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I use these: Gamepad 0% stability | 10% abs | 100% counter-steer 0% deadzones | 70% sensitivity throttle/steering 85% brakes Camera: View 1 | FOV 44 | Rotation 100% | Shake 0%

@@proporo1999 alright thanks

If you haven't tried it, a high camera rotation setting might help a lot.

Well tbh some of it might still be the entry level cars. g2 cars have excessively low grip, the 86 is also one of the harder to control cars. The best cars in the mid groups feel a lot better, but it's also true that aor cars have less grip than real ones, sliding is also extra bad.

Rally records?? 🤔 These are time attack leaderboard records in a rally themed arcade game.

Aor cars always remain somewhat fiddly, a high camera rotation is the setting that might make the biggest difference if you haven't tried it. Here's all my relevant settings, preferences vary quite wildly between top players though. 0% stability | 10% abs | 100% counter-steer 0% deadzones | 70% sensitivity throttle/steering 85% brakes Camera: View 1 | FOV 44 | Rotation 100% | Shake 0%

You should be drifting a bit if it’s a gravel or dirt road

In time trial on map selection there's a button prompt that shows the leaderboard. Y for me. However there's only one leaderboard per stage and there's no way to see anyone outside the top10.

The throttle is definitely not fully on or off, I can definitely get the car to accelerate slowly by applying just a bit of throttle. Not sure if partial throttle is useful though, totally possible that gas bound to a button could be faster.

@@proporo1999 there is definitely graduated excelerator with the flippers but what I meant is the way I drive is throttle full open or not.

Thanks! Absolutely mad times you got there. I'll keep working to try and give you another challenge. 😁

@@proporo1999 Aha! That's the Pav I see on top of the leaderboards :-).

@@Bolkiebasher Yep, a total alien. I have my hands full just trying to remain competitive on the one stage.

Handling is fun, reliable and very forgiving. It's early access and still lacking in many parts but it's also not expensive.

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Other than the weird 'never turn, always drift as long as possible' mechanics, the only big thing that comes to mind, is the fact that drifts must be initiated with brakes using pressure sensitive triggers or similar to be competitive. Handbrake or a short 100% brake application through a digital input simply slows you down much more. If it's neither of those then it must be something basic like getting the throttle down a bit earlier, using a bit more space, being in a better gear or something. In which case you just need to keep experimenting. It's been a good long time since I last played rro. The only specifics I really remember about doing hairpins, is that there was lots of drifting involved, and not much braking.

@@proporo1999 cool, so keeping your gear low without bouncing revs and barely touching the break to initiate drifts is the way forward. I am considering Art of Rally after I Plat RRO. Will I find it easier or harder to be competitive there, as in is there a niche mechanic that I have to master to get good or is that more clean driving should get me a good time?

@@oxrevsiexo The only real weird speed mechanic in aor is clutch boosting, as in whenever on a straight you need a couple short clutch taps per gear to get optimal acceleration. As for general difficulty, the driving in aor is a lot harder and somewhat more realistic. The difficulty of leaderboards has extreme variance as there's just so many. The most popular leaderboards can be extremely difficult to climb having just shy of 100k entries, but technically anyone can get top 10s in art of rally as there are still leaderboards around with less than 5 total entries. As for general things you could find distasteful: There's huge cuts and all kinds of edges and banks off the road to use. There are invisible walls that reset you, and aren't really predictable. Sometimes far away from the road, but at other places they can reset you with 2 tires still on the road. Certainly not great for the 1st try experience, getting reset by them is kind of the only way to figure out where they are. Rails and walls are made to be "sticky", this is to prevent wallriding, but brings it's own issues. Anything that should be a light scrape on a rail will instead spin the car into the rail. Aor certainly has it's issues, but to me it's still the best game ever.

Here's the full settings I use: Gamepad 0% stability | 10% abs | 100% counter-steer 0% deadzones | 70% sensitivity throttle/steering 85% brakes Camera: View 1 | FOV 44 | Rotation 100% | Shake 0% Me personally, I absolutely love aor's handling, but it's not for everyone. It's not full-sim perfection, but feels good and challenging and far more realistic than any other indie racing game I've tried. I wouldn't necessarily say the handing has been dumbed down, but there have been changes. One update improved the power curves of the cars a bit, as a result the cars became a little less powerful, but it generally was a good change. Another one made landings a little less "realistic/simulated" but improved their reliability a huge amount, definitely used to be broken. Aor gets a lot of complaints about the handling in reviews and on the forums, the reasons I believe this happens is as follows: -Steering doesn't have any speed sensitivity and such, it also has a maximum steering speed, though I've heard this isn't the case with a wheel(which is bad for other reasons). As a result, to get a tiny amount of steering, you must use short taps, you cannot hold the 1% or so steering that you'd use for a lane change on a controller stick. I've played no other racing games that treat steering exactly like this. -The default settings, at least low camera rotation can make the game very hard to control. -The game has 6 groups: 2, 3 ,4, B, S, A, however g2 and gS cars are effectively broken. g2 cars are absolutely horrid and that's what the game starts you out with so it's what reviews are often based on. g2 basically: Horridly low grip, if grip loss occurs the grip also drops far more than it should, so it's basically a go slow and never, no matter what lose grip for even a second or you're cooked.

@proporo1999 well tks for the detailed informative response, appreciate it.👍 Im sure I'll like it when i get it, just waiting for a fair price, as the Australian dlc isn't included. Reminds me of the different steering in games like circuit superstars and woden gp, i like them, once used to it. It's like u said, u need tap or briefly use steering and let it centre back or it will veer left and right nonstop. I also put rally rush origin on my wishlist, seems nice, but maybe easier game. I love rally sims like dr2, wrc10 etc. Haven't tried ea wrc yet, as it had lot of problems at launch, and maybe still. Idk if u tried it? Peace.

@@jacquesjtheripper5922 Yeah I tried wrc, my two latest vids are early wrs from there, first one with ridiculous cuts and then a second one where I wallride in almost every turn. 😂 I liked the handling and stuff, but I also kinda discovered I'm not really into sims. I just don't like dealing with the setups thing, to me aor feels like the perfect balance of simmy handling but with the simplicity of just pick your car and go. Origins is fun but also very arcady and weird. I imagine the intention was to get drifting to feel more grippy and usable, but what we have, is drifting that makes the car accelerate faster. So origins is like all about doing drifts whenever you can and making them last as long as possible, even when there's a tiny S shape on a road and you could just drive completely straight, you'll be faster if you do 2 little drifts instead. 🤨 I'd also recommend keeping your eye on RXC - Rally Cross Challenge if you haven't. Great handling and stuff, though it hasn't gotten updates in a while and the early access has been going quite a bit longer than planned.

@proporo1999 i know what u mean yeah, smaller games like this are just about gameplay fun. Plus, it's fun in a short time, no need put hours and hours to have fun. Rally rush origin, well i guess ill wait for a low price.. i like a good challenging game, as long as its fair and well done, so rush maybe worth less for me. Did just check rxc, does look really good, good physics with crashes etc too. Tks, ill keep an eye on it, hopefully comes to ps5 at some point. I also have absolute drift on my wishlist, made by same dev as aor.

@@jacquesjtheripper5922 I tried absolute drift but couldn't get into it, the handling+no follow style camera just felt very hard, and I'm not all that into driving without a timer, so didn't feel like trying to figure it out. On the topic of fairness I'll mention that aor also has one huge quirk: The game has a clutch, the cars are very top heavy with their power curve, and there's no clutch wear, so constant short clutch taps can make you accelerate just a little bit faster. Should also mention that the available cuts are huge, and resets are delivered through invisible walls so at the highest level you're often driving right against invisible walls that lose you 10-15s if you touch them.(+5s penalty+full stop+a bit of animation time)

Nah I just use the standard camera with these settings: View 1 | FOV 44 | Rotation 100% | Shake 0%

Yeah, constant clutch taps can make you accelerate a bit faster in this game.

that landing was pretty smooth tho