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Why there are now ZERO British pro teams... | Monument Cycling Podcast Ep. 6
Harry and Owen catch up on all the recent British cycling news from the past few weeks including Saint Piran's inevitable collapse, rider transfers, and the build-up towards the CX national champs.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Intro
01:16 - Saint Piran's Inevitable Collapse
08:10 - The Tanfield Brothers
11:50 - 2025 National Series' Calendars
25:28 - Olly Moors to DAS - Hutchinson - Brother UK
27:38 - Max Stedman Retires
30:40 - Cyclo-Cross National Champs Build-up
44:30 - Pogacar's New Colnago Whip
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  • @3pan1
    @3pan1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lieve Cat,

  • @Tarmaccyclocross
    @Tarmaccyclocross 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just more junk

    • @zen37585
      @zen37585 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is fax

  • @Alimukz
    @Alimukz 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why do TT saddles look like that?

  • @DicconHill
    @DicconHill 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well, I've got the saddle.

  • @scottmalone2332
    @scottmalone2332 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh man. Colnago used to make works of art in the 90's. Today's bikes may be lighter but they are ugly.

  • @jazzensemble
    @jazzensemble 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Restricting freedom of what can be done on a bike restricts creativity.

  • @YarPortfolio
    @YarPortfolio 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cannondale slice RS

  • @alastairmerrill9349
    @alastairmerrill9349 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A good indicator of the difference between world tour riders and the UK's best domestic hill climbers is the Monsal Head hill climb organised each year by Sheffrec CC. The course record of 1 minute 14 seconds was set back in 1981 (!!) by Malcolm Elliot, a British world tour sprinter (or whatever the equivalent was back then for the top tier of continental racing). Being such a short climb, it favours absolute rather than relative power, and Malcolm would certainly not be considered a climber. Same for Chris Boardman, definitely not a 'climber' in the pro peloton, but still as you note a National Hill Climb Champion. Harry Mac, Andrew Feather, Tom Bell, Ed Laverack (all National Hill Climb champions) et al are all phenomenal athletes, but I think they'd be the first to admit that they'd be no match for today's world tour galacticos like Pogacar and Vingegaard on any climb.

  • @chokehanson1830
    @chokehanson1830 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    SP seem to have had 'issues' & 'disagreements' with several kit & equipment suppliers over the years. I wonder why it was only them & not other teams.

  • @nickw6175
    @nickw6175 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    closed roavd racing anyone ? apart from a ever diminishing number of crits, why is there no safe closed road events, no closed rolling road block sportives? opprortunites to watch limited no spectators = no sponsers, BC needs to engage with venues such as race tracks, race courses and others and open up racing.

  • @cervelo9465
    @cervelo9465 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tom Pidcock needs to leave Ineos ... Ineos is a sinking ship.

  • @Tarmaccyclocross
    @Tarmaccyclocross 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gone I hope 🤣🤣🤣

  • @LittleBU96
    @LittleBU96 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @stevegriffiths605
    @stevegriffiths605 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well we only have to look at what happened to Sir Brad and his passion to put something back into cycling and youth development. Maybe do what the Premier league football teams have done and get the other Emirate regions to sponsor? It’s worked for UAE….

    • @petegarnett7731
      @petegarnett7731 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They already own half the western world. Do you really believe that is a good move?

  • @jmaxson150
    @jmaxson150 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pros should be helping/paying back these smaller devo teams. If it wasn't for these teams a lot of pro riders would not get to where they are.

  • @Andy_ATB
    @Andy_ATB 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They'll likely be a quasi Specialized Factory XC devo team. And have already provided Blevins & Batten to them. Blevins actually won an Elite World title for Trinity in 2021, the XCC title - and then a XCO World Cup in Snowshoe.

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This feels about right. One of the questions coming out of INEOS Grenadiers' dev team announcement was why not Trinity - a deal with Specialized could be the reason.

  • @martincove6054
    @martincove6054 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Saint Piran now too!😐

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup, it's such a shame!

    • @ChrisVeronica-u7w
      @ChrisVeronica-u7w 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@monument_hq f%$&ING devastated. Ricci won the 1st TT I ever rode. His dad helped organize every cycling event in C'wall for decades. 45years later ,back home from years away, they supported every person who rode or wished to ride a bike in !the Duchy. If true cyclists can be pushed out of the sport by the social media rumor mill, how can road cycling survive?

  • @typhoon3s943
    @typhoon3s943 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    British Cycling need a department of organisation efficiency 🙄

    • @JimMichael-c1q
      @JimMichael-c1q 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m sure Elon Musk is available to head that agency

    • @chokehanson1830
      @chokehanson1830 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In my opinion, and I'm likely to get flamed for it is that BC need to call it a day & start again, but properly. Instead of all the money going into the national squad & the elite scene maybe it should instead go back to developing & supporting the grass roots scene. No rider instantly becomes a 1st cat or elite cat racer, you start from the bottom & work your way up. I raced from the late 80's to the mid 00's & for some of those years did so as a 1st cat (for many years there was only 1st, 2nd & 3rd category - no elite or 4th cat) and for many years I could race every weekend from the end of Feb to Oct, sometimes 2 or 3 days a week during the summer when you factored in evening criterium racing. Where I'm going with this is that there was a definite pathway available even back then to riders to climb the scale & get noticed if they had the talent & ambition to perform at a pro level. That pathway just doesn't seem to exist anymore & the road scene has been on the bones of it's arse for many many years - but BC have turned a deaf ear & a blind eye to this & they've been the principle reason for its decline. Glad I did it when I did it though.

  • @Andy_ATB
    @Andy_ATB หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surely it's Charlie Aldridge.......

  • @trin08201
    @trin08201 หลายเดือนก่อน

    82 saroni

  • @StopTheRot
    @StopTheRot หลายเดือนก่อน

    I knew a uk pro that was 63kg and could put out 518 for 5 mins; 840 for 1 minute; 425 for 20 minutes. He’d easily have been able to do 600+ watts for 3 minutes, at 63kg. He didn’t get any higher than 6th GC in Langkawi and about 40th in Brabantse Pijl. People like Pogacar are utterly insane. As you implied, NO CHANCE!

  • @Milo_wills
    @Milo_wills หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tom Mein> cam mason

    • @sivelo5021
      @sivelo5021 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not based on results in Europe he’s not 🤷‍♂️

    • @johnterry5409
      @johnterry5409 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cam mason clear

    • @julianhowell6351
      @julianhowell6351 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And a great road season in Italy with Project 1, 4 podiums in a row? He’s wasting time winning Nat Trophies in the UK.

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In the past, that's certainly been the case, but this year has been really close - it'll be great to see them go head-to-head at the nationals!

  • @JHBEM
    @JHBEM หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is the money from Lloyd’s Bank going from Tour of Britain? Surely, it should be going into these grassroots races.

  • @erlendsteren9466
    @erlendsteren9466 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see Marc Cavendish in a hilllclimb. He is superstrong but carrys more heavy muscles than those who are climboptimized. He is able to put out extreme power after beeing a lot exhausted.

    • @StopTheRot
      @StopTheRot หลายเดือนก่อน

      His numbers have always been poor. I think his main strength is probably recovery from efforts.

    • @erlendsteren9466
      @erlendsteren9466 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@StopTheRot That and technique (and of course power and fastness), he looks like the best at aeroposition when sprinting standing, which dont help the most in climbs.

  • @TheTrev53
    @TheTrev53 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very misleading thumbnail. ALBA aren’t a pro team. Unless you’re earning a living you’re not pro and no Conti teams are

  • @lindabillett4535
    @lindabillett4535 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are right that for men the pathway to pro is now via European racing rather than domestic scene. Bravo to Cycling Sheffield - small team but took riders to several stage races in Europe - they showed themselves well & it paid dividends x 4 👍

  • @docdavo1
    @docdavo1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gents, I'd have to respectfully disagree with what you are saying - the women's Junior scene just doesn't exist in the UK, so the Junior girls step up from Youth (max 1hr races) to the Women's Elite road series (can you imagine many boys jump up to racing Lincoln GP at 16?). You have some absolute phenoms doing their thing, Cat, Imi, Lucy, Elidh ... but it's very much sink or swim for the GB&I juniors women, can they hack the jump from 1hr races to 3hr races - you are 100% reliant on the Junior teams like Shibden and Toufauti racing nations cup races (abroad) for the girls to get them the incremental developments that they need - If they are lucky they will get a second bite of the cherry with someone like Alba in the UK if haven't made a European U23 Devo team.

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's fair. I think both Harry and I are happier with the teams on offer rather than the races (between youth and elite), where there's definitely more to be desired! The strength of teams is a really positive development in recent years, but my time on the Road Commission showed how tough it is to fill the gaps in development opportunities for junior women with those races that bridge the gap between circuit and road racing. To be honest, it would probably take a whole episode to unpack the junior women's scene, so that may be something we talk about in a future episode! I've got a few guests in mind who could speak more knowledgeably on it than me as well 😆 ^Owen

    • @martinashwell
      @martinashwell หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely agree with the step up comment. Women’s cycling in general has come a long way in recent years with a lot of really talented riders. Having an U23 level would improve things further.

    • @docdavo1
      @docdavo1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@martinashwell Having more than 2 dedicated Junior women's races in the UK would be something...

  • @stevenfreeman7798
    @stevenfreeman7798 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was a super short course though! Feather or Ed need longer course. Harry still brilliant though well deserved win

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq หลายเดือนก่อน

      True! Harry definitely has that short duration power that comes through on the crit scene as well.

  • @FaiscaaaH
    @FaiscaaaH หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you guys serious ?? LOOOL !!!!!!

  • @irvynn9910
    @irvynn9910 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why only 4 comments

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your guess is as good as mine! 😅

    • @duttyvegan
      @duttyvegan 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great sport but more needs to be done, need more coverage like this 👍🏾

  • @Eirikkinserdal
    @Eirikkinserdal หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pog can do this at the end of a 250km race 😅

  • @Marltiod
    @Marltiod หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pogacar did 7w/kg for 40 minutes on Plateau de Beille in the third week of the tour. I think you would be stunned how easy he would beat the other guy.

  • @alesslapar6321
    @alesslapar6321 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this a joke😂. Harry Mas.😂

  • @josephdanner773
    @josephdanner773 หลายเดือนก่อน

    World tour guys would cook them. MvDP did 560w for almost 6 min. Safe to say he could hit 100w more for 2 min

  • @GaiusPrimusMatius
    @GaiusPrimusMatius หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content guys 😊....u've earned a new supporter😊.... cheers from Piran(Slovenia)👏🙏🐐🌈👍✌️👽🔥💪🇸🇮🇬🇧

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks very much for watching! 🙏

  • @colmsheahan6991
    @colmsheahan6991 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dunno lads, I'd say at world tour level there'd be 70kg guys that'd annihilate that guy!?

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, there would be a fair few riders who would beat Harry, but there are a surprising number who wouldn't. People seem to think that being in the WorldTour instantly makes a rider better at every single aspect of riding, but that's not really the case - hence where this fun little conversation came from. ^Owen

    • @colmsheahan6991
      @colmsheahan6991 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @monument_hq absolutely. What would be interesting is to give both the same goal for 6weeks. Which is a fresh short uphill TT. Be interesting to see how many he'd beat then. The world tour lads would have to eat Harry's diet though. Let's keep this fair!!

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@colmsheahan6991 I love the sound of this! Though I fear Harry's diet is his secret weapon 😆😆

  • @bbikerlawrence
    @bbikerlawrence หลายเดือนก่อน

    Harry Mac the goat 🎉

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% 👑

  • @derekevans1932
    @derekevans1932 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A good comparison maybe with Ed Laverack who does more longer climbs. On Sa Colabra 10.27km Tom Pidcock has KOM 25:32 with Ed at 26:45 (very similar power). But Illi Gardner is the QOM at 31:09 - on published Strava so there could be a number that are not public. Ed has said that he is not doing the Hill Climb Champs in 2025, but he did win it in 2019? - maybe he is the only other person to have beaten Andrew Feather in recent years?

  • @Aidan-tu4un
    @Aidan-tu4un หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good memory… CB “As a senior he won four consecutive hill climb championships (from 1988 to 1991)”

  • @bitchoflivingblah
    @bitchoflivingblah หลายเดือนก่อน

    Comparisons aside (pros vrs amateurs), the day out on Hill Climbing Champioships watching and cheering on the competitors and heck even giving it a go is one of the best experiences if you love cycling.

  • @carlrichards9333
    @carlrichards9333 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The subject is wasted conversation......and to ask it means these guys just don't realize how good Pogocar is, its another level lads....

    • @FullBeansCyclingCompany
      @FullBeansCyclingCompany หลายเดือนก่อน

      We made it pretty clear that Pogacar would smoke anyone up any length of climb in the UK

    • @carlrichards9333
      @carlrichards9333 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you need to change the title of the link...​@@FullBeansCyclingCompany

  • @mattgilmour9761
    @mattgilmour9761 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Harry Mac to World Tour, Here We Go??

  • @boniverify
    @boniverify หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't get me wrong, the top hill climb riders are super strong, but there are many world tour riders who would beat them easily. For example, Victor Campenaerts does 2 min intervals at 670w (almost 10 w/kg) in training. Everything that is longer than 1 or maybe 2 minutes is extremely strongly correlated with FTP.

    • @derekvanhoose6815
      @derekvanhoose6815 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Easily"...doubtful. What separates World Tour is they can do around 600 watts for 3 minutes at the end of a 100+ mile race/stage. Just because they can do that doesn't mean they can do much more fresh.

    • @boniverify
      @boniverify หลายเดือนก่อน

      @derekvanhoose6815 I don't disagree. Our disagreement probably only stems from my use of "easily". With that I just mean that for many world tour riders this would not be a PR effort, but for sure such an effort hurts like hell, even for Pogi.

    • @joeskipper91
      @joeskipper91 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does he really do intervals at that high a power output?

    • @SanderMichiels
      @SanderMichiels หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@joeskipper91 Yeah, he talked about them in a video on his channel. 3x 2min: 1st @ 670w, 2nd @ 630w, 3rd @ 600w (he was about 68kg that time normally.)(th-cam.com/video/NYvrxt6xXLw/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=VictorCampenaerts)

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq หลายเดือนก่อน

      Joe! Thanks for tuning in. I used to race against you way back at Hog Hill - it's great to see you absolutely smashing the triathlon scene nowadays 🙌 ^Owen

  • @musclelessfitness2045
    @musclelessfitness2045 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice podcast I didn't know about. However, let's not compare hill climbers to those dopers at the world tour lol

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the kind words 🙏 I think we definitely prefer the authenticity of the hill climbing scene!

    • @chivacetana
      @chivacetana หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@monument_hqquick tip. You want to get the American watch you should touch on gravel also

  • @FullBeansCyclingCompany
    @FullBeansCyclingCompany หลายเดือนก่อน

    My money is on Harry Mac 💰💸

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣🤣

  • @nielskjr5432
    @nielskjr5432 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really hope she'll fit well into the Movistar team👍

  • @TESTA-CC
    @TESTA-CC หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally don't blame SP at all if they choose to buy bikes from else where, cycling is expensive. The UCI are just as bad and set no example to follow by unfortunately. As long as the bikes are above 6.8KG in weight which is the UCI race limit, then No Problems here im all for cheaper cycling, and getting younger talent into the sport. Not everyone can afford a 15k uci legal race bike.

  • @patrickhaarhues2870
    @patrickhaarhues2870 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Come on. Are we really going to get upset over fake UCI stickers? Many pro cycling governing boards allow women with penises to compete against women without penises. Seems like we need to step back and fix more than the stickers.

    • @FullBeansCyclingCompany
      @FullBeansCyclingCompany หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are we? Yes. Regulation is there and agreed to when you set up a team, everyone else has to abide by the same rules. There’s plenty to criticise the UCI over but this isn’t one. The transphobia isn’t needed or wanted, thanks.

    • @patrickhaarhues2870
      @patrickhaarhues2870 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FullBeansCyclingCompany transphobia my butt. Agree UCI correct for this. It’s sarcasm friend. Didn’t mean to hit a nerve. Men participating in women’s sports is also an important issue. Not transphobic at all.

  • @QuirkyAvik
    @QuirkyAvik หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are telling me those chicken legs can push a 62T, are you a terminator?

  • @Gkam84
    @Gkam84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The UCI are investigating, not because they were used on the British "Elite" scene, they were also used at UCI races on the continent. This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to this team.... I'm hoping the journalist follows up other lines of enquiry. I think you need to realise, it is NOT on teams to get bikes UCI certified, it's down to manufacturers to have the bikes they want used in UCI races certified. It does not cost the teams any money for this.

    • @monument_hq
      @monument_hq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely, definitely not the end of the story! The references to teams and their funding was to do with Ribble and when they started racing a few years ago; getting their bikes certified was a large logistical challenge for the team and them! Sorry for the confusion

    • @Gkam84
      @Gkam84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@monument_hq Having been involved in a couple of certifications, it can be logistically challenging, but that is mostly down to the factor documentation. If the factory has the paperwork together, submitting that and a fee, which was around £2000 at the time is simple enough. (Per mould/design) It's not overly expensive if you are mass-manufacturing frames. Regarding the SP story, they need to talk to staff from previous seasons. Lots will come to light. I don't want to say much publicly, but many things will come out in the wash.