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there is and its right under the gray covers on the side of the drawers but nobody knows that lol

I have no idea if there is an age limit or if high school diploma is required. If I were to guess I would say no to both of those just because they probably won't have a way of checking for an online course.

ok thank you@@gnarrdog

If your taking s130 from a college or something they most likely will allow you to take it.

Thanks for watching. I don't think I saved much if anything but I believe that this would have been at the low end of what an individual would sell it for at the time. I think a realistic goal going into these auctions is to get something at the bottom of a the curve rather than significantly below market.

Copy paste from the Park Service Website: Incident Qualifications The Incident Qualification Card, commonly called a Red Card, is an accepted interagency certification that a person is qualified to do the required job when arriving on an incident. The National Wildfire Coordinating Group sets minimum training, experience, and physical fitness standards for wildland fire positions. Incident Qualification Cards are issued to individuals who successfully complete the required training, experience, and physical fitness (work capacity) test by the firefighting agencies that are members of the National Wildfire Coordinating Group. In place of Incident Qualification Cards, local and rural firefighting agencies may issue letters of certification stating that the individuals have met the appropriate physical fitness, experience, and training standards. Obtaining a Qualifications Card If you do not have an Incident Qualification Card (Red Card), there are several steps to go through: Discuss your interest in fire with your immediate supervisor to obtain permission to pursue the training and other requirements, as well as go on incidents (many incidents are during the summer when visitor traffic to parks is at its peak). Speak with, or have your supervisor speak with, the fire management officer (FMO) at your park about your interest. If your park is small, it may not have a full-time FMO. In this case you would typically speak to a collateral-duty FMO, as well as your regional fire management officer. See what trainings are necessary in your area of interest; some may be web-based self-study courses that may be completed at your home unit. The Wildland and Prescribed Fire Qualification Guide (310-1) is the main source for the requirements for various positions. Work with your local Incident Qualifications and Certification System (IQCS) account manager to make sure your training and qualifications information is up-to-date and accurate so they can print you an Incident Qualification Card (Red Card).

I didn't need one for buying a single vehicle for myself. Not sure what the rules are if you are doing something else like buying multiple cars for a dealership.

It is odd that they could never find it. There are some weird things that happen in the application process that is certain.

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Search on USAjobs.gov but you might not find much because February is pretty late to be looking for the season. Jobs apps typically for the next fire season can open anywhere from mid August to mid December and stay open from maybe two weeks to a month. Most people start as seasonals. Much of the federal wildland firefighting workforce is seasonal. You can check what opportunities your state or county has.

What specifically did you apply for? With BLM or USFS or NPS or other?

If you make it through the screening system and are referrered to the hiring managers you will get an email. If you are not referred you will also get an email. If the hiring managers decide to hire you, you may get an interest call and finally a job offer. If they decide not to hire you, you might not get an email until a year later when they are clearing out back logs. This is for the federal land management agencies.

I think they have some, but that's not what makes them unique. It's their material. They're made of kevlar.

I have seen contract crews which are largely spanish speaking. Also some federal firefighters speak Spanish with their families.

Glad to hear someone got something out of it.

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Sure thing. Hopefully you get in this year. I can give you my email if you want me to look over your resume.

It literally seems to change every year.

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EMT would be good. As far as relevant classes the corps could pay for I can't think of any besides EMT and whatever medical training you can get. As a veteran you will have veterans preference and be able to get on a shot crew your first season in fire most likely and even more so if you are an EMT. However you might have an easier transition to the fire culture if you start out on a vet crew where you will be able to learn about fire while working with other veterans. I know Aravaipa Hotshots ( blm.gov/arizona/fire/aravaipa-crew ) are a predominantly veteran crew. They have a good reputation. There is also Folsom Lake Hotshots that I don't know anything about ( www.nifc.gov/about-us/our-partners/blm/crews/folsom-lake-veterans-crew ). And there are handcrews as well: ( blm.gov/careers/veterans/veteran-fire-crews ). I get the impression that there are vets crews that get stuck doing a lot of fuels and project work. The hotshot crews won't be like that but with other crews you will want to be sure of what type of outfit you are signing up with. My additional piece of advice is that you will want to be a strong hiker.

It's holding up great. It's at 60,000 miles now so I've put 22,000 on with a year of ownership. No repairs required yet and it has been 100% reliable. My only issues have been looks. The paint is faded on hood and rubber moulding is dried out and susceptible to cracking. Easy fixes.

That would definitely help. Exactly the sort of experience they are looking for especially if you get good references from your time in the CCC

@@gnarrdog but the The qualification that you were talking about can I still get them through the CCC

@@jaheenbrasko1755 I have no idea. But most programs should be willing to give you the trainings I was talking about after you get hired. Some won't some will. Sort of a complicated subject because it can go either way.

FEMA is where to begin with your courses online I think

No just apply for entry level wildland jobs. If you apply for entry level jobs they should train you when you start.

There are full time positions in Florida as well so that is an option and having wildland fire experience in the south would definitely help you. Yes having both your EMT and being a veteran combined will make you a top candidate. On top of which Veterans Preference applies to most government jobs. I would say you could even apply to a hotshot crew your first season provided you consider yourself a good hiker. That's always a stretch first season but if you make some calls you could get it done. I would say that getting on a contractor out west wouldn't buy you anything over volunteering on the wildland crew in Florida and since you are already in Florida that might be easier for you this year. Firefighting experience in Florida is relevant and respected out West from what I have heard. Most fed fire jobs will be closed in March but you could look. Also there is such a thing as state crews and those may have positions open still but I don't know what the application process is although they can have a bit more flexibility with hiring. There is a state Hotshot crew in Utah called Alta Hotshots that you might try. Look for other state (Department of Natural Resources etc.) fire programs that still might be hiring if you are determined on getting out west this summer. Another thing to consider is that many wildland fire federal and state crews travel across the whole country as needed so even if you worked in Florida you could get on a crew that leaves the state frequently depending on the type of crew.

@@gnarrdog Dang man. This is the best, most detailed and applicable answer to my situation that I’ve gotten across Reddit, FB and Google. Thank you SO much. I will definitely take this advice and see what I can make happen, if not this summer, then I will be even better prepared with more experience for next. Hotshot would be the best case scenario as far as where I’d like to be, and seems most secure career and long term benefit wise. Thank you again man!

@@ajw8226 Sure thing! Heads up though it will probably take a few seasons to get a permanent position. You won't have any benefits with the feds whatsoever until you get a perm. Moving up in wildland fire tends to be very slow. Also it's a great job but it has very poor work life balance so many people find it doesn't work out as a career for them. Think six months of only working and not being home followed by six months of being unemployed/finding ways to keep busy. I don't want to discourage anyone but it is a very rough job on your personal life. I have seen a lot of people leave for more stability. So it's great that you have skills already to fall back on if it doesn't suit you. But the nice thing is you can be a seasonal for six months and if you don't like then you found out in six months and can do something else. Hotshotting is a good way to gain a lot of fire experience. But being on an engine, helitak, handcrew anything really will help you learn and often provide more abundant training opportunities to newer people than hotshot crews. Hotshot crews will provided new people with lots of knowledge training and practical training but career wise with certs and everything those opportunities are not abundant on IHC crews for new people. Not saying one is better just things to consider. Having made those points I have been on an IHC crew the past four seasons and my personal bias is that being a hotshot is where it's at for learning about fire and how to be an effective wildland firefighter.

I’m in the same place location wise and being late to the tee for hiring. Why do you say being on a contractor crew won’t get you anything vs staying in Florida and joining the wildland crew here? I was planning on going out to Montana anyways this summer in my camper van and just stumbled across wildland firefighting and that’s what I want to do. Most people on reddit are telling me to try Rocky Mountain Fire Co or grayback or another state like Washington/Oregon. What would you suggest contractor crew in the state I want to be in or a different state this year but fed job. My initial feeling is to just pack up right now head to Montana and start going and try to find a job that way in person.

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Glad it helped. No fire experience required if you apply to the entry level positions which will usually be gs-3 or preferably gs-4 pay grade as of 2022. Things might change up in the future. Look for engine, hand crews (type 2) some others depending. Be aware that if you are not checking the right or enough boxes on the USA Jobs questionaire your app can be filtered out before it reaches a person. So for example if there is a box to check that is asking if you have used a shovel and somehow you have never used a shovel think really really hard before not checking that box because maybe you can remember a time when you did.