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Alex Fierro threw the tape recorder out the window :trolle:

One criticism, turn up your mic or turn down the background music. It's hard to understand you.

For some reason there've been a ton of rework proposition videos in the community the last to months and this is the first one i've seen that feels like a genuinely large amount of thought went into the rebalance, it feels polished and professional and I hope we see something like this actually added some day! I really appreciate your focus on the maintaining of a playstyle within the community. I'm not a spy main, and I hate playing against kunai spies, but I'm not okay with nerfing someone's fun out of the game((unless it's vax medic)), so I think it's super respectable how you focused on allowing kunai spies to still play similarly to how they did before!

Love the rework! Tho its a PASSIVE 15 hp,so it should have some kind of backpack or something like that to indicate players the spy will be a little more tankier

I honestly really like these changes and would definitely use it alot more, also the no disguising downside is a really good idea making it almost an alternative version of the YER

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Useless kunai fact: it actually doesnt give you a plaim 210 overheal but overheal 3x your max health, I once found a glitch on a community server and I was a 150 hp kinai spy wirh a max overheal of 450. That was so much fun

the Kunai is now a gunspy knife >:3

nice job

That's pretty good

I didnt really notice an audio problem in the original.

Hey so heres mine idea for Dead Ringer: you still have the speed boost cloak from a feign, but decloaking from it still remove all the buffs (dmg res and speed boost), its better than being slowed down and having no cloak left. also, I think the -40% cloak from ammo packs and dispensers should only apply to the feign death cooldown of 30 seconds (maybe increase it to 50%), and probably make it also get no cloak at all from packs and dispensers whem you cloaked from feign Btw I think think that the default key for arming the dead ringer should be Special Attack (default key: M3), same as medic shields in mvm.

Hello, this might be just me buy I have bad hearing. If you made your voiceover about 10% louder it would pop a bit more from the background music. Otherwise excellent video.

Something I don't think you realize that you also do with the kunai is now you made it a good gun spy weapon I'm assuming butter knives also give you health but you don't get the over heal it has to be a backstab to get the over heal it is the gun spy weapon so this now supports to play styles the chain stabs or the guy that says f*** it and use his gun

I don’t even play spy I just like watching stuff

Now the Kunai would only need a new description cuz it says "Starts with low health, Stab someone with this knife, steal all of their health"

Idk.. i already dont yse the kuni cuz i dont like its playstyle, but slower cloack *and especially the no disguise* would make me hate it even more

I swear... I already thought of "no Disguis" myself... But it is actually such a REALY NEEDED ABILITY for the Spy... So i am not so sure of it... NEEDS to be tested MATHEMATICALLY.

I think something must be added to deal with sentries. Maybe they can take a few extra seconds to target you when decloaking ?

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one of my favorite things in tf2 the red tape recorder

3:07 Fair enough. But if that's indeed the design goal (and not just your opinion), I'd remove the kunai from the game altogether. IMO, you're not supposed to be stabbed by the sneaky class *while you're looking at him and he's not disguised*. Meleed, like a sniper, is ofc fine. Trickstabbing kunai spies show off their platforming skills (think Super Meat Boy or Celeste) and are fine in MvM. But they wreak havoc in casual (topscoring, shutting down the other team and thus killing servers), against fellow human players who want to have a good time. If the kunai is kept, just disallow the DR loadout combo, since I don't think it's possible to balance it. Once the combo is out of the equation, balancing each (=separately) becomes much easier.

WARNING OPINION AHEAD: Honestly, I think the biggest problem with the Kunai when in casual people just trickstab everyone while tanking a lot of damage. There is nothing about spys design that communicates that he should be able to tank 600hp in a fight. It's insulting to see. Big earner and YER (debatable) helping with trickstabs are fine, because as long as you can track the spy, you can kill him. I do not agree with the sentiment that this playstyle being viable is healthy for the game. Combined with the poor hitreg and lag, it just feels unfair and is unfun to play against IMO. One way I would buff the trickstabbing playstyle is I would buff the Big Earner to have a faster attackspeed - helping both trickstabs and chainstabs. I do like the idea of there being cooldown for the healing for Kunai. There should still be some other persistent downside tho, but idk what it should be.