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Peter Worsley
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Bates Tango Windmill powered catamaran
Inventor and engineer Jim Bates from New Zealand designed and built this wind-turbine powered boat which had the unique ability to sail directly into the wind that powered it.
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Rotary Testing
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Rotary Sailing (Horizontal Axis) Testing - working sometimes with the natural wind but helping the wind out with an electric fan. The model can't stop hitting the front of the tank as it tries to go directly into the incoming wind.
Wingsail Control Mechanism
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The power leaver connects with the sliding cam by Bowden (cycle) cables see windthrusters.com/story.html
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Automatic self-trimming wingsail see www.windthrusters.com/story3.html
Sailwings self-trimming wingsail system
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This is a mechanical system for wingsail control. The windthrust to the boat is controlled automatically at all times with the only control for the pilot is a simple lever Forward, Neutral and Reverse no further adjusting system - no ropes no sheets no winches everything is automatic except the control to go stop or reverse. The system gives exactly the same power in reverse setting. You can st...
Testing self-adjusting Wingsail
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Testing my patented wingsail system. A much easier user-friendly form of sailing. Very suitable for the disabled. Everything is automatic - just move the control lever and go! See www.windthrusters.net/simplicity.html
Sailwings automatic wingsail control
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This is a simple system which enables sailing to be controlled just from a single lever forward, neutral and reverse. see www.windthrusters.com/story.html
Sailwings automatic wingsail
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This non electronic system enables sailing using only one control forward - neutral and reverse. No other control is required. It makes sailing as simple as using using the throttle on a motor boat. See www.windthrusters.com/story.html
Automatic wingsail control.
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This shows how the movement of the thrust lever is transmitted to the sliding cam assembly beneath the wingsail. Cycle type gear cables are used to make a smooth motion. See www.windthrusters.com/story.html
Thrust control for automatic wingsail system
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This is the control lever fitted to the boat. It transmits via cycle cables movement to the sliding cam unit which is fitted at the base of the wingsail see: www.windthrusters.com/story.html
Windmill Driven Cart windmill driven car
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Windmill Driven Cart windmill driven car
Experimental model wind-turbine boat plans are here: http://www.sailwings.net/windspinner.html
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Experimental model wind-turbine boat plans are here: www.sailwings.net/windspinner.html
Do you know Lucy?
Yeah okay
Very interesting! I was wondering if there would be some value in increasing the gearing to the control surface (tailplane) so that an angle of attack for the wing of say 10 or 12 degrees is achieved by the time the wind is at 30 degrees to the boat heading but also to introduce some lost motion so that the angle of attack does not go beyond the stall even when the wind is abeam. I guess there is the issue of eventually putting the wing into a fully stalled position for the dead down-wind run. Perhaps a pin running in a profiled track could achieve this.
Clever design, simple words but profoundly explained. Thanks!
E o que tem qacontecido desde então? Já está disponível a venda? Já tem muitos utilizando?
Sure would like to see some tacking and jibbing in another video but it moves nicely 👍🍀
Even classical music blaring in the background can't hide the fact this guy is simply blowing down wind
from my observations you are incorrect
From 24 seconds onwards it looks like the wind is approximately abeam.
Would making the wingsail bigger make the boat go faster?
Yes sure
Looks like forward is mixed up with reverse. You boat will go backwards in 'forward' if rigged this way.
There are always comments from the less intelligent who cannot understand the simplest of things.
I thought that initially but he has got it right.
@@ColinMill1 Yes Peter W is right. I mistunderstood the trim wing as a flap but it's not. Its a 'tailplane' providing decalage to the main wing. ie. the trim wing acts opposite to the wing to set an angle to the wind in the same way a tailplane on an aircraft provides downforce to set the lift angle on a planes main wing. So yes, when the lever is pushed 'forward' indeed the mainsail will rotate to the provide forward lift and the trim wing acts opposite to this lift vector to set the main wing (sail) angle.
@@peterlelievre Many thanks for the reply. I have been giving this problem a little thought and, I think, as the wind angle moves away from zero one needs to quite quickly establish an angle of attack for the sail close to the best L/D value (perhaps 10 to 15 degrees depending on the aspect ratio of the rig) and that this should increase more gradually so the Clmax is reached for the beam reach situation. At 180 degrees having the tailplane at something approaching 90 degrees is needed to get the sail at about 90 degrees to the wind (though the shift of the centre of effort towards the 50% chord location will shift that requirement somewhat). As for the range of angles from beam reach to dead down wind it obviously depends on Cl & Cd characteristics well beyond the stall and that data is somewhat thin on the ground with Riegels' "Aerofoil Sections" being the only one that gives both for the full 0 to 360 degree range (and then, if I remember correctly, for a FW190 wing!)
Absolutely magnificent!
Bravo.
hook the windmill up to a water turbine geared up and the boat should be able to move faster than the wind.
so cool! I xas looking for a automatic control for a project with a wing like that on a boat, i am really inspirated by your system! thank you to share this idea!
Parabéns pela iniciativa 😊
Elegant solution! I'm thinking of making this on my foiling catamaran, I'd compact the mech very low down, and endplate the wing. I'm a long way off yet, but I have a working platform with a soft sail for now. Love your ideas!
Has this been tested? I like it A LOT! It seems that sail GP boats have 2 things for power. The wing sail, which is essentially a high aspect ratio wing with an oversized aileron for the chord depth, looks close to 50/50. Also, and critically, both the wing and jib are endplated. Esp the jib. Similar to winglets on the tips of aircraft wings, but at the root, which concentrates pressure at the root, instead of bleeding pressure.
Yes it has been tested if you go to the address mentioned in the description you can get the full story www.windthrusters.com/story.html
@@WindThrusters I got that document Thankyou, and the full size wing test platform, most excellent! Surprising the wing isn't taller. What are your thoughts on endplates? I'm currently testing a soft sail in a high aspect wing format, with panel stiffeners to keep the aero shape. Instead of end plating to the deck of the boat, I'm going to try endplating to the boom, and see how that goes, in light of windsurfers (and sail GP) that feel a turbo effect when the sail is closed to the deck. You've inspired me to innovate! 🤟
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Beyond clever.
Elegant experiment. I was pretty sure a windmill powered boat could sail straight into the wind, helps to actually see it, assuming there are no strings being pulled. An idea I've been piddling with is how the ancient Atlantians might have sailed, using primitive windmill and wood gearing machinery: th-cam.com/video/jnrM8HG_eQE/w-d-xo.html
Do you mind if others use this design? I assume you are open to the idea since you post on TH-cam.
Yes, by all means use it. If you look at my channel you will see several videos of how it works, and how it can be constructed
I think it's interesting, how the keyboard warriors on Usenet were objecting. A land craft can sail, using a windmill, direct upwind faster than the wind; a water craft has enough resistance that that would be impossible at practicable scales, but using a windmill you can absolutely generate enough power from the apparent wind to get somewhere. If I build a boat (which tbh I won't, just economically restricted) I will absolutely include a large deployable wind turbine (as well as a deployable traditional-ish sail system, when I want to sail outside of the no-go zones since I would sacrifice the directional pivot on the turbine for simplicity), and after proving I can, I will invite aboard anyone who thinks you cannot sail directly into the true wind.
That is a brilliant design sir 💪🏼💪🏼
yeah, it works, there is a full size version catamaran.Why not use a Vertical turbine and make use of the magnus effect?
You cannot go directly against the wind with a Flettner (Magnus) rotor
I’ve recently become interested in wind-turbine “sail” boats and I really appreciate this channel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
incredible
That's really interesting. Have you tried testing that on open water yet?
Oh yes, many times, it always goes to the u;pwind end of the pond! Quite fast.
Thanks this was very helpfull!
Great design! I'am going to build a model based on this design this summeri. I have studied it carefully and I have been wondering how it works when the boat is heading right downwind?
Hello Hannu one way is to avoid going direct downwind but tack 45 degree either side where there is some thrust - I'm told fast catamarans do this also. You can also fit a mainsheet to prevent the rig rotating more than 180 degrees. Then on downwind the rig will be across the boat and providing the greatest drag. But if you do this you will have to gybe when the wind comes across to the other side.
@@WindThrusters That is what I thaught too. Have you come across with any good suggestions which airfoil for the main wing or the flap would work best on this kind of design?
@@hannurinne7898 Yes I used naca 0018 symmetrical 18 percent thick airfoil quite successfully. For the tail a flat sheet is probably ok as in the case of light aircraft. please email me from my website www.sailwings.net for further information
Does this rely on the relative efficiencies of the two props? ... the water propeller having a greater efficiency than the air propeller.
Hi - no it doesn't. They both need to be efficient. The water is much denser than the air - thats why the propeller is smaller. It works from the difference in velocities of the 2 mediums. Water stationary - air moving. You can find out more on this page windthrusters.com/headwind.html
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So to sum it up, the difference is in the tail configuration
This is genius
Any small scale wind tunnel tests?
It works. Don't think would learn much more from windtunnel testing.
@@WindThrusters I just watched the entire series.. You're a genius!!
@@superkamehameha1744 Thanks!
Brilliant. And very elegant.
This is brilliant. Well done Peter.
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Love it Peter! Your friend Henry Crafer
Man I love it. Now how do I put one on a small boat?
Check out my website on www.windthrusters.com/story3.html
@@WindThrusters what about downwind, when the wind is comming from behind. I guess if you have wind blowing in your face you can have a micro controller adjusting the rudder and change the direction. But if you have wind from behind you will need some sort of engine to force the sail in locked sideways possition?
@@toroddlnning6806 you can constrain it from going more than 180 degrees. Or you can tack downwind
See windthrusters.com/story.html
Thank you Peter for all the work. We need people like you.
Great job, I would like to know how to scale it up for an 18 foot bilge Keeler .
Dear John - You can find most of the information on www.sailwings.net/siteindex.html
have you considered vertical axis wind turbine
Ilove the music.. and the ladder... all good! viva the sail wing
The music is "The Ride of the Valkeries" by Richard Wagner. Aluminium ladders are the most strong and light solution you can find anywhere. In France they have even been used to make ultralight aircraft.
What's the advantage of using a horizontal axis wind turbine that has to face into the wind over a vertical axis wind turbine that eliminates this need?
A vertical axis turbine works well on a fixed land base. But to penetrate the wind you need something that does not produce too much drag. Each of the windblades are wings and they can produce as much as 20 times more lift than drag (as in planes) the lift produced is converted into rotary motion to drive the boat. with only a small drag penalty. A vertical axis turbine can never progress against the wind.
From my experience on bikes, cables can break, even when not exposed to a lot of moisture and salt. Given the general simplicity of the system, why not use solid linkages instead, which are much less prone to failure?
Yes, quite a good idea. Would depend upon the environment it would be used in.
This is reminiscent of a helicopter's pitch control mechanism.
I love the idea of it, but how are you sure that the angle of the trimming tail is optimal for every angle? I get that it will move to something possibly close to optimal, but what is optimal should take into account the lift performance of the particular tail and the force needed to move the wing. Am I missing something here?
The force needed to move the wing is very small because the wing pivots on its centre of effort - this is what you see on planes that have all-moving tail (stabiliser). However some degree of fine tuning is possible by altering the position of the "Throttle" lever. see my page www.windthrusters.com/story.html
They work amazingly well....i played with one years back on a 14ft sailing dingy, even thought it was not as big as i initially wanted to build, it drove the dingy as well as the conventional sail almost 3 times the sq/ft of the wing.......When i get the chance i intend to build another wingsail with a few tweaks i think worth trying out
Классная работа. Мой знакомый уже ходит th-cam.com/video/cjcPoIb4Ifg/w-d-xo.html
What am I looking at here?
Check out the link given = www.windthrusters.com/story3.html
Brilliant!