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Damon Stea
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Lore and Secrets in Sovereign: Fall of Wormwood
Lore and Secrets in Sovereign: Fall of Wormwood
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Sovereign: Fall of Wormwood story trailer
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Sovereign: Fall of Wormwood story trailer
How does Sovereign: Fall of Wormwood compare to Magic and Netrunner?
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How does Sovereign: Fall of Wormwood compare to Magic and Netrunner?
What Sovereign: Fall of Wormwood faction do you belong to?
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What Sovereign: Fall of Wormwood faction do you belong to?
Why it took me 10 YEARS to design this card game
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Why it took me 10 YEARS to design this card game
A high combat 3-player playthrough of Sovereign
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A high combat 3-player playthrough of Sovereign
Sooooo.... Yu-Gi-Oh with Marvel Snap?
So armor is armour and health is life. Simple enough
I was on the fence but after watching this I'm going to back, thanks. I play Netrunner so really appreciate the comparison and think I have room for both games :)
Thanks so much! A lot of Netrunner players have really enjoyed the game
I am quite fascinated with your game after trying it once on TTS. I am a Netrunner veteran and I can see how you took inspiration from it and how you manipulated the system to make a more streamline and less wild of a game. I was hoping Netrunner could come back with pre-constructed deck because I am not interested in LCG or CCG anymore. Very interested what you have done with this system and what you plan on doing. I respect how much effort you put in the lore of your game but to me it is gameplay first. Good job so far!
Thanks so much!
love the art
WHAT?! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
Wormwood: Fall of Sovereign
And this is why it took 10 years to get a single sale on Amazon
imagine role-playing with a group as you play "Die organic scum!" lol
Really enjoyable video. Are you planning on showing more playthroughs?
Yes! Take a look at our Playthroughs playlist if you haven't already discovered Optimal Play's videos. Otherwise, we are planning to do several 2-player livestreamed playthroughs during the kickstarter campaign, and those will later be available to view here. Check out the KS page for the schedule!
Are there plans for future expansion releases or is just that _?
Yes! The current plan is to release 2-4 new decks each year. We are also discussing a TTRPG and a solo mode
@@damonstea will the new decks add card options for deckbuilding to existing decks or they will be completely new factions?
@@jimphilip9454 Both- each release will be a fully playable faction deck in and of itself, but there will definitely be decks that expand on established factions (zooming into certain aspects or subcultures of that faction.) There are no plans to make booster packs.
Nice. Seen all the content, backed day 1, very hyped for the game. Now I have to be patient for 1+ year to receive it as kickstarters go 🥳
I backed this game on Kickstarter, it sounds and looks so awesome. Congrats!!
Best game. Period.
Wow, thank you!
admitting the art is stolen is a bold move
Hi there! This is a small slice of a larger video. After we found the art that inspired us most for the prototype we reached out to each artist individually and asked to license the art for the game. Some said no, many of them said yes! All of the art in the game is licensed and used with the knowledge of the artist.
What if you put the power and armor bonuses on the augments in the same spot as units but with a +1 or +X? Makes it a little easier to identify, even if you then have to figure out what X is.
That's a great idea! There's a lot of variety in abilities of augments, so I'm not sure it would ultimately work but I'll look into it
Kind of hard to tell what is going on. Having people saying “I’m playing this and this” tells new watchers nothing…
Take a look at our 2 player game, it goes at a slower pace and helps you learn the game. Thanks for taking a look!
I am a game designer and the different Factions are really interesting
I think I am a Neogenesis Church
A gambler who loves building infrastructure? :)
It's really weird to describe it like this but if you think about it this is an LCG with worker placement!😆 I really liked it.
That's exactly right! :)
I'm so hyped for this game, which is a sure sign my friends will never play with me.
Hahaha, that's how it goes sometimes. Join the discord if you can't find someone to play with lots of players around the world on there!
Excellent playthrough! I'm excited to get my hands on this game in the future.
Thanks!
As a game designer and fan of ccgs this make me feel enthusiasm about the future of this kind of games, really wanting to try this, im making a Lucha libre/wrestling/Witchcraft ccg but now is only in spanish, if you want to see a bit from the prototype you can on @titanes_del_nod on instagram or @N0dtitanes on Cara (sorry for the bad english xd i´m not an english speaker) Vampire: eternal struggle is still alive (kinda xd) i live in Chile and we play every thursday with the 5V+ cards
Has definitely piqued my interest. Curious, is the art in the print & play the final art, and if not, will we get to see the final art once the campaign launches?
Hi there! About 70% of the art in the print and play is final. The rest is still being worked on. All the art that is showing in the campaign itself will be finalized, but it'll take us a few more months to finish everything.
Very excited for this game, it falls right into what I've been waiting for when it comes to tactical card games.
Same! 🎉 Can't WAIT!
I am in my 5th iteration of my card game atm. The first version took me 1 year to make and it was so bad that me and my testers laught in pain. the 2nd version was better, but still not good and so on. Even the 4th version - while working well - was just not much fun to play. Sometimes card games just don't work out as intended. There is just way to much stuff that has to work in harmony.
It's a complex art form! Keep at it, you'll get there
Just came across this game today and watched the gameplay video and this video. I must say, your approach to the design of this game is incredibly refreshing. You are not just trying to make a light, simple card game but something deep and rewarding. More importantly, you are trying to deeply embed the story and world into your game, something I find often missing from modern card games. Wormwood reminds me of FFG's LCGs, all games with the theme heavily tied in to deep mechanics.
Thanks so much! I hope you can give it a try
This was just what I needed to hear from someone who had the exact same experience with TCG's as I did growing up.
There's a lot of us!
It’s so nice to the know the design and thought process of games are developed. Looking forward to the kickstarter!
Thanks so much!
Very excited for this
So glad this happened across my path. This looks VERY up my alley, from the art to the play.
Thanks!
I’ve been designing my own card game and have went down a rabbit hole of helpful TH-cam videos loaded with advice from people who have tread this road before me, and that led me to this video. Loved it! Will definitely be checking this game out and trying to convince my friends to try it with me
Thanks so much, and good luck on your own journey!
talents and drones? reminds me of alpha centauri!
Alpha Centauri was a huge inspiration, for sure!
is that AI art?
We have worked with over 30 artists on the art- many of the pieces are licensed personal pieces, not commissioned by us. You may see a few AI pieces in this video for cards we haven't completed yet.
This is a great video. I don't think I'll be playing it but it's great to see how you can make an economy for a card game work so differently. (Keyforge also has the draw up to hand size at end of turn rule, and it almost doesn't have an economy.)
Thanks!
I am seeing some similarities between the systems different in Wormwood from MTG and those which are already present in smaller CCGs. Would you be willing to do a callout of any other CCGs that you were inspired by and how Wormwood is also going to differ from those?
Hey! Netrunner and Magic are the ones I am most intimately familiar with and the only ones I could knowledgably comment on, but I was definitely influenced by a variety of card games- Star Wars, Legend of the Five Rings, Vampire: The Masquerade (Jyhad), Pokemon, WARS, etc. Curious to know which games you see parallels with!
This game looks fantastic, I'm looking forward to backing it (and maybe even making a print&play copy)
Thank you!
The Netrunner connection got my attention, but this video just 100% sold me on the game.
Thank you!
Hey! I've tried Wormwood on TTS and I think you did an awesome job! I do feel there's room for improvement, though. This is not my full opinion on the game, just a short list of the things I've noticed. 1) I feel like factions are not well characterized, and it makes it hard to get immersed in the game. One way card games signpost factions and their identities (like Magic or Netrunner, as you've mentioned in another video) is to use colors and story elements that are unique to that faction. For example, a card like "Account Siphon" from Netrunner is so obviously criminal because it has been color-coded that way, and it abides to that faction identity both inside and outside of the game. You cards do a disservise to the world you built by being too generic and overlapping with cards in another factions (for example, Field Medics and Splicing medics are from different factions but they surely don't feel that way) 2) I believe the game would benefit greatly by having deckbuilding. Being able to personalize decks adds a lot of replayabilty that this game doesn't grant in this form. Sure, the game feels different because no deck is allowed to have duplicates of any of the 30 cards, but I think that would get stale nonetheless. Magic and Netrunner are/were successful because they allowed you to think about the game even outside of your LGS, formulating new tactics around cards that you hadn't thought would be a good fit until you actually playtested your deck. I've spent countless hours theorycrafting decks, many more then I've actually played. Wormwood (outside of the flavor issues I've described above) can and will get stale fast. I've got other gripes (even with the rules) but i'm short on time so I guess this will do :P. Still appreciate the game and looking forward to its release in final form!
Thanks for taking the time to comment, join the discord to continue giving feedback! You can find an invite on our website. Most people find the factions to be quite distinct. Each one has 30 unique cards, plus a faction leader power. We do have deckbuilding rules if that is something people wish to do. We have balanced all the decks against each other and can't guarantee that there are no infinite loops or other issue if decks are customized (although so far we haven't found any). Though you may be surprised at just how much variety a 30 card deck (plus echoes) will give you. During a game it is rare to draw through more than 1/3rd of the deck, and that paired with the different interactions between factions provides a huge amount of variety and replayability.
@@damonstea I can't speak on behalf of other people, and I hope my opinion doesn't assume that! I support everyone that is content with the state of Wormwood and that will buy the game once it hits the (internet) shelves! I hope that sharing my vision of the game might help you and other people build upon the great system that you are developing. I believe in the project, otherwise I wouldn't be rambling about it! I'll also add that I have little experience in the design of card or boardgames, and even less experience with the actual development. 1. My concerns around flavor remains untouched. For example, unless someone was interested in the lore of the game, it would be hard to understand why SHOCK TROOPS, INQUISITORS and GRAFTGUARD, or BETRAYAL, DEFECTION and CONSCRIPTION are unique to that factions identity. How are MANDATORY STIMS different from the BATTLE STIMS? How do the GENEFORGE NURSES compare to another faction's GENEFORGE? SENTINELS and HELLCATS? TALENT HACK and MINDJACK? DUSTMEN and CRUSTCRACKER GANG? In other games, every card has a reason to be inside its faction, combining mechanics, colors and flavor. For example, in magic, CONDEMN is a removal card that puts target creature on the bottom of a deck and makes its controller gain life. It's a card that behaves like a white card (lifegain is usually associated to white) and the image uses white as it's main color to describe the effect the spell is having on the creature. Everybody can tell that card is white, and every body understands what white is about. Another example, coming from Netrunner, would be the card "Snare!". In this case, the color doesn't match the identity of the faction, but the flavor is so obviously Jinteki-like that nobody would assume it came from any other faction. Trapping the opponent and dealing net damage is this faction's bread and butter, and its elegant design is a signpost for what Jinteki wants to achieve as a whole. Wormwood's factions feel too samey because they share many themes, units, words and lore. 2. 10 factions is a whole lot, and trying every combination multiple times (even with more then 2 players) will take dozens of games, if not hundreds. However, players of Magic, Yugioh, Netrunner, and Pokemon are drawn not only to their enjoyable gameplay but also to their scalability. Every 3 months a new Magic expansion comes out, with 230+ new cards (not including alternate art styles and foils). Netrunner used to release 60-card packs every once in a while (usually 6 in a year) and a full box containing new cards for one runner and one corp faction every year. People spend countless hours theorycrafting new decks even before they are released because they enhance the already pre-existing experience the system created by allowing you to tinker and experiment. Wormwood isn't designed around that, and that could hurt the game's future. I'll be sure to join discord and keep looking forward to the full release!
The sibilance the video audio just doesn’t seem great. I would check your microphone settings.
Thanks, I recently bought a new recorder which plays much nicer with my mic. The next one will be better
What a great rules video! Love that you all shot the actual cards. I feel like I have a good grasp on the game after watching this only once. Good job! Game looks really fascinating…
Thank you!
@29:09 Attacking a Forge, getting nothing out of it and wasting your turn feels weird .. Not even pushing the "production" icon back one space on the chosen cards when completely unopposed? But it makes sense that a losing player doesn't get to lose more to stay in the game. Still..
The only advantage is information- you know what the player has coming and can prepare for it. There are actually a couple cards that reduce a forge card's progress when it breaches, but it isn't a standard mechanic.
My eyes jus glazed over..
Learning rules is hard!
Will there be a solo mode?!
This is much requested, but it isn't something we have cracked yet. I won't put out a subpar solo mode just to have it, so for now there are no plans to release one. It's still something I have on my mind. At the very least we hope to create an app in the future and that will allow for solo campaigns!
Can't wait! just wondering, about how many kickstarter followers are you aiming to get pre-launch?
It's a mix of the follows and the email list that we are looking at. The number that most marketers and successful kickstarter creators has suggested to us is 7000- that high because unfortunately you can only count on 5-10% of them actually backing. We are getting there. It'll be soon!
@@damonstea Yeah, it seems like the follower count on kickstarter is growing exponentially, and I can imagine the email list is doing the same. Can't wait!
The game looks great, however the biggest drawcard from this playthrough is how much fun everyone is having. Has all the halmarks of a great card game, i love that you can still win without playing units all the time. Excited for the kickstarter.
Thank you so much! It definitely is a fun-first design. I'm sure people will find a way to play competitively, but kitchen table play is what it's made for.
Building up the units and then the cost becoming their health reminds me of how the minion work in Vampire the Eternal Struggle.
Oh yeah, it sort of is!
the secret-keeping and information aspect is really really cool. really cool. feels like it could be super political, looking at someone's card then lying to another player about it, stuff like that
It can get very political! Once a group has played a few times you see a group culture emerge. Thanks for taking a look!
Are there any plans for a digital spinoff with the ability to play as a single player? Edited for a typo.
I would love to make an app if I can get the money to program it! Hopefully in the future
I'm liking what I'm hearing here.
Thanks for checking it out!
Man, what a cool game.
Thank you!