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@chriswalden6519 it's my honest view and I don't think anything I said on it was unfair. I was actually excited to recipe the bike as i thought I'd bought an upgrade. Still disappointed with the bike tbh. 🙂

@michellebrown6824 for the record it's just the background noise channel u didn't lower enough. I do agree should be lower and usually is. 🙂

@fastandyc my point is simply that when they claim it's more powerful, it shouldn't be slower then the original. And of course torque and speed are related as they require different gearing.

@noob-ebike-guy it's the same 350watt motor just geared to produce more torque

@fastandyc maybe/maybe not. That's a small fraction of my point. They've packaged the bike as a shiny new upgrade. I'm inclined to think it's not as simple as you suggest. Can't fully say cos I don't know. But if you are right then Engwe have done nothing clever at all. The bike as standard uses 2/3 the motor standard power. With the other 3rd on the boost button. Yet despite using less of the power more often and the torque sensor, the battery still only manages the sane 30 mile to s charge. Also if you are right then that would indicate the new cargo bike they just brought out, will do a max of 15mph unlocked as they state that is 250w and 100nm 🙂

@noob-ebike-guy they've given it more torque, slightly better capacity battery, torque sensor, can't remember what else

@fastandyc battery is same 13ah as standard L20. Not sure it's an improvement. More an alternative. 🙂

@LJ2K2025 I'm not really sure about your claim. I mean it's not actually a direct rival to rhe Engine X. As it is £250 more expensive. It's £300 more then the Ep2 pro. It seems it was a rival to the Engine pro but the Engine pro is £50 cheaper rrp. Although the I7 pro has a bigger ah battery. I'm not sure why you say the best quality as doesn't look like it's built any different. Like sane design really. So what is it that makes you feel its better quality? Personally new used one so don't know, but couldn't recommend the I7 pro for purchase as just like the Engine pro, the motors make them illegal to use on public land in the UK 🙂

@noob-ebike-guy they're all illegal really, most the "250" Watts are actually more and unrestricted go over 25 mph, and everybody unlocks the throttle even though its illegal, most placrs the police don't care, so if I'm gonna spend over a grand for a bike i want 1 that atleast has the capability of going over 30mph with pedal assist and something powerful enough to fly up hills, 250 Watts don't cut it and being slower on the road is more dangerous than faster, as for vitilan I7 pro I'd say its most comparable with the Engine pro, but it's just faster and better in my opinion

@LJ2K2025 sounds the same speed to me lol. I get what you're saying, but I'm not responsible for knowing anything. Like Engwe say my Engine X is 250w. Very unlikely it isn't but I can physically show it's legal and the police would have to prove Engine lied. But yours they can legally just take. The going faster argument doesn't apply because legally you're only allowed to do 15.5mph. So again if mine was unrestricted it wouldn't be road legal. I k ow mine will do 27mph unlocked. 🙂

@noob-ebike-guy I've seen many reviews and comparisons and the vitilan is more torque, good for hills especially compared to all others in the same class and price range, as for legality, the police aren't gonna stop you unless you're riding reckless, if you're wearing a helmet and pedal at normal speed when they're there, they shouldn't bother you and if they try stop you, the speed helps getting away 😂

@LJ2K2025 I just feel that it just take one officer in a bad mood on the wrong day and your £1000+ ebike is gone. Then there is points on licence and a fine. O don't like putting my trust in not bumping into that officer. I mean on all honesty I posted my rife along 3 video, about how I completely disagree with the ebike rules. Personally opinion wise we seem similar. I mean who are you hurting rideming at 30mph (if the road is a 30? If you are sober and in control then it's not really unsafe. Definitely agree 80nm torque is far more helpful. The 20ah battery too (rather then 16ah on the engine pro) 🙂

@GregB-f1x that's how I feel at 15. Like I want cars to pass me as I know I must be bugging them. And I'm nervous when they stay behind me. Maybe all Ebikes should legally have to be registered to an owner. So a licence plate or something ((just to identify people who abuse the system). But keep the clarification the same. Not sure we should be allowed to go over 30mph on roads without a licence and test ect. But something needs to change. 🙂

@darrenguyatt6390 erm no I've put bigger discs on mine. From what I've seen alot use hydrolic calipers as a compromise. Engwe are incompetent af sometimes. Like it's clearly a lie as the engine pro has hydraulic brakes. Obviously it's electric so you would need levers that have the electrical wire roo and then they would need right connectors to plug into the controller. The good news is I'm not sure the 250w actually exists lol. I saw a comparison on here between a 750w ep2pro and a 250w engineX. Both bikes unlocked performed identically. The customer support can be a stressfull drawn out process though 🙂

@GarysE-BikeAdventures for £977 it is. But not for £1300. It's nowhere near £300 better then the standard L20. 🙂

@rfbarry if you watch my previous video, my comparison is actually against the Engine X and Ep2 pro. Basically I feel that it's save to assume that all Engwe 20x4 fat tire 250w ebikes use the same motor. Also I there is a comparison out there showing a 750w ep2 pro vs a 250w engine X. The guy unrestricted both and sis the same test and they both perform identical. So I doubt the 250w motor is actually 250w lol. The thing with a cadence sensor is it's best when going up hill for arguments sake. The motor wants to get that 15.5mph always so it pushes you lots when it's hard. I will try the low gears tomorrow and see. And if still no difference Engwe are getting another Email as if yours has a difference in modes then mine should or is broken. As far as the torque/speed compromise, I don't buy it. At 20mph it doesn't feel like the bike is working anywhere near straining itself and I feel the Engine X can probably do more then the 27. Also the way Engwe advertise this bike is by saying its 50nm. So it's kinda the same. They say the other 25nm comes from the boost button. On flat ground it definitely under performs. The cadence sensor always wants to get the 15.5mph. So your pedaling puts you at 16/17mph with little effort. I find on the boost I'm under 15 alot. I towed my trailer on Friday and it felt alot more work then on my Engine X. My trailer was heavier then normal but maybe 10/20kg max more. But when I'm 90kg and normally pull the trailer. The bike combined weight is nowhere near a 30% increase so the bike shouldn't have an issue with the 30% extra torque. The wing mirrors I have your issue. I see my arms through them lol. I've ordered more that I hope will be good under the bars but will let you know. I bought £4 ones that go under and have those on too atm and that works 🙂

A 200,000w hub motors shall “nominally” run at 250w “maximum” should I choose it to. Hence the L20 48v uses the 750w hub motor from the Engine Pro 😉

@@Hrossey That may be beyond the laws of physics!

@GregB-f1x thank you. That was my gaol from the start. I think all bikes should be reviewed from a customer stand point. Probably not helping my chance of companies sending me bikes to test but I'd rather be honest. 🙂

@mr_wildgoose I'm not sure I'm happy with them tbh. My arms block a large bit of my view. I've bought some round cheap £4 ones that are under the handlebars and see alot more through those really. I live in a flat so bike leans on my wall. So don't want mirrors that extend beyond the handlebars. 2 pairs are working OK. But still himting for a pair I'm fully happy with 🙂

@noob-ebike-guy I've ordered two of the longer flexi mirrors to fit onto the centre cross bar. Hopefully they should just be long enough to see arourd my arms. I'll let you know how I get on with them!

@mr_wildgoose fingers crossed they are. It's a pain cos I hate messing with them. I just want ones o put on and don't have to adjust every time I use my bike lol 🙂

@@noob-ebike-guy Those mirrors on a stalk were terrible - don't bother!

@mr_wildgoose my new ones came today. Will fit and try them under bars tomorrow lol 🙂

@nounou_bh92 not sure about your bike but I believe it's all programed into the controller and that dictates the functions of the computer thing. The L20 boost it either restricted to the legal 15.5mph limit or the max 20mph. The motor is definitely able to do more, but that would require a new controller and lcd. I know on my Engine X there is a setting to change max speed. So could actually reduce the 27mph that does 🙂

@Cryptogames16 I bought mine end.of last year. I have a review in the engine X on here. Mine unlocks and does 27mph. Throttle can easily be turned on too 🙂

@@noob-ebike-guy 🙏 thanks a lot man

@GregB-f1x I don't get it at all. I mean the fact is, I want a .manufactured ebike. I'm forced to buy Chinese and forced to choose from a smaller range due to ridiculous laws. I don't want to ride in an unsafe manner or put people at risk. I just want a strong reliable ebike that is going to get me where I need. Let's be real. Is there a person on the planet who can argue that any Engwe bike, is safer, better built, more useful, more dependable or anywhere near the range of say an Aniioki? Those things have awesome range, plenty of power to tackle hills. Dual motors, massive hydrolic brakes.they exceed Engwe in every way. Yes they cost more, but you get more. But ridiculously even if they programed a 15.5mph restriction, I couldn't legally use one on UK roads. For me there should only be a speed law on public land. Shouldn't matter how powerful the bike is, a Ferrari doing 15mph has no more impact then a ford doing 15mph. The laws seem to be there to punished responsible people for the actions or potential actions of the irresponsible. 🙂

Why did it put you off the Engine X? This was my L20 boost review. The Engine X is great, just the 50nm torque struggles with big hills. flat though or small hills its good. There is my Engine X review on here and the Ep2 pro. Basically same bike. Im hopefully going to get my next L20 boost review done over the next week :)

@dazid1 yeah I wrote that I got the sensors mixed up in the description lol. 🙂

@mr_wildgoose honestly? I don't know. Really still depends on price and how hilly where you live is? The Engine X has no issues at all with the H bridge in Rhyl or the road bridge that goes kimnel bay ti Towyn. It does struggle to get up the hill to the top part of Abergele castle though. And feels like it is straining the motor. That can't be great for it I'd guess. I need yo make a new video. After more riding I feel my L20 Boost is faulty. There is no difference in the 5 pedal assist modes, but there should be. So I don't technically know if it should be more powerful then mine without the boost. At a similar price I would still buy the boost instead of the standard L20 🙂

@@noob-ebike-guy I really would like to understand if the assistance level concern is a fault or a feature before I commit to buying a L20 Boost? Trawling on the internet and I've found you are not the only one who thinks the assistance level setting on the Boost is useless!!

Honestly that is an issue. Engwe customer support are based in China. Because of the time gap it is basically one reply a day. When I di make the new video I may name it pedal assist fault or something and ask viewers to comment how their bike is and if they have problems. As far as mine goes, I'm 95% confident that I will get the issue fixed, or I'll get a working replacement. However I'm not anticipating a quick resolution With the language barrier, sometimes it is hard to tell if they are answering politically or not quite understanding. Sometimes it's like they copy and paste from a manual. I so plan to make a video after I have a fully working boost and talk about how the process of getting it sorted went. But again I'd be shocked if that's soon. I can't really advise you if you should or shouldn't buy a boost or if its likely to be fully functional. If it's a batch flaw, the next ones will be a different batch as obviously not available atm. 🙂

@mr_wildgoose Engwe have said that the pedal assist should only be one setting. So they say my bike is how it is meant to be. I will still ask in groups if it actually is 🙂

I've also written to Engwe to ask if the concern you describe is a fault or a feature on the L20 Boost? If they come back and say they are all like that, then I'll buy the standard L20 instead!

@OlivierPlateaux I was pedaling in the fastest gear, reasonably strongly. It didn't want to go much faster. Like you would have to put a big effort in to go quicker 🙂

@KennethWare-bn9vr I've got an L20 boost aswell now too 🙂

@shaunmk private landlord. No rules against keeping it here. Good job really as currently have the engine X, ep2 pro and L20 boost 🙂

@e-VRC they have tried to make a legal throttle on it. But it's not supper responsive and does like 2mph or something. So not very useful really. In honesty I took the boost button to be a boost when advertised. Help when the bike struggles. That extra 25nm it gives really helps on hills or just to get you to 15.5mph quicker. Really glad you liked my review. My goal is always to try and give a fair but balanced opinion 🙂

Just actually realised you do reviews too lol. Like I've seen your vids but just realised it was you. You're feedback is cool. Thank you for the support. :)

@KennethWare-bn9vr yeah I know. Was told previously lol. So I added a bit in description to say they where mixed up. 🙂

@@MarshalTriumph-p1h glad you liked it. Thank you 🙂

Can always change that on the toach screen. If your on private property or have insurance of course 😅

I fixed mine (puncture and new discs) but turned out my front tire had a thorn in too lol. So ordered a 2nd innertube that came today. Will fit that and then have another go and gie my opinion on the pedal assist levels :)

So I went out on mine again today and personally i cant tell any difference between any of the pedal assist modes. they all feel exactly the same to me. :)

@@noob-ebike-guyyeah, same. Engwe have said they’re going to send me a new controller, but I think it’s just the way the torque system works (I even think they added the boost to compensate). I also noticed on photos of the LCD panel it shows ‘eco, normal, sport’ - but there’s no obvious way to switch to these modes (if they exist).

@rokk spare parts are good but think it's how it's built so doubt it's worth swapping everything over 🙂

​@@rokkThose modes are on the Fiido bikes, and by pressing continously on the mode button you get a rocket icon and then the bike flies... Literally.

@Maverick247 really glad I helped you. These bikes are alot of money and especially not satisfied with them. The L20 boost had so much potential and yet they chose to ruin it by restricting it 20mph. I do find the 25mph of the L20 odd too. My Engine X will get to 27mph with same size wheel and same power motor. I'd think that all the 250w Engwe bikes all have the sane motor. Maybe the sensor is different because of the display and that is why. Yeah another person in comments pointed out I'd mixed up the naming of the sensors lol. I did add a bit in description to correct my mistake. Sounds like you a d your friend have a great time exploring Scotland on your Ebikes 🙂

@@noob-ebike-guy I was thinking the E26 has a 20 amp controller the L20 is 18 amp I think that is the difference in speed why though I don’t know it uses the same 48v 16AH battery (I know the L20 comes with 13AH battery but they sell a 16AH version I have one) You can increase the output in the settings from 18 to a max of 26 (but I am sure it would go faster but burn out the controller) So after watching your video I just bought another L20 in a different colour I was thinking of buying another battery anyway and they are £300 I got the bike for £899 so a spare bike for £600 that I can rotate I have already nearly done 1000 miles in just over 2 months

@Maverick247 yeah. I mean at £900 you're basically paying £600 for the bike bits and £300 on the battery. For the sound of what you use it for, I personally would use my Engine X. That rear suspension makes a big difference. Although guessing you need the step through aspect. M20 dual battery I love the look of but annoying af they don't make a legal uk version. The L20 is far easier to switch over battery then the Engine X 5bf too 🙂

Hi mate, can you post the link for the Schwalbe tyres...cheers.

@@MarshalTriumph-p1h I bought them from Tredz they where only £40 looks like they are out of stock Amazon and Halfords do them but want £54.99 the tyre is the Schwalbe Super Moto X 20x4

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295684129097

off ebay. although they seem to align with my arms lol. so not sure I'm fully happy with visability in that position. Ordered some cheap ones to go underneath too, :)

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/176327694507

​@@noob-ebike-guytry ones that screw into the handle bar ends, excellent views and they fold in.

@davidperkins7866 I use both road and pavements. We're allowed to use either as still deemed a pedal bike 🙂

@@everythingfelixstowevideo328 are you on the UK site? The EU one won't deliver. Although the UK site is currently showing no stock. Engwe support can probably tell you more 🙂

To be honest, If you look at the l20, Engine X, Ep2 pro, Engine pro specs, They all state 50nm of torque (ish) The Engine pro 2 states 75nm. Also they all state 10 degree hill climb. But the boost says 17.8 degrees (with boost). So I do think they replaced the motor to probably the Engine pro 2.0 new motor and then programmed it to limit it. I'd guess top end speed wont change (unlocked), Just a bit faster acceleration and more pulling power up hills. Then there is the torque sensor, so the motor should activate sooner and easier. I've never had the L20 and not anywhere near a big enough channel to get sent bikes to test lol. But I have the Engine X. That is basically the same motor and sensor as the original L20. So when I review my L20 boost, I will compare it to my Engine X :)

Once you ride a bike with a torque sensor, you’ll never go back. Much better.

@@Bronzato fingers crossed yours comes completely problem free 🙂

​@@noob-ebike-guythe only problem you had was it coming with EU charger, right ? Otherwise everything is okay for you until now ?

@Bronzato yeah that was it. About 145 miles on it now and still going strong. Had a squeak gor a while but sprayed it wirlth wd40 and that went. And brakes where wired for EU so I swapped cables over to make left lever the back brake. 🙂

@@jonieuole2551 I just got the boost version for £1000. So happy.

@@AbsolutelyAnything-vo6sn can't wait to get mine and try it out 🙂

Can you confirm that it can be unlocked (speed limit, turn on throttle and cruise control) just like the regular L20 once you get it? Thank you very much.

@@MetalthinkerYT Thank you for your request. I will make sure I add that info in the review :)

The boost button sounds very useful to me. Adds 25nm of torque. So can do steeper hills. Should accelerate faster with more nm too. Have to admit the one colour option wasn't great but luckily I like the green lol. Once it comes I'll do a full review and test it. I don't have an L20 but it should function like the Engine X as same power. So will compare the L20 boost to my Engine X :)

Wow that is really good tbh. 5 days is quick and that's a great fix from Engwe. Nice to hear good feedback about them :)

@danielgriffith6095 never been stopped by the police. If you ordered the 250w version, you're completely legal. Did you get the ep2 pro or engine X? 🙂

@@noob-ebike-guy the engine x

@@danielgriffith6095 what colour? 🙂

@@noob-ebike-guy just went for the black

@@danielgriffith6095 Jealous lol. :)

Small world lol. Honestly I would recommend it tbh. When I bought mine they had no black and I convinced myself to buy white. I don't hate my white one but black does look better lol. There are people who have had frames brake and things but seem to be rare ish. I watched a lot of reviews before I bought mine and it performed how the reviews had described. Just go for the 250w eu versions so legal :)

@noob-ebike-guy like i said i have watched a few videos now and that's wot a few have said about the handle bars

@@danielgriffith6095 have you watched my Engine X review? I actually thought your comment was on the Engine X one lol. mine has currently done 140 mile. I'd be tempted to sell at ep2 pro price and then i'd buy a new Engine X in black lol :)

I bought mine direct from Engwe (their UK website). 27mph is top speed. That was on flat smooth ground with me on (I'm around 13 stone) :)

Small world lol. Never noticed who the company was. just the lad on the way back blocking my path in his own little world lol 🤣

If offering you money for a five star review isn’t buying a review what is ?.

What do you mean the power max upto 9? Do you mean the pedal assist modes? I think 5 is plenty (even with restriction removed). or is yours a different bike? for speed mine is restricted to 26kmph but the menu lets it to upto 60kmph. But bikes top speed seems around 44kmph/27mph :)

I think I forgot to raise the volume of speech when editing tbh. my voice seems louder and clearer on other videos. I will hopefully not forget in future videos :)

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295684129097

Thank you. What is the issue with battery life? I get around 30 miles from a full charge. :)

@noob-ebike-guy Thats the thing Im about the same, but the website says loads more. Cheers

@@sirguesty In honesty they want to make their bike sound as amazing as possible. So their distance is likely based on pedal assist level 1 where the motor is hardly doing anything. Then completely flat and smooth ground. An extremely light rider ect. All of the ebike companies do that :)

Ty pal I am an Oldham lad but also left the area.I do have quite a few more videos planned. They are slow to make. Hoping to grow my page and hopefully get sent ebikes to test by companies. I ended up buying an Engwe Engine X. So fully UK legal now lol :)

You can actually swap the push assist (3.6mph) to the throttle rather than holding down the minus button. I did this by accident whilst trying to have it so that it's max power on throttle regardless of what pas I was using. I have an engine x and I've done so many mods to it it's probably worth double now. I wouldn't worry about the police as long as you're not riding like an idiot they've got more pressing issues like arresting right wingers lol😂

@simonjohnhinton1938 not sure if it was possible on the x20 that lcd is on alot of bikes but apparently it's how the controller is pre programed that dictates the settings that work and don't. I did find a video a while back with that settings and turned it on. I thought it would work like the one on the Eskuta (instant for setting off). But the delay is to long to be useful settings off and I think (not 100% sure) that it interfered with pedal assist while holding the throttle. I didn't like having it on and swapped it back after my 1st journey 🙂

I can't really say yes or no to this tbh. I mean a lot of delivery places seem to use those mopped looking ones (the Eskuta sx250). I've not had or used one but they only have 20 mile range (according to reviewers). Maybe a 2nd battery? Or think the Eskuta ones charge the bike between deliveries. Spare batteries can be bought, I'd guess the 16ah batteries would do about 37 miles.

@@noob-ebike-guy okay thanks bro