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It works iraeld out it gets damaged and messed up in the comics.

I dont think they ever intended the helmets to change , the fully black mouth is just them cheaping out when making em , prob quickly repainting them

Plenty of people keep praising the rogue one suit as the best Vader suit and claim ROTS ruined it, but I think these people are blind. The only thing holding the ROTS suit back is how lean it is. Everything else about it rocks.

This tickles my tism, thank you.

Great video! Perhaps I shouldn't be saying this, but it's so weird this video has so few views.

A New Hope helmets were industrial design perfection. All the changes made after that took away from the original design. These changes were made because it was faster and cheaper than doing a good job, and at the time , no one thought these changes were important. Take the new hope helmets and perfect the symmetry and leave everything else as it was in the first film.

Me who is a total Darth Vader fan loves the asymmetrical in a new hope but I also love the symmetrical miss what they did in revenge of the Sith and why it makes it from a technological standpoint because of they're in a time period like say 4000. which would make them way advance enough to have technological advances for the helmet and arms and legs. For such an injury on Mustafar

19 years passes between Revenge of The Sith and A New Hope. It makes sense that his suit would change over time. I mean he wears it every single day and parts of it are robotic. Parts need to be replaced and the whole suit needs to be maintained. It just makes sense.

What Ainsworth is selling is not close to authentic in any way. It’s a pretty bad knock-off in both the helmet and the suit itself. I know because i purchased one and it was bad. Another company based in the UK RS Propmasters do have an exact replica.

You said it would make sense if the Vader helmet would be perfect and symmetrical like in ROTS with the advanced technology etc of the star wars world, have you seen the state of the battle worn ships and and troops armour etc in the star wars franchise lol, usually look like they've been to hell and back and that is what makes star wars what it is, Vader never looked meaner than in ANH the mask also had wider more pronounced cheeks lost on the later helmets that followed because they used new moulds when the original disappeared

This isn't a thing. The original helmet was destroyed in "Kenobi."

ANH had the best stormtrooper design in the OT

I'm very positive that we are supposed to imagine the ST helmets in Solo, Rogue One, ANH, ESB, ROTJ, and Mandalorian are ALL exactly the same model - and any detail variations are just chalked up to wear, lighting, etc. In no way do I believe for one second that these are meant to be different stages or versions, as for example, between the Clone Trooper armor in ep 2 vs ep 3.

Is that a black series helmet you're holding? It actually looks pretty accurate, unlike their Vader helmet which looks way off!

As a Star Wars fan and a former mega Star Wars fan, I think ROTS helmet fixed his helmet. I like how they didn't use an asymmetrical helmet for the two Jedi games unlike Battlefront. But at least his Battlefront helmet was all black and his dome was prolly symmetrical.

Vader's helmet in OWK wasn't perfectly symmetrical, it was somewhat symmetrical. But they shoulda used the ROTS helmet for OWK, or at least made Vader's helmet completely black but keep his triangular breathing vents silver or gray and his lenses red.

They shoulda made Vader's helmet symmetrical for Rogue One while keeping the incomplete black paint and gun metal gray mixed on the helmet.

I don’t think it was an improvement per se, but I do believe it with the right choice as Hayden‘s head was smaller than Dave Prowse’s as was his physique. They had to make a smaller more slim down version so it looked normal.

What is with all this f****** nitpicking just watch the movie and enjoy it good grief !

so trivial

This is a confused version of events

The Revenge of the Sith version of Vader's suit is definitely my favorite. The different looking helmets, chest panels etc. can be explained away as parts being replaced as they break down or are damaged in combat.

The original 77 helmet with its dull black dome deeper peak over the eyes and red eye lenses was the best looking one IMHO, it has more character

i always loved how the ROTS helmet it looks great and i assume thats how palpatine would make it and is my fav design i would like to know what your thoughts on the fortnite design is for Vader and his helmet

The kenobi helmet has red lenses. I hope you made an updated version of this. You should also explain why they went with the symmetrical version. Lucas had always intended for it to be symmetrical. The molding process is why it's warped.

Liz Moore and Brian Muir designed the original Stormtrooper helmet. And Moore was the artist that sculpted it and the C3P0 helmet. Don’t believe me? Google “Liz Moore” and see for yourself. Ainsworth’s involvement was he had a vacuum form machine and could mass produce helmets for the film. But he was never involved in the creative process. Ainsworth is a fraud.

I disagree. It's what gives them their diversity. The screws were used more on the anh and esb molds and not on the rotj. The rotj ears are glued in place and not screwed in. Lucas wanted to do away with the screws as there were no screws in a space helmet as apparently there were no underwear either. Lol Anyway the rotj is the definitive variant to the ANH, ESB TK stunt hero or otherwise. It is the true last mold used so essentially marking the rotj an icon alongside its counterparts. In my opinion art can never ruin anything. It only distinguishes it.

....humph, when Vader gets a new helmet, its clean, new and symmetrical; over time it becomes used and "wonky"....no further explanation needed; it happens "off screen". PEACE and God bless.

They could explain the asymmetry as between ROS and aNH as battle damage. Some of the other details are just that as I have more than one hat.

I thought Revenge of the Sith had red eyes? There's that shot of the mask coming down and the vision is red. It's been awhile since I've seen it, so I don't know what colour the actual eyes are, but I remember that shot.

In-story could mirror real-life. In a huge galaxy with many different contractors and manufacturers, the Empire would probably have many different bidding contracts on the cheap. As long as the helmets were within spec, they were accepted.

I don’t care!

I always assumed they purposefully took inspiration from a Nazi helmet to kind of use that as a metaphor for the empire.

Why would anybody have a problem with minor changes to Vader's helmet? He was in that suit for 20 or so years. Who's to say he didn't tinker with it in his spare time? Maybe (as is said here) he had multiple helmets. Maybe the ANH helmet was his "work helmet" and the other(s) were his "formal dress helmets". I don't see the problem.

What about Dark Helmet!😂

I prefer the red lenses over the black ones. I think it gives him much more character and makes him look much more intimidating.

ESB helmet and suit is the best version. also a lot of people dont know is that the helmet was painted in two tone (black and grey) to add dimension on film

I didn't notice anything until I saw this video. I never pay that much attention to movies like this. I just watch them and enjoy the story. I'm not too much into technical details.

The helmets "vanished" Dr. Evil voice- Riiiiight...

As long as vader does what he does best, I really don’t care about the small differences

The reason GL changed it for ROTS was that he didn't want to pay royalties to the original sculpt. The British designer of the original mould helds the rights for the image at the time

As a kid I didn’t notice, as I didn’t care. As an adult I still don’t care. But interesting now that I do know.

The best suit in my opinion for him was in Return of the Jedi

I like when Vader’s helmet is asymmetrical. It matches his unbalanced mental state.

At 1.50 there seems to be another design, only just in shot to the right .?

I like the revenge of the sith one best except I do prefer the red lenses. They look evil lol

OK but can we talk about how Vader's helmet is a literal dickhead

The helmet was new in rots and even the millennium falcon was new at some point and wasn't all banged up, even if you went with the multiple helmets theory rots is just his first one and the Kenobi series could either be the same one or his second one which is why it's different in rogue one and anew hope! he's gonna need to replace parts from time to time in universe anyway... you don't drive a car for 20 years without replacing something on it! that makes the most sense to me!

Here's a few things to add to your review that may help add some details. David Prowse did a considerable amount of saber work during ANH, for the rest of the OT however, all credit goes to Olympic fencer Bob Anderson of which you will find video footage of Anderson training an out of breath Mark Hamill on YT. Mark gave his best during the saber fights and it clearly shows how much effort he put into learning the moves. The ANH Vader helmet was originally designed as an all-black affair however, grey highlighting was added when they realized just how badly it looked on-film (the all black looked washed out). For ROTS they were able to get away with an all black helmet although they did use different shades/finishes here and there so it would highlight in certain angles. TESB / ROTJ helmet was painted in Black and Gun Metal Grey, the strip running over the dome was wider and the point on the front of the dome rounded (almost straightened) and no longer pointed. ROTJ helmet was molded more symmetrical and the bottom "lip" on the TESB mask was thinner over the thicker ROTJ version. The picture in your video of the helmet displaying the missing "little knobs" you refer to are "tusks" of which were merely broken off from wear 'n tear over the years. The "tusks" were removed only to prevent injury to Mark Hamill when dueling in close proximity. There were different versions of "stunt" and "hero" helmets used throughout, the stunt helmets had transparent cheeks and the chin grill was removed for improved field of vision. The "stunt" helmet was a highly modified version of the "hero" helmet used during standard shooting, and was specially created so that Olympic fencing champion Bob Anderson had a much clearer vision when he was performing the fight sequences with Mark Hamill. The helmet had inner padding for further comfort. Hope that helps.

the prequels ruined many things in my opinion, but vaders helmet would just be nitpicking