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Yay! She’s back. Love Scholastica

Very good. I’ll send for the book

I first heard of J.C. Hawes as a teenager in the 1960s when I read the biography of him (The Hermit of Cat Island) by Peter Anson, who would have coincided with him at Caldey. He also wrote the definitive history of that community as well as a life of Abbot Aelred Carlyle.

Very Interesting!

Worth adding to Fr Robert's excellent talk: After his religious "awakening" in 1901, Hawes was quite ready to abandon architecture completely. He saw architecture as a distraction from his newly-determined true path. He was initially quite reluctant to take on the St Christopher's church project in Gunnerton, but Bishop Hornby must have been quite persuasive, and talked him around. Thank goodness he did! From that time on, Hawes always had an internal struggle between his love of architecture and his devotion to the church. One of the excellent books that has been written about Hawes is titled "Between Devotion and Design" (by John Taylor, 2000), and the title sums it up very well.

Listening from Rochester, NY. Really happy about all these talks on largely forgotten Catholic people.

Very interesting! Thanks, from Perth, Western Australia.

1549 was an interesting year. I live near Wymondham near where Robert Kett began his rebellion.

Course there be no top down imposition today......where CE has ended up is sorry mess current tines

great talk thank you

Wonderful talk!

now i understand the real reason for the enacting the separation of church and state. i used to believe what my uni professors taught that the separation was to stop religion from influencing society. Now watching this video its making more sense, back in Queen Elizabeth's rein it was the state meddling in church matters and forcing people to attend common church services. Its gov over reach that the church is trying to protect itself from by accepting the separation. My professors were either disingenous or not critical thinkers. I have to ask myself how come there was no necessity for this policy of separation for the previous 1000 years of church and state interaction but it became necessary after the protestant heresy?

Nice content!

Most interesting. Thank you very much.

A worthier candidate along with Catherine of Aragon for feminist icons than Harry's Wife 2, their Chosen Martyr.

Better to be a " sister" than dead

I always wondered why there was old ruins in UK and Ireland, Ireland is full of them everywhere.

James I seemed to be a pragmatic King who would compromise when he needed to. His comment to his wife to be careful of what she does and what she said or the crown could be in danger reflects his political instincts on how to survive. His son the future Charles I was less of a compromiser than James even though he tried to do what he thought was best for the kingdom. Charles was murdered and did not deserve to die at the hands of regicide’s.

Gods, y’all, adjust the play speed if you think he talks too slow.

All this lecture confirms is that the English are enthusiastic heretics

Greater poverty and starvation followed. Cities were inundated with poor and diseased people. The London plague and Great Fire followed in the next century. This is no coincidence.

It doesn’t seem like a perspective from a Catholic point of view, or even an English point of view? Were the English people better off for the dissolution? What would England and the world be like if the monasteries and religious hadn’t been slaughtered? What we do know is the last prime minister worships cows and the present one is an atheist.

Thank you very much , I really enjoyed this presentation, 🙏🏻

I am Orthodox Greek so bring a pro -monastic slant to this subject but from different perspective. From a tradition that indeed had a reformation of sorts in Petrine Russia that sought to curtail monasticism but not to ban it. The destruction of monasteries was a disaster in every aspect of life in the British isles.

James II was okay. Was interested in American colonies.

Yet more propaganda and lies from the followers of the serpant in Rome .

James II was not totally bad. Interesting about popish plot.

I lived in Oxford for a dozen years and have always been associated with Catholicism and had a couple relatives that ran priories at one time or another. I am a Psychologist and I think you downplay the vindictiveness of Henry VIII.

Sad portion of English history

A few years ago I visited a priory which had been dissolved before the Dissolution got going (there were only a couple of nuns left and perhaps their character wasn't great). Nothing was left of the buildings but piles of flints and maybe a cellar BUT the land was handed over to a Cambridge college which took possession of its records--so the records exist but not the building. I also visited the wonderful church at Romsey, which was part of an abbey of nuns at the time of the Dissolution; the townspeople petitioned to keep the church, which they had been using along with the nuns, and it still stands, a beautiful place of worship with an active congregation. However, all the abbey's records up to that time were completely lost, so the earliest document is the sealed deed (?) of Henry VIII granting the church to the people. I really enjoyed this lecture, which fits well with what I learned, i.e, that each case was different.

Fascinating! Please continue with your interesting research.

You sadly move from being a historian to being a polemicist, which is such a pity. You condemn quite rightly the ridiculous Victorian notion that the abolition of the Monastic tradition was evidence of the birth of Democracy but soon after you veer into the dream of monks adopting the zeal of reform all on their own volition! It’s not quite as absurd as the pathway to democracy but it’s moving from the reality into a wishful dream non the less. Of course Abbots were trying to placate Henry and Cromwell but they were doing all they could because they could see the writing on the wall. It takes a very, very brave individual to stand up to political and royal pressure and threats. Imagine what you would do if you were likely to face hanging and drawing and the torture that preceded it. Henry needed the money; Cromwell got it for him. The ‘privatisation’ of Monastic England became a necessity because the King needed cash. I know how powerful the romance of a lost world is; I’m 76 and have spent a lifetime visiting monastic sites all over England (and Scotland) often remote fields full of rubble and bits of architectural fragments. There are contemporary accounts and laments of the destruction by locals who only a few years before had been working for the monks on their buildings. There was little idealism then and you need to reflect that now I’m afraid :-)

Very enjoyable, scholarly talk. Thank you. G Ire

I am delighted to have come across this talk. G Ire

Please please talk a little faster

A fascinating talk . Very many thanks.

We did have to pay for the British Navey.

I’m Protestant but I went to a Catholic university, I love cathedrals and art. What Henry VIII did was theft from the living and the dead.

Was alternately delighted, incredulous, and amazed at your reformation of the English Reformation. Yes, God forbid that “psychological factors” ever be used to explain the behavior of a misogynistic murderer. As for the Jerusalem Chamber and so-called monastic wealth, historians like you seldom mention that the collective thinking from Medieval times forward was that it was unseemly for the sons and daughters of aristocrats who joined religious houses to “be kept meanly,” as the thinking was. So Henry and his chosen aristocrats were taking the property of the still Catholic aristocrats and their children and grandchildren who were monks and nuns. You have to read a wide swath of history to learn that, for example, women had to come to the convent with dowries, or were not admitted. Strange and mercenary to us, but that day’s usual and ordinary expectation for women. Didn’t aristocrats choose to marry only women who brought property and money to them? Interesting how Brits have long justified the Dissolution. I heartily disagree with your conclusion. It was not “complex.” It was a colossal land grab, pure and simple. We Americans have had land grabs, too. Like Oklahoma. But it didn’t take us 488 years to admit it. Or, under President Biden and certain 20th century presidents to make reparations-not enough yet. But your people are still where we were in the 19th century.

Is there a note that for all their wealth, it seems like the monasteries would have been inhabited by sons of local families and were not “driven by profit motive” as we know it today.

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I read that Henry had to deal with plague and drought and the Church had a lot of acres which had been left fallow so he had to take them over. The provison of food for the survivors of disease and drought meant he had to get hold of good land for crops and grazing which the monasteries had acquired from past bequests. When given to God they could not be sold was the legal situation.!

I am surprised with the lack of reasoable historical conclusions. I am from from a dual family background. However, I am a person from IRELAND and cannot see how one can ignore what was taking place under his control in IRELAND. I mean parallel matters that should be taken for consideration.

If the TLM is forbidden for now we must suffer the NO with a sense of love and reparation. Just our resistance will be sand in the shoe of the modernist. We are called to carry our cross and offer up our sufferings in reparation. There is scripture on this.

Sounds like straight up rationalization of theft and murdering those who resist the robber barons. Hanky Pank 8 is as guiltless of crime as Pontus Pilate washing his own hands...no wait, they were both responsible for what they allowed.

There are only 3 or 4 universities in Great Britain now offering Theology degrees. That also has been closing down recently.

The Roman Catholic Church has been going down the tubes and closing itself down with all of its wrong ecumenism, both Christian ecumenism and ecumenism towards a religion like Islam and its alien agenda, over the past 60 years.

english nobles copied the german, ie 1) they stole as much church property (land, buildings, chattels, liturgy & ceremonies) as they could, and 2) they legalised usury - which was, is and always will be condemned as immoral..prods are usurers’ minions

It was explained to me by a Catholic friend who was involved in the sale of a diocese from one order to another. The income generated was a central issue...these are commercial enterprises. He was shocked because it's all hidden by the religious image.

Excellent video! Glad I found your channel. Being Catholic myself I am glad there are Societies in the UK that preserve Britain's Catholic Heritage. ❤