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Just bought one ... can't wait for Spring 25 to come. My 1200 Trophy is playing up ...... when I turn off the ignition the starter motor begins to crank !!! Anyone got an idea what could be causing this ?

Great review Terence and considering you own a GS a very honest one, no one likes to admit they may have made a mistake. I've had 5 GSs in the past 4 of these being GSAs, also owned 6 Fireblades which I loved, I love touring and this combined with getting older told me I needed something else. So tried a GS and loved it, made touring a totally different experience, I knew it was'nt the fastest or best handling bike in the world but it was built to tour. So fast forward a few years and decided I needed a bit more excitement but still wanted to tour so I bought a 22 msport XR. What a machine, everything in my opinion was better than a GS, never took the GS off road so that was never an issue for me. Started to get some electrical problems on a couple of trips, was always when the bike was stopped, after fueling waiting at tolls the TFT would go blank and the engine died, sometimes I would wait 20 minutes and it would start again and be fine. This started happening more and more, BMW had it 3 times and kept telling me they could'nt find a problem, so after losing all confidence in the bike I traded it in for a lovely looking last of the line GSA 1250. This was a huge mistake, after 2 years on the XR this thing felt like a tractor, I know they're all about the torque but that initial pull just seems to fade very quickly, the suspension was wallowy and to be honest a bit scary going into corners, the whole bike never felt composed, just too much bounce all of the time. Put 60 miles on it and it just sat in my garage for a month, my wife then said to me out of the blue, for god sake go and get another XR. So 2 weeks later a 24 msport XR was sat in the garage, an expensive mistake but definetely the right thing to do. A few minor tweaks made since my 22 bike but they've made it even better, quickshift somehow is even better, suspension is improved, the seat is better, brakes are still the best i've ever had on a bike. The induction noise when you are opening it up is so addictive, it's GS comfortable with 50 times more excitement, did Spain and Germany on it this year and it just does everything.

I bought a "plan my service" from Bowker Motorrad in Preston. Originally, I thought I'd do 60k miles across 3 years, because I was commuting to London, on 3 days a week which equated to 600 miles a week. BMW wouldn't cover that level of mileage. I bought my bike in Peterborough from Sycamore. I was living in East Northamptonshire, so it was relatively close. The only issue is, I have to ride to Preston for servicing and it costs me £70 a month. However, as I have not used the services as per the scheduled mileage, I still own them, and can transfer them to another bike. I have just hit 20k miles in 2 years, but I live closer to London and have only been commuting one day a week for a total of 130miles a week. I know it's a lot, but I didn't expect my job patterns to change or to move house when I bought the bike in Nov 2022. If you're a high mileage rider wanting BMW servicing on a monthy payment basis, contact Bowker ask about "plan my service".

More than happy with them on my Multistrada, can’t fault them, I guess we all find something we’re happy with depending on how, when and where we ride.

rippoff bikes from purchase to service to parts--- ill never own another bmw, jap bikes forever, ktms greed killed them, bmw will be next

Interesting, you're covered by time. Here in Australia, you're buying a certain amount of services; instead of 3 or 5 year plans, you buy 3 or 5 service packages, so I'll probably pay for the 10,000 km service, then buy the 5 pack, so I get the 20k, 40k, and 60k services (the expensive ones) covered.

Watched your 'old' video for reference just last year. Is the 3:58 "wash & vac" just a hand job for a m/c or both?

I am happy to note that the bike is still on the market in EU. I actually like the Cafe version … but I did not sit in one yet.

Great review

with the way yamaha destroyed the looks of the new tracer 9,i see this selling like hot cakes

I love the 800, as I can get a 660 cheaper.

and a lot more expensive.

Give me a 660

If you are worried about weight ect buy a tourer Like a Can-Am Spyder for comfort never pick up a bike again.

THE only video on YT that clearly explains the difference between routes & tracks. Helped me enormously thank you for taking the time to make the video. CB500x

Is there way you can converted to have twin low and twin high beam lights?

Can I ask what rear rack you’re using? Looks fantastic

Can they be turned off completely, or are they always on?

Very informative. I’ll stay away from the low suspension.

looks great

Hi Terence, Great video's but got a question my auxiliary/spots have decided to give in on my tiger 800 after the recent heavy rain could and would it be the relay that has given up ? Rich

I have a C400X I'm based in Athlone

Another bike that’s not suitable for tall riders...

I recently did my bike training and there was a guy who had a Honda forxa 125. He wanted a bike licence to upgrade to a forxa 400. i had an sv650 and he had that, often i couldn't keep up with him, that might just be me but they aint slow. And under the seat there's plenty of boot space, you could do boot sales with that. Probably all anyone needs. The BMW is obviously a premium version for premium people.

Mistake no. 4: Forget to pull out the keyfob from Faraday bag before riding the bike.

What a great video 👍🏻 I will buy a Tiger XCA 1200 2017, that’s around 60,000kms, the price is good I think due to kms. The seller says that all services done by Triumph, but I’m afraid and I’m don’t know if I should be worry about the kilometers. Any recommendations? I will appreciate it! Regards from Mexico 🇲🇽

Just how long j=have you been riding a bike? Even the V strom 650 has the same adjustment on the rear shock..even my 1980s bikes had rear damping adjustment Also try reading the manual, the manula will tell you what the gross weight for the bike is, the fact that you make up 25% of the loaded weight of on your Honda dosent matter. Raef the manual & it will tell you what weight it is capable of carrying as it depands on the spring / load capacity & not the % of wesight you are. Oh & if you check the suzuki web site you will find that the owners manual on the web site to download

Drop a bit in tyre pressure and they won't cut deep in the corners

At 72 and 20 yrs after giving up the CR500 and desert racing, I bought a 2022 KLR650. What a pig. Topheavy, no lungs or springs. Loving it.....

Slow down boys < the old hornet 900 was a bit vibee mine a lot

I’m disappointed you did the review with a Triumph jumper on. Not angry, just very disappointed. Great video thank you

Read the magazines and it is like an advatorial. It is constant gushing, on every bike!

All well and good saying suspension sag takes care of the problem but what if the main issue is that you can not climb on the seat in the first place! Old legs and old hips make this a bit problematic.

I love mine, 2017

Quick question - much as I'd love the valve inspection interval to be 24k miles, the only info I can see on the BSA UK website says 24k kilometers. Has this changed ? Are they now saying 2k mies ?

I'm 80 and ride a Yamaha XJR 1300 It's the comfiest bike I have ever owned..

An amazing bike for this price point shows Honda are the only ones taking the Chinese on.

Just wish honda would make it where it came with a touring windscreen

There's something really off about the fueling when cruising on my Speed 400 so will probably pack it in and get one of these.

Best bike review video I’ve seen in a long while and not only that …it’s featuring the new 1000 cc Hornet proper job 👍🏍️💨💨

Had Bt023 on my Multistrada as they were cheap at the time, absolutely ruined the turn in on bike went from Angel GT decent turn in to a heavy weight barge very wooden feel from the Bridgestones, went to Switzerland got 6k out of them now on Dunlop TTs god it's nice to have a bike that turns in again, I've had Road 5 and 6 can't fault them apart from multiple punctures, you got sorted and that's what's important 👍.

Yes, That green one is rather tasty.

There has been nothing in the last 11 years that would make me want to change my Speed Triple R, Brembo, Ohlins, lightweight rims and a wee touch of carbon. 👍🏻 GSXR’s were my thing but health stopped them.!!! Enjoy your riding. 🏍️💨💨💨

Putting on new tyre has always speeded up the steering of my bikes; maybe it is due an increase of rear ride height as the rears do tend to square-off

Well I'm not paying the extra money for the system, the tiny screen is just ridiculous, Triumph just presented the brand new tiger sport 800 (+12k euros) and they fitted the same display... Speechless

Been riding for more than 60 years, licensed for more than 55, ridden the gamut of sizes, covering more than 700,000 km in at least a dozen countries...... and have found the simple little CB125F to be all the bike I need for the gravel roads and byways I often ride, commuting, and even the odd spin on the motorway when there is no other option. Have travelled over 400 km comfortably in a day several times. Averaging about 145 mpg (UK). Have had it up to an indicated 110 km/hr, feels unstressed at 90 on the motorway. All in all a step up from the 1997 Honda Dream 100 I owned for 16 years in SE Asia.... and sold with 295,000 km on the clock.

I put my deposit down never had inline four can't

I've tried all sorts/makes of tyres over the years and there's not much between any of the the top manufacturers!

The road5 was terrible for punctures, michelins are so light and flimsy. I have Angel GTs now and much prefer them.

Thank you for sharing your height and weight. Gives me hope that I could be comfortable too. Excellent multi-camera production with very good audio. Great job on both M/C content and crafting the video. Thanks again --