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Trying to decide which to go with 30-06 or 280 ai. Want something to deer up to moose size

Not gonna lie, Hornaday lost me when started reinventing all the cartridges , this was just to sell more ammo.

Have a CDL stainless fluted Ltd edition and a 7400 semi in reg 280 Rem also

I got mine in a Kimber pro hunter. AI

28 all day.

I agree With You !!!!!

Nice rifle!! I don’t agree with the choice in ammunition for it but shoot what you like!! I have seen so many failures with the hammer bullets with my own eyes and TH-cam and forums are polluted with stories of the hammer bullets failing going in a shoulder exiting a ham not expanding or expanding to fast and not getting any energy transfer and the harder people push these bullets the more likely the failure!!

My .263 SD- 210 grain- .338 Partitions run just under 2800 fps.

TWENTY-SIX INCH BARREL! Not a fair comparison, but the conclusion is correct.

Have any experience with a Kimber 84 in 280 Ackley, I'm looking for a lighter weight rifle so also a caliber with less recoil for a lighter weight rifle. Those kimbers come in under $1000 MSRP, any recommendations on rifles with or other than my Kimber in that $500 to $1000 range?

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While the 300 Mags have lots of Power and my Rifles are Magnums for Big Game. If I were to Build a Custom Rifle it would be a .280 REM as I don’t see my self ever hunting Brown Bear. Anything else in North America is well within its capabilities.

I use both Braid and Mono depends on the Rod being used. I typically use Mono on Baitcasting and Braid on Spinning. I also use lighter Tackle Baitcasting Rods and Shamino 150GL reels MH Fast 7’3 and Heavy Fast 7’4 and with a 17lb Mono and a 9inch Steel or Titanium in 30lb has accounted for many 40plus pike and my PB of 47’ never breaking off even in cabbage weeds. I do not throw any lures over 1 1/2oz Spinning I use 15lb Braid and just my Walleye Rod no baits over 5/8oz and have had 44 inch pike plus many over 40. I like mono for stretch when Big Pike surge by the boat but have been wanting to try 40lb Braid only for one reason longer casting distance, as Quality Mono has never let me down. I have no desire to throw Bulldogs or Musky size baits as I never have had a problem using smaller baits to catch large pike.

You missed a Great one 6mm Rem. Load Hornady 103gr ELD-X .512 BC and .258 SD Reloaded 3200 FPS this will get you out to 600 yards with over 1000ft lbs energy.

I am heading to Northern Manitoba late June of 2025. I want to bring one setup for Pike. I was leaning towards the St Croix Triumph Inshore in 7' MHF (1/2 to 1 1/4 oz). Do you think that would be a good choice for just one rod or should I go heavier? Most of the tackle that I have started to gather is in that 1 to 2 oz range. Thanks!!!

You two need your own fishing show. Another great video!

Sheep will always follow.

You work so well together! Love the enthusiasm! Your videos are top notch.

looked like a amazing day thanks for sharing

Beautiful day on the water!

3270fps with 140g Barnes TSX with my 280AI. Staball 6.5 powder is great in this cartridge

Why was the 6 5×55 never given the Ackley improved treatment like so many other cartridges?

That's four whole feet of fish!

Both upper end of too much recoil to be enjoyed, price of ammunition medium high versus stupid high. what availability of suitable rifles and factory ammunition to suit the shooter and tasks.

I'm surprised nobody talks about the 7mm Weatherby Mag or the 7x64 Brenneke. The Weatherby will push a 150gr pill close to 3200 fps. The 284 Winchester and 280 Ackley shouldn't be overlooked. They are very efficient and pack enough heat for most people.

thanks for taking us along awesome fish

What a monster pike!

I needed two reels, 1 for power fishing (catfish) and the other one for enjoyin. Got the tranx 401 for catfishing and '21 cal con 201 for satisfying my soul and now im broke😂. Cal con is obviously much much nicer reel but i have 0 complainments with tranx

7pm/love 7mm mauser.would like to see 35Whelen.thanks

Well done

No 7 PRC. Can't find ammo, and when you do, it's 100 bucks a box. 7 PRC does everything better. And cheaper to shoot.

Personally I run a 28 Nosler from Bergara. The original Wilderness Ridge with 1:9 twist w/ 26" barrel. Shot the 139 Brownings (garbage in my rifle), 160 Nosler Accubond and 175 Accubond LR. I have average .5 MOA @ 100 yard groups with the 175 consistently in 3 shot groups (plenty of times 2 shots overlapping and one shot slight right, probably my fault). That has been from cold, clean barrel and shots spaced out over 10-15 minutes and quick subsequent shots in a hunting scenario (sub 1.5 min usually). Have not invested in chrono so I have no speed numbers to show, but after setting 0 at 100 and dialing for up to 510 yards (longest shot on deer), it was as accurate as I expected and put it through the pump house. I try to not shoot past warm barrel if possible. For my hunting ethics, I can shoot and take elk/moose out to 800 yards and be confident the bullet will do the job And with deer and black bears at longer range, if I had those longer range skills. Much pricier than the 7 PRC, but I am happy with my choice and accept paying 75+ per box for the 175's. I haven't tried the ELD-X's yet, maybe in '25 I will send some down range. Only running factory loads. Only improvements to the rifle has been bedding from the rear most part of action to the recoil lug and upgrading the muzzle brake from the Bergara omni brake to American Precision Arms Gen 3 Little Bastard Self Timing. Stock trigger, barrel and bolt. I plan to only replace it if I can't get a barrel for it when it comes time to get a new one!

I would say 300 WSM for for a cartridge closer to a perfection/do all cartridge, it pretty much gives you win mag performance in short action length with from what I've seen a higher potential accuracy and the 30 caliber is arguably the most versatile diameter in the ballistics world even today with all the options, a standard twist rate allows a huge selection of projectile weights that can near double in weight from lightest to heaviest........few diameters can claim the same

Which model do you think would be best for all round Pike fishing for bigger and smaller Pike?

I just won a .300 win mag in a raffle. Pretty happy to have it, the one issue I have with your argument is the barrel life. .30-06 is 5,000 rounds, 308 is 8,000. Our family has both those calibers, and it works SO well for us. Will be happy to use the .300 win mag on an elk hunt some day, just to give me that extra edge, but glad it’s not my “main rifle” - I can’t shoot it as long ! Love my trusty .30-06, my daughters love their .308s.

Good video, however, the 65/284 is a short action cartridge. Should not be included here. 3:09

I will have a Weatherby in 280ai. Unbelievable rifle for weight and accuracy. 👍👏🇺🇸

I owned a 358 years ago, great cartridge. I switched to one of the hardest hitting non- mag rounds people never hear of, the 9.3x62 , conservative hand loaded with 286 gr bullet @ 2480fps, 250gr @ 2640fps…one of the best non-magnum cartridges available. Shoots bullets from 230-320gr.

28 Nosler is way better in my opinion 🤷🏻‍♂️

Interesting difference in lure size you use vs us scandinavians. Everything less than ~7,5" and lighter than ~3,5oz is called downsize pike fishing here. Its what i only throw, but throwing a 12"+ 8oz swimbait jig is not something unusual over here. I never do, i am satisfied with smaller lures and dont have great waters here, so i go for numbers instead of size.

Very similar rod is their 8' Legend Elite Musky. Held in hand both almost feel identical other than a price tag and Elite being ever so slightly lighter.

The 35 Whelen would be another option, and it would have less recoil. I prefer the ballistic of the .338-06, but that might not be an option allowed in your area.

People way over scope hunting rifles; back in the ‘80s Canadian sniper rifles had 6X Khales scopes. Making hits to 1000 meters was no problem

I just checked Nosler load data for the 35 Whelen and the 358 Norma. Equal speed thou the Norma has 15 grns more powder cap?? with 250 grns bullet. Norma claims about 2800Fps, more likelly

Very nice rifle. First rifle I got was a 1895 7mm Mauser.

Flyfishing can outfish gear in spring when pike and musky are shallow. Intermediate line. I like big tube flies as it allows me to remove the hook without wrestling with the fly in their face. I would also suggest using less wrist movement when casting. Lock up your wrist and use more elbow movement.

Great video! For those who are on a budget or simply can’t afford a 3-$500 reel you may want to look into an Okuma Citrix 364 baitcast reel and a Shimano Cardiff round baitcaster. Both are very affordable and excellent reels for the money.

Final thought, the 375 Ruger.

For der and elk the 358 Winchester is amazing too. My kids used mine as teens.

I am a big fan of using heavy power 8'6" salmon rods for pike. They are especially nice if you have to travel as all of them are 2 piece. I was lucky enough to score to brand new St Croix Legend Elites in 8'6" heavy recently and truly believe they are one of the best tools for the job. St Croix also offers Pike specialized rods but I find the handles tad too short on must models.