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Hey! yeah I'd be happy to help. in fact your question is easy to answer, it's a matter of timing, and in the case of what you're describing you are experiencing the fact that E1 being canceled means if you have begun to move towards the wall any cc will cancel the movement. But if you are cc'd before your E1 projectile hits the wall then you will upon the E1 hitting the wall you will still pull to the wall. It doesn't matter what kind of CC you are hit by but just when you're hit relative to the E1 connecting

@@Hail_Fire Thanks for the reply. But I vividly remember that my E did not hit the wall yet. Went something like Renekton E'd me > I cast E > Renekton W'd me while E still travelling to wall > E disappeared completely. I did not expect this too as I heard Cam E will buffer through CC. Looked it up on Wiki and they had this explanation: Camille will be  knocked down by any  immobilizing or  polymorphing crowd control, excluding  sleep(bug), during the dash. So I'm quite confused too. What are your experience with this? Should have recorded it..

@@BamItsHazel while the answer there on the wiki might seem confusing the key section is "During the dash"

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@@Hail_Fire Ah, I guess I did mistime it then and was already flying to the wall. Thanks :)

I have been doing my best to work on ways I can improve the audio quality. I had avoided actually doing Audio voiceovers for several years due to my dislike of the quality, but I am making some investments in things like pop filters, and also refining my recording process to improve that quality. I will say while I at times did keep my mic lower to prevent breathing from being picked up, you may have your audio a bit lower than normal since I also use an audio booster tool, and I only need it on really really quiet videos, so if you're having to use it on a lot that might be a sign of your own settings being too low. In response to your notes on the discussion: For the first comment, You're right, and standing behind your minions is the most effective way to avoid that mixup scenario entirely and this is why I said good players what they do is they reduce the frequency of how often they are put into these situations. A quick side note before the second comment, while you're right about standing behind your minions, that would not be the case if you were playing Sivir. Because as Sivir, you want Blitz to use his Q on you as once he has you and your support are both able to act without concern of if he is going to try to hook one of you suddenly. The way that you do this safely is by posturing such that you have a long and clear sightline to where you expect the skill shot to be fired from (preferably you want to see the enemy using the ability so you can look at their model and watch for the animation of the spell being cast rather than waiting to react to the projectile itself. For the second comment, I find that one thing I've gotten very accustomed to is discerning the quality of a player based on their character control and the degree of presence they exert in a lane or the game. I can perceive from where a player is moving the way, and how they play around spacing, or when and how they use their spells if this is a player I need to be aware of it. I tend to if a player fails to show any of the typical indicators of real mechanical prowess then I actually for the most part disregard them, which means I just apply standard spacing and safety measures, but I won't be thinking about how are they going to look to get me. The main advantage of high ranks is mostly that you can yes sometimes recognize names, but even in the ranks like Emerald where this is still not a super common occurrence, you can at least see the clear signs of when a player is someone who is mechanically capable. Here are a couple clips from Bwipo talking about this same thing that occurs in pro th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxqs4_vh5bYY9UDtby4sPiMFL0N0Fcd5G_?si=84aNFCa8i4yBc6EI th-cam.com/users/clipUgkx0dboF-TbzzMZul36s5OSHvLj-IjavMcj?si=pSJS6R1J2hClJFVL th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxCSRqkYka1KidjWNmdvuugHKkSVt4vaG-?si=fIQOf1TTzfoXZPhC Overall my channel is focused on League in all contexts, be it the conceptual and theory of it, analyzing gameplay, talking through how it relates to life, or seeing how it affects us psychologically as players.

I appreciate it, I'd love to know which aspects you enjoyed most, was it the discussion of morality, league of legends, or something else? I ask because this type of video was pretty outside my normal style I honestly rarely do commentary but I'm trying to get used to including it, so any feedback is really useful for me as I work on improving at this.

@@Hail_Fire I am interested in League and TFT

Oh yeah, 100% agree fully, I found that these days I mostly play Kayle but I still get my games of Camille in there from time to time. Over this period of me really focusing on Kayle I've been forced to deal with the emotional challenge of after a setback not letting myself feel such a blow to my ego that I don't just give up on the champion. For example with Kayle, I actually was 10 W and 1 loss at one point, and then I had a 0/3 block and I felt this very potent blow in my ego regarding its desire to want to throw out Kayle like a broken toy.

Kayle might be hard after LT removal, but everything is possible^^ That is exactly how i was feeling. It helped me to push my ego aside and focus more on the game and little things instead of always playing perfect, that helped me to see things i didnt want to see. I hope you can improve and overcome that phase.

@@baumbaum637 I never run LT personally, I honestly feel great these days. My connection with Kayle and my feeling that I am able to know what I want to do to win the game lets me feel confident and also allows me to endure even the hardest games.

Thats nice to hear, that you find a champion youre confidenr on. I wish you good luck on your climb, improving and overcoming difficult games and times.

I want to say by the way, thank you for your continued support over this whole year I've been making content. I honestly don't think I'd have been able to do it without people like yourself who take the time to show appreciation to small scale content creators who it means a great deal too

@@Hail_Fire I came for the Camille content, but stayed for the lovely personality that came with it! I can't say one way or another whether or not you'll make it big, since luck is a huge factor in that regard, but I can I promise that I look forward to your videos, and I'm always excited to see a new one <3

​@@Camiddle I mean my aim never has been trying to make it big, My content tends to fall into two types, there is content that is structured and prepared, such as my Camille guides or my tips and tricks videos, these are things I put a lot of effort into trying to make sure are compact and informative so that the viewer is able to learn something they may have not known before watching that video; my other type of content is videos such as this one here, and these are done in an attempt for me to get better at making videos in general. Recently I have begun to try including audio commentary in my videos, since for a long time I avoided doing so because in the past I felt like I didn't like how much my mic would pick up my breathing or background noise. I am now trying to see if I can either through editing or improving my recording setup eliminate this issue as I actually am someone who really loves talking about the things I am interested in. I don't know if you watched my video on "Finesse and Morality" but that's an example of what I would really love to make more of. I will say that what I used to struggle with a lot was when I was starting out and I'd make the first kind of content (The structured and time consuming videos) I would be often unsure whether it was worth me having made them based on the level of engagement or response they got. I mean is it worth spending a year on a video that gets 200 views? Previous I would have said, "I don't really know if that is worth it" But thankfully now I have come to a point of understanding that I have things I am able to do and that I control which are directly related to how my content will be engaged with such as things like "Creating My Video Thumbnails", "Keeping My Titles Clean", "Writing Descriptions", and making an effort to share the videos I make with others who might be interested. Just today, I got my Camille Mechanics Guide added to the Subreddit side bar after I made it 199 days ago. I had thought I wouldn't be able to do so because I got IP banned on Reddit a year ago. My E guide was in the sidebar and I'm very positive that is why my Camille E guide has been my most successful video to this day. The only reason that it took this long is I had been telling myself that I wouldn't be able to rather than just asking on the discord server if it was possible

@@Hail_Fire that's a lovely mentality to have c:

I haven't been playing a lot of Camille Lately, but I've been locked in on my picking Kayle back up. I want to get some Camille games in though, and I'll upload one here if I get one.

@@Hail_Fire No pressure! While Camille is by far my favourite/best champion, it's always fun watching gameplay from your perspective regardless of who you're playing! :D

Hehe, I'm glad you liked it. I do find that trick is very useful if you can get creative with it.

Shen's E dash has an Edge Range of 60 and Camille's E has a centered range of 130. Both champions have gameplay radii of 65. Camille can hit her E because 65 + 65 = 130 before Shen hits his E since its range is 60.

@@Hail_Fire alright so just like the video says, camille wins if we are smacking into each other straight on?

I am glad that you enjoyed it and found it helpful! I couldn't have done it without the support of comments like these

i have also had a few times that tricked saved me or let me outplay a fight

I hope that you learned something new from it, Thanks for watching!

I’m glad you liked it!

I really appreciate your continued support. it means a great deal to me, and it helped me get this guide finally put together. I have wanted to do this for the better part of 2 years so having it finally made is honestly kind of surreal. I am glad that even with 2 million mastery there was still at least something I was able to help you take away from this guide. I'd love to hear more about your journey as Camille Mid, I've actually begun to play her there myself. What is your summoner name? I'd really like to analyze your style and setups you use into various matchups

So I can share a bit about this, there are multiple reasons why you might be having problems but the most likely cause is you're just not inputing the E2 fast enough. I personally prefer to use a movement command or an attack command, and I just input my flash immediately followed by clicking on my target. If done right you can reach a target up to the very edge of your vision range

With E I think that you can yes, but just make sure you don't try to R Warwick R or it will always catch you

Glad you enjoyed!

I’m really touched to hear you say that, Honestly this game was some of my more raw footage where I didn’t do anything for the clipping or adding notes on my thoughts. If you want to see an example of me doing a high effort video then I’d love to hear your thoughts on my recent Syndra video, also that game was a really insane one where I was into Evelynn Malzahar and Eve tried to assassinate me 14 times. In that video if you check the description you can see my full breakdown of my thoughts and mistakes I noticed myself making. If you want I’d love to know what kind of content you’d be most interested in seeing? Raw gameplay footage, Highly trimmed down moments where important events happened, videos where I go into my thoughts in the description, or my videos which are informational and cover either gameplay concepts or champion details

Thank you, I was very happy with that one

I really appreciate you saying that and honestly, it gives me a bit of spark to keep working on my next video. I really intended it to be done by now, but I have a very busy personal and professional life that when I’ve left with the decision of where should I focus my efforts I don't give my editing as much time as I’d like. But thank you again its things like this that actually give me the drive to take that time to work on making something new for all of you who take the time to say kind things and show your support; It may be only a moment of your time, but it means the world to me.

If I had to be honest I think that if you're struggling with playing top lane out of feelings of fear you'll likely have a very difficult journey on Camille as she is a champion who has to be played with a strong sense of confidence in high-pressure situations. Her Fast E off the wall is core to determining how playable some matchups are.

To answer your question though, Full damage if you're going midlane. You want to be able to kill your enemy laner when they misplay or you can pick them using vision

I recently actually transitioned to play Camille Mid so I might make a guide for how my gameplay style has changed for the new role

Thank you, I really appreciate you saying that and it's because of all the supportive comments I've seen recently that I just finished recording footage for the next video I'll be releasing. Again I greatly appreciate you taking the time to show that you enjoy the video.

Update I just finished gathering 80 different recordings for my next video. Thanks again for your words of encouragement. It helped a lot to get through rounding up all the material I would need for this.

I would be happy too. you can message me at my discord Hail~Fire#2842

It makes me really happy to see this comment, and I'm happy to say it got me back into practice tool recording footage for my next video. Currently, I'm planning to do a video covering the mechanics of Camille's other abilities. Still, I am also interested in what else you would be interested in seeing since I am very well-versed in many champions.

Update I just finished gathering 80 different recordings for my next video. Thanks again for your words of encouragement. It helped a lot to get through rounding up all the material I would need for this.

Thank you :) I really appreciate you taking the time to let me know you enjoyed it

I started working on the other abilities again thanks to your comment, so I do appreciate you taking the time to do that

Camille wins, although if the timing is just right, they will tie.

@@Hail_Fire I usually e away so that the hook pulls me out of the stun. But I've never tried to wall dive into urgot dash

@@beng2080 yeah I know what you mean it's actually quite intimidating to dash into these other abilities, but you just have to learn which ones you have priority over. That's why I included that section

Glad you enjoyed it