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325 for torterra. Grass starters didn't do well in this ranking but grass ground is a pretty solid typing and a pretty solid placement for torterra.

Mega pert was 50th and regular pert was 174

Ya I know I'm a dingus. I completely forgot about that when editing.

Mega Sceptile finished 144 and regular finished 634. Mono-grass tends to not do well in these rankings.

To be fair, for the easiest game imaginable, you could set their levels to anything.

I don't agree that the games have gotten easier and I think the data backs that up. Also if I kept the levels the same as in the games then the champions would always be the best because they have the highest levels and I don't really see a point in that.

That's _also_ not the title.

I did rank every gym leader if you go back in my video history I separated them by generation. My methodology on how I create these lists is in the description of most of my videos and if you have any questions about it you can ask. I feel like it would be too boring to go over how I do it every video especially since it's an 11 part series.

You never really had to grind much, just don’t go out of the way to avoid trainers and you can end up beating them pretty easily. You can usually get away with constantly being a few levels under levelled as well. It’s especially relevant in the gen 2 remakes. You can get away with being ridiculously underlevelled for the elite four, and their pokemon are just so weak that it doesn’t matter.

Because he simulated battles between all of the gym leaders and this is the results

Bug resists fighting, so he beats Brawly specifically.

He also barely touched Gen 9, only mentioning Katie, and didn't touch Gen 7 or Gen 8

@@afro025 You also have to take into account the resources available to the players. Gen 9, being open world, opens so many options to catch and train pokemon up to higher levels.

This video also does not touch Pokémon X and Y at all :^)

@@Garde_Mystik Again, you gotta also look at what the player gets. The insane exp share for one.

​@@classonbread5757 I could make the same kinds of arguments for Gen 4 and Gen 5 for why they're not even difficult, for example; You also gotta take into account absolutely *NONE* of the Gen 5 gym leaders use more than 3 Pokemon, which makes them laughably easy just like the Gen 6 gyms.

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The monthly OM in showdown is actually just reverting the physical special split. It's called type split. If u don't watch him PokeaimMD just did a video showcasing it.

Thanks, literally forgot I said that part when I was editing that would have been a good idea.

Ya been really enjoying the playoffs this year.

I'm mainly looking at it from a type effectiveness standpoint not really looking at coverage

This isn’t necessarily true because you’re not considering the relative optimization that would occur. To see this, import this set into the damage calc: Gengar @ Leftovers Level: 100 Hasty Nature Ability: Levitate EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe - Sludge Bomb - Ice Punch - Fire Punch - Shadow Ball Then go and change Gengar’s base Atk stat to 130 and it’s base SpA to 65 (switch them), and make sure to max IVs on both. The reason this is representative is bc we’re directly comparing 2 of its (originally) stat-aligned coverage moves to 2 of its (originally) stat-misaligned STAB moves in this set. Since the moves are all ones whose category switched in later gens (unlike t bolt for example), we can switch the base stats to simulate the predicted change in outcomes based on a (future Gen) switch in stat-alignment and misalignment of these moves relative to each other when used on Gengar in gen 3. You can also do this with moves like hyper beam and thunder punch, but keep in mind that t bolt exists either way (and it won’t lose effectiveness with stat optimizations). Also, sometimes checking hidden power is useful since it’s reasonable to suppose that in a world where gen3 OU had the physical-special split that stuff like hp ice might get run on it. All things being considered, shadow ball becomes a much stronger threat. And at first, it’s not enough vs a number of the mons you mentioned… but now change the nature to adamant or even lonely (which are just ways to represent subsequent nature reinvestment that might be reasonably expected for some sets). This skews a couple matchups in favor of physical-special split gengar. Next, check some matchups it might gain favorability in. I’m not that experienced at gen3 OU tbh, so I might be way off here, but mons like starmie, celebi, and milotic come to mind here. I didn’t check if gengar gets ohko’d by their most common sets (which iirc might be the case for ones running psychic) so these might not change but you get the idea. We’re not done yet. Obviously, we have to compare to normal gengar (with stats as they actually are) and compare the best move’s damage range from the normal set vs the custom set in each matchup (opening two damage calculator tabs side by side is most efficient). You could spend a long time writing spreadsheet tables to figure out if the math agrees with your statement. I’m not really saying you’re wrong though, just that you *could* be wrong, and this is way to approximate “mathing it out” if you want to find out for yourself. I suspect that its good coverage moves do make an important difference, which means you’ve got a point. However, I also suspect that difference is less impactful than you might be thinking.

The point is that some of its moves get worse, but others get better, and some of its coverage remains unchanged (tbolt, psychic, hp ice, explosion, all status moves), and other than the reinvestment, still are very effective. It might make gengar more rounded actually, but that doesn’t necessarily make it worse.

@@holda2375 It's a really interesting question. With the prevalence of ttar, almost zero psychic types (metagross, jirachi, medicham all are neutral damage), and lack of many good targets (minus starmie and celebi you mentioned) most Gengar probably wouldn't run Shadow Ball in ADV OU if it were on the special side. If we give Gen3 Gengar special shadow ball (change it's type to a neutral type like electric and change shadow balls type to electric) we get things like this: 252 SpA Gengar Shadow Ball vs. 128 HP / 0 SpD Metagross: 143-169 (42.9 - 50.7%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO where a super effective coverage move like fire punch is a guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Gengar Fire Punch vs. 128 HP / 0 SpD Metagross: 180-212 (54 - 63.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO I can't speak for later generations but Gengar would lose out for sure in Gen3 ou if there was the physical special split. Losing Fire and Ice punch hitting off the 130 special attack is huge. Both punch moves have very relevant 4x super effective targets (Forretress, Salamence, Flygon) as well as a ridiculous amount of 2x SE targets Anyways all this to say losing the special punches greatly outweighs getting special shadow ball. At the end of the day we are much better off clicking the SE coverage move.

I might be an idiot thank you.

Gliscor was 80th and Golett was 771st.

Thanks

(I don't have much to say but wanted to boost the algorithm or whatever)

I just use python. We know the formula to calculate damage and what every mons stats are so all you have to do is plug in the teams and do a series of additions and subtractions.

Chien-Pao licking it's lips on the sidelines

Pretty sure its happening now

Appreciate the support

Mienfoo is the LC goat that's why I put it on the list.

Thanks for watching. It's always good when the data confirms your preconceived notions but it is also good when it shows you stuff you wouldn't have necessarily thought of at the start.

Ya I am surprised he doesn't get more love as one of the top trainers.

@@stoobydoobins I think the reason he doesn't is the more recent story approach to champions is narratively proclaiming them the greatest (sometimes they themselves say so.) which results in a bit of annoyance from most people. Good Champion, less than stellar way to present that champion that keeps him in peoples minds compared to say, Cynthia.

I think I just got lucky vs Leon. I don't remember the details but I remember being a little disappointed. I think I just happened to have an answer to everything he had.

thanks

Lokix was 435th and Sandy Shocks was 57th. What makes lokix good is tinted lens plus first impression which doesn't show up in this simulation. Another good example from this gen is skelederge in ubers: normally a UU mon that can be used in ubers because of it's typing and unaware.

@@stoobydoobins DAAAANG! Way higher than I expected a Pokemon with a 450 BST to be. But yeah. Tinted Lens + Priority STAB + Base 102 Attack = Pain.

I know they wouldn't do it but I wish gamefreak went crazy with the difficulty for one game. I'm talking like ROM hack level difficulty and if doing stuff like this would get there I would love that.