grips. They are the best. Thank you for watching.
Thanx. I just picked up a P7M8. I’m pretty excited.
German Engineering at its finest - just like the Luger but more advanced and much safer (a partial field stripped Luger can still discharge). Love the grip panels, too. However you have to maintain trigger discipline with your index finger when you grip the P7 firmly for the draw. Pulling the trigger and then the squeeze cocker will cause a negligent discharge. But that's not the guns fault. If you don't want to shoot, stay out of the trigger guard!
The gas delay system can also cope with different loadings much better than other systems like the Browning one. If it's a weaker load, the mechanism resistance will be weaker, fire P++ and it will adjust itself to stronger resistance. Try this with a spring loaded action.
Thank you very much for the information and for taking the time to stop by.
I have both a HK PSP sna an M13. Boy fo I live them
I have original matching boxes, cleaning rod
Congratulations!
I have one; take a look at the newish Archon Firearms Type B.
@jagervw - been looking for an Archon Type B for a while. No luck yet. Thanks for watching!
Beautiful pistol
I had one sold it like an idiot few years ago
I wish I can afford one in those days prices
I’ll take the Pipe o_O
They are pretty amazing. Thank you very much for watching.
Nice job MD
+LWRC BCM thank you for watching. I appreciate your comment.
+LWRC BCM thank you and thanks for watching!
My favorite pistol ever.. I would take it over any.. I have the p7m8 and would love a m13..I have the same wood grips although my finish is not in as good of shape. I got it used a has some holster wear
Congratulations. They are awesome. Thank you very much for watching.
@@MDpolo No problem sir great video! I subbed!
It's now $5000~6000 for a P7M13 and $3000~4000 for a P7M8 in California. You have the rarity of P7s in general compounded with the import ban from the other 49 states due to the CA approved handgun roster, so Californians can only buy P7s already in California. Technically, transfer of the M13 magazines are illegal as well.
I own a P&M8 that I bought in 2008 at the Cabela’s in Fort Worth. It was a trade in of 2 pistols. One had never been shot and one that had minimal rounds through it. I bought the unfired one. I was working there since the store had opened and had seen lots of HK’s come through the Gun Library. These were my Holy Grail HK’s. We had gotten a bunch of PSP’s in from HK that had been refurbished after the German Police retired theirs and HK sent them to the us. They were selling at the time for between $500-600. A great deal for a PSP. Most of ours had the purple hue to the slide like this one. This one may have been one of the batch of refurbished police guns. My P7M8 has a blued finish but not a polished finish,slightly Matt like this one. My P7 is my daily carry. I have added walnut grips similar to this one. Very comfortable to shoot.
It is very comfortable to shoot. Thank you so much for sharing your story and for taking the time to stop by.
Comment from Germany on the P7: Based on my own experience, I can say that the P7 is one of the most unsafe pistols ever designed because it will fire if you accidentally cock it with the grip cocking while the trigger is pulled. This has happened repeatedly in Germany, even with a fatal outcome.
My own experience happened in 1987. I shot a heavy boar at night on a meadow strip between a corn field and the forest, which immediately collapsed. After the shot I went to the wild boar lying quietly 30m away. Convinced that the boar was dead, I walked to the edge of the forest 5m away and leaned my gun at a tree to have both hands free to gut the boar and then went back to the boar. When I was about 1.5m away, the boar suddenly and unexpectedly tried to get up again. I immediately grabbed my P7 in my pocket for the finishing shot. In the excitement, however, I somehow got stuck with the gun and grabbed it tighter. As soon as the pistol was just out of the pocket, a bullet struck the ground two inches from the tip of my right foot. Despite my shock, I was able to finally kill the almost completely standing wild boar with a second shot in the head.
What has happened: Due to the firmer grip, I had cocked the P7 unnoticed and then pulled the trigger when the pistol came out of the pocket. Or I may have already pulled the trigger while pulling the pistol forcefully and cocked the pistol when it came free. But that doesn't matter for this unwanted shot in front of my foot, because it is inherent in the system that you can accidentally cock the P7 if you grip it tightly or fire it if you cock it with the trigger accidentally pulled. Now one could criticize that I didn't carry the P7 in a holster, but the whole incident would not have happened at all with a DA/SA pistol, even if carried in a pants pocket. Just a week after the incident, I traded this insecure P7 towards the purchase of a new DA/SA pistol.
What an amazing story. Thank you for sharing it with us. I do understand the circumstances and things do happen in moments of high stress. But I believe, based on your story, that there were other things at play here that contributed to this accident rather than just the gun’s fault. I’m glad you didn’t get hurt either by the gun or by the charging boar. Thank you for stopping by.
Pulled mine out after 30 yrs. Only fired X2 now getting formal training for CCW. Interested in seeing if I will use it after using trainer’s equipment. He didn’t think much of it. Any feedback on how it compares to new tech?
All I can tell you it is one of my all-time favorites. Absolutely love this handgun.
Beautiful piece nonetheless
Thank you and many thanks for watching!
loojinj ti buy a py m8
P7m8 desiymrrd!!! chad Bowlin
Do you think HK will ever put the p7 back into production?
I doubt it. It would be unbelievably expensive to manufacture today. Thank you for watching.
@@MDpolo stop saying that...it is NOT that expensive to make. They were expensive because HK charged them that way just like their over priced $4K AR15's. They stopped making them because they were too unsafe for the average person to operate......teaching the average person not to pull a trigger with one finger while pulling the cocker with four fingers doesn't work well. If the design has been self cocking with the cocker being a grip safety, there would have been no problem....plus there are too many operators who have an issue with that 13 pounds it takes to squeeze that cocker.
I never had a problem squeezing my cocker.
13 lbs is the initial force needed.
About 2 lbs to maintain.
@@rnettles6241 The very reason it was a bad design LOL.....
@@chadhaire1711whether or not you consider it a bad design or not I’m wondering, I’m a 33 year machine shop veteran, if you’ve ever looked into shop wages, hourly shop rates, tax rate of firearms manufacturing in Germany + the amount of machining involved for Germany to produce p-7 VZ vs say a polymer framed with metal inserts and basically only a slide being machined here in USA. I have a very very strong belief that not only that but the fact that i’d bet anything that the tolerances would be much higher on a P-7 with a unique gas system vs a mass production pistol using a Browning system like that used in the majority of most common pistols. Not starting an argument with you just attempting you to see it from another point without even mentioning tariffs.
My thought is that I want one.
They are superb. Thank you for watching.
The pistol is not completely ambidextrous. On the left side above the squeeze lever there is a slide hold open button above where normal mag release buttons are on American pistols. It’s almost hidden and most people don’t know it’s there.
You are correct, most people that own them do not know about in the slide open button. Thank you very much for watching.
@@MDpolo your welcome. I actually have two pistols. One is in S. Carolina being reconditioned and refinished and the other is a rare original nickel finished model.
@@jrherpin nice!
Not stainless steel
Blued Carbon steel
The purple hue is from slightly out of spec bluing process that was done at the factory.
Thank you
I want to by a P7M13 in this plumb color. Let me now. Thanks
Not sure what you would like for me to let you know. Thank you for watching.
I bought my P7M8 Chantilly model about 2 years before it was discontinued. I like it very much. Only complaint is the heat on trigger guard, and some silly safety message printed on the right side of the slide. I like it for its accuracy, safety and easy concealed carry. Mine only has about 100 rounds through it and cost me $1500 brand new.
Congratulations on your purchase and thank you very much for sharing your story with us. I appreciate you taking the time to stop by.
looking to replace my HKP7M8; mine was stolen from my safe in my office.
C. M. Bowlin
STOP MAKING COOL VIDEOS!!! I'm spending too much time watching videos from your channel.
+mrjpmd424 thank you. I enjoy making them. Thanks for watching!
Best pistol ever. I’ve had five of them still have one that will stay in the family wish I had all five my K3 and 380 was my favorite my next favorite and in my opinion the best one was the PSP the real original P7 and I particularly love the imports with a purple slide those are really cool and really hard to find
One of my all-time favorites. Thank you so much for stopping by.