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I just got this game and I can't tell you how useful it is to have for taking on patrols.

My main builds usually take Gas for Bugs, Stun for Bots, and Thermite for my Arc Thrower builds to more quickly take out Heavies instead of waiting for them to fall to the Arc Thrower. Frags are cool on Bugs especially with the +2 to Grenades from Engineer Armor, but I don't really gain a lot from picking a Secondary weapon other than the Grenade Pistol.

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The trick with HE grenades is to cook them for 2ish seconds and then throwing it above a group of devastators. Whipped.

I love the frag. Big blast radius. I frequently kill 10bugs.

The niche of the throwable knives Vito is that you get 20 pockets STUNS (but these stuns do a lot of damage and one shot warriors in the head). There was times where i could 1v3 STALKERS!! Each knive landing has stopping power and locks the ennemy in place for a second. Since your throwing speed is faster than that you can just prevent the Stalker or multiple of them from attacking you even better than some of the other stagger weapons do. Throwing Knives are also excellent to cover for your light pen weapons like Tenderizer or even the Stalwart Stratagem, as Throwing Knives are also really good at killing Hive guards and Brood/Alpha Commanders in a meaningful time (just aim at the head), all the while staggering them. You can also 2-3 tap Bile Spewers in the Head although its only useful when they follow you instead of vomiting and when there's only one or two. Ammo backpack has great synergy with it as each refill gives you back all 20 Knives! (You guessed it, you just have 100 Knives on yourself) My big issue with Knives tho apart from the not-so-straight and slow speed of the Knives when traveling in the air, is that you can't melee attack with them. You actually have to switch back to any weapon if you wanna hit an ennemy with your melee attack. Which is weird. Usually Helldivers hit their ennemies in the face with the Stock of their Assault Rifles, but why they wouldn't wanna hit the dam thing with the KNIFE they have in their hand is mind boggling. ARROWHEAD PLS FIX. But besides that its pretty good if you preserve them for individual or small packed Medium sized/penetration ennemies A.K.A Hive Guards, Brood/Alpha Commanders and Stalkers. Also i recommend having an explosive weapon or some 380 for bugholes as you lose the utility that the majority of grenades have. But overall if you play fast objectives and you dont really wanna kill the bugs rather stagger and push 20 of them away from you at the cost of your 4 grenades (and if you use weapon/stratagem that can deal with bugholes) then and only then the Knives are still deserving of at least B tier IMO. Just consider them as the only fast "throwable" in the game that grants you immediate stagger, and with 20 uses per refill. Or when you pop an Alpha COmmander's head and you wanna prevent it from hitting you, just throw one! Now lemme know what you think of it and try to make it work better than going Rambo with them! If you switch around your tools enough and use them efficiently they still come in clutch a lot! Just don't waste Knives or over-extend your presence against even a decently low number of ennemies. Works really good with: Stalwart, Crossbow, Tenderizer, Reprimend, Knight, Eruptor, Crisper, Halt, Redeemer, and the flamethrowers. Pin comment to spread awareness! (if you could be so kind) I suffered a lot trying out Knives at the start and now reap the rewards when using them right. TRY THEM OUT DUDES!

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Honestly with the throwing knifes I have absolutely no incentive to use them, maybe if you could melee with them and they had a better damage maybe they'd be worth it because when stuff like gas or incendiary grenades exist what's the point

Love my impact grenades and thermite, but am now keen to try out the gas grenades for certain scenarios - cheers for the vid!

love the gas grandes with heavey anti gas armor for the 100% imunity to gas damges. and then just have a suplie backpack for more gas greades. (i know bad english)

I’d argue gas grenades should be above the fire based options. They have a more consistent and long lasting lingering AOE, they kill and mess up chaft bugs/bots almost just about as easily as fire does. But they have the side utility of being useful on a wider selection of enemies as unlike how fire based grenades do very little to medium sized threats nor slow down hordes, gas grenades can stall out a group to make them vulnerable to follow up horde clear. And this includes medium threats so brood commanders, hive guards, bile spewers, they all get confused and stalled by the gas as well as potentially friendly firing each other. Even if you don’t follow up on the gas grenade’s ability to stall, that ability allows it to force enemies to stay in its cloud for longer and keep them from pursuing at the very least. Along with killing almost all of the chaft.

Something I think people really sleep on with the thermite is that it can destroy bot fabricators from any angle, not just the vents. It's been a lifesaver for outpost raids. You can just toss it onto the back of one and it'll be gone in about 6 seconds.

Good to see my one and only frag grenade is still going strong (i have not used any other grenade since launch)

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Honestly the throwing knives could be reduced back to their original number of 8 (maybe 10 to make it a nice number), but make them do way more damage specifically against weak points but very reduced damage against non-break points (I wanna be able to knife a Hulk in the eye and one-shot it, but it should be useless if you hit anywhere else). I think that would at least make them fun and satisfying to use. As if right now... other than just pure fun or meme factor they simply aren't worth taking over literally anything else. Also if you have the throwing knives as your throwable it should change and boost your melee ability by allowing you to actively use the knife for melee attacks, which should have been a thing right from the start (Seriously Arrowhead, why would you give us a Warbond that not only introduces an armor perk that increases melee damage _and_ give us a knife... and yet not make the very basic 2+2 calculation and allow the knife to be used as a boosted melee? This is like game design 101)

The thermite grenade does 2000 damage

You mean the DSS does exactly what they said it would?? Homie I think its time u take a break from the game for a bit

I do agree that it's pretty disapointing to have "only" this for the DSS, for sure, but lower your expectations my man. We're talking about a pretty small dev company with limited ressources and a lot of pressure from Sony. This is NOT some kind of Fortnite or COD game.

Im my opnion, at least all of the effects should be active,*at least*

Jesus christ man. So I watched the whole thing. You are talking about this like it's some MMORPG. It's actually a bit worrying... This is a casual shooter. Super Helldive is not easy, and you are not supposed to constantly have shit to grind. You don't feel like theres a reason to play because you are capped on everything and you find it easy? Just take a break and come back when something that interests you comes out. Or don't if it doesnt. You are not paying a subscription, you are not competing agaisnt other players in pvp . Like, do some challenges if you feel like you want to play the game and make it super hard on yourself, but don't try and make it seem as if this is not a casual shooter game

We'll never see the illuminates at this rate

Max level whining as well i see.

If you’ve been playing since day 1 with no substantial break, you need to take a break or scale back to playing one night per week. Idk how old you are, but if you’re a fortnite zoomer I guess I’ll have to be the one to break this bubble for you; there is NO studio on earth other than Epic and Activision that can or will pump out the level of content you’re expecting without an outright expansion price tag. I played 200 hours earlier this year, had my fill, went and played Baldur’s Gate 3, Valheim and Hunt Showdown for 8 months and just came back to Helldivers 2 and I’m perfectly content with the new content. Take a break. Substantial content drops and rollouts take about a year. Next spring if we’re still about the same you’ll have a point. Otherwise a steady stream of new warbonds is about what we should expect and is what they’ve been doing.

u think u have everything at level 40? are u drunk?

So as a guy who comes from this community style of games i think this game type just isnt your game style. The idea of these types of games is a "i work for the good of the team im in". Such games of this type of style include games like War of Rights and Foxhole where you work as a team and win as a team. If you wanna feel like you ramboed and took over a planet on your own, go play COD or battlefield cause this isnt the game for you. If you want your super easy "i feel so good getting 50 kills and carrying the team to victory" then thats cod thats battlefield, thats sea of thieves, thats halo, go play your garden variety shooter thats been typecasted over hundreds of variations of time, cause this game doesnt seem like its it for you. The "feel good" is grinding out hours to days just to get a planet, the enjoyment of carrying youe crew through a set of missions, the fun of making fun and meaningful moments with your friends, if this aint how you wanna feel, then like i said, find another game.

Constitution is gigatier 🗿

complain complain complain

I always tried to reason with the developers decisions with the game but this was seriously disappointing, I feel like a fast and easy way to fix the issue would be making the weapons additional stratagems and having fast cooldowns. I'm hoping the DSS will have more and better features being added in the upcoming future.

I wouldn’t call Adjudicator’s 30 round magazine a great positive. It’s the lowest amount currently compared to any other AR. Accuracy is needed against Automatons and Adjudicator is good upto medium range, while you could use Tenderizer for much longer distances. I very much enjoy using AR’s but I have still strong feeling that they are lacking compared to” fun weaponds” and don’t belong in S-tier.

Add the start of game, the content pace actually fell good, we were getting new enemies, new mission at a decent rate. Why so much time to have a re-skin version of the traitor barrage escapes me. One can only hope they will give us something big the next week. I feel the DSS 'buff' would be better if they just give us another strategem slot, massive cooldown reductions, mech stack and such.... The DSS feels like such a troll by AH, that I would have preferred the DSS to launch incendiary mines rather than barrages, at least I could have a good laugh

devs said the reprimand bullet deviation was a bug and should be getting fixed soon

you’d rate the carbine an A tier for bugs?? am i using it wrong because every time i’ve used it, its been painfully mid. i always catch myself thinking why take the carbine when i could take the reprimand, lib penetrator, adjudicator, tenderizer, etc

As an advice from someone who likes seeing more of this game and also for you if you plan on making more content in next videos try to just show the weapon and the letter tier as you talk, then in the end show the full tier that way you can see the gameplay or show examples of you using your favorites. Anyway great work, great arguments like.

Imo you sold the Eruptor a bit short. While it is overshadowed by the crossbow, there are many cases where it's better. It has more damage, greater explosive radius, greater projectile velocity and less drop.

Never let bro cook again 😭🙏

With this build how do you take out bug holes? I might swap the main for Eruptor, what do you think?

My good sir I've gotten 18 kills with one shot from the eruptor with its "shitty" shrapnel lol. But honestly it was an extremely lucky shot

Adjudicator is also not bullpup

Nice tier list, finally something i can agree on

When you do tier lists you should keep in mind when putting down a gun because a paid/grind weapon exists and do a rating based on what it feels like if you don't own a particular warbond gun yet as well not sure if I'm articulating this right but I hope what I said makes sense especially for new comers to the game who only have the mobilize warbond

Very good tier list. I run halt, engineering armor, laser cannon, laser drone, orbital laser, and 110 rockets. I don't use the rover for DPS really, I use it more for enemy detection so I can just snap on to whatever it's targeting and stun it right away. It's great for locking down groups of devastators. If my teammates bring cookout, nothing can fight back because they're just being stun locked and staggered. Also, the utility of being able to take out a lot of objectives like mortar or anti air emplacements and gunships while your rr and spear mains camp the resupply means they can hard focus heavies without fear of getting flinched. We also just take high ground and proc bot drops from across the map by taking out fabricators or cannon turrets before rushing objectives. Also, sometimes I prefer using orbital napalm over 380 or 120 for clearing out bases because after all the medium and chaff gets cleared it's just the handful of heavies and we can waltz in and blow up fabricators easily.

Constitution needs to be a m1 garand with bayonet

Bro you should make the background of the tier list with less opacity so you can see the gameplay that would be dope. Also nice tier list

Is this the tenth level of difficulty?

It was always great, they just made it easier for the normies.

this tierlist makes no sense. you define B as average, yet only 5 weapons are B or below. meanwhile "A-" already has 6 weapons. do you even know what average means? if every weapon is above average, that also increase the average.

I got banned for calling the devs incompetent

Adjudicator is GOD tier, i feel bad starting a mission without it lmao

The dagger doesnt get enough credit. I literally use it like a primary against automatons since there isnt a range damage drop off, and whip out the purifier for heavy devastators or bigger groups

Bushwhacker should be S tier. It can stagger berserkers, it can stagger brood commanders, it can stagger goddamn stalkers. And not only stagger but it has enough kick to kill them with a single headshot. This is huge. Its waaaay better than verdict which is featureless last resort weapon only to be used if both your primary and support weapon unviable at the moment..