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Yes, if I needed to. As long as each end of the orange rope is secured properly, and you cannot drag the blue rope connecting point over a hip edge or gable end of a roof … then this is effective.

@@BlueGlassLLC If both ends of the orange rope are secure then why is the blue rope needed?

@@inthedarkwoods2022 the orange rope becomes a temporary anchor point so that you can go other places safely. Keeps you from installing an anchor on the roof itself.

Thanks! I’d like to see that solution. When I Google, all I get back is rules and regulations. Can you supply a link?

You’re welcome. That’s a lot of expertise and work to earn those certifications! Glad you are doing it safely. We have a gutter cleaning job coming up (most likely in February) that I’ll probably do for the next 10 years or until the owner moves. I’ll be installing a couple of our permanent anchors (the V-5 or V-18) first so that it will be easier and safer in the future. I’ll post a video when it’s done.

Hahaha! That’s funny. There was once it was very close when the line tightened too quickly and it swung back to the house. I heard the thud and thought we just bought a window. I was quite relieved once I got around the house and saw everything is ok. Very good point and a possibility.

Although they can work sometimes, we avoid chicken ladders because: it’s not actual fall protection (it’s just a tool to climb with), they don’t work on hip roofs, they are limited to a 20’ reach and so if it’s further than that to the ridge it won’t work, they bend at the top, are heavy, don’t work very well if a ridge vent is present and can easily scratch a metal roof. That being said, sometimes we do use them but always have a separate rope in place for fall protection. Excellent question. Thanks for bringing that up.

@BlueGlassLLC Ahhh...I understand. Seen the chicken ladders on regular composite shingle roofs. But not on a metal roof. I can see that the ridge vent might be a potential safety issue too. Thanks for explaining it all. Safety first for sure.

I don’t really know enough about climbing terminology to answer that. We were just sharing how we work safely on the first trip up.

Thanks. Excellent point! Yes, we developed our V-18 permanent ridge anchor this past Spring for that same reason. It’s already been specified on some nice large projects. It’s on our website www.slator-usa.com

I don’t know. The original structure was used as a tavern for travelers passing through this town over 200 years ago. So, that may change the value.

Big Shot Slingshot.

Yeah, I’m not one of them. They are very talented.

Hmmmm. Ok.

Thank you.

Thank you. We hope it’s helpful for folks. As you see, it’s very simple to be safe if we decide we want to be.

Yes. The folks who built this house 120 years ago made the roof gorgeous. Little things … make big things beautiful.

Yes, very simple. Slating is a fun trade too. 👍

Yeah, it happens so fast that you don’t even have time to yell. I got saved by my rope 3 years ago. Sorry about your colleagues.

Thanks. Glad to be helpful.

You were ahead of your time! Good job being safe, and thank you.

Thanks.

You’re welcome. Yes, that’s a valid concern. As you know, it will be a function of your roof pitch and how much tension you apply to the rope. You might be surprised at how little tension it takes to keep you on a roof. Steeper roofs require more tension. Slack, then a slip, then tension until the sliding stops will put a lot more downward force on your ridgecap… and possibly denting it. Still, a dented ridge cap (although undesirable) is much better than the consequences of a fall. If it’s a regular thing you need to repeat, then you may want to consider our V-18 permanent ridge anchor on our website Slator-usa.com

@BlueGlassLLC I'll check into that, thanks so much!

Yeah. Petzl rocks. Started by a young machinist who liked to go cave exploring about 100 years ago. They continue to be innovative.

We tied off the orange rope to the base of one of those huge bushes near the access ladder. I wish I’d shown that in the video. Good question. The red thing is the 36” long Supermantle rope protect from PMI. Their HQ is in Georgia and they have some really good ropes too. It is about $40.

@@BlueGlassLLC Thanks for the quick reply and info

Thank you.

We just decided that a non-negotiable for us was going to be having fall protection on our first ascent to set our roof anchors and our final descent once the last roof anchor was pulled. Then we realized that arborists have already solved the problem, and so we adapted their technique. They get the credit.

We experimented with 2 ropes to practice putting an anchor point on the top so we could work on either side of the roof (when we have both ends of the first rope tied off).

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Thanks.

Yeah. 😂 Me too, and I’m the one who did it! It’s still pretty easy though. All you really need is the bean bag (good throwing technique), a throw line and a single rope to pull into position. That’s how we generally do it nowadays.

Um, no. 😂😂 It’s a sling, made for this sort of stuff.

@@BlueGlassLLC hahaha ok thanks, I’m a painter often in situations requiring more of this knowledge

The “roofing” ladders here are abysmal. So, a ridge hook fastened to half of an aluminum extension ladder is the most common. Still, the hook is primitive and unreliable. We always use separate fall protection. I don’t recall if there were any ridge slate on this roof or not, but that’s a good point. Sometimes the ridge hook cannot make it over the ridge profile properly. Nowadays, I almost always just install our red SLATOR bracket and use slings to hold adjacent ladders. We have some videos of that technique on our channel somewhere.

Our non-negotiable practice is to set up a secure fall protection anchor, connect to it and keep our rope tight. After that, the ladders are primarily to keep us from walking or standing on the slate. Yes, they also provide nice footing, but we plan our fall protection so that if they all disappeared at once while we’re working, that we’d still not slide off the roof. So, if you’re fall protection is sound you can experiment safely with your ladders.

You’re welcome. Glad it’s helpful.

We use Petzl’s Ray 11 mm and Axis ropes. Static. They are compatible with Petzl’s ASAP lock mobile fall arrestor system (which we use daily). We also have used successfully PMI’s 11 mm static ropes, the Classic Hudson and Extreme Pro. Other 11 mm static ropes may work fine as well, but I recommend you test them for compatibility with the gear you are using first.

Thanks. Glad it’s helpful. Probably the easiest way to learn more is by visiting our website. Underneath the “Learning” tab on the home page menu is a lot of good information and answers to why I choose certain types of gear. Slator-usa.com

​@@BlueGlassLLCyour website has been so helpful in selecting quality gear and reading your advice on all topics thank you! Please share more photos on your website of your team in action with all your scaffolding, ladder, rope etc setup if you have time they are great to study and learn from. Also, I look forward to when you finish the listed sections on your website menu that are not yet available.

@@chrisdonner2910 I’m glad it’s helpful. You are quite welcome. Thanks for working safely and being a role model for whoever is learning from you. Not sure I’ll ever finish the website, so if you ever have a specific question or want to discuss a solution to a current challenge, fill out the contact form on the website and I’ll call you if you’re in the States.

@@BlueGlassLLC Thank you for your reply. Do you still offer the L3 low slope brackets? What pitches are they designed for?

@@chrisdonner2910 we have a few in stock that we have saved for our own use. We do not make them anymore because there’s just not enough demand for them. They are designed for low slope use only.