For the people who are wondering why shane lost control of the table in the opening rack, there is a rule which is used in some tournaments and its called an official break which is that 3 balls have to be pocketed or pass the line where u break from (in total) and if not then its called an illegal break and ur opponent has the control of the table. For example, the first rack shane pocketes the one ball and one ball only crossed the line so thats 2 balls only. Thats why it was an "illegal break" and shane lost control of the table.
@@ChrisG0 well he cant push its just that hee either takes the shot or give it back to shane. Its similar to making a ball in a wrong pocket in 10 ball then the opponent has the choice to shoot or give it back.
Watching these two great champions play I feel like I'm observing two of the best best players playing today. This is the limit as to how good pocket billiards can be played and my best days are behind me now but i'm still trying to achieve something close to this at least before it's over. Such a treat. Also check out 40:46 where SVB shoots the 2 ball off the rail with perfect reverse spin to go in between the 8 and 9 for perfect shape on the 3. If it were possible for a player to win a tournament just because of how smooth they played SVB would never lose another tournament.
The Mosconi referees ref for Snooker. Standards are much, much, much higher. Plus Snooker referees actually have an extremely major role vs. billiards referees...which most rarely cleans the cue ball, only called to watch for a possible foul, barely racks (player racks, loser racks....) keep points? (Again, player responsibilities) the list kind of just goes on....and on.......I’m not downtalking American pool in the slightest. Just comparing referee responsibilities.
How times have changed. If my memory is correct in the early part of this century the winner picked up around $250,000? In 2018 the total purse for the event was $200,000.
Shane had an illegal break. 3 balls have to cross the upper headstring to be deemed a "legal" break. That didn't happen, and doesn't matter if a ball is made on the break.
ref fing around with the score clock at @46:53 causing Shane to scratch on the break...then it doesn't even have double digits...goes from 9:5 to 0:5 lol, and the ref Still writes down the score anyway...why not just use flip cards?
Help me with this ~ in the very beginning Shane broke and made the one ball, still have control of the table but he stands back and Chris looks at the table and gives the shot back to Shane, so wheres the push out?
It was an illegal break. 4 balls should cross into the head of the table. Since only 3 did, Chris had the option to shoot or pass it back to Shane. No push shots on illegal breaks.
I think we all want to know why Shane pockets the one on the first break and Chris comes to the table with no actual push . New rule maybe ? Could Shane have just said push without actually rolling the cueball? The ref did say something as Chris came to the table but I don't know what it was .
Shane had an illegal break the opponent has the choice of pushing out or playing safe if he doesn't like the shot he can give it back to the original breaker but the original breaker can't push out
Chris struggles with the breakshot. He has some of the best fundamentals and creativity in the game. You could even say he's one of the most skilled pool players alive right now. But as you all know the breakshot is the most important to win tournaments, that's why Shane has the advantage EVERYONE. And to me I feel Shane took it up a notch this year, he is just too solid of a player now. Such a beast.
For one, it's Pool. This isn't Serena Williams outclassing all of her opponents naturally, all these guys are fricking ballers. You can't just win every fucking match by talent alone, there's more randomness than that.
@@christ5805 You're 100% correct. In the local tournaments around where I live, people ask me why I'm not winning alot more. I don't have an official Fargo Rateing, but I would gues it's around 500. But I really struggle with the breakshot, and that's why I'm not able to win the local tournaments.
Why is this alternate 9-ball? I just watched one match between Johann Chua and SVB and another between Manny Perez and SVB also. Johann was ahead 2 to 0 and Manny was behind Shane 0 to 9. Shane both times went on the hill 10 to 2 for Johann and 10 to 1 for Manny. Because it was winner break 9-ball Shane was able to run 10 racks both times. If it had been alternate break, both Johann and Manny would have no chance, none, not anyway to come back and win. Even if Johann was behind 6 to 2 or Manny was behind 6 to 1 they would still have zero chance to win with alternate breaking. But with winner break, at those scores, they still could win if enough racks like Shane were ran. Winner break is traditional 9-ball played for centuries and the most fairest way to play the game. Alternate break is something new made by small thinkers and is the least fairest game to play.
At 3:17 Melling is hooked. He needs to make a good hit on the 2 ball. Not only does he make a good hit, he hits it twice! I didn't think it was possible to hit it once. What are the odds of that happening?
@@luckyduckimona9787 I just asked what the odds of that happening were. But I'll take your advice and give up playing pool! Thank you so much for your words of wisdom.
9th rack I'm surprised at Chris's choice of safety vs just kicking at the two. Then his weak safety after getting it back. Seeing some of his famous daring shots where jump cues weren't allowed, it just seems he has let off on his use of imagination. That's what he's famous for.
Robert Ward the Americans possibly have the easiest and hardest of all the cue sports though!!!..."9 ball" being the easiest and "one pocket" the most taxing on the mind.
To be honest, I don’t understand why at such a professional level the pros still play 9-Ball with this break setup. You just see how they are bored. They played 4-5 saveties the whole match. It’s just too easy. And that’s why the game doesn’t going forward. They should play Rotation or at least the break should be so difficult, that it’s hard to tell which balls are going where...or the 9-Ball should be pocketed the cross corner from the 8. No combinations allowed. Or at least one ball should be pocketed via a bank shot. If they do something like these, you will much more intense and importantly interesting matches, where you need just a little bit more skills and more thinking other then potting 6 Ball opened on the table.
Well first of all its a 9-ball championship. Dont be fooled by thinking that this is easy, its 9 ball on the spot alternate break official break rule applied and i assume its a 9 foot table. Its just that you are watching the "TOP" players of the game, so ofcourse they will make it look easy.
Random Gaming hate to burst your bubble, but it could be played on a 12 foot table, still wouldn't change the fact, of all the cue sports, 9 ball is the easiest of the lot maximum balls potted on a snooker table is 36 per frame...
I agree man. I wish it was different, but the reason they play 9 ball so often is the fact that the rules are almost universal. Games like 8 ball have many different rules throughout the world and leads to a lot of conflicting opinions about how it should be played.
Lucky ducki Mona I agree... not by much though! I was just making the Point that it's seriously difficult to have a hard placed ball, in the game of 9 ball, even if none are pocketed on the break.
I got disappointed @ 8:35, when Mr Melling, instead of trying to go for the next (#2) ball, just pushed the que ball away, hoping to make it almost inaccessible for the opponent! Clever, but NOT FAIR PLAY! I don't care even if he wins this game; for me he is already defeated! Shame shame...
Its called a "push out". The reciever of a push out has two options, take the shot, or give it back to the opponent, who has to take it. The push out can only be used as the first shot after each break.
For the people who are wondering why shane lost control of the table in the opening rack, there is a rule which is used in some tournaments and its called an official break which is that 3 balls have to be pocketed or pass the line where u break from (in total) and if not then its called an illegal break and ur opponent has the control of the table. For example, the first rack shane pocketes the one ball and one ball only crossed the line so thats 2 balls only. Thats why it was an "illegal break" and shane lost control of the table.
Thanks. I replayed the first break twice, and gave up trying to figure out what was happening.
That sucks, i know some do the 3 balls have to hit a rail on the break rule
@@ChrisG0 well he cant push its just that hee either takes the shot or give it back to shane. Its similar to making a ball in a wrong pocket in 10 ball then the opponent has the choice to shoot or give it back.
Dumbest fucking rule ever.
I also re played it wondering why he didn't continue shooting. I've never heard of such a rule
I love this format with no commentators, you hear other matches in the background, you get the actual feel of being there. Great match.
Watching these two great champions play I feel like I'm observing two of the best best players playing today. This is the limit as to how good pocket billiards can be played and my best days are behind me now but i'm still trying to achieve something close to this at least before it's over. Such a treat.
Also check out 40:46 where SVB shoots the 2 ball off the rail with perfect reverse spin to go in between the 8 and 9 for perfect shape on the 3. If it were possible for a player to win a tournament just because of how smooth they played SVB would never lose another tournament.
thanks for uploading
I DID notice how Shane slowed this match down considerably!!!
Great strategy against a FAST player like Melling!!! 😎🖒
Great match, for those who enjoy 9 ball, we don't need play by play comments.
Description should say Race to 11.
I love how the ref walks right in front of Melling as he's about to break the 4th rack. Nowhere near the same level as the Mosconi Cup refs
19:43
@@napochulo Thanks! I should have put that...
@@jasonmiller9738 ha. Yeah I can't sit and watch full games so if I mention a highlight I put the time stamp.
The Mosconi referees ref for Snooker. Standards are much, much, much higher. Plus Snooker referees actually have an extremely major role vs. billiards referees...which most rarely cleans the cue ball, only called to watch for a possible foul, barely racks (player racks, loser racks....) keep points? (Again, player responsibilities) the list kind of just goes on....and on.......I’m not downtalking American pool in the slightest. Just comparing referee responsibilities.
Good luck Melling you're gonna need it
I ❤️ this game
Their cues look pretty awsome
How times have changed. If my memory is correct in the early part of this century the winner picked up around $250,000? In 2018 the total purse for the event was $200,000.
Chris Melling has such a sweet cue action! Snookeresque.
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If this is a race to 9(as said in description) why did shane have to win 11 games to win the match?
Shane sees the lines, for sure; all of them
0:20 he potted the one ball bottom corner what happened did he immediately pass it , because the other guy walked up to the table way tooquickly
44:56 - Good view of Shane’s stroke
SVB so fundamentally sound, pure stroke
At 10:54 how to do backspin? When I try backspin I just scoop jump the ball.
Practice.. same with me before
@@jamiepoarch146 I'll keep that in mind
The sound of the cue on the break is awesome. What kind of cue is Shane using ?
Has any one tried the laser stroke training aid? And did it help your game?
Dam I feel like shootin some racks now , 4 AM
buy your own table and you can shoot anytime you damn well want. Make it a 9fter or better for the most satisfaction is my advice.
Mellen takes some time to warm up. Slow pace kept him on ice.
It must be in the rules that the 2 is racked in the back?
8:24 what happened there, and why did Chris get to go again after?
Push up
Push out. Not push up
@1:04:00 The scoreboard shows 9 for Shane. Why another break? Race to 11?
Shane breaking with his playing cue?
Shane has a little wrist pop? @46:15
18:19 holy shit what a stroke.
That is normal, for a pro 9-ball player. hahah
I don't get what's so impressive? I play pool, what am I missing?
on fast table and with revo shaft its an easy shot.
poolshark7896 what’s a revo shaft
@@chriskozub8012 predator carbon shaft
what the hell color is that 4 ball?
Gone are the days where the world 9-ball championship used to be "world class"
I will challenge any of you guys
hope the ref returned those mitts to mickey mouse when the tournament was done.
hahaha! now that's funny. Pool humor.
@59:53, Chris missed the three ball pretty bad, contacting the rail at the second diamond.
Is this on a bar table? The angle of the camera feels strange. Thanks to anyone who enlightens me.
No..9 foot
Was this a race to 9 or did I miss a memo...?
Why did chris come to the table after the 1st break? Shane made the 1 ball on the break
Shane had an illegal break.
3 balls have to cross the upper headstring to be deemed a "legal" break.
That didn't happen, and doesn't matter if a ball is made on the break.
Gey question why in the opening break did shane loose the break? He pocketed the 1 ball but Chris took control of the table why?
I was wondering the same thing. Maybe so many balls are required to go past the side pocket or something?
Official break rule which is that 3 balls either pass the line that u break from or get in a pocket.(in total)
Haha gey
I have the exact same cue Chris Melling has. Ikon 3-5
ref fing around with the score clock at @46:53 causing Shane to scratch on the break...then it doesn't even have double digits...goes from 9:5 to 0:5 lol, and the ref Still writes down the score anyway...why not just use flip cards?
I love this game. SVB and CM make mistakes here and there. Shows that they're still human 😜
Help me with this ~ in the very beginning Shane broke and made the one ball, still have control of the table but he stands back and Chris looks at the table and gives the shot back to Shane, so wheres the push out?
It was an illegal break. 4 balls should cross into the head of the table. Since only 3 did, Chris had the option to shoot or pass it back to Shane. No push shots on illegal breaks.
A total of 3 or more object balls must be either pocketed or passed the head string. The cue ball doesn't count.
@@dukeellington1987 thank you
@@p.j.petree4814 thank you
Pat Niccolai
Don't thank him, he was wrong, the pj dummy.
So im confused why does Chris get to shoot again after 8:27?
Thats a push shot by chris. Shane can take it or pass it.
the difference in "Skill" level is clear!... Chris isn't Obsessed with Chalking has Shane is!!!
This is magic these 1st cpl racks magically sold out lol
Chris has a pure stroke.
I think we all want to know why Shane pockets the one on the first break and Chris comes to the table with no actual push . New rule maybe ? Could Shane have just said push without actually rolling the cueball? The ref did say something as Chris came to the table but I don't know what it was .
Shane had an illegal break the opponent has the choice of pushing out or playing safe if he doesn't like the shot he can give it back to the original breaker but the original breaker can't push out
leoandsan thx
Official break rule which is that 3 balls have to be pocketed or pass the line where u break from (in total)
So if u dont its called and illegal break and ur opponent has the control of the table
Random Gaming not sure what you meant, it seems like the first part of your comment got deleted
I always wonder,,how is Chris Melling NOT world champ? Just from watching him shoot I cant figure out how he loses a match?
NM,,lmao
Chris struggles with the breakshot. He has some of the best fundamentals and creativity in the game. You could even say he's one of the most skilled pool players alive right now. But as you all know the breakshot is the most important to win tournaments, that's why Shane has the advantage EVERYONE. And to me I feel Shane took it up a notch this year, he is just too solid of a player now. Such a beast.
For one, it's Pool. This isn't Serena Williams outclassing all of her opponents naturally, all these guys are fricking ballers. You can't just win every fucking match by talent alone, there's more randomness than that.
@@christ5805 You're 100% correct. In the local tournaments around where I live, people ask me why I'm not winning alot more. I don't have an official Fargo Rateing, but I would gues it's around 500. But I really struggle with the breakshot, and that's why I'm not able to win the local tournaments.
Gotta beat the world champ to be the world champ
looks like the race is to 11 not 9.
Why is this alternate 9-ball? I just watched one match between Johann Chua and SVB and another between Manny Perez and SVB also. Johann was ahead 2 to 0 and Manny was behind Shane 0 to 9. Shane both times went on the hill 10 to 2 for Johann and 10 to 1 for Manny. Because it was winner break 9-ball Shane was able to run 10 racks both times. If it had been alternate break, both Johann and Manny would have no chance, none, not anyway to come back and win. Even if Johann was behind 6 to 2 or Manny was behind 6 to 1 they would still have zero chance to win with alternate breaking. But with winner break, at those scores, they still could win if enough racks like Shane were ran. Winner break is traditional 9-ball played for centuries and the most fairest way to play the game. Alternate break is something new made by small thinkers and is the least fairest game to play.
I think that doesn’t make sense. Alternate break is clearly the fairest way to play.
I thought this was a race to "9" ???🤔
At 3:17 Melling is hooked. He needs to make a good hit on the 2 ball. Not only does he make a good hit, he hits it twice! I didn't think it was possible to hit it once. What are the odds of that happening?
141poolplayer
Well, if you don't figure that, you should give up pool.
@@luckyduckimona9787 I just asked what the odds of that happening were. But I'll take your advice and give up playing pool! Thank you so much for your words of wisdom.
I'm gonna quit too. Why continue when I can't event remark at a brilliant out from a tough position?
C. Alex Mateos
We will miss you, you were our biggest fish. 😢
compared to snooker, they're so slow between shots - its actually crazy
Will Gregory less room for error
No 9 ball rack? What treachery is this?
Is the 9 ball supposed to always end in the middle of that black thing?
this is asmr
For real lol
The guy recording this falls asleep and starts snoring at 8-5 Match
9th rack I'm surprised at Chris's choice of safety vs just kicking at the two. Then his weak safety after getting it back. Seeing some of his famous daring shots where jump cues weren't allowed, it just seems he has let off on his use of imagination. That's what he's famous for.
Chris drives me nuts with his poking around shenanigans... 🙄
56:42 that was a bad mother f*cker
Chris....great player with comical movements. He could easily play one of the Three Stooges.
Second frame at 30:41 lasts 2min 20 sec
Melling playing with no confidence
After watching snooker the past several years this seems so much more forgiving and less precise positionally.
Robert Ward it is in a way, but it also involves different strategy and a different way of thinking about positioning.
Apples and oranges...
Robert Ward the Americans possibly have the easiest and hardest of all the cue sports though!!!..."9 ball" being the easiest and "one pocket" the most taxing on the mind.
I think i heard in the Philippines 15 ball is a big game, so more room for positioning here...
Thank you for pointing this out Robert we had no idea snooker and pool are different games
Why the hell are they using the cheat cue ball with red dots?
Because it's broadcasted
This is the worst I've seen melling play...missing two safeties and leaving Shane with easy shots....melling is a great player. Great commentator too
@11:35
Baby elephant fat at 58:13!
To be honest, I don’t understand why at such a professional level the pros still play 9-Ball with this break setup. You just see how they are bored. They played 4-5 saveties the whole match. It’s just too easy. And that’s why the game doesn’t going forward. They should play Rotation or at least the break should be so difficult, that it’s hard to tell which balls are going where...or the 9-Ball should be pocketed the cross corner from the 8. No combinations allowed. Or at least one ball should be pocketed via a bank shot. If they do something like these, you will much more intense and importantly interesting matches, where you need just a little bit more skills and more thinking other then potting 6 Ball opened on the table.
Well first of all its a 9-ball championship. Dont be fooled by thinking that this is easy, its 9 ball on the spot alternate break official break rule applied and i assume its a 9 foot table. Its just that you are watching the "TOP" players of the game, so ofcourse they will make it look easy.
Random Gaming hate to burst your bubble, but it could be played on a 12 foot table, still wouldn't change the fact, of all the cue sports, 9 ball is the easiest of the lot
maximum balls potted on a snooker table is 36 per frame...
I agree man. I wish it was different, but the reason they play 9 ball so often is the fact that the rules are almost universal. Games like 8 ball have many different rules throughout the world and leads to a lot of conflicting opinions about how it should be played.
Ray D Ology
If it was played on a 12 ft, they wouldn't be as many run outs, so it would change the game.
Lucky ducki Mona I agree... not by much though! I was just making the Point that it's seriously difficult to have a hard placed ball, in the game of 9 ball, even if none are pocketed on the break.
damn shame caught a gear..
وعليكم سلام
God dam slow ain’t they
LMAO me too but 4 time...
Bruh.. Thts cheating if you can't break out the 9 ball.. On the break.. Triangle is wack as hell too..
Melling, think long, think wrong. Something to say about shouting quick like O'Sullivan and Strictland.
Huge pockets 😂
Snooker is much more professional game and more serious than this cirkus
I got disappointed @ 8:35, when Mr Melling, instead of trying to go for the next (#2) ball, just pushed the que ball away, hoping to make it almost inaccessible for the opponent! Clever, but NOT FAIR PLAY!
I don't care even if he wins this game; for me he is already defeated! Shame shame...
It's at 8:22. The angle is touch to judge whether it was a push or he just followed through..
That was 100% a push out. It is only allowed right after the break.
Its called a "push out".
The reciever of a push out has two options, take the shot, or give it back to the opponent, who has to take it.
The push out can only be used as the first shot after each break.
Good lord your watching and commenting on pool and you don’t know what a push out after the break is smh
watch something else please.. maybe u should watch the hands of a clock moving..