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The manager, who obviously didn’t know anything about basketball, such as the idea of a breakaway rim or what a layup is, told me I wasn’t allowed to dunk. So I had to do quick drops like they would do when dunking in pregame was outlawed

It’s ideal for explosive training. If you do track or vertical jump training it’s more advantageous to do half squats and go high weight low rep. I’m not trying to pass these off as full squats lol

6 points in North Korea 😂😂

I just made a video on self alley oops where I sorta breezed over the technique part cuz I assumed most ppl already knew so that’s the closest I have up rn. But I can also make a video like that

@@ben_wolfe8 yeah i would definitely give it a watch if you made a form video

Then link the study. According to the lore that caused this bullshit claim (the book written by his trainer) Jordan had a 39 inch vertical in college, a 43 after 3 years in the league and a 48 in 1990-91. So even the original source contradicts that. It’s not Jordan hate btw, it’s truth preservation. You dick ride Jordan too much to understand that Idgaf who your goat is I just wanna disprove false claims bc they’re false.

“So are there any official records of Michael Jordan's vertical jump height? It turns out that the only official records of Michael Jordan’s vertical jump were the measurements taken during his college years at North Carolina. In these tests he reached a max running jump of 45.5 inches and achieved 42″ vertical jump height from a standard Sargent Test.” Source: Vertical Jump World “We could not find any records of Michael Jordan’s measurements. We can however go back to his University of North Carolina vertical jump record. You can also learn a few things. Michael Jordan reached a maximum height jump of 45.5 inches. His vertical jump record was 42 inches in the Sargent standard test. Michael Jordan’s vertical leaping ability has been perfected over a period of training.” Source Scott Fujita Since I’m sure you’ll call BS on these guys, you can call UNC and order a hard copy of the study. It’s from 1983 and doesn’t seem to be available online.

@@Viper_75th_RR I've heard people say a lot that Michael Jordan had a 48" vertical, but I've never seen any actual credible source to confirm it. I've also read that his vertical was measured at 43.5", the same as Vince Carter and Nate Robinson, which sounds much more realistic but I don't have an actual source for either (it was just in a list that seemed very convincing). So let's do this. I read once that Michael Jordan in practice was able to get his entire hand over the square on top of the backboard. Obviously it's an anecdote, but we actually have more than enough information to know how high Jordan would need to jump to do that. The following is all available through Google searching. Michael Jordan's height without shoes - 6'4.75" - 6'5". Michael Jordan's wingspan - 6'11.5". According to Pre-Draft Camp numbers, pretty much every guy who is 6'4.75" to 6'5" with a 6'11" to 7-foot wingspan has a standing reach of 8'7" to 8'9". So we'll say that Jordan's standing reach was 8'8". Michael Jordan's measured hand length - 9.75", per google. Height of the square on top of the backboard - 11'6" (10-foot to the rim, 18-inches to the top of the square itself) This means that putting his hand over the top of the backboard meant that he got the base of his hand (which was 7'10.25" subtracting his hand length from his reach) to a height of 11'6". To do that he would need a vertical leap of at least... (drumroll please) 43.75" If you want to add to or correct any of the math here, please do so.

@@ben_wolfe8 I see your point. But he had a 45.6 vertical in college. Those measurements were taken as part of a physics study in 1983 when he was a sophomore. It’s possible that his vertical could have decreased in a year’s time. But it’s more likely that it increased as his bones and muscles matured. But you may be right.

@@Viper_75th_RR also here’s an interview where someone asks him if his vertical has ever been measured and he says no: th-cam.com/users/shorts-eD5BW_GWXk?si=-W6R_6OSo5YixhTT

Obviously I know that. I test my vertical all the time. Also, your main point about a 6’2 guard having a 49 isn’t even accurate information. You’re referring to shaedon sharpe, who was alleged to have a 49 due to a mismeasurement during a private workout prior to the NBA draft, which other teams (like the pacers) actively refuted since he tested much lower when working out for them. Also, watch this video by dunkademics: th-cam.com/video/4Fr23172_iw/w-d-xo.html&si=a2GDJWTQxlLW6lUG Or literally any video by them of people under 6’ doing crazy dunks. You’re gonna see guys who are under 6 ft getting their head above the rim, with or without the ball. The fact that Jordan never did that, with or without the ball directly contradicts the possibility he had a 48. Explain to me how guys who are measured at a 50 while being 8 inches shorter are jumping significantly higher than him. Do you think they’re lying about their verticals being way lower than they are or something?

I get why you would think that from the title damn. I rlly might’ve clickbaited by accident 😭

Nah Gerald Green’s 39 is his true max vertical. At the combine in ‘05-‘06 he tested a 31.5” standing and 39.0” max. Same thing with DJ who tested a 26.0” standing and a 30.5” max.

@@ben_wolfe8 they must’ve had tired legs during combine then because they obviously jump higher than that. Including Blake Griffin.

Green was probably scared to come out the air. He was that far up.

Exactly. Even if you’re tired in a game, or have the ball in your hand, or any other cope someone would give. You would have your head at or above the rim a lot

@@ben_wolfe8 15 years in the league and we don't have one. Only one I have seen is his reverse about 2" lower in '85. I think his vertical might have been 40" or 42" on a good day. Still phenomenal but not reason to lie about it. Not to bring Bron into it; but his is 40+ some say 42 , 43,44 and we clearly have many images of his head at/above the rim especially Miami. I forget who said it I think John Sally said MJ was great but media tried to create a mythical creature.

@@user-wv9zv4qo6n I totally agree and the biggest problem is that saying anything other than “MJ is the greatest person to ever happen and everything about him that’s positive is true and everything negative is false” is viewed as hating. John Salley was onto something even back then

@@ben_wolfe8agree !

@@user-wv9zv4qo6nlebron is taller than mj which means he doesn’t have to jump as high as Jordan for his head to be at or above the rim plus Jordan has proof of him hitting his head on the backboard lol

That’s a good point, I knew he had one and two foot bounce so I went back and watched his dunk highlights and noticed he can jump off his left and right foot, but I think he only goes left-right for two-foot dunks. Great example tho

Thank you!

A pretty random analogy is to think of a fisherman that is heavily into their niche and can guess the weight and species of a fish, almost exactly to a T and is right most of the time. They could probably call bs on someone else’s claim about a fish’s weight simply bc of their experience, even if it looks good enough to people outside of that niche or who are casually into it. In this analogy, I’m the fisherman since I watch this kinda thing every single day and am familiar with how most high verticals happen bc of measurement errors that are typically intentional. Everyone in my niche and who has actually seen a 48”+ vertical agrees that Jordan wasn’t anywhere close to that for good reason. You’re right though, there’s no “proof” of either side but it’s just as silly to believe the 48 that his trainer claimed years after the fact with great incentive to lie

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except it was a dunk contest and Jordan was a one foot jumper also palming the ball is no problem for Jordan stop meat riding him smh

1.) he’s carrying a ball is a good point but he can palm/control it easily enough so it doesn’t take away from his speed or arm swing. 2.) jumping off one or two doesn’t matter, it’s a preference thing and Jordan jumped higher off one foot. 3.) weight does not matter, %body fat does and he and I are both very skinny. In fact, people like him who are tall and skinny jump a lot higher off one foot so it’s an advantage for the type of jumping he did. 4.) this is Jordan’s highest recorded hang time so you better hope that trajectory doesn’t matter (he did jump off two a lot and was much more balanced at both than someone like LeBron but was still better off one) 5.) this was in a dunk contest he obviously wasn’t tired and prepared for it

@@ben_wolfe8 well said

People make dumb ass troll comments on my videos ab Jordan so yes I am kidding in response to those

He also grabbed the rim which inflates his hang time

That’s what this entire channel is 💀

When my comment section still doesn’t realize I can dunk 💀 (5’8” dunker) #dunk #nba #verticaljump

​@ben_wolfe8 you still don't jump higher than MJ 🤷‍♂️

I still jump higher than your GOAT🤡 #michaeljordan #vertical #bounce

MJ didn’t test his at the combine. His trainer is the one who claimed he had a 48 and it was years later in order to sell his book called “jump attack”

@@ben_wolfe8 even better. So it’s in NBA records that’s his vertical. What does the nba have to gain by lying about that? They said wilt had a 50inch vertical but it’s not official so why MJ was official?

@@teegotti2635 you’re not understanding what I’m saying. It’s not an “nba record” since he never did it at the combine. If you look on NBA.com you’ll see that the draft combine record was 45.5” until it was broken by Keon Johnson at 48.0” (and btw he cheated his reach, he magically had a reach 4 inches lower than everyone else at the combine with his same height and wingspan bc the only players above 45” occur bc of measurement errors or intentional inflation). Also Jordan “recorded his 48” in a private gym with just him and his trainer so nobody can verify it. I actually also tested a 48.25” on a vert tree and you can find it on my channel. Only difference is mine is on video and Jordan’s isn’t. And I still realize my trainer made a mistake that he’s never made since and that my own vert was inflated due to a measurement error. I’m a lot more interested in preserving true information than perpetuating false stories simply bc “ooh amazing.” As for your question “why would the NBA lie?” they didn’t, they don’t claim Jordan’s vert is a 48”, just clueless news outlets all originating from a book written by Jordan’s trainer (who would obviously be incentivized to lie to hire more clients and sell more books).

@@ben_wolfe8 did you also do a video on wilts 50 inch vertical claim as well? And supposedly last year shaedon sharpe had a 49 inch vertical. Just curious in your choice of content

Great point lol I even agree he’s the goat but people love protecting lore regardless of whether or not its even slightly believable

@@ben_wolfe8 they don’t even have his standing reach on google officially. There’s no way they recorded his vert accurately in 84

How would you verify it? The origin is from a book written by Jordan’s trainer (who obviously had incentive to lie to hire more clients and sell more books). He didn’t do it at the combine or whatever other bs people keep claiming. It happened in a private gym with nobody else watching.

I really think Jordan has a vertical like Vince Carter

There’s an actual academic study showing that Jordan had a vertical of 45.6 inches.