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Appreciate the video! I’m a coaster enthusiast who calls Canada 🇨🇦 home. Canada Wonderland is my home park 😊. I respect your criticism but I would challenge that Canada’s wonderland having such a large number of coasters of different styles and builds make it unique. Dragon Fire for example is a solid coaster for a double loop right off the start. The big three in Leviathan, behemoth, and Yukon striker would be flagship rides for many parks and it’s awesome they are all within the same park! I agree mindbuster is rough but they did redo the trains a few years ago to slightly improve it. Wild beast I think is a decent wood coaster. Appreciate the video! You have a new sub with bell on !

Bruh I vist this place during summer vacation

Thorough video! It’s hard to stand up to Cedar Point but I absolutely adore King’s Island. I feel like KI is a great compliment park since it has amazing wooden coasters at Sandusky just doesn’t have

Cedar Point is overrated when people say it’s so much better than Magic Mountain. Magic Mountain is every bit as good and as the advantage of being in Los Angeles

Kings Island. The operations are much friendlier.

How do you even know this?

Slingshot at Cedar Point is one of the craziest things ever!

For me, how about BOTH? I need to revisit Cedar Point and get on more rides there, and also head to Kings Island on top of that to compare and contrast.

Cedar Point is one of the finest examples of an expanded leisure destination to amusement park and Kings Island is one of the finest examples of a designed theme park. If you're visiting the Northern part of the state and have an extra day or two go to Cedar Point. If you're going to the Southern and particularly the Southwestern part of the state, Kings Island won't disappoint. If you're going specifically to visit parks just buy a season pass and an All Park Passport and spend multiple days at both parks. Plenty to do especially if you also enjoy water parks.

Dude… “Koshers”??

Definitely Universal Studios.

You make a lot of points that are going to make viewers questions your credibility. If you want to build your subscriber count, you might just stick to praising what you like about Iron Gwazi and Maverick and any others.

I had no idea Insanity at the Strat closed.Glad I rode it a few years ago!

at times the waits for Darkkoaster is hitting 200 minute estimates, and Verboten a lot of times is sitting around 120 minutes

Kings island is better

Drachen Fire was not located behind DarKoaster. It was located on the far west coaster to the left of the former Big Bad Wolf, where Verbolten currently sits.

TLDR; strong, incorrect opinions.

Honestly, even kids who love Disney will like Busch Gardens better. My 7 year old daughter has Disney princesses and Stitch all over her walls. We went to Universal, Magic Kingdom, Animal Kingdom, and Busch Gardens over a week. My daughter didn’t enjoy either of the Disney parks in the same way she enjoyed Busch Gardens and the Universal resort.

There's no competition. Both parks have been designed not to compete with each other since cedar fair took over years ago. Ki is our home park and we just head up to CP about 4 hours away a few times a year. Cedar point has no decent wooden coasters but has maverick, millennium force and Steve. Ki has the beast at night. And I'll disagree about banshee vs raptor. I'm older and even my younger cohort said he felt sick after raptor. I can ride banshee 2x in a row. Raptor is a 🤮 to me. Fun video thanks!

You are certainly entitled to your opinion but you don't get to ignore the laws of physics. There can be no steeper drop than 90 degrees. 91 degrees is 89 inverted so it's actually an 89 degree drop on Gwazi. No wonder you have 171 subscribers. Try being informed before you open your mouth and show the world your lack of knowledge. Thanks

This might be the worst comparison video I've ever seen on these 2 parks. You compare blue streak to ki woodstock express but not Mystic Timbers? Ki and CP both have woodstock express kiddie coaters. Great pumpkin vs wilderness run and woodstock vs woodstock. You didnt even compare park layout, dining options, park capacity or ride ops. I can go to KI and not worry about what ride is going to be closed for the day. CP is always a gamble. KI is a better overall experience hands down.

If you are looking for a less stressful experience, go with Kings Island. The park is ran very well and is less mobbed than Cedar Point. Cedar Point is well worth visiting as well.

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steel vengeance has always been hit or miss for me, in 2022 when i first rode it i thought it was okay. i rode it again and got a trimless ride and loved it to pieces, but after riding again this year the trims were on and hitting harder than ever before the mid course is it biggest flaw.

I prefer six flags, because el toro is an absolutely ELITE coaster. Absolute ejector airtime machine, and the rolling thunder hill is almost TOO MUCH to take

I probably underrate Steel Vengeance because it's at Cedar Point. The line is always ridiculous, even on "slow" days, and on my visits, it never seemed to operate for more than an hour without breaking down. For the rides that I did get, it seemed that the airtime (although very enjoyable for me) was not nearly as strong as even RMCs that came before it. SV has around 25 airtime moments and a total of 27 seconds, but most of it is light ejector or floater. Meanwhile, Twisted Timbers is trying to rip you apart at the waist, which may be too much for some people, but it is significantly stronger. Storm Chaser, Twisted Colossus, & Wicked Cyclone also have far stronger airtime. Iron Rattler's 2 drops, 1st hill after the drop, 1st hill on top of the wall, & step-up into the brakes are all significantly stronger moments than anything on Steel Vengeance, and Iron Rattler was RMCs 2nd project. As much as I enjoy SV, and as much as I can appreciate floater and light ejector airtime, I think it's the 3rd weakest RMC in terms of airtime strength, only ahead of New Texas Giant & Joker.

its so funny how people say they respect your opinion but you say one bad thing about steel vengeance it's the end of the world

A poor imitation of the beast.

Fury is the most overrated coaster

its honestly kinda sad some people cant enjoy a ride for what the ride is meant to do, and if it isnt styled to their exact satisfaction they hate on it for literally no reason. just enjoy the fun in the ride

Some interesting takes here lol! Still love the video :)

Leviathan is better than iron gwazzi, iron gwazzi was so disappointing it felt like a bnm. When I rode iron gwazzi I was expecting some crazy airtime on the wave turn and that did not happen, wild cats revenges wave turn is better, the stall on iron gwazzi was also bad compared to wild cats revenge and steel vengeance. For me iron gwazzi is the most overrated rollercoaster ever. To me this is miles better.

Meh. This is sort of a bait video. People who say Steve is the best coaster in the world just don't have experience. However, it's rare to find the person who says this isn't at least in the top 10% of coasters. I actually like all the little airtime hills. It reminds me of a bucking bronco which is thematic to the area. I do think Gwazi is better, and I like other styles of coaster more than RMC remakes. But Steve is an amazing coaster in a park that already is full of them. There is no other park in NA, arguably the world, with a more complete set of amazing coasters. None of the coasters at CP are in my top 5, but I would rather have all of their very good coasters than 1 amazing coaster with a bunch of shit supporting ones

Brother put a pea 🫛 under his mattress because this man will feel it!

I would like to make several counterarguments. Firstly, when you say at 0:41 that Iron Gwazi is significantly better, it's such a vague comparison that you can't just end it by simply saying that one is better. Your argument of Iron Gwazi being better than Steel Vengeance due to its records is downright outrageous. By your analogy, that means that Formula Rossa is a better coaster than Maverick simply because it holds better statistics than Maverick. It's taller, faster, and longer. But do statistics really matter in comparing coasters? I agree with @namevone. Roller coasters have different reasons for being built. Formula Rossa is built to be the fastest launch coaster, while Maverick might have a different reason. In this case, Steel Vengeance has a completely different layout than Iron Gwazi, and their intentions are different. Steel Vengeance mainly focuses on its airtime, while Iron Gwazi focuses on its wave turns and banked elements. Iron Gwazi has nowhere near the airtime as Steel Vengeance, while Steel Vengeance doesn't have nearly enough intensity on its waves and inversions as Iron Gwazi. Both coasters are completely different pieces of art, so you can't really just say that one is simply better than the other. I would like to question your argument about outer banks at 1:36. Firstly, you need to understand that both coasters have been built nearly 4 years apart. And 4 (technically 5) years before Steel Vengeance came Iron Rattler. As you know, in the short time that RMC existed, they have improved their design a lot. Steel Vengeance has way better ways of using the same element. This comparison is the same for yours of Iron Gwazi and Steel Vengeance. Time plays an important role. RMC has developed its elements tenfold in the 4 years, and one can't simply assume that RMC would give the same intensity down the road. Additionally, you lack evidence for your claim on outer banked inversions. Your opinion is your own, and it can't be justified unless a majority of the roller coaster community agrees. I can say that Son of the Beast is an extremely smooth coaster(not true)--that's my own opinion. But that's not necessarily justified unless most of the community agrees on this claim. My opponent claims at 2:05 that Steel Vengeance has weaker inversions than Iron Gwazi. However, I again state the fact that both coasters are built with different intentions. Steel Vengeance isn't focused on inversions. Sure, they're a major part of the ride, but it's not the main point of the ride. Iron Gwazi was not built with the intention of making a 30-second airtime count. Thus, one cannot simply claim that the other coaster is better mainly due to the lack of elements in one coaster. Additionally, at 2:20, your claim on a death roll is rhetorical. Firstly, Steel Vengeance does not have a death roll at all, so this comparison cannot be enforced. Sure, it's one of the best inversions. But that's not a valid argument to back up your claim. You also claim at the fact that the inversions on Iron Gwazi are better than Steel Vengeance. In turn, by using your analogy, I can argue that the airtime on Steel Vengeance is much better than Iron Gwazi, which is what makes it a better coaster. Your counterargument of Steel Vengeance having very quick pops of airtime--if this isn't good for you, what is? 27 seconds of airtime is way more than enough. My opponent also claims that another factor for Iron Gwazi being better than Steel Vengeance is its better pacing and sustained airtime. I do agree--in fact. However, this cannot be one of the major factors for Iron Gwazi being better than Steel Vengeance. Additionally, regarding your claim about Alan Shilke replacing the second half with camelbacks--have you ever tried designing a coaster before? The second half of the Steel Vengeance is focused on its short pops of airtime and inversions, not with sustained airtime. So it would not make sense to randomly add elements that haven't been used in the layout before. Also, climate and wheels do not have any part in this argument--stop using fillers to "support" your claims. Onto your next comparison--I would say your first argument just disappoints me. Again, Steel Vengeance and Maverick are COMPLETELY different rides. Steel Vengeance doesn't have low-to-the-ground turns and whippy transitions, and Maverick doesn't have 27 seconds of airtime. This is like comparing a giraffe to a monkey. They're completely different things, and one cannot simply say that the other "destroys in every single way possible." Monkeys have traits and abilities that giraffes don't have, and vice versa. Again, you're comparing two completely different variables in terms of elements at 6:02. Steel Vengeance doesn't have a beyond vertical drop with a launch going into it. So obviously, it will lack some airtime. This comparison is much more outrageous than with Iron Gwazi. Firstly, these two are completely different models and manufacturers. As such, the restraints, track, wheels, etc are obviously going to differ. Manufacturers are obviously going to provide different kinds of elements and intensity, so why bother? Going back to your first analogy, this means that Steel Vengeance is better simply due to it having much more records than Maverick. Height, speed, etc etc. Even you said it yourself at 6:20 that these two are built for completely different intentions, so how can you possibly compare two completely different roller coasters? Your conclusion to your claim that the reason why Maverick is better than Steel Vengeance is horrendous. You can't simply love a coaster more because it provides better in one aspect--and that's having better airtime. Since when did airtime become the basis of knowing which coaster is better? Additionally, your argument doesn't even match your claim. Your claim is that Steel Vengeance is overrated, while you give me a few opinions and personal reasons--that aren't even upported--as to why Steel Vengeance is worse than Maverick and Iron Gwazi. Though you do say a few sentences about why Steel Vengeance is overrated at the end, your evidence does not even connect in the slightest. Speaking of evidence--it's so vague that I'm surprised you even managed to get a few says out of it. Theres no statistics, charts, etc. The basis of your argument lies on your own personal opinions comparing COMPLETELY DIFFERENT roller coasters. Iron Gwazi and Maverick are good rides--but they're not good comparisons. I respect your bold claim, but I have a hard time believing it to be true, especially with the evidence that you brought up.

Your argument from 3:45 to 4:05 is exactly why I like STEVE

I think Iron Gwazi is extremely overrated personally, STEVE has the complete layout. I don’t like the 2 turnarounds IG has. The second half on STEVE is better than IG alone.

Steel Vengeance is still better

I think comparing SteVe to Iron Gwazi and Maverick is pretty unfair, because it was never designed to be similar to those rides. Those 2 rides were designed to have break neck pacing, and that just never was the goal with Steel Vengeance. It's like comparing I305 to Millie, sure they're both Intamin giga's, but they were designed with such different goals that they might as well be different models. It's fair to prefer one over the other, but I don't think the comparisons make much sense.

It is a properly rated ride at a highly overrated park. I don’t love it because it is at cedar point. I love it because it is an incredible ride.

The amazing thing about Steel Vengeance is that they took a horrible ride (Mean Streak) and made it an incredible ride. Def my favorite at Cedar Point (along with Maverick).

It’s a bit weird to say coasters are overrated/ underrated its all up to preference. Just so happens many people value lots of airtime and a ‘full’ ride experience which is just as valid as anything else. People act like others’ roller coaster opinion is fact and then invalidate them by saying they’re just copying big youtubers or saying the experience they had was wrong. My friends would probably say Valravn was their favorite from cedar point, and i think SteVe has probably fallen off most youtubers’ top 1 with all of the innovation we’ve seen since 2018.

hive mind mentality, they see other people saying its the best and think its the best too. if most big youtubers didnt say its the best coaster, they probably wouldn't have it as number 1.

Well… I think you are right about all your comparisons Steve to iron gwazi here… except calling Steve over rated. I think Steve was considered the best roller coaster ever, until Gwaz and Zadra came out. Now there are a ton of people that consider those two higher rated than Steve, so it is appropriately rated, like yeah it’s not the number one but most people aren’t saying it is. They might be saying that steel vengeance is better for being longer and more complete than the other two mega hybrids, but in my opinion that extra length is just bunny hops that can be a little redundant, and simple inversions-you don’t really miss them on IG or zadra (I assume, haven’t been on zadra. I disagree on maverick being better as an overall product. And mavericks airtime is not stronger in my opinion. But yeah to say it’s overrated and only gets good marks because it’s at cedar point… nah, at least a good handful of us are considering 15-20 different categories and factors when ranking these rides and not just jumping on the band wagon

I hate steel vengeance because of those quick pops and the terrible restraints