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Jay Neal
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 10 เม.ย. 2014
This channel is dedicated to helping races get better at what they do. Please help us to support this channel with positive feed back and great ideas to move forward. Check out our web sites at bsbgofast.com and bsbshocks.com
Apexing a corner
Where we turn the race car will determine our speed. Three sectors to turn in where are you?
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Drive vs Momentum
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Understanding how you drive a track and choose what is best for you. Drive vs Momentum, which is faster to do. Used a new camera this time and in the end it turned off, good thing I was using 2 cameras. I will work on the exposer so it looks better. Thanks for the help and for watching.
225 TH Swift Spring and how it compares to others.
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The 225 tight helix spring for the RR, and what is the hype all about? www.bsbgofast.com/post/the-225-tight-helix-spring
Track Mapping, understanding how to explain where you are in the corner.
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Understanding the corner, in 5 minutes increments or in 3 sectors. Part 1 of a 3-part series. Part 1: Understanding the corner Part 2: Drive vs Momentum. th-cam.com/video/LwQKsOAA-54/w-d-xo.html Part 3: Apex the corner. th-cam.com/video/WN0xy0FFX2g/w-d-xo.html Please comment on your ideas about timing in the corner.
Pigtail Springs with a fix. Sorry
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If you are running a pigtail spring in IMCA you must stop. Update version without me acting funny. Thanks, Jason Dukes for the heads up. IMCA Hobby rule: www.imca.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/2024-Hobby-Stock-Rules.pdf This is a notification and not a bash, we LOVE IMCA.
Rear Spring Table
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The height of the spring determines the load the tire will see and how easy the car will roll over as the track slicks off.
RR Spring Location.
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RR spring location on a Stock Car, B-Mod and A-Mod and where and what is best.
High-Speed Rebound vs Low-Speed Rebound.
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High-speed rebound vs. Low-speed rebound and to understand the difference between them. www.bsbgofast.com/28seriesinfo This shaft can be put into a 15, 20, 23, 25, 60, and 70 Series Shock. When built we target the midpoint of adjustment. Valving that we are building: RF -A1 -75 ( midpoint 8 rebound) RF-A1-300 ( midpoint 12 rebound) RF-A1-500 ( midpoint 14 rebound)
Stock Car Shocks and Springs per corner.
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Stock Car setup per corner for shocks and springs. Link to view charts used in this video. www.bsbgofast.com/post/stock-car-spring-and-shocks
The 500-pound spring test, which is better.
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The 500 pound spring, was rated in a spring rater and a test bench. (Chevelle and standard lower) We tested : AFCO, Hyperco, Landrum, Eibach, BSB Link: www.bsbgofast.com/post/the-500-pound-spring
Hobby Stock Setup, for springs and shocks.
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Hobby Stock setup, springs, and shocks, for both IMCA and outlaw cars.
Dyno Charts and what they are.
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The four different dyno charts we use and how to understand them. Link for low speed and how to understand it. www.bsbgofast.com/post/low-speed-nose
Piston Design
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Piston design and how it affects the out come of the car. The piston is the heart of the shock.
Can you do a video on factory stock/pure stock for spring setup? 3200lb car
What if the right rear is compressed to much? Not sure how to get weight off RR without adding bite. Trying to stay at 40 lbs of bite. 225lbs spring and it is compressing to 10". All of the lead is off of the car. Also I put my preload spring on and it holds the left rear way to high. 100lbs spring with 2.25 inches of preload. Any suggestions?
Thank you for all the information
im sure its a dumb question but will shocks with schrader valves still preform with no gas pressure? What psi are normal for tie down shocks?
Jay... Wanted to ask or have you discuss the difference in the amount it takes to deflect the TH spring vs normal spring in the RR. Sportmods specifically with the IMCA rules forcing us to run the spring relativly straight up and down at ride height that results in the spring deflecting at attitude. We both know as a spirng deflects it loses rate. My thought was if the TH spring takes more energy to defelect (Not sure if it does or not, just my hypothisis) then that would add side bite with the spring pushing lateraly fighting to holding shape vs deflecting resulting in more side bite in the RR then a spring that deflects easier. Just a theory of mine. Let me know your thoughts? Yes, I watched the video to the end.
Very Great Info On Springs , Thank You
Our pleasure!
What is a symptom if you have too little RR load.
You will slide the RR and be loose on exit.
Sorry for the basic questions. I have so many track adjustment sheets and notes from one chassis builder to the next and one contradicts the other. I have one that came with my car that says more RR load makes tighter entry and loose off and less vice versa. Get steered in the wrong direction and never understand why cause I'm doing what they say too. Thank you for the info.
how do you setup that lr 175 for scaling? do you put it at a certain load or set with the old school bite?
Old school bite.
@@jaynealgofast ok thanks
I just picked up a clean Larson IMCA... its a bit dated... so I'll be looking at purchasing a modern pullbar, brackets, J-bar, birdcages, etc. Any suggestions. 😊 I'm a SS guy switching to IMCA mods.
Yes call me and we will line you out. 620-326-3152
I just don’t understand this. After I set the preload in LR and RR, do I not worry about the ride height in the rear? Do I not worry about LR bite?
Set the RR load at RIDE HEIGHT, and scale the car with bite. Then add the preloaded left rear spring setup, if this changes your ride height let it be, go race the car. Good luck and if you need more info call 620-326-3152.
Hi Jay, when you say 3" travel are you referring to eye to eye or LCA bolt or frame height? Thanks.
shock travel
I've been out of it for close to 20 yrs. Good info. Sub'd!
Awesome! Thank you!
How about a leaf spring video? I haven’t really seen you touch on these cars. Thank you!
Yes, this is a harder subject, we haven't raced a leaf car in many years. We do help some guys that run them.
I definitely lean towards apexing in sector 1 , but my car will not rotate or turn very well on or off gas. I have to muscle it around the corner and over drive it. Any tips? (Stock 4-link rear)
Get some rebound in the front and reduce drive in the rear. Watch some of the stock car videos we have.
Thanks for the information Jay. Just joined team bsb gonna call you tomorrow to order the pullbar adjuster.
Sounds good
What if there a small arc but high embankment? I race the Emo speedway
You may be able to race down the banking on exit or diamond the corner.
Thank you for your videos, running a street stock and struggling to keep up with a few of the top cars that win every weekend. I will begin the binge
Good luck and gofast.
This was incredibly helpful! I’ve done the Harris classes, read books, and watched tons of videos which definitely helps, but nobody talks about how to drive. This was what I needed to know. First night out after watching this I felt way better in the car. Thank you!!!
WOW very good, keep working on it.
Thanks again Mr Jay for taking the time to make these!
My pleasure! and you are so welcome.
Thanks Mr Jay. I love these videos you put out it helps a lot of us keep them coming please.
Thanks, will do!
Thank you Jay! These can’t come soon enough for me. Love the information
Thanks, I hope we can all grow in the same direction.
Very good stuff Jay, thank you!
Thank you and good luck with the rest of the season.
Last I knew the checkered flag 🏁 is always waved on corner exit … So with that said it makes no sense to Race as hard as u can I to corner entry just so u have to slow down and pay for that on corner exit.. So it’s ok to back your entry up so that you can get all u can on your corner exit where the W 🏁 $$ is waving!! So many guys in race with all just PlOW into the corners and then usually are spinning out center / off 🤦🏼 and they don’t learn either I always make sure my exit is always perfect and yea sometimes I back the entry up just a tad but guess what not a 1 beats me on exit. I think allot of these guys that over driver entry do so cause their gearing is wrong and or they’re finally thinking they are catching some cars lmao 😂. Racing isn’t for everybody Mr Jay I’ve given up trying to help these kinda guys cause there nodding like they get it but then they go out there wk after wk lap after lap and do the exact bs that u just preached to them. 🤦🏼. My track does 3 spins and your done cause sadly a few of em loop it every single lap.. 😂🤷🏼
Jay, thank you so much for making these videos. I am brand new to racing, running a hobby stock class. I set up my car with your shocks and springs, now I just need to learn how to drive. These videos should help tremendously. It would actually be beneficial for me and I assume other Newer drivers for you to break down Driver actions even more. As an example, braking at the end of the straightaway, then turning. Are you releasing the brake completely then turning, easing off of the brake while beginning your turn? Dragging brake while applying throttle? As you are applying power through the turn, how sideways should you allow the car to get? Basically none? Minimal? 1-2 feet out? At what point are you sacrificing speed? I realize this is going to be different for different classes of car. But I am assuming most beginners start with beginner classes. Thank you again for these videos!
Get your car geared as close to the tracks size that u can someone there for you don’t need a Ton of brake cause that just slows u down but get it so that your motor brake slows ya down just enough that you can just Roll to center and then right back in the throttle therefore your not using much FOOT Brake @ all. I like allot of gear ⚙️ it helps me with how I drive allot guys are under gear and still have lots of pull even at the end of the straights so many because of that over drive the entries.. make sure your not leaving any ENGINE Power out there on the track get it geared as close to the track as u can and that will help u allot. IMO
Good luck and continue to learn your skills and you will master driving.
16:04 It clicked for me. I know the difference between drive and momentum. But how to apply it to the car and what I need out of it at a given spot on the track, that's where it got confusing. Wasn't exactly sure which driving style I was trying to accomplish. It seems like a simple idea but this will help me a lot. Thanks Jay!
You are welcome, I hope it helps.
I appreciate your videos, subscribed and shared, thanks for sharing your knowledge!!!
Welcome!
Jay- I've been having issue with my rf shock I feel as if it didn't have enough rebound. When I get on the gas the rf lifts up instead of pinning down. I felt as if my rf was moving through the spring too fast kind of like a spring board on the rf. You've been working with my shock guy, Guy Sutton 3 daughters racing. He's contributed greatly to my program.
Yes, you need better or more rebound, it needs to control your springs.
@@jaynealgofast I sent him exactly what I was looking for around 300# at 0 with a digressive curve to about 600#
A mod spring in front 230/250 shaft down in Nevada
Thanks keep doing good work.
thanks again for the insight
Any time!
13” 225 rr spring on top - IN SD
Thanks
i made it to the end, is that spring going to be sold with one of your packages
It can if you like it, it dose make feel.
Good info. I could see the benefits of the th on the RR
Thanks
Always intrigued by the information you put out. It stimulates thought. Correct thought makes one fast. I made it to the end of the video. I need to know. I'm processing how to apply your tech to a "Hobby" class (south Texas). There is only so much "adjustment" we can do. I'm always looking out for your next video...keep em coming. Thanks
Glad it was helpful! Thank You
He made it look so easy
Made it to the end. Nothing is as well made as it was 20-30-40 years. Even the people.
Well said
Omg $50 shock claimer rule where the F are u getting a shock for $50 Im guessing Autozone stock / stock / stock type shock 🤦🏼 yikes. Atleast let em run a AK series Bilstein shock as they are $89-100.. No wonder why these dirt Hobbys handle like 💩
Yes the claim could be higher.
Made it to the end as usual. Great info as always. About to pull the trigger on some springs so I can get my IStock on the ground. You are providing me info to make an educated choice. Thanks for sharing.
Glad to help, thank you.
Made to the end. Thanks for your time I appreciate it
Thanks for watching.
This is great information. We are trying to put a southwest sport mod together. We will be in contact with you on getting springs for it when we get closer closer. I just subscribed aswell. And we made the complete video aswell. God bless you to sir.
Thank you and hope to work with you in the future.
@@jaynealgofast we will be in contact with you soon
I made it of course.
Thank you so much.
Do some asphalt info shows to ..
I will try.
Made it! Looking forward to next video
We are working on it.
I run a factory stock in Illinois.(ump) both springs are center. My chassis builder is very adamant about running a 13” (250) in the LR and 11”in the RR (200) I’m struggling with it bad super tight in the middle (like trying to turn the dump truck in wet sand)on the brakes, throttle brakes throttle I know I’m completely upsetting the car, but I cannot get through any other way. but he seems the think I’m over driving it in..I can’t wait for you to get the mapping video done because I’ll waiting to watch it.. I do appreciate you taking the time to do these videos it does help!!
We are working on that now, if you reduce the LR load (250 spring) down it should help with the push. Also increase rebound RF.
made it to the end. Your videos are always worth watching all the way through! thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I appreciate that!
Made it to the end of the video... Thank you Jay for all your videos.. There always seems to be a learning take away in every video.
I appreciate that!
Wow, good information and yes, I made it to the end.....
Awesome! Thank you!
Made it to the end! Thanks Jay
Thank and good luck this weekend
I made it! lol. Another video packed with awesome info! Thanks for taking the time to make these videos Mr Jay. Looking forward to the rest of the videos about track sections.
Awesome! Thank you!
Made it to the end
Great job