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Thank you for such kind words on this mod! I always found it unfortunate that MS rom hack has never been blessed with a conscious rom hacker who would use one's prowess and hard-earned knowledge in the correct way to achieve something meaningful rather than ending up butchering the original like a happy 8 year old with his/her sandbox tools. Nevertheless, some MS rom hackers have been damn impressive in terms of sheer modding skills, not to mention I still got much to learn and document on my part so I may as well keep a clean tongue for now haha.

@@soldierrebel6603 As it is an arcade rom, it is much more complicated to make major modifications to it. Maybe with the source code it is possible. That you were able to do this rom hack is still impressive.

It's a rom hack I made by using the original Metal Slug 3 as a base so everything is from Metal Slug 3. As for allied soldiers, they are slightly recoded friendly rebels from the final mission that will act a bit smarter with stronger damage outputs than friendly rebel's.

Of course, that should be a piece of cake to fix.

Thank you, I'm really happy to hear that this mode feels as close as what official SNK would do with home console mini-games haha.

Hmm, I haven't really tested it myself but it shouldn't work in netplay, considering the mode can only be accessed thru debug menu and I honestly don't think it's possible for 2 users to enter the survival mode at the same time to be synchronized 🤔 or I dunno, you could try it yourself and I'd surely appreciate it if you let me know how it went.

@@soldierrebel6603 I think we might try parsec or something similar.also is it me or the bgm is off throughout the mode?

Oh I used to run into the very same issue before with Kawaks too. Apparently it has something to do with converting from arcade mode to console mode somehow messing up Kawaks' key mapping. There are 2 methods to fix it; one is to redefine key configs at the in-game option of console mode main menu. The other is simply resetting the game by selecting 'Exit' at the console mode main menu, tho it's been awhile for me that I can't assure if that's how I fixed the key mapping issue long ago. Still, try these methods and lemme know if you got it fixed.

@@soldierrebel6603 I had tried reconfiguring, didn't work but i will try again. Gonna try the exit option too from the console.

@@soldierrebel6603 Also i closed the Kawaks to do some stuff, wow i had to do all the steps with Cheat Engine all over huh. Welp lmao

@@soldierrebel6603 Ahh finally it works. What i had to do was pick Option in the menu BEFORE character select screen stuff after initially pressing player 1 button, then change the 1p config and setting them all from ALL A to Gun/Vulcan A Jump B Grenade Cannon C and Metal Slug ATK to Whatever. So not in the Console debug menu where the language is japanese and where you choose to play Survival mode itself, but before that. Exiting does not work as far as i tested, so you might wanna add this to the GDrive to inform ppl.

Ugh, great. I should've known that the key mapping issue with console mode would turn out troublesome with others too. Anyway, cheers for letting me know how to fix it 👌

You'll need Kawaks 1.65 for this. Instruction Manual.pdf I left on my google drive folder should fill you up.

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Yes, provided that there're some _spare spaces_ inside of either Bradley or Metal Claw's coding I can afford to squeeze new stuffs in or extend the original, it should be a breeze to do.

Just to be clear, it's a rom hack for Kawaks I made with Cheat Engine.

Thanks, glad that you enjoyed the video too! That's a neat idea for the minigun rebel indeed and is actually something I was planning to try implementing in the future as well. If I were you, I'd probably go in RNG-based way with the suggested ground-hit atk working as more of an alternative atk pattern than replacing the original projectile atk as a whole. However, it ain't always a good idea to let RNG affect the difficulty too much so perhaps limiting the ground-hit atk only to a special variant of minigun rebel whose appearance(such as his uniform color) is different enough for players to distinguish him from his normal counterpart might work the best. As for the issue of players at the different platform level or airborne status, I think we can assign _valid acquisition range_ to the ground-hit atk and use it as a prerequisite for the soldier to execute the atk, letting him decide whether to do it or not himself. In any case, thanks for the suggestion!

Oh I assume you're _@KaidenKonsensus_ from X? Good to see you here!

@@soldierrebel6603 Yes, its me. Hi!

Unfortunately, this revamp is only planned to tweak the section of _the subway & its entrance_ stages so overhauling the final boss ain't gonna happen this time around. tho I'd surely love to try my hand at it one day haha. Ah, sounds like a good idea to provide some environmental covers for players to work around against enemy projectile barrages more confidently, rather than having to reduce the number of on-screen enemies AFAP. I think _indestructible/non-path-blocking but can still be jumped onto_ containers(used at the stranded cargo ship stage in MS3 mission 1) could do the job as 'platform', however, placing them in an artificial pattern like you suggested might make the layout look a bit blatant and awkward imo. I'll first have to see how much more reasonable the difficulty becomes from simply slowing down the speed of enemy projectiles but will certainly keep in mind to put some containers players can take advantage of during Black Hound battle. Anyway, thanks for the feedback!

@soldierrebel6603 I don't quite understand what awkwardness or blatantness is there in patterned platforms but all i know is that gameplay triumphs immersion if that's what you mean and i specifically call for pattern to have consistency in player behaviour rather than having them scramble for higher ledges/pitfalls. But if you can make those environmental covers work and for them to not be useless in the sense that projectile hits you just as easily or overpowered that they don't hit you at all, then you can totally go for it. Also didn't get to say these cause i was too fixated on formulating my feedback but i LOVE the Black Hound speeding off screen as both an attack and a phase indicator, looks SO slick. And really love the way the Ptolemaic Truck works too. Different compared to the Rebels', and the perspective trick that works when hiding an alive soldier even after destroyed. :Sadge: that you ain't touching anything else but pleasantly surprised that you are working things for this, was honestly expecting this to be just a relic from the past lol.

Yep, not only in gameplay immersion wise like you said, but I tend to value the naturalness of the obj layout especially with environmental decorations. Still, you got a point with prioritizing consistency thru a set pattern so I'll see if I can come up with a compromise plan.👌 As for environmental covers, I'm thinking of how those elevating platforms on flatbed train carts in MS1 Hairbuster Riberts battle worked, providing cover from Riberts' scattered bomb attack and platform to jump onto to avoid missiles in horizontal movement. Provided that indestructible containers will perform the same role here, players should be able to dodge high-angle attacks such as grenades and mortar rounds by staying under containers, and point-blank attacks such as firearm projectiles and Hover Unit rockets by standing above containers. ...tho, perhaps containers neutralizing high-angle projectiles might indeed be too OP I suppose? Good to hear that you found some of ideas showcased in the video interesting! It always is a thrilling experience for me as well to try something new the official series hadn't, and to see my long-sought imaginations finally coming to life by my own hand haha.

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Yes, the animation is believed to be used by rescued regular soldiers in MS1 prototype. MS3 and any other series except MS5 always had the unused animation sprite tiles included as dummy data so all I had to do was making a good use of it here in MS3, by combining the original _Regular soldier throwing stick grenade while moving_ sprite tiles with _Rebel soldier throwing pineapple grenade while standing_ sprite tiles to come up with brand-new attack animation for rebel soldier. I won't really go any deeper about explaining the whole process of _combining 2 different animation sprite tiles_ for how tedious and painful it was but yeah, it's something you can pull off even with simple rom hacking. Vine jumping soldiers already exist and are used in MS3, at the junk boat slug route in mission 1.

@@soldierrebel6603 yeah i can see how tedious is that, considering the fact you can't add new sprites (I think you can but is a large process). Also, by curiosity, is Metal Slug Coded in C+ or Any other program type?

Yeah, gotta need some 3rd party Neogeo hack tool such as NGFX to add completely new sprite tiles to the rom, which I'm yet to try out myself but plans to in the future. I dunno, haven't really tried to identify which programming language MS series rom was using as I've been hacking the rom with Cheat Engine by just straight up understanding machine languages and reverse-engineering' em w/o having to assembly/disassembly. The pattern of machine languages I read out of MS rom seemed somewhat similar to C in general but knowing the series was first developed under Neogeo MVS system, it should mostly be 68k Assembly afaik, maybe accompanied by some C too.