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Amazing! The presentation was a little hard to understand at first but wow, this is so much useful for grief vs the common theories.

Grief is love with nowhere to go 😢

She sounds like she’s sticking up for childlessness, like it’s a good thing. It’s the worst thing that has happened to my life.

There is life worth and not worth having,some people just love more and are more sensitive and connected! If that is lost, they cannot live for body sustenance, life stops having meaning!

No one talks about the greif for not being able TO AFFORD to start a family! Im a 30 year old woman and I’ve realized ill never be able to become a mother… because with this economy i wont have anything to offer and ill Never be that selfish! But its hard to find comfort anywhere about that reason of why i for example and many are childless..not by choice but as a consequence of how the world is turning out to be… I feel so lonely ! Theres only support for women that cant conceive! 😮‍💨

This is exactly me. I grieve every single day from it and think about it countless times a day

Wow. I’m a childless trans woman and it hurts. It’s just as bad for me as it is for anyone else. People are usually insensitive, they tell me if I wanted a child I shouldn’t be trans but it doesn’t work like that. It makes me so happy that I was acknowledged here. Especially when you said you’re feminist I was expecting you to be terf. But I need support so much I’d stay regardless. But wow you made me so happy acknowledging me 🥹

I am so grateful for Jody's work.

Twinkle twinkle little star _ how about walk along side the client _ we the inflicted need a democratic therapy process _ cause i feel like a prisoner of narcissistic therapies

I was forced to care for my mentally ill parents _ makes u codependent care system

If your codependent_ your going to get stuck. Codependency is caused by severe child abuse

Why it was added? Well, like everything else _ people with money are in grief & go figure. Abuse Model of the cluster Bs will be next added to INSURANCE_ lets invest in medical insurance companies _ get unbelievably rich_ be a councellor _ jobs available like its leaves on trees.Invest in your future.

Thank you Jody. I badly needed those words 😢

just listening again... needs constant re sharing

Very good. Thank you

I am so grateful for Jody and her work. So grateful.

this is a briliant presentation! i learnt a lot thanks to Linda!

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This gives me hope! Thank you 🙏🏼

Rupert Read you are a vile creature who has sort to scare the young with your Sudo science. The world is in a better place than it has ever been, people live longer and better than they ever have. Prior to the industrial revolution aid was never sent to countries suffering Droughts, Floods, Disease. Loathsome Creatures like our Rupert would have you believe this is all down to burning of fossil fuels, take the time to research outside the Eco terrorist supplied info and you will find these events have been around for as long as we have been on this planet. The likes of Rupert the cause you are suffering, he is the harbinger of grief not a remedy, the remedy is to loo beyond these doom mungers and you will find it is not bad.

There is just no getting around it men. You can never win against an ideological juggernaut like feminism. Started with the vote continued into sexual liberation and then shaming men. Now that the dust has settled and it is starting to become clear that men are walking away from marriage and replacing it with career, wealth and then having short-term relationships with younger women, when the man is in his 30s, 40s and 50s, the left over women who had their "hoe-phase" and sexual liberation in their 20s have come up with a new term, to describe themselves. Brilliant. Zero accountability. There is a reason men are no longer marrying, how about try fixing that instead of inventing new terms because you suddenly find yourself at 30 and they finally told you about your short biological time clock and that men actually dont like and will not marry old women with a long sexual past?

I grief in silence everyday … for the child I never had. Those around me don’t have a clue,care nor emphasize . Been told I was lucky , have no worries, why don’t you adopt? No one ever asked me are you ok ! The cruelest experience was at work - Friday before Mother’s Day - the entire office were given flowers - I was excluded - I was not a mother therefore I was not given flowers. Painful and cruel something I never forget. The offices would emphasize with someone trying to get a second pregnancy- never understood they were already blessed with a child once . My husband endured the same - his coworkers would ask jokingly if he was shooting blanks! I could go on and on …. I am lucky to be born in a culture that doesn’t shun childless woman for that I’m great full. Thank you for the inspirational words Jodie!

I really don't understand why so many people don't understand that prolonged grief is about persistent acute grief. This is actually super interesting to watch. Only thing I'd change about the diagnosis is the 6/12 months mark. Some losses like the loss of a child most definitely have a longer acute grief. This also doesn't really include when grief is delayed and then prolonged which also isn't rare. I find it a step in the right direction either way, as long as it's taught correctly to professionals that will deal with it. They should be able to tell apart grief from depression. Simultaneously I think more people should stop normalizing the symptoms of acute grief over a really long term, because they most definitely can lead to addiction or suicidality if someone doesn't seek help after a while of them persisting. People deserve to close the circle of permanent acute grief and integrate it and I think the therapy steps outlined in the video make a lot of sense for that. I would prefer if it was called a syndrome instead of a disorder though, but there are probably reasons for that not being the case.

Fruitcakes like this Charleton continue stoking the fear "Which They have conveniently named "Climate Anxiety," thusly working hand in hand with the World Economic Forum Fear Mongerers continuing to spread the Apocalyptic world-ending climate DOOM. Absolute Hogwash. What you either neglect to understand, or willfully and conveniently choose to ignore is that people with a modicum of common sense see right through this hypocritical self-serving narrative.

Admitting that humans have a fundamental desire to create a family, and that not fulfilling that is a source of grief, is brave in a world where antinatalist nihilism and postmodernist "social biology" dominate the conversation. And I can't thank you enough for choosing to mention that yes- men want to be parents, too!

I'm in Sydney Australia. In 2018 I lost my home due to a sale, although it had been my parents' home. In 2016 I lost my mum. In 2010 I lost my dad. I'm now in a Retirement village renting. My older and only sibling did not consider the terms of our mum's Will and forced me to sell. That is why I'm here. I have not been able to move on in four years. I'd say I would have PGD. How do I move on and obtain my own home. I have been diagnosed with PTSD in 2019.

How very interesting. Sandy Hook Massacre anniversary. Alex Jones for Prison 🎉🎉🎉

I'm so glad Jody addressed the issue of women not having children due to illness and so forth. As she said, it's very maternal to delay/avoid childbearing if circumstances aren't right. One of the most motherly, nurturing things a person can do in fact. Society doesn't give such people nearly enough thanks. I've suffered trauma and mental health struggles. I haven't been able to meet a man with whom to have children. It might look like a choice from the outside, but it hasn't remotely been so.

The grief is deep and painful even if you have a child or more and or you want more but unable to. This is overly underestimated too!!! My husband and I couldn’t agree on the 2nd and I didn’t want to break up the family I already have but the internal pain is unbearable and I’ve been carrying it for way too long 😪😪😪

Excellent video to help you understand PGD and treatment/s used.

Good Lecture!! Loved Professor Davies thoughts !!🥰🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

Thank you for these beautiful comments, friends and colleagues new and old, near and far! And thanks for sharing this talk...

Important work and progress on the issues to address the specific subset and complications within and treating those like myself who continue to struggle. Unfortunately there are some of us who are beyond treatment. Therefore must employ other options...

Wonderful talk Jody. As I get older I have come to terms with this, but I feel alone as women,including my 90 year old mothe, doesn’t understand while she brags about my brothers children to me. Thank you for this,

Thank you Jody.

I’m so glad I found this lecture and listened in its entirety. I feel seen and validated. I came across your blog a few years ago now and that is how I recognized that I was grieving. It made so much sense. It was a lightbulb moment for sure. Thank you for the work you’re doing.

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great point. this is me - deciding not to have kids bc of health problems, for the sake of the kids, not bc I don't want kids. so good to point this out: th-cam.com/video/y15Z8NE6lo8/w-d-xo.html

Thank you for this presentation. I have recently bought CS Lewis’s book A Grief Observed to assist me through my chaplaincy course.

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Rather questionable to call lengthy grief a disorder. Will it have a prescription pill to treat it? Will it be clinically assessed by teams of psychologists in hospitals, clinics and get its own code for medical billing? One year seems awfully short time to be done with grief. Sounds pretty normal to me, called “ adjustment to a new, more lonely and scary life”. I could see if grief surpasses 2 years, people seek out extra emotional support like a grief group, and or therapy to assist the process along if it gets stalled ( maybe depression / anxiety has occurred due to huge loss and that’s why people feel so paralyzed. Personality can have huge mitigating factors as can the degree of social support network one has. Solutions- oriented is useful, grief needs to be discussed more to help us all cope together as a species, to prepare for and bear great pain in life which is inevitable. For ex: how to build a good support system in life and how to maintain it. We just don’t talk about hard things well with one another bc we are all at the mercy of biology to a great extent. We are designed to attach, to love and to lose. Thanks for video:) Maybe some throat lozenges and hot tea will help ease the throat irritation. I get that when I talk a lot too.

Drink some water lady, gees

Every cradle is a grave

The voice over,re sound quality disappointing.

Aka another drug to make us billions. The human condition is NOT a mental illness

wtf I do not care who u r or how many letters u have in front of ur name u do not have the right to tell another human being how to or how long to grieve. she may need some mental health treatment is she crazy who the f*** is she to put a time stamp on how long u r allowed to grieve b4 u should be considered ill and need to be medicated what a ridiculous waste of medical research. just another thing for pharmaceutical companies to get rich from. disgusting

10:54 If grief never goes away... why does the DSM-5 authors need a pathological LABEL ON IT... something that happens naturally. I still miss my mother. And she suffered greatly. But it didn't take me 12 months to get over her desk I couldn't really move on until 18 months later. And somebody's going to call me f****** crazy because of that because of that DSM-5. I'm not crazy and I don't like the people that made the DSM-5 nor do I like the people that made the dsm-4 because they make everybody pathological

8:51 >I'm against the DSM. And I'm against all of them. We don't have to pathologicalize grief! IT'S WRONG to tell another human being has been grieving the death of your mother for 12 months but you should be over it by now move on get a life. How cruel that is for the DSM and four people on that board to tell other people that they are grieving too long because 12 months is the cutoff time you're not supposed to cry after that you're supposed to move on your supposed to be able to go back to work and get a job and live your life. Excuse the F me but my mother died in February 2018 and she was the only person that I had in my life I'm the only child I have no other p. Not married. Lived with my mom. She died of a terminal illness and she wasn't diagnosed within stages of Alzheimer's dementia until two weeks before her death and you're telling me that my grief that was about 18 months it took me about 18 months to get back on track after my mom's death because it was horrible and she suffered for two years before her death and I suffered along with her you're telling me that I had prolonged grief disorder and it is a pathological thing. Well FU!

The loss the grief the coping are normal for normal situations for any human. If they cannot cope its good if they seek the relevent coping mechanism that they think is the best. But the weirdest is yet to unfold that pschiartry itself is not looking at that in the relevancy. The unknown that are going to hurt the normals in the net or religion or any social media or interaction. Children are already addicted to whats unknown to adults. Education to normal sites too are not capable of adhereing to disciplined learning rather opts dopamine addictiveness in children, because thats what they know. Thats not handlable or known ground for parents. These are stress factors, parents are not eqquipped to handle however educated as thats not experinced by them at that stages. Prevention there is not gettable with uneducated mass driven with money factor with no morality or pschological health knowledge.The unhandlable will make any self actualised human go to grief that no pscharist addresses. You speak of family and other griefs that all humans cross and most of them cope because of the relevencies there. Please give teachings on these that are not there and copings urgently to be addressed. World will thanklessly or some atleast one or two thankfully benefit.

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