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I've made some large fins but nothing too big yet. I use the 3/4 future fins boxes in my boards and strengthen them with 1 or 2 glass patches around the box when I glass the board. Sometimes a patch under the box and using glass bubbles in the epoxy. I'll also sand and flame treat the boxes. I've blown out the bottom out of a few boxes from hitting rocks but so far no issues from large fins.

For centre fins you just set the arm so the fin is at 0 degrees. Double foiled fins work, you sometimes need to prop the tail edge out with something so its angled correctly. Every time I've done centre fins I've just had to set the arm so the fin is set to 0 degrees. The arm is really just so the fin leans against it, its not supporting much weight so you don't need a large surface against it.

Thanks! I'm still trying to test it out, I havn't had much for waves to work with. I have had a leak in it which lead to a small delam from the wood warping when drying from the leak. Better glue would have made it a non issue but I used what I had. Verdict is still out if this board works or not haha. If I glassed it or used epoxy/waterproof glue it. It would have been a better choice. Pallet wood is far from ideal but being free, and with how this turned out even with the small leak I think its worth trying a larger build. I love the idea of the sandwiching it between veneer, if you try it you will have to let me know how it goes!

@@toniachetwood8887 I have a video on the silicone molds but not the HDPE ones. All it really is, is the tab shape milled out of HDPE with a set screw to hold the fin in place. I'll be making some fiberglass tab videos in the future, maybe I'll add an HDPE one.

Thanks! I could see it working if you lamed it into a sheet, then used it with an internal frame. Maybe some form of resin infusion could work to make the sheet. Would be really cool board but a ton of work.

Yeeeww!

Id definitely go for a larger board with more pallets this is going to be a real challenge to surf. However its a fun project and an easy way to test out the chambered board process on budget. Worst case you end up with a cool wall hanger or turn it into a coffee table.

@@WaveWasters no yeah I was thinking of a staggered pattern like bricks to get a longer piece and after something a bit smaller to make sure it works how I want it, going with a longboard design

Thanks John! First attempt at surfing this was a bust, I think its going to need the right conditions to surf it. Fun project either way and hopefully the next test goes better!

@@WaveWasters Awww...sorry to hear that...bummer! You can surf a door so you will get it, I'm sure! When you do, make sure there's a camera rolling...lol! Cheers, John

@@GoodRoads thank Chris! This one was more work to put together than I wanted, hopefully the next one is easier. I keep checking your Channel to see if theres new videos, hopefully I see one pop up soon😛

@@WaveWasters Taking my time getting back into it so I don't do another false-start, but I definitely want to get back to projects soon!

@@GoodRoads Awesome! take your time its a grind to stay consistent and you don't want to burn yourself out

@@allsurf That would be awesome! Do you think you will make a video of the build?

@@WaveWasters Definately. I’m way behind on editing 2 board builds as I’ve been busy remodeling our home for a year but would definitely film that.

@@allsurf editing is always the slowest part, it's a lot more work then people realize. I'm stoked to see your builds when you post them!

@@WaveWasters Thanks. Got to put my film school and editing background to use although Final Cut Pro will take time to dial in.

@@allsurf I have the same background, I still miss the old final cut pro 😆

Thank! I don't think I'll surf these fins in it, as I want to sell them. As soon as we get waves, it's been so flat lately haha.

Thanks Laura! Hopefully there is some good waves soon to test it out.

@@callalilycollective Thanks! It was a lot of fun to make, using the pallet wood took a lot of the stress away. It may not surf well but it was a great way to test out the chambering process without spending much money.

@@asce2273 Thanks! I went back and forth on adding foam to it especially where I didn't glass it. In the end I decided to go without. Partly so if it leaks really bad I can dry it out quickly, and partly to minimize materials used. Maybe for the next one I'll try adding foam, I have lots of scraps I could use.

How would foam inside make it more buoyant? You're adding more mass to the same volume. Maybe it would help with thermal swelling and contracting to lower the loading on the glue joints. I could see it adding some structural support on deck loading for hollow frame and skin would board though.

@@callalilycollective Only makes it more buoyant when it eventually leaks, which is why I considered it😆. Other wise your just adding a little bit of weight/structural support. I could also be wrong though.

@@WaveWasters continuing to play devils advocate, won’t open cell foam increase the water retained once it does leak? Adding a vent and airing it out without foam would probably reduce water weight more.

But this is chambered wooden board, with this method of construction you usually won't add in any foam. What you mean probably is different type of construction when they shape a board out of EPS foam and then they glue on the wooden rails and vaccuum bag the wooden skin deck and bottom... if I am wrong I would be happy to be corrected. Cheers. Anyway Matt great build! Looking forward to watch some surfing vid of this little beast :)))))

5'1.5" I can't remember the exact with but it was around 20" at the widest point.

@@lawrencefranck9417 I'd love to get into stabilizing wood, I just didn't have that type of resin at the time. In the future I'd like to get some to try out

Depending on the lens you want to add it could work without as much modding. Lenses with longer flange distances than the m12 lenses would be easier to adapt. Big thing is finding a lens with an Ir filter or finding a separate ir filter for the lens.

Sounds like a fun project, definitely let me know how they turn out!

Maybe a little compared to wood fins but to fibreglass about the same. They are pretty thick though

Thanks John! Have to work with what I have available, hopefully some day I can upgrade the bandsaw to cut bigger logs.

When I started making fins years before I started the channel I used roving a lot. Some of my best fins used it but I always found it hit or miss. I think its because I was using slow set epoxy it would shift a little or cause the glass to bubble. I found it worked best glassing one side of the fin then the other. Once I got into vacuum bagging even with this crude setup. I found I was getting better results glassing both side of the fin at once without roving. It also cut glassing and sanding time in half with better results aside from some leading edge bubbles. I've been experimenting with resin infusion which may be an even better option.

Thanks! Batching the fins out has been really fun. But i'm itching to make some more weird projects.

Hahaha this is from a maple tree that fell on my garden, can't let free wood goto waste. I should make a fin with maple syrup in it, might give the fin a little more hold haha. Thanks! It's hard to come up with ideas for glamour shots so this has kinda been my go-to. May need to try to get some at the beach next time.

@@WaveWasters time for some chemical engineering. Can we make a water insoluble and UV stable maple syrup based resin. Beach glamour could go, but the studio once does set a good mood. Maybe a beach glamour at the end of your surfing videos. I've said it before, but always appreciate your surfing/action followup videos to your builds.

oh you're Canadian too, thats so cool! I'm toe dipping into making fin out of resin and your videos are super inspiring! @@WaveWasters

@@valeriebourdeau7343That's awesome! Let me know how it turns out or send me a photo of your finished fin. Always like seeing everyone's projects.

Awesome job Matt. Nice soundtrack as well. 🤙🏻

Thanks🌊🏄

Thanks! I'm hoping to do more finless videos this year

If you make some fins let me know how they turn out!

I've noticed a drop off in the analytics when I do 360s and I wondered if that was why lol.

@@WaveWasters That's hilarious! Teehee...

The catch surf beaters are pretty fun, and easy to find. Id like to shape more of these and others really go down the finless board rabbit hole.

Me too, also hope you find some if your near the ocean

Can't ask for much more. It's rare to get a winter day this glassy.

It's just how thick the parquet flooring was. I have a box of it so wanted to try it out as is. I should bring these out again to surf it's been awhile.

I can think of a few people but I appreciate the Stoke! Have to get you into the finless game next

@@WaveWasters I need a Waster original!

@@lucashildreth5692 I should shape more finless boards and see how far I can take it. I just don't have the resin right now or the money to get more. Until then just grab an old folding door on garbage day and go surf😆

Thanks! I definitely want to make some more with these veneers they come out pretty cool

This board might be my favorite, I need to try to reshape it before it gets too damaged or I loose my templates haha. Bottom channels work really well for how wide this board is.

Once it hits around -22c you really start questioning what your doing doing in the water.

@@WaveWasters still worth it though lol

@@erinh2077 when the waves are good it is, otherwise it's too cold 😆

Glad it was helpful. Just make sure you do a small test before you use it on a project. Some inks and resins don't mix well and will bleed.

Thanks John! The colours came out better than I expected, I have lots more so I'm going to have to make some more with them. They should hold up fine based on my experience with other fins I've made that are more fragile. However if they are surfed into the sand or rocks they could break like most fins.

@@WaveWasters I trust you know what you are doing...you've made enough of these things. Yeah, surfing fins into the beach, sand or rocks isn't really good for anything...lol! Although, I abuse my Wavestorm and haven't had any problems with it...that's part of the reason that I got that type of board...teehee! Carry on with your cool stuff! Cheers, John

@@funafter5081 The wave storms are great for that, kinda wish I had a beater or something similar I could use in the rocks. My finless board has taken too much of a beating from it haha.

Thanks! They have been fun fins to surf

Yeah it sounds like the distance to the sensor is off, maybe try unscrewing the lens a little at a time, after you screw it all the way in. My little zoom lens came with a spacer on the threads with that off I was able to get it to focus. Also try using the zoom to see if different ranges work better than others. On mine there is a little bit when all the way zoomed in that doesn't focus. Have you tried any other lenses?

Same although its too fast at times haha

Not to bad, when this was filmed I think water was still above 40f. Thanks! I'm think I may do some similar videos on old boards since I'm not sure what builds I'll be able to to do next year. Luckily I have two more fins ones filmed.