Europe's most complicated Through Sleeping Car: MÁV-START EuroNight Metropol Berlin - Budapest
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Train: MÁV-START EuroNight EN 40457
Brand Name: Metropol
From: Berlin Hauptbahnhof, Germany
To: Budapest-Keleti, Hungary
Route via: Frankfurt/Oder (Germany), Rzepin (Poland), Zielona Góra, Wrocław Główny, Chałupki, Bohumín (Czech Republic), Ostrava, Břeclav, Kúty (Slovakia), Bratislava, Nové Zámky, Štúrovo, Szob (Hungary), Vác
Though Car shunting in: Wrocław, Bohumín, and Břeclav
Through car groups:
PKP Intercity EN 50457 Berlin - Przemyśl (detached in Wrocław)
PKP Intercity IC 407 "Chopin" Warsaw - Budapest (attached in Bohumín)
PKP Intercity IC 407 "Chopin" Warsaw - Vienna (attached in Bohumín, detached in Břeclav)
ÖBB Nightjet NJ 457 Berlin - Vienna (detached in Břeclav)
České dráhy IC 575 "Metropol" Prague - Budapest (attached in Břeclav)
Travel Class: Double Sleeping Car cabin
Car No: 257
Berths: Lower 011 and Upper berth 015
Price: EUR 146 (for two persons in a Double sleeping car cabin)
Sleeping Car operator: MÁV-START, MÁV Nostalgia
Manufacturer and type: DWA Görlitz Wlabmee
Scheduled travel time (Berlin - Budapest): 13 hours and 52 minutes
Departure Berlin Hbf: 18h43 cet
Arrival Budapest-Keleti: 08h35 cet
Travel season: December 2021
Occupancy: 70%
Train operators: DB Fernverkehr, PKP Intercity, České dráhy (ČD), ZSSK, MÁV-START
Electric Locomotive Berlin - Bohumin: PKP Intercity Husarz EU44-004 (Siemens 1251 / 5 370 004)
Electric Locomotive Bohumin - Břeclav: Škoda ČD 362 123-2
Electric Locomotive Břeclav - Budapest: Škoda ČD 380 010-9
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I went from Berlin to Budapest with this train this may, it was very comfortable in a 4 person couchette alone. Definitly better than a flight, arrives in the best possible time in both directions.
When on holiday in Berlin my wife and I used our Berlin travel card to get on the sbahn and do the circular or ring around the city gives you a great view of the city , I’d thoroughly recommend it, what happens to the people who had booked couchette tickets do they get upgraded. to sleeper or do they just have to travel another day, great post as usual
Complicated express
there is no carpeting in these new sleeper cars?
old sleeping car; there were built over 30 years ago
@@doc7austin they seem recently refurbished though
I enjoyed the ride, but when do you sleep? You seem to be up all night so that you/we don't miss anything. Thanks for taking me along.
I used this service back in April: I managed to screw up the date and could not modify the ticket though it cost 100 euro. I was beyond angry. The Hungarian train company needs some serious overhaul.
Fantastic video as usual.
I particularly love the implied cosiness of a train gliding across the Berlin cityscape on a cold winter's night at c. 30 mph/50kph.
It's a pity that Ireland is too small and that our trains are too fast to justify "sleeper" trains.
25:51 I live in Vác! Welcome in my town!😃
I see what you meant by complicated. I assume you stayed awake to make sure your car wasn't coupled to the wrong train. ;-)
Hello! Very nice videos! You are great! Can you do a Budapest- Brasov route, please? I recommend it, it is so cool, you will have views of the Romanian Mountains.
Look at 27:43, what the hell happened to the loco? Looks like it ran over a rather large animal.
Nice and informative video! As always.
But what's with the blood stains on the locomotive plow at minute 27:43? /:)
animal probably, happens often
Great video Doc as always. Love all your blogs/videos.👍
I took a EN train from Stuttgart to Budespest-Keleti on May 4, 2023 in a sleeper compartment. Booked for 109 Euros in a 3-bed configuration ( ALL COMPARTMENTS HAVE 3 BEDS BY THE WAY). As it was in the middle of the week, I had this compartment all for myself. Single occupancy would have cost me 70 Euros more. Be smart. travel on wednesday. What was the worst thing? Shower didn´t work, they locked the whole unit. But the sink was very usefull for washing, so no problem.
Doc: the breakfast looked like prison food and the headroom on the upper berth was reminiscent of a coffin.
Overnight trains are my favourite youtube videos.
1:39 a Dunakanyar...😃😃😃 A kedvenc helyem! (My favorite place.)
Great video as always :D
That train is a kind of a mishmash of German, Polish, Czech nad Hungarian cars, which in my opinion shows how the national carriers think about passengers and the trip quality. What I`m talking about?
Let`s look for example to the windows - as you mentioned the MAV START cars don`t have openable windows which is really strange, even if we treat those cars as sealed cars (despite the fact that they are not sealed). On the other hand we have Polish cars which are the top notch of the european sleeping cars and they have tilting upper part of the window to allow ventilation if the AC dosen`t work. Strange decision in the MAV START headquarters and the car manufacturer that offered that kind of solution.
But what is really concerning me about that train is that we have been talking about interoperability for many years but as we can see it is only partial.
The Siemens EuroSprinter from our national carrier (PKP IC) is used only from Germany to the Bohumin. Why it dose not lead the consit up to Breclav? It is equiped with PZB, SHP and MIREL national ATPs. I think that it might be connected to the scheduled circuits of the particular locomotive but it is quite strange that we have to use 2 or 3 locomotives during that trip.
And that shunting "episodes" of that trip... As a rail engineer, I think that despite Wrocław, they are overthinked in my opinion...
P.S. 22:17 vs. 27:41 - That ČD 380 might had a close contact with an animal :/
This kind of sleeping cars arrived to MÁV second hand used from WSBA. They are not as good as the CAF type sleeping cars of MÁV. Even the CAF couchettes way more better than this ex WSBA cars in my opinion.
Good point and the thing with PZB it's used by ÖBB to permit through running on Deutsche Bahn tracks. That way EU44 Huzarz stays down to Wien Hbf/Graz with while CD380 runs the Metropol Berlin Budapest Keleti section from Breclav (On Older Austria Hungary Documents the route is listed as Berlin Breslau German Empire Oderburg Lundenburg/Wien Budapest Keleti). The Polish Sleeper coaches are SUW2000 axles equipped that way when not needed to run Berlin Hbf it can run to Kyiv via Lviv & Premzyl
@@EpicThe112 Hi, first of all, the city name "Breslau" is not connected to Breclav, but Wrocław in Poland. That is the German name of that city.
Secondly, Sleeper coaches with SUW200 bogeys are not in use anymore due to the safety failures and few constrution mistakes which were made.
The main problem with the mentioned situation is that Polish Siemens ES64U4-D "EU44" Husarz (not Huzar/Huzarz) locomotives, which can leaglly operate on PKP PLK, DB Netz, OBB, ZSSK, SŽ rail networks, are not used on a complete route from Berlin to Graz, even if they technically could be.
They lead the NightJet train from Berlin Hbf. to Wrocław, where the NJ part to Przemyśl is disconnected and one of the Polish locomotives (EP07, EP08 or EP09) pulls the wagons to Przemyśl, but then EU44 goes only to Bohumin, where it is changed to CD 362 and then in Breclav "362" is swaped with CD 380 (part to Budapest) and OBB 1216 (part to Graz)...
@@KUBUTECH911 Thank you for the explanation.
@@gabesz I travelled all the way from Bratislava to Split in that type of sleeper (I call them "Russians" :D ) and it was perfectly comfortable for me. Haven't tried the CAF ones yet, though.
As far as I know now the CAF type is scheduled to be on Berlin - Budapest route.
@ 17:19 : Pretty comfortable ... When I see the space between the seats facing each other I think they are not comfortable as you say! Very little legroom!
If 6 people inside sitting compartment is not comfortable at all. If just three it is rather fine.
27:42 Looks like you hit something on the way =/
You apparently stayed up all night on a sleeper train. You're a better man than I am!
Wow, that looks like a very complicated train, but also amazing to see that all this shunting is done to provide a lot of night train services! This video was thrilling and atmospheric, I really enjoyed it!
We booked this train for August 2023. Berlin-Budapest. Our ticket says Nyugati but all the online resources say it goes to Keleti. Does anyone know for sure which station this train terminates at in Budapest??
They can change it until the last day. But it really doesn´t matter. Keleti and Nyugati are both directly in Budapest and are just only 15 minutes away from eachother by Metro. Both stations have Metro + Tram + Bus access.
Great trip. Shunting action at some station is something, maybe it takes time but it interesting to see.
Why sleeping coach when you were awake the whole night...
So that your ass won't get numb from sitting 🤔
This damn trip took us 25 HOURS, cause one EC/IC/loco forgot to pick us up in Poland because of a 40 Minutes delay in Rzepin or Frankfurt
So we basically spent the night standing in poland.
Pro: Could change from a 4p couchette to a single sleeper in the morning since they where all moved to day trains or left somewhere?!
In the morning IC passengers tried getting inside our 4p chouchette cause it seats 6 basically.
Hello. Doc, I hope that You have felt yourself very well in Hungary, Budapest! 😉In the years of 90's, from Budapest You can travel with train directly to Paris, Malmö, Moscow and Istanbul too. Nice video, Thank you very much! 👍
The old route used Dresden Hbf Schöna Bad Schandau Elbtalbahn from Prague. The final section of your sleeper coach using the original pre 2018-2020 termination was Dresden Radebul Ost Großenhein Berliner Bahnhof Elsterwerda Berlin hbf. The trip from Budapest Keleti would have been shorter if the old route was restored to Berlin via Prague Dresden Hbf Elsterwerda from Breclav & Budapest by having CD 380 run Budapest Keleti Dresden Hbf via Prague Breclav then DB BR101/182 Dresden Hbf Berlin via Elsterwerda and Großenhein Berliner Bahnhof. On the German and Austrian Hungarian maps of the route shunting occurs at Breslau Oderberg Lundenburg 130 years ago. At Bohumin the Kilometer Stone actually displays the Distance to Wien Hbf Basically a legacy of the old Austria-Hungary rail network Austrian side. Hungarian Side of Austria Hungary railways Km 0 Budapest Keleti. CD 362 25kv 3kv DC version of DB BR180
Jeez I used that train a few years ago. But then it went via Dresden Prague Brno Breclav Bratislava Budapest . Sadly they now run it via Poland totally skipping Dresden Prague. The 477 Metropol EN now starts in Prague. Guess it had something to do with Deutsche Bahn again 😔
I wonder why they deviated the route?
... because it is cheaper to route the Berlin - Vienna/Budapest train through Poland (Wroclaw) than through Germany (Dresden)
That is more scenic than the route Through Poland because Dresden Hbf is starting point of the Elbtalbahn Dresden Decin Usti Prague Line
AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. Big thank you
Sadly EN 40457 no longer goes trough Polland..
It now goes via Dresden and Praha.
but the routing via prague and dresden is the classic route for this train - it will generate more passengers than the route via wroclaw
2:57 the full green ICE train, nice. There is only one.
Wow, thank you for the video. To be honest I have never slept in a sleeping car like that. It would be more interesting, if a steam engine would pull the wagons...but times have changed.
Taking this train is a wonderful oportunity to compare services. Easiest way to buy a ticket was at MAV. On board, things changes. I took this train these days from Berlin to Budapest and back and booked a single compartment sleepign car both ways. When I thought, the waggon was shabby on my outbound trip, it was even worse on the return trip.
Outbound at least one toilet (of two) functioned well, inbound both of them weren´t. Disgusting!
My cabin inbound was even in a messier state than outbound. As you can see in this video, cars from other companies are added. That is why I visited the ÖBB couchette waggon, which is somehow a lower class than a sleeping car, yet was in an excellent shape, not to mention that even there the WC has a shower (whereas at MAV you could not even wash hands in any toilet), and the ÖBB staff was in service modus, whereas the MAV staff already changed into private modus when passing the polish/german border.
The rate for those trips would be the same, the standards are very very different, that is why am reallly annoyed with MAV.
Also keep in mind the differing standards of the networks. In Germany you wont hear or feel much. In Poland it is not a subject, too. Things changes in Slovakia and are continued in Hungaria. The ride in the last mentiond countries is bumpy and can get on your nerves,
I really love your videos! They’re better than anything on TV.👍
The MÁV sleeper trains my not be the most luxurious ones, but they can get your from Stuttgart to Budapest for only 50€ while you sleep in a 6 berth couchette.
It's pretty much hop on, have a drink and snack while chatting, sleep, wake up have coffee, get out. More convenient then flying if you just want to get from A to B without much fuss while lying down. (I also found the ÖBB couchette do be less comfy, their berths were pretty hard, tho that might change with the new cars they promised)
Superbly shot and we'll documented aswell.
What a lot of faffing around. You really didn't take advantage of the sleeping aspect of the trip. You must have been knackered when you arrived at your destination.
we had a nice hotel in budapest; moreover, the bed in the sleeping car was really uncomfortable
@@doc7austin Glad to hear that.
There was an older way for the train to reach Berlin it's via the KkStb Königreich Sachsen Elbtalbahn Dresden Hauptbahnhof Bodenbach Hbf. However there is a problem with it is that a Budapest Prague passenger must be awake before Prague fall asleep on the train you would end up waking inside Dresden Hbf
Wonderful urban night video shots leaving Berlin Hauptbanhof.
Stunning video! Very interesting...did not know about this multi-changing-puzzle-train. Will be on the same trip form Berlin to Budapest in two month and wondered, why it takes so long. Now I know and am prepared. Thanks mate, for posting it!
I remember doing the Metropol ride in a seating car in 2015. Back then they used an open Bpmz from MAV with all lights turned on. As a bonus there was passport control at every single border due to the syrian refugee crisis, and at least three fights broke out during that night. Between Breclav and Prague the car was also used by local thugs who were trying to steal from sleeping passengers. I would not call it a pleasant experience...
I took the Chopin portion last week and surprisingly these complicated trains ran on time compared to my experience with Adria Intercity and two Nightjets are all delayed by 2-4 hours
19:51 The "Messerschmitt"
Good documentation.....and much thanks that you stay awake for us to filming all of this. 😀
Very nice, thank you! Your knowledge of all things train is simply astonishing! And you're right, this was mind boggling complicated lol.
never seen a train with such these changes of composition! guess that loco hauled trains have still something better than fixed multiple units :)
17:09 How could you have switched from MAV to PKP car, since the MAV one was closed?
I love electric locomotive!
I am trying to book a train which goes from wroclaw to bratislava in august but no matter what site I look on you dont seem to be able to book it
Hi Traveller, youre cutest is youre night light, soooo sweet what ist the name of youre nighlight? greetings vom saxonia
Is there restaurant or bar car? That is what really makes a train. A sociable communal space
nothing - no dining car on this train
You've watched too many old movies about trains.
Fantastic video! 😀👋
What about the Railjets Zurich - Budapest? Switzerland , Liechtenstein , Austria , Germany and Hungary :)
if you count the border crossings, it is Switzerland , Liechtenstein , Austria , Germany, Austria one more time and finally Hungary. Railjet and Nightjet as well.
Great stuff, like always. But also like always it´s over too quick. 😭 😋
That was a very interesting trip /video. Thank you for sharing it with us...
Hi, great video! Can I ask which program do you use to create the maps? I would like to make my own, but can’t find any software to do it :( Appreciate the response!
umap.openstreetmap.fr plus google maps
You choose DB Navigator and enter departure Berlin Arrival Budapest Then you look for the local connection with zero changes. then you click the menu item "complete history" "kompletter Verlauf".The map will appear. You can then copy it to your computer or mobile possibly with screenshot
I love these video’s and all the information you give us in the video !
Great Intro ✅
In America in the Northeast the platforms are on the same level as the floor of the trains and the couplers are more bigger and very different fro the European ones.
Noone asked
Which European operator (or train)make the best/comfortable night train service in your opinion? OBB with their Nightjet?
nope; Moscow Railway
As usual, excellent trip report. Bravo.
27:44 The loc looks disturbing :S
it looks like a winter time train layout outside!
Maybe because it was filmed in December...
I love Metropol EN
excellent job!
all aboard the Ghost Train 🚆 😀
Thank you for great video
The gloomy commentary gave it all a unique ominous atmosphere , I was waiting anxiously for bad things to happen, thriller , excellent 👍
Again an -as usual- extremely good trainvideo from the king of youtube trainvideos👋👋
And what a wonderful trip😊😊
in 2:28 there is 18:29 and in the blue thing is 18:43
At 18:43 will the train leave.
@@UsagiMiyamotoYojimbo oh sorry but thank
Hello from Belarus) Is there a shower in this Hungarian sleeping car (WLABmz)?
You were entitled to use the business lounge at Keleti, after your arrival, you know that?
Did that Skoda locomotive hit an animal, since there is a mysterious red liquid on ot, which you can spot in Keleti
Super Film 👍🇵🇱
Bitte sie darum mehr solche Filme zu machen 👍
Amazing 👏
Hungary:D
27:42 Az vér a mozdony elején ?
Igen, valószínüleg elütött egy kisebb állatot útközben.
Ki tudja..minden lehetséges...
Én is úgy gondolom.
some animal
I rode the whole old from Berlin Charlottenburg to Budapest Nyugati
and now the metropol euronight runs via prague and not wroclaw anymore
Tjakepzzz... Nice...
Thank you for the video! Very informative
Muy interesante pero si no puedes dormir muy dura la noche.
Very fantastic video
I have never liked the conditions in the MAV sleeper and couchette cars and the staff are uncooperative and sometimes rude. The beds are small and very stiff, and awkwardly positioned.
I don't have the same feeling as you do, for me the pillow is really comfy, bedsheet and mattress average. I tried the ÖBB Deluxe suite and I found it almost even (ÖBB is a bit better)
The only thing I liked more on ÖBB was the cleanliness of the toilets but it was a solo one so I don't know how their common ones are.
As for the staff, I never got bad experience with the MAV ones, but as always it can differ from one trip to another.
Very nice video, I like it 👍
Thank Very much for the video are you from Budapest
no, i am in poland
Very good video
A great video! But you did´nt sleep a single minute the whole nigh, or did you? You must have been absolutely exhausted on arrival in Budapest! Well done, doc7 ... !
It's still a long way for MAV to catch up with Western European trains in terms of travel quality.
I prefer flying from Berlin to Budapest and not to take trains. 13 hours travelling time is a joke.
Thanks Doc for the great video. Come to North America and do some of our trains like the Coast Starlight and Sunset limited please but as long as you do videos this good I'll watch whatever you shoot.
Sadly the Przemyśl group on this one is no more. Polish cars now go only to Wrocław and Bohumin (no sleeper car anymore).
This is so confusing!
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@@Martin-sr6sqThe route!
2020 the Hungarian the police not very nice was with people 2020 and I visit Bulgaria and Bucharest everything good 🤝🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Helicopter helicopter (first
I wonder why not all the cars went to Ukraine there? It's strange, because the unfortunate Ukrainian refugees from western Ukraine occupied by orcs were supposed to occupy all the cars.
what?
it was recorded in Decembre 2021, before that tragic event.
Also Ukraine has different gauge of rail
What a crappy small compartment.
yes; these görlitzer cars are anything than nice
@@doc7austin gorlitz cars????))