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Focal Azurys review & comparison to Bathys, Elegia and Hadenys
A sound focused review in which I compare the Azurys to the other Focal closed backs and the Hadenys. Starts with Elegia and other headphones compared in later sections.
0:00 - Introduction & Methodology
2:40 - Elegia comparison
2:50 - Grimes - So Heavy I Fell Through the Earth (Soundstage)
4:40 -Grimes - Tuning/Ramble
6:43 - Grimes - Detail - (Flaw of Azurys)
8:20 - Track conclusion
8.35 - Born to Die - Lana Del Rey (Vocals & Timbre)
11.35 - Videogames - Lana Del Rey (Detail)
13.35 - Dream Wife (Tuning)
15:05 - London Grammar (Vocals & Staging)
17.05 - Air - Moon Safari (Detail)
17:31 - Angels - Massive Attack (Bass)
20:00 - Comfort
20:31 - Elegia vs Azurys Sound Conclusion
22:15 - Airpods Max comparison
23:59 - Celestee vs Azurys
24.58 - Radiance vs Azurys
25:58 - Bathys vs Azurys (Sound)
27:38 - Bathys vs Azurys (Comfort)
28.05 - Bathys vs Azurys Billie Eilish
30:43 - Hadenys vs Azurys (Sound)
35:40 - Wrap up
0:00 - Introduction & Methodology
2:40 - Elegia comparison
2:50 - Grimes - So Heavy I Fell Through the Earth (Soundstage)
4:40 -Grimes - Tuning/Ramble
6:43 - Grimes - Detail - (Flaw of Azurys)
8:20 - Track conclusion
8.35 - Born to Die - Lana Del Rey (Vocals & Timbre)
11.35 - Videogames - Lana Del Rey (Detail)
13.35 - Dream Wife (Tuning)
15:05 - London Grammar (Vocals & Staging)
17.05 - Air - Moon Safari (Detail)
17:31 - Angels - Massive Attack (Bass)
20:00 - Comfort
20:31 - Elegia vs Azurys Sound Conclusion
22:15 - Airpods Max comparison
23:59 - Celestee vs Azurys
24.58 - Radiance vs Azurys
25:58 - Bathys vs Azurys (Sound)
27:38 - Bathys vs Azurys (Comfort)
28.05 - Bathys vs Azurys Billie Eilish
30:43 - Hadenys vs Azurys (Sound)
35:40 - Wrap up
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PS5 lossless audio with the iFi Go Blu
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Bowers & Wilkins PX8 Vs Focal Bathys Sound Review
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A comparison & review of the sound of the Bowers & Wilkins PX8 and Focal Bathys This is a sound only review, things like comfort, build, connectivity, look elsewhere! Plenty of info on that on the web. All done via bluetooth to iPhones, no EQ. Sorry tis a bit of a ramble, hopefully someone finds it useful. Timecodes 0:00 - Intro 1:10 - Methodology 3:08 - Wolf Alice & Rock General 7:52 - Electro...
Thx for that detailed review! More personal question, what is your favourite overall headphones that u own?
Hi are the focal hadenys are they good for watching movies and playing games thankyou
Super detailed review and honest, all that we need as viewer.. you deserve more subs.. keep up mate.. thank you
I got the Px8 - so great! I totally agree with your and your girlfriend's opinion. Thank you both!
Great review. Very useful to hear comparisons across a variety of genres!
i listen to a TON of Aurora, so your review of the PX8 literally made my decision for me. Thank you. Any chance you have any thoughts on PX8 vs PX7 S2E?
Im looking for some to watch movies, not streaming high quality from Bluray, most DTS/Atmos sound. Could it be in this case the Bathys are more suitable, because of "bigger stage" you get with this ones? Does anyone has experiences with this?
Thanks for taking the time to make this review. I think everybody's curious about these two new offerings!
Hello. Have you noticed that after the last update, the app doesn't open, doesn't recognise the headphones and you can't even register them? The app doesn't work and doesn't detect any headphones. Do you have any idea why? Thanks
I thought it was my DAP, what are you pairing the Bathys to?
Soundstage on Hadenys compared to something like HD560S? Are vocals in your head or more in front of you?
How does it compare with the original clear?
Bathys in dac mode is not bad.
Thanks. I got the Azurys as my first high-end ($300+) headphones last week. Been loving them
Azurys vs Thieaudio Monarch Mk3 or other $1000 IEMs? Which one is better for sound quality, excluding the soundstage which is obvious.
The Monarch should beat it easily, afterall its a kilobuck iem, and iem's in general present better value for the money spent. On top of that Monarch has EST drivers which can pick up even the tiny details like breathing texture etc. Both these Focals are just one dynamic driver, not even beryllium coated. Heck I recntly got a beryllium coated iem Sivga Que all metal/wood build for 69$....
Awesome, was searching for a comparison between Azurys, Elegia and Celestee 👍
Such a shame on focal for not putting balanced features don't get me worng it's very easy to drive but current "portable" dac/amps like they literally push 4.4 output 😤
I thought police sirens drove past my cabin in the middle of nowhere hahah. Unexpected coming from AirPods Pro 2.
Can you use balanced cable on this? Is it a 4 pole cable that goes inside the 1 sided cable input? If yes do you get one in the box?
Great video. I liked that you mentioned HD 650. I have the Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro like most beginners start with. I then bought the HD 650 but I was never wowed by them so I haven’t yet discovered something enjoyable. I am thinking to try the Azurys because they are more affordable.
I have the HD650, HD599, DT 770 80ohm, DT 770 Pro X, K371, MX50, PX7 and Momentum 4. Of all these I prefer the sound of 2: HD599 and DT770 80ohm (which I had them custom mod detachable cable). I'm waiting for the Azurys to show up on Amazon to use my gift card, I'm very excited about those.
I have both the Elegias and the Radiance, and yes the Radiance is a lot more engaging and well tuned that the elegias, but what I have done to make the elegias a little bit more engaging is that I changed the pads to Dekoni elite sheepskins and I also use the earmen colibri and it has a base boost option and that seems to alleviate some if not most of the issues in the sound department with the elegias, specially regarding the base, it hits hard and it's well extended and brings it a little closer to the radiance, while still maintaining an airy and spacious presentation. I never had the issue of metalic timber that people complain a lot about focal headphones and I also have the clears, so that hasn't been much of an issue for me and tho I appreciate a huge sound stage in headphones, it's not a big priority for me or is not going to detract from the experience that much, I'm more interesting in separation, imaging and holography than sound stage size when it comes to technicalities, so focal headphones fit the bill perfectly for me and the punch and raw visceral experience that they bring to the table is still something that I only get with them.
So you'd recommend the dekoni sheepskin for the Elegias then? Do they really make that much difference? Very tempted to get some for mine
@7quidstudio you should definitely get them. I've had the Elegja and the Dekoni pads for a few years and it's a great combo. Not quite as comfortable as the stock pads but the EQ shift they add is worth it.
What version (reference no.) of *Dekoni Elite Sheepskin* pads are you referring to?
I have Elegias and was looking at these two new headphones so this comparison was really helpful. Doesn’t sound like they are different/better enough to spend the money, but kudos to Focal for yet another fantastic headphone. BTW, have you tried leather pads on your Elegia? I found that filled out the bass for me.
I did yes, it definitely helps. If you have Elegia then you're set at the desk, I'd say these are more if you want to take focal closed back sound on the go and still have a superb experience that trades blows with Elegia.
I really didn't like the Azurys at all. Nice sound detail and resolution but they're claustrophobic and also mid centric. Returned them and bought a used Elegia, and it's everything I was looking for. They're amazing
Please compare Hadenys and Clear MG Pro (I noticed that you own them), I will be grateful thanks.
Wow that was very thorough. Thanks for sharing.
I bought the Celestee and they hurt my ears, Just to bright to me so sent them back, Took a chance on the Bathys and loved them, I see the Azurys and took a punt on them with my bad experience of the Celestee in mind and i was totally surprised at how amazing they are and with a Quidelix 5K even more so, I now have the Hadenys coming as my first ever open backs and the Bathys are on ebay, I hate Focal because they more often than not knock it out of the park which then hurts my bank account 😂
Really interesting to hear! I think Focal have finally nailed a mid tier closed back.
Great review, loved the attention to detail and the comparisons between different Focals.
Yeah the Elear I had back in the day were a little metallic. Preferred them over the Z7 and Nighthawks I had at the time.
I like to EQ my headphones to pull the best out of them. So for me, between the Azurys and the Elegia, I'd go for the Elegia since I can get the bigger stage and fix the timbre with some EQing.
Nice job. You are very well spoken. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
That's laughable.
Great video! Saw your post on Head-fi. 👍 Just ordered the Azyrus today. Still looking for a pair of Radiance in good condition, but these will hopefully scratch the itch for now. 🙂
let us know how you find em!
So how is the Azurys?
@@Icecold_ArtI got them the day after and have used them basically every day since I first put them on. I needed a portable and these are absolutely perfect. Definitely give them a try. 🙂
@@DavidQvist i currently rock a quite old at this point Bang&Olufsen H6 gen 2 , and I always seem to get back to them for the looks, sound and lightweight. I think Azurys might be that next „ I always dome baxk to it „ headphone, Have a strong feeling that will be the case
@@Icecold_Art I have to say I think your B&Os have the Focals beat in the looks department. The newer Focals are quite a bit over designed in my book, but it's not at all to point that it bothers me. They look fine, I think, and they are really small and won't look weird on your head when outside.
Hi Thanks for Doing this Review .. I am watching with My LG V60 .. I went to a shop to try some headphones ... They didn't have Elegia but they had Clear MG and I tried and liked it .. Just wondering how different will Elegia be compare to Clear MG please ? Elegia is Much More Cheaper online and I really want to buy it just that not sure if it will sound as good .. Elegia is AUD329 at the moment .. Should I just Blind buy it pls? Thanks J
For 329 AUD it's a superb price. Elegia are solid, with great detail and some solid technicalities. You'll be happy if you liked the Clear - they're not as good, but that goes without saying.
@@engineeringart6345 Thank You I should go ahead and buy if Elegia is 50 - 70% as good as Clear MG 😅 Oh just wondering have you heard of Soundcore X600 Speakers before? Have u try one or two yet? Getting two of them is also my options .. Thanks
@@joewinglovemusic Honestly I think Elegia is bang in the middle of that range, 60% of a Clear for me at least :). For EDM it gets to 70-80%, it's great there. Falls a bit short for vocals or natural instruments.
I see .. Sorry do you mean Elegia is good for Electric Dance Music please? I do listen to Cantonese Pop as well as enjoy very much Musical , Pop, Hits from the 60s to Current Top 40 Music as well as Folk Songs, The Carpenters, Air Supply, ABBA, Queen, John Farnham, Missy Higgins, Vanessa Amorosi , Sneaky Sound System etc .. do u know these Artists? Will they sound good on Elegia please? Thanks
@@engineeringart6345 Just Ordered ..
I really want to like the azurys but I just can't do the baby blue colorway haha
thanks!
Who has a more natural timbre - hadeniz or azaris? and who has better bass and who has mid range?
Hadenys is a very similarly tuned headphone that does everything better in a technical sense. It's more detailed, sounds more natural and has a more spacious presentation. Timbre is slightly better on Hadenys. As for bass quantity, see the FR for yourself, closed backs do have an advantage in quantity, but again, Hadenys is going to give a slightly better resolved and textured bass.
@@engineeringart6345 if you honestly make cool reviews, you know how to highlight the main thing! If you are looking for a player with a natural tone hibi rs6!
What an amazing review!
I fell in love with the Bathys. I highly recommend testing them live. Fully agree on your opinion
Refreshing to see a review that doesn't base everything on how it tracks the frickin Harman curve.
Whats the durability like overtime with the px8? Any quality issues?
My god maaaan you got me with that explanation. New subscriber here. 🙋🏻♂️ Would you please help me? Which one is louder Bathys or PX8? Greetings!
Wow so biased. No eq no dac no nothing. The bathy was designed for those features and not to use them is to handicap the headphones. To suggest that the sound of the bathy is a certain way without using them as designed isn't fair and hardly accurate. I actually have used both and I say that without eq of either set of headphones leaves both wanting in various categories of sound but luckily the headphones have the ability to be eq. Finally the time and effort to make this video is to be valued. Great video eventhough I can't agree with the methods that you used in making the comparison of these headphones.
Biased? I like both brands, but don't feel a bias either way. If anything I'm probs Focal biased as I own so much of their gear, but the conclusion is somewhat in B&W favour. I agree with you, the review could be more complete, but I specifically say this is for bluetooth out of the box performance which many users will default to. There's an odd dip in Bathys upper mids but other than that I don'see the need to EQ them. Wired in with a DAC, they get a lot better, but again, these are bluetooth headphones we're reviewing and for me that's the feature I want to emphasise. I understand a more complete and superior review would have included a section purely devoted to wired listening where the Bathys elevate a fair bit, and also a comparison of the various codecs on offer (AAC vs Aptx HD vs Aptx) but I only have so much time and wanted to give a general idea.
@engineeringart6345 okay I will concur with you about the use case that you are testing for. Well said. Thank you for the reply.
can i connect this headset directly to the ps5 with the GO blu by iFi to the usb-c port to increase the quality and have lossless audio?
I connect my Focal headphones directly to the Go blu > Go blu to PS5 by USB and its lossless
@@engineeringart6345 and connecting the Audeze Maxwell via 3.5 and the GO blu by iFi works as well and gives you lossless sound?
I own both . I listen to them via usc-c and both are amazing. I can’t tell whoop me is better bet they sound different . Focal wide stage sound is clean and clear but the px8 in your face sound is a thing of beauty. Both are amazing
Couldn't agree more, both fantastic headphones. I do think the new Focal Azurys is the ultimate portable solution now, for those who can stand wired and no ANC.
I own both, this is the first review that fully expresses my opinions. Thank you for your unbiased comments.
I know this is an older video, but regarding that B&W PX8 you got, I wanted to add that if you turn them on and THEN connect through the USB-C cable it should receive lossless audio as well, givind that in order for them to work they would need to be in active (USB-C) mode. They don’t work in passive (cause they don’t have a 3.5mm jack) analog mode. And the beauty is, because they’d use the built in circuitry, there would be no need for external gear (DAC of any kind), because the audio processing would happen on the headset itself! In theory, it should sound amazing! Can you verify if that’s true? I’d really appreciate a response from you! Thank you for your time!
Where is the part about Rap, did i miss it?
Just picked the dac up after watching this video! What’s your favorite mix setting? I’m on Bass/Space. Do you enable 3D audio in PS5 at all? Thanks!
I returned my PX8 for the SoundCore Q45 as the sound and NC was better. PX8 has a very slightly better sound stage but i choose sound quality over the sound stage
best review of these yet - thanks ! just got the PX8 on specail for 200 bucks off
Thx for this video. There are some nice discounts on the PX8 at the moment. I heard that there is a hudge quality difference using the Dac mode on the Focals, I also saw that using the Focal app you can make a personnalised sound adjustement called "Mimi". Anyway all very exciting. You personal experience is actually very interesting. Thx again. :)
QUDELIX-5K does work, JDS labs, schiit Hei Not sure why thequdelix didnt work for you but it worked for me
Excellent review! I am not in the market for either headphone, but found your review fascinating none the less.