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I'm a mostly Anti-Social Ghost who makes Novels and Webcomics on Webtoons and Tapas.
VS Debate Headache : Bill Cipher
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The Absurd Scaling of : Dragon Ball GT
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Creating a Team to defeat Made in Heaven
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Why I hate the Zamasu Arc in Dragon Ball Super
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In this video, I'll dicsuss why there aren't more Xenoverse-Style Video Games, what series I think work well with the concept, and why there may not be many of these types of Games
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(BRAWL) Episode 2 : Simian Superiority
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(BRAWL) Episode 2 : Simian Superiority
I'm very sorry about the Audio Quality
dude this is youtube 2024 how dare you read from a power point wtf
And show it?! Also, the quality of the video and audio… 😅🙈
Eh, I just do what I can with what I have access to lol The quality can definitely stand to be improved.
@@driveghost1996Never let them get you down, the powerpoint format is based.
The manga is slightly better, however this arc has no salvation.
gg for the ppt
Okay, great arguments, but my question is this... what happens if Goku and Vegeta achieve Super Saiyan Blue 2... master it, then Goku stacks Kaioken on top... Wouldn't that immediately make achieving SSB2 worth the effort of learning? Not even going to argue SSB3... SSJ3 is just a pit of despair. Of course that would leave Vegeta with option of going SSB2 Evolved... So the powerstack is crazy high now. And we all know they both mastered SSJ2, so its not to far a thought that they'd master SSB2 and the energy consumption. That's why I think it'd be worth the training after all. They achieve better forms due to storyline but with a little extra time, even if they put in the effort to go SSB2 and maybe SSB3, eventually the road would still lead to Ultra Ego and MUI. I mean the whole point is to take it even higher in the first place. Seems like a wasted opportunity to pass over but also a wise course. I mean its just pure foolishness to start stacking Saiyan forms on SSG.
Technically yeah he could, they just didn't have time, and both Ultra Ego and Ultra Instinct are just baseline stronger than SSB3 would've been, plus they have additional abilities on top of it. Considering how Goku tends to train smarter not harder, he probably would've just opted for Ultra Instinct anyway.
I think Josuke is a good choise, but you would need extra healers like Anasui and/or Giorno to stop Pucci from just focus on him since Josuke can heal everyone but himself. Echoes Act 3 could work, but it depends on if you belive that Time Acceleration would increase the potency of his 3 Freeze due to MiH speeding time due to it's ties whit Gravity and Fate, if it works The Hand could erase the spaxe betweet Pucci and Koichi until he's in range of 3 Freeze. As for one shoters, any time based Stand, Purple Haze, Rolling Stones (big if), or Wonder of U should do the trick. Other options could be D4C Love Train to bounce back any insta-kill attack or GER to reverse the insta-kills and lock Pucci down for a one shot.
I tried to avoid any insta-kill ones like Purple Haze, GER, and Wonder of U. Just a personal restriction to make it a bit more interesting. And yeah they'd need more healers than just Josuke, I just chose him because he's arguably the best one when it comes to healing others
Great video. I think Josuke is a very clever option not just because of his healing, but also because I think he would be able to make Pucci go back to C-moon or Whitesnake, making it an easy win for stands like the world, king crimson or cream.
Considering the Stand is completely changed, I doubt Josuke can revert it After all it's based on "fixing", and I don't think you could consider C-Moon or Made in Heaven "Broken"
@@driveghost1996 Not only fixing, remember he turned the spaghetti into the raw components. It's more like a reverse time for an object. A very similar power is Orihime's Shun shun rika.
@@Balsa-m8h The ingredients weren't completely changed from their original state. C-Moon and especially MAde in Heaven are evolved Stands that have been completely changed. And as Stands are part of a person's being, thinking he could do that to a Stand would imply he could, for example, "Fix" a Human back to being a baby. His power doesn't work like that. If it did he would've used it on Kira to remove Bites the Dust.
One thing I notice talk about is how Super Buu's ki was rising before he became Kid Buu, but people regularly ignore that Buff Buu was an absorption, and that we see Kid Buu spit out Fat Buu upon recognizing he was being hindered. And having his default state basically be a roided out SS Trunks seems like it would be one hell of a nerf before they even talk about how he shrunk. Too bad Goku was trying to hard to look cool against Kid Buu, lol But considering the Buu Era of the anime (Apparently reviving can make you stronger), manga (Vegeta & the Old Kai start weirdly glazing Kid Buu and Goku for the final fight, but both Gohan & Goku had their energy sensed across the universe) and movies (Dragon Fist puts Goku in a tier the boys cannot reach implying his techniques lets him close the gap/surpass them), Gotenks Gohan & Goku....without leaning too hard on numerical values but statements should be in the same ballpark strangely enough
to put this in perspective: SS3 Goku thinks Fat Buu is easy and by proxy Evil & Good Buu upon splitting, but lied about his ability to beat Fat Buu and by proxy how SS Gotenks compares to him SS3 Goku doesn't want to fight Super Buu but that's explicitly inside Super Buu's body and being tiny, but does think Buuicolo is nothing to Ultimate Gohan and suggests the Dance SS3 Goku thinks he can take on Kid Buu but learns how extraordinary Kid Buu's regen is to the point he isn't losing energy compared to himself and curses himself and his body. Granted Buff Buu gave him a big scare prior to shrinking down SS3 Goku knows that he must fuse against Buutenks & Buuhan and doesn't even bother entertaining the thought of a 1v1, despite the fact Saiyans get stronger as they fight -- aka Goku considers fusion for 3 out of 4 of the main forms he met, and was far slower to considering it against Kid Buu whereas the context against regular Super Buu may make it weird, if Kid Buu is stronger than regular Super Buu there wouldn't be any "real issue" other than how Ultimate Gohan (conceptually) should compare to SS3 Goku, as Goku still failed to beat a Buu genuinely within the SS3 ballpark on his own... if its any other form of Super Buu it starts to get real contentious.
last comment here, but if we go with the ideal that Kid Buu is stronger than Super Buu, then Super Buu's declaration of becoming the strongest majin AFTER absorbing Gotenks and Gohan respectively is the BIGGEST self report in Dragon Ball History lmao
It's still funny to think how Base RoF Gohan, who should be weaker than Base Z Sword/Goku Gi Gohan (aka no Ultimate Form; but could questionably beat Fat Buu in SS2 according to Goku) due to a lack of training is stronger than Piccolo. The same Piccolo that had 11 to 12 years since Cell, after seemingly spooking Trunks with how strong he became despite having superiority over Semi-Perfect Cell and saw a glimpse of Perfect Cell's power needs to be saved by the rusty Gohan that can't even go SS2. Only...for Piccolo to from hardly scaling to Frost in any capacity (if he was fresh) to doing team combos with Ultimate Gohan in the Anime's Tournament of Power & Manga's Moro Arc. It really makes me wonder what Piccolo was doing for those hundreds of years in DBO to still not comfortably scale over Buu and strictly get beat by some guy stronger than a guy that was stronger than Freeza XD
Dbz downplayers can't comprehend how strong they are in comparison to their favorite characters
Funny to imagine the Dragon Ball series with the weakest scaling still has someone blowing up the entire Moon lol
I liked goku black chaos , and vegito and the fusion and berrus using haki the rest mid
I know it was just a typo, but I'm now imagining Beerus using Haki from One piece, and it's honestly kinda cool in my head
I love the arc, other than ending and how much of a bish trunks is, even the writers knew he was too soft and wrote the kid version to pep talk him
This arc coulda been so much better, it had great potential, the problem is we shouldn’t have even had ssjb yet. goku and vegeta should have only been using god up to this arc. then it woulda been so much more memorable if when Goku black was telling Goku about how he offed his family, he had a rage and then transforms into ssjb there. it woulda made the blue transformation less hated probably, god woulda had more time in the series, and then we would have a memorable transformation from this ark.
I don't agree with the Super Saiyan Blue point. Considering they had been training with an Angel for the sole purpose of achieving Super Saiyan Blue, and they were following the Movies, it wouldn't make sense for them to still be at Super Saiyan God at this point.
I hate the whole goku black arc and zamasu arc due to the bad ending with zeno earsing everything as well as how the arcs were excuted
I loved the arc from start to end
I'm glad you could enjoy it. Just that for me that Bad stuff outweighed the good
Yeah they did the arc way better in the manga see I like dragon ball super manga way better
The Jump Force was definitely the biggest flop from this style games, since the combat, story, and original characters were kinda bad (but it was amazing as a cosplay game). The final nail to the coffin was the implementation of virtual currency as microtransactions. When it comes to Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 this game is probably one of its kind that flourished due to huge fandom, popularity of Dragon Ball Super anime, good fight mechanics, and kinda simple progressive system with infinite amount of possible builds (another similar game is probably GTA V that has survived even longer). I spend over 2100 hours in this game, and there are still new things that you can do in this game.Now the franchise that could benefit from creating this kind of game is definitely One Piece. PS. We also got Dragon Ball The Breakers that takes place in the same universe as Dragon Ball Xenvoerse games.
Vegito was never trying against buuhan and could've probably gone ssj3 if he wanted so i don't think it is a stretch to assume that Vegito is probably universal
Considering the first villain that we get who even claims to have the power to destroy the universe is OMEGA SHENRON Yes I do think it's a stretch that SSJ3 Vegito could. The DBZ Universe is leagues bigger than a Galaxy, which is the biggest canon feat for a Z Character
@@driveghost1996 i agree theres no way z vegito is universal
One annoying part about xenoverse games and this is just a pet peeve if mine is the saiyan custom character don't have tails which i find annoying
I'd say the main reason we don't get these is because of how lucrative Gacha mobile games are as an alternative. It kinda scratches the same itch. They're low risk with massive potential reward, compared to a full on game. It really sucks tho, because I feel like most animes work better as free roam adventures rather than linear fighting games. Also unsolicited feedback, when you're giving a presentation digitally you don't need so many words on the screen. Situation 1): People will ignore the text and only listen to your speech. Situation 2): people will ignore your speech and just focus on the text. Either way it leads to an awkward/unprofessional feeling. I'd recommend having separate notes that you don't show to the audience rather than relying on your slides.
Bandai hates money and the fighting game community is ungodly autistic if a game isnt made for esport shit
Naruto Shinobi Strikers is a successful xenoverse style game
Huh, I didn't know that. Cool
It's a very shitty version of a xenoverse game. it being focused on pvp makes it shit.
@@xxfataliteaxx4344 couldn't agree more I like shinobi strikers, but it's nowhere close to xenoverse in PVE.
if you wanted to make a game that compares to sparking zero, bo6 or even Tekken8 these days you need good mechanics, balance moves and balance mechanics to the noob and pro sides to keep both playing and potentially starting world tournaments. The Naruto games tried this but failed to maintain a good players base because of transactions and just having to buy op moves but had a good idea of a anime game if they didn't money grab they would've made it somewhere
I don't think you know what you're talking about ss was very successful and is still successful
To analyze a hypothetical battle between Omni-Man from Invincible and Bardock from Dragon Ball Z, we need to consider their respective abilities, strengths, and weaknesses. "Omni-Man" Omni-Man, also known as Nolan Grayson, is a Viltrumite with immense power and abilities: *Strengths:* - Superhuman strength, speed, and durability - Flight - Near-immortality and rapid healing - Vast combat experience - Ruthless and strategic fighter *Weaknesses:* - Can be emotionally conflicted, especially regarding family - Vulnerable to extreme force and certain sound frequencies Omni-Man has demonstrated the ability to destroy entire civilizations single-handedly and has fought against powerful superheroes like the Guardians of the Globe. "Bardock " Bardock, Goku's father, is a Saiyan warrior with impressive abilities: *Strengths:* - Superhuman strength, speed, and durability - Flight and ki manipulation - Ability to sense energy - Great Ape transformation (with a full moon) - Combat experience and tactical thinking - Precognitive abilities (in some versions of his story) *Weaknesses:* - Limited by his power level compared to later Dragon Ball characters - Vulnerable to energy-based attacks Bardock has shown the ability to fight against Frieza's elite forces and even confront Frieza himself, albeit unsuccessfully. "Analysis" Both characters are incredibly powerful within their respective universes. However, there are some key differences to consider: 1. *Power scaling:* The Dragon Ball universe generally operates on a higher power scale than the Invincible universe. Characters in Dragon Ball can destroy planets with relative ease, which is not as common in Invincible. 2. *Combat experience:* Both have extensive battle experience, but Omni-Man's longevity gives him an edge in terms of years of combat. 3. *Abilities:* Bardock's ki manipulation and energy-based attacks provide him with ranged options that Omni-Man lacks. 4. *Durability:* Both characters have shown incredible durability, but Omni-Man's Viltrumite physiology might give him a slight edge in this area. 5. *Transformation:* Bardock's Great Ape form could potentially tip the scales in his favor, but it requires specific conditions (a full moon) to activate. "Conclusion" While both characters are formidable fighters, the higher power scaling of the Dragon Ball universe gives Bardock an advantage. His ability to manipulate ki and use energy-based attacks provides him with a greater variety of offensive options compared to Omni-Man's primarily physical fighting style. However, Omni-Man's superior experience and potentially greater durability could allow him to withstand Bardock's attacks and potentially outlast him in a prolonged battle. Ultimately, the victor would likely be Bardock due to his energy manipulation abilities and the overall higher power levels in the Dragon Ball universe. However, it would be an extremely close and destructive battle, with Omni-Man putting up a significant fight before potentially being overwhelmed by Bardock's energy-based attacks.
Bardock would destroy omni man sorry don t care who gets upset by that fact. But most the dbz characters are planet destoryers. Literally superman & hulk are the only super heroes i seen put up a good fight against a dbz character
Well that last part is pretty inaccurate. There are tons of Comic Book characters from DC and Marvel who could beat even Dragon Ball Super Characters, and even one from Invincible that has pretty high scaling.
Bardock is apparently 3x faster then Omniman, up to trillions times faster. How could Omniman even get 1 punch on him?
Yeah they kinda just brushed aside the massive gap in speed lol
First extra, King Cold. Excluding Cooler is false, Cooler is canon to the anime. He appears in GT, and as confirmed by Toriyama and several guidebooks, the manga and anime have converged at several points (Dai Kaio, Gregory, Otherworld, Pikkon, Icarus and many more) 2. Cold didn't transform because of one thing that no character in fiction can escape: the plot. There was no narrative or logical reason for Cold to transform and have an actual fight with Trunks, because the focus of the arc is Trunks and the androids, the promotional art features Trunks and the Super Saiyan legend, the toys feature Trunks and on and on. Furthermore, Cold wouldn't have done anything against Trunks, so wasting pencil lead to animate and design a whole entire form for no reason makes WHAT type of sense to you? Just because he didn't evidently doesn't mean he can't, it just doesn't matter. Second extra, and missed info, Fusion. 1. Vegito doesn't "easily low diff Buuhan. It's evident that he actually needed to go SSJ to stop Buu's rage boost from destroying U7. Vegito's full power Super Saiyan and Buuhan's rage kiai are closer than you think. 2. KIng Piccolo could most def wipe out a planet. He's not going to do so as easily as King Vegeta, but charging a planetary ki wave (while he's already above moon level characters) takes no more than a minute. Just because the book doesn't hold your hand through the scaling, (i.e showing you that Piccolo can destroy a planet) doesn't mean that there aren't things such as potential. 3. Cell being "satellite galaxy." Just no. The citizens of Namek state that Cell would destroy the universe (infinite in size) and Android 16 calculated the same thing. Cell saying "solar system" simply means the macrocosm, 3 infinitely sized universes, galaxies and the planets the Kai's live on as a "solar system." Evidently, galactic feats were last exersiced by base Broly, who wasn't even fighting anyone and initially scales far below Perfect Cell. Perfect Cell is already 3 things, faster than instant transmission, infinite speed and ki, and thirdly universal. He can't have early Android saga power levels. Misinfo 2. Goku adding Life Ki to the Kamehameha. Sure he did, it was just too insignificant to matter. Vegeta allowed an opening for Gohan to try his hardest, and Goku found the opening. Not so much as using his own power (the boost from dying still wouldn't have gotten him stronger than Trunks, let alone Cell at the moment) but giving it to Gohan. Misinfo 3. Kid Buu already had the Kai-Kai, and Buu fresh out of his seal was much faster than the characters who were already faster than instant teleportation (meta cooler, android saga goku, super android 13, cell, and so much more.) Once again, movies and GT are canon, and I'm glad to help you further understand the scaling since you're still exploring those.
First of all, WALL OF TEXT Second, GT itself isn't canon. Confirmed by Super's entire Existence. It appearing in Dragon Ball Heroes doesn't count, because both its Anime and Games aren't canon either. Cooler has never appeared in the CANON Anime or Manga, and at this point if he hasn't appeared he isn't going to.
are you ai bro?
Nope, my intelligence is genuine No matter how limited it is lmao
@@driveghost1996 nah i was tripping on your voice in the beginning
Jesus, you sound like a MAGA zombie 😑
I think Kid Buu did copy IT and Kai Kai was something the characters got wrong. Buu only really learns Goku’s attacks and he likely wouldn’t have gotten the ability to instantly where Goku and the others were if not for having the same technique Goku had repeatedly used in front of Buu rather than the Kai Kai which I’m not even sure he saw, unlike the Kamehameha.
Innocent Buu was born much faster than instant teleporting. Yes, he copied the Kai-Kai (from absorbing the Kais) which allows one to teleport anywhere in the macrocosm.
@@rriverderch7035 I don’t know what your first sentence means so you have to rephrase that. And I know how both of them work. Buu doesn’t copy anyone’s attacks naturally aside from Goku due to how he’s related to him as antagonist. Not to mention the Evil Buu doesn’t ever see the Kai Kai. Only Instant Transmission. Even when he was a single entity as Innocent Buu. And again. Kid Buu is a pure Buu. He doesn’t have any additional abilities that aren’t a part of him. He also looks off and teleports to the realm of the Kais, a place he wouldn’t really know to go to. In the anime he goes to places with power/lots of ki like Otherworld first. It’s Instant Transmission. Goku hits and the others get it wrong and don’t realize because part of the story is that why the Buu situation gets as bad as it does is because of Goku and him unknowingly negatively (for the protagonists) influencing Buu while knowingly not choosing to influence the protagonists (or “next generation”) for the better, even though that line of thinking is wrong. The games got it right because Kid Buu is thematically an “evil Goku” so yeah, it’s Instant Transmission.
Either way, it amounts to the same Just that they specifically say he copied Kai Kai
@@ChaosGodEnerjak My first sentence rephrased: It literally makes no sense for Buu to copy a technique he's perfected/faster than. Buu came out the gate faster than people, who are faster than instant transmission (cell, meta cooler, Goku, vegeta) Secondly, "Buu doesn't copy attacks naturally" is plain wrong. When he fights Supreme Kai, we see a moment where Buu performs the exact same magical eye beam Shin does JUST AFTER being hit with it. Never was he only copying Goku's moves (which aren't even his) as he absorbed the Supreme Kais and Dai Kaioshin. Moreover "Kid Buu is pure Buu" That's objectively false. Kid Buu and Innocent Buu are narratively seperate. The scariest Buu from Shin's past DOES NOT EQUAL Buu after all of his experience with the Z Fighters and absorptions. Furthermore, he still has all the power, Ki control, magic abilities, techniques, martial arts and knowledge that he stole from everyone he's ever absorbed, while Innocent Buu does not! He went to otherworld because the fighters there were stronger, not closer for Instant Transmission (a skill he had a long time ago used for fights and energy/position tracking) but for the Kai-Kai. (meant for travelling anywhere in Universe 7) Goku did knowingly made Buu too strong, but it was a win win. That pushed Gohan, Goten and Trunks to become far stronger than Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and 18, but the plot kicks in and they get absorbed.
@@driveghost1996 he already had it and Shin simply forgets for dramatic effect
What is it with you guys and not understanding things? Deathbattle showed in their video why they choose this pretty well.
Being confidently wrong doesn't make them correct.
@@driveghost1996 What makes them wrong and your opinon right? We are talking about fiction here.
The wild thing about king cold is that we don't even know what form he's in lmao. That could just be his first form and he's that massive 😂😂😂
Would make no sense because he didnt even try to power up against Trunks. Frieza said he invented his transformations to contain his own power so its unlikely King Cold would have any at all
As I say, he can't transform lol The only evidence for it is one statement from a French Guidebook and a brief implication in the Dragon Box Set that he "seems like the type to transform"
Dragonballs always had abysmal power scaling because toriyama wasn't too great at writing for it to make sense. It's a mess. Super Saiyan was this unique crazy multiplicative boost but a new villain comes along every time and it's meaningless. Like we literally have #17 on par with super Saiyan blue, basically god energy. When he was weaker than base cell.....And then other randoms in their normal state like hit, jiren etc being op without transforming. You shouldn't be that powerful compared to them. Goku and vegeta have been fighting for years and their transformations should put them leagues above anyone. The jump from SS1 to 2 was immense. At 1 they couldn't do anything to cell, but at 2 he was dog walked. Super Saiyan 3 should be sooo much stronger than 2 and super Saiyan god is vastly stronger than 3 and blue is to god (red) and UI made blue worthless since that did nothing to jiren but UI did? Majin buu was a terror of the universe and super Saiyan 3 Goku could defeat him, even more so now in SS3. Now, SSB should be no challenge, he should evaporate him with a single Kamehameha. Its leagues above 3 by 2 forms but i bet you buu would hold his own somehow. Its so stupid. Remember frieza on namek who is weaker than a super Saiyan 1? but back before that, think on how drastic his power ups were each form. Piccolo after fusing walked all over his 2nd form, but was smoked by his xenomorph ahh 3rd form. And its not that much in terms of power now. And then he goes to his final form, his true self and its hopeless for everyone. Nkw super Saiyan is a MUCH bigger leap in power with each stage. Once again, means nothing clearly. Hopefully some writing changes now and we get better scaling. I highly doubt it though...
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@@driveghost1996 I'm all about it 👍
Great video
Death Battle are the same gaggle of goons that give the W to whichever character in the fight is from any of that sponsor's properties. They're a fucking joke.
Eh, glad I don't care for Death battle and Screw Attack. They usually don't do good research anyways.
You know no matter what you people think it's fact that Bardock is a low class Saiyan warrior who's power level is around 2800 to 3500 not 7000 because that would make him stronger then even Nappa who a power level of 4000 and who was also a Saiyan elite general and no Bardock is not comparable to King Vegeta as one that was just some fake bs spouted by Death Battle, and considering that King Vegeta's power level is 10.000 that would make Bardock comparable to Prince Vegeta who's power level was 8000 when him and Nappa arrived on earth not King Vegeta as even if you were to upscale Bardock's power to that bs 7000 he still would pale to compare to King Vegeta's 10.000 power level, and i mean come on Prince Vegeta once referred to Bardock as nothing more then a pile of low level Saiyan trash, and why would he say that if Bardock was way stronger then Prince Vegeta's right hand man Nappa?! answer, he wouldn't, and as far as Bardock vs Omni-Man, Bardock would need to be stronger then his son "Goku" was when he fought Fat Majin Buu in his Super Saiyan 3 form to even come close to having a chance of beating Omni-Man who i should remind you can knock off the head of a full grown man with just a finger and who can fly so fast that he can set the atmosphere of the planet on fire and who can also fly straight through a planet 3x the size of earth without even breaking a sweat, and Bardock meanwhile cant even blow up a single planet with an energy blast let alone with his fists and no he can not turn into a Super Saiyan either as he only did that in games like Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 and Dragon Ball: Heroes and everyone knows that the games aren't canon, So no Bardock is not comparable to King Vegeta as he's at best comparable to Scouter/Saiyan saga Vegeta and he stands no chance against someone like Omni-Man, end of story goodnight.
the thing about power levels is, you can't exactly say how MUCH of a gap there is between them, so it's impossible to actually scale them (compared to SSJ and Oozaru confirmed to boost power by a set amount). you can't just say "well he's way stronger than Roshi with a PL of 137 blowing up the moon so therefore way stronger than Nolan" because you straight up can't measure that at all. and it's also a really big arc in Invincible that the Coalition of Planets don't have weapons that can hurt Viltrumites, with them still having the ship that then blows up the Solar Disk at this point. that and Conquest later destroys the ship (which was mentioned in a black box) even if Bardock took strength with the reason being Nolan's power being an outlier, you can still say that also applies to Goku's Namek speed feat bringing back the whole "Bardock is stronger and Nolan is faster" which would still have Nolan win in that case. their point isn't that Nolan JUST oneshots, their point is that Nolan can whether the storm as Bardock tires himself out, freeing up Nolan to wail on him getting the killing blow. even his higher forms don't save him because they drain him even faster, to which Nolan's superior BIQ, Experience and Stamina would wait out
2:23 nope they actively lowballed bardock consistently throughout that entire thing Travel speed is the only advantage that omni man had bardock speed blitzes with the insane combat speed and easily overpowers him
There's no need to debunk this. They clearly hate the east. They put omni-man against a minor side character who can't even transform once. They can't fathom that a.erica could possibly lose to the east.
Typical dbz Fans
It's only "typical" because they go out of their way to make matchups that DBZ chars either lose or they MAKE lose since they know it steams people up. and what's worse is that this is one that's objectively wrong
@@driveghost1996 suuure
@@V15.12But it's true though. They literally are being called out by everyone because of how poorly scripted their research is. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that dragon ball keeps getting bigger and bigger to the point that a well written research is needed for this death battle to make sense lol
@@NinjaXFiles i dont think dragon ball ever made any sense
@@V15.12 Do you feel even slightly weird that you talk more than you should because you don't know anything? Asking genuinely, here.
one thing I would like to point out as well, is ultimately while Death Battle themselves decide which battles to animate and analyze, all battles are fan suggestions. They don't just make up matchups.
Yeah but the least they could do is actually try to get a good outcome in that case
@@driveghost1996 I think it is a good outcome. Whether it's the one we want is not what decides if it's a good outcome. What gets them more views is what is likely considered a good outcome.
I looked at this fight on day one, and let me tell you the amount of inaccuracies is insane! Every single individual combat feature went to Bardock, but since Omni-Man had millennia of battles he won?? WTF? One of the most disappointing outcomes of a Death Battle IMO!
Yeah, this is a lot of BS. Let's remember that Allen the Alien in the Invincible comic became stronger than most Viltrumites after recovering from an injury. And he's in their own universe, and not nearly as old as Nolan, nor is he nearly as powerful as Bardock even BEFORE reaching Super Saiyan
You are actually wrong about omniman being more skileld than bardock. Omniman at most once encountered a threat that could match him in most of his experiences, as its rare for viltrumites to actively fight each other. Bardock has had to fight equal opponents and gradualyl grow more powerful fight after fight after fight, adapting against both singular individuals with high levels of powre to entier cvilizations with advanced technology. omniman is not adaptive in his fighting style. Its why his son will ultimately surpass him cause he is adaptvie cause he is facing peeps that match his strength and more. A good example is the fight with the giant chtulu thing. omniman ultimately could not kill it, cause he would 100% kill a monster cause he could get away with it easily. his son however managed to defeat it by both tricking it into electrical wiers and binding it in said electrical wires. Essentaily viltrumites are soft cause they are not used to fighting equal level threats, let alone superior threats.
It's not "rare" for Viltrumites to fight each other, that was part of their trials from the start. Granted, after becoming proper soldiers it's rare for them to fight each other, but they do it a lot before then to prove themselves
Can bardock beat doctor strange even with all his raw power? No. Can omniman beat a doctor strange who only uses energy blasts? Also no. "Omniman can push through a planet, so he could totally push through strange's human body or Bardocks saiyan body." Can he push through immaterial light or non matter? No? Then he loses because they can.
Nice to see people making videos when their favourite character/series loses is still going strong. /sar
It's moreso because they're objectively wrong about who won, and so many people have already proven it with research.
@@driveghost1996 Uh huh. Ignoring the fact that they have an entire team of researchers, and you just think that they didn't think of the things you did?
@@ShadowdaHedgie11 Considering they've gotten so many Outcomes wrong that there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of videos PROVING THEM WRONG. Yeah. Clearly they haven't. Their team either sucks or doesn't care.
@@driveghost1996 "proving them wrong" Usually by completely ignoring the facts Death Battle brought up in favour of what other people THINK. Do I think Death Battle is right 100% of the time? No. Am I going to trust them over the (usually extremely biased or didn’t even look at the actual lore of one of the series, let alone the specific character) people who make videos? Yep.
@@driveghost1996 wrong according to you is not 'objectively' wrong, it's subjectively wrong.
Death Battle hates DragonBall characters like yes Superman will defeat Goku no question, but Omniman defeats Bardock while using SSJ is absolute ludicrous 😂
And yet they gave him SSJ when it's not even canon for him to have done so...
Let's hope this brother wife doesn't see this video 🙏
They seem to have taken an outlier statement and just went with it despite all previous showings and feats contradicting that. What irked me most was their inconsistent evaluation on Bardock, they used his power level to determine what he can do based on feats of chatacters with similar power levels. They then multiplied those feats by 10 and 50, problem is, those multipliers apply to the power level, meaning that Oozaru is at 100.000 and Super Saiyan Bardock is at 500.000 which makes him almost perfectly on par with first form Frieza. They should’ve scale him like this but nope.
i kinda hope in the Invincible TV series, that they improve the planet busting feat for Omni-Man. like, they're about to fire Space Racers gun, but then Nolan holds up his arm fist clenched. "wait! hold on." Thaddeus, "what is it Nolan? you don't mean to..." Nolan, "please just, let me do it. on my own." Mark, "but you'll die!" he starts floating towards the planet. Nolan, "i may. and, i wouldn't mind if i did." Mark, "but dad!!" he turns around, and holds his arms. "i love you son. take care of everything back at home, if i don't make it." Mark starts crying. Nolan hugs him. he then flies toward the planet, faster than he's ever flown before. as he enters the planets atmosphere, he starts spinning. in less than a millisecond he reaches the surface. causing a massive explosion as he does. and a second or two later, he pops out the other side. and about a minute later, the planet explodes. Mark, "DAD!!!" he turns around and gives his son a shakey thumbs up as he's engulfed by the explosion. cut to two weeks later. they hold a funeral for him. and just as they're about to lower the casket, "yo!" they all turn around to see who it was that said that. "you know i gotta say, funeral food is fucking awesome." Mark, "dad? y-you're alive?" Nolan, "heh heh, yyyeah." sips his coffee.
As...interesting as that is, no.
@@driveghost1996 Why not?
@@strider_hiryu850 I just don't think they should deviate so much from the original comic I also don't think they WOULD.
@@driveghost1996 Haven’t they already deviated from the comics quite a bit? I really don’t see what the problem is. If it leads to better/interesting/streamlined storytelling? I say go for it. The main problem with deviating from the source material is when the adaptation starts cutting and removing content. Not when the director changes a few elements of a scene, but otherwise keeps it mostly intact.
@@strider_hiryu850 Yeah, they've had big deviations, but I don't think they would deviate from such a major scene so much. Plus the whole point of the scene was that none of them could do it alone and they'd not only need Temwork but Luck to pull it off.