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KTM 1290 and BMW GS riding the best of the COBDR the right way. With Bill Dragoo
This video shows extensive footage of what I consider to be the best parts of the Colorado Backcountry Discovery Route.. (COBDR). Corkscrew, Hurricane, California, and Engineer passes.
Not only is footage of the passes shown to help those researching the route, but I'm also following the legendary Bill Dragoo. Ride along with me, study his lines, and observe how he makes these passes look easy. (Side note: if you do much research, you'll see tons of guys having big problems on the big bikes on these same passes.)
KTM 1290 and BMW GS
00:00:34 - Intro
00:05:49 - Corkscrew
00:14:05 - Hurricane
00:19:15 - California
00:22:33 - Engineer
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  • @adamc1839
    @adamc1839 26 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! What midpipe and exhaust are you running?

  • @EastTexasADV
    @EastTexasADV 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Gave ya a sub. You deserve it for the hard work. Some people don't realize how hard it is to hit that sweet spot.

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, I appreciate it. You're correct, these are a ton of work.

  • @mikepatrick4829
    @mikepatrick4829 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Those are the 3 passes I did while at Dusty Lizard except the opposite direction. So beautiful there. Engineer, I did the year before.

  • @mfranquemont1884
    @mfranquemont1884 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Looks like perfect conditions; wet but not raining! We weren’t so lucky, Corkscrew was very dry and recently graded. NOT fun. Loose dirt and rock. Especially the steep switchbacks were a real treat. At 13:00 min mark; bill was in left hand track with long sweeping blind turn; def. NOT where I would be. FWIW I think you had the correct line. Hard tell, but it seems Bill rides with little to no bend in the knees/hips/arms. Anyone else notice this?

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I suspect if Bill was in what he considered to be challenging terrain he would adjust accordingly. As this was not challenging to him, he's probably just conserving energy. I do the same.

  • @lifesjourneyat50
    @lifesjourneyat50 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bill's great and so is Dusty...good stuff!!!

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks

  • @PreonEnergy
    @PreonEnergy 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What an awesome video. Looking forward to seeing more. I also appreciate you letting me know about Bill Dragoo. I’ve just finished up several days of training with Bill and his son, Ben. As a new adventure bike rider, this was an amazing experience. Bill is a super person, and his son is also a great teacher. I look forward to more adventure bike riding, and especially looking forward to riding Colorado trails. Please keep putting these videos together. You do a great job!!!!

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's amazing. So glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comment.

  • @jetmuchacho
    @jetmuchacho 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was a great comparison, thanks for the vid. I have an Africa Twin and a T7. I rode the T7 for 7 weeks this summer and I just absolutely can't stand it anymore on the highway. My back and shoulders were sore for weeks afterward. On the AT, my back is usually only sore for a couple days lol. I'm split between the 890R and 1290R now. Sometimes I ride fast pavement for 5 LONG days in a row, but then I ride hard off-road where the suspension on the AT and T7 forces me to baby the bike to keep it on the trail and off the rims. I'd love to be able to pick up the pace and have a safer ride off-road. I wonder if the 890R could work if there were enough aftermarket wind protection parts. The screaming wind in your face on a T7 is just brutal all day on the highway, and that's with helmet peak removed. Still can't hear my music beyond 70mph. Also the T7 guzzles fuel too fast at the speeds I cruise at to cover ground on the long boring days. Have to stop every hour for fuel because otherwise you're only working with a couple liters margin for error if you skip that gas station. A minor headwind increase can take that 2 extra liters like nothing and you're bumming for gas on the side of the highway. The 1290R would obviously be better on the highway days, but I'm a short dude so that would limit me a little bit off-road, although to me they all feel like big behemoths so I'm not sure anything between 400-600lbs is much more or less capable in my hands. However when you've been riding all day fully loaded and have to ride through some downtown in 100° heat through 13 stop lights, holding that extra weight up with just one toe in your Astars Tech 7 really sucks lol. The T7 feels taller and heavier than the AT to me in technical terrain which defeats the purpose of even owning the "smaller more off-road focused bike". T7 for sale by the way, 90% highway driven🙂

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jetmuchacho That’s a lot to think about 😊. it turns out there are no unicorns, maybe someday. I just returned from doing all of the Colorado (COBDR) passes on the 1290, rode 850 miles each way to do it…. and loved the 1290. The stock suspension on the 1290 is way better than the AT or the T7. However, I’m 6”1’ and can basically flat foot it. The 890 has the best suspension of all the stock ADV bikes, and probably has sufficient wind protection? Tough call for sure.

  • @DrDanTDC
    @DrDanTDC 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Impressive riding on those big bikes boys!

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks

  • @ArbitraryLifestyle
    @ArbitraryLifestyle 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fun looking trip!! Makes me SO thankful for my lil CRF300L.

  • @ckkrons2338
    @ckkrons2338 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’d want a dual sport for the pace you guys are running, always amazed those that ride big bikes like dirt bikes. That ride is on my bucket list.

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's an amazing ride on any bike, I hope you get to do it someday.

  • @Thelnferno
    @Thelnferno 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great highlights! Can you please tell me what trail that is at 11:43? The scenery looks amazing!

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I believe that was A4 1/10 rd going into Gateway CO from UT. I'll discuss this quite a bit in episode three, but we ended up having to pivot for a couple of days to avoid the rain. II plan to download the actual .gpx files from my Garmin so I should be able to tell you more then.

  • @nickadler6001
    @nickadler6001 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is that stock exhaust?

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No... it's the Termignoni

  • @kevins.9547
    @kevins.9547 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    An epic trip and awesome footage, thx Dan 🤙✊🏻💨

  • @rbrown1339
    @rbrown1339 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm sure it was a blast! Thanks for sharing.

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching!

  • @dickmajor6510
    @dickmajor6510 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very jealous

  • @M5tworude
    @M5tworude 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nicecnc looks good but it won’t last if it’s the same quality of nicecnc products I bought and quickly replaced. Thanks for the video

  • @M5tworude
    @M5tworude 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nicecnc looks good but it won’t last if it’s the same quality of nicecnc products I bought and quickly replaced. Thanks for the video

  • @TommyBeall-q6x
    @TommyBeall-q6x 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How can I take advantage of riding the trails near Tulsa Oklahoma? Thank you!

  • @beoldziewski
    @beoldziewski 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Made it :) Thanks for the info, I'm still too new for this route but something to develop towards.

  • @lonnclark7353
    @lonnclark7353 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    made it!

  • @moto_burbl
    @moto_burbl 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    can't wait to get down there once my kid gets a bit more dirt time. Thanks for posting!

  • @personalfitnessco
    @personalfitnessco 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this video 💪

  • @razorwired130
    @razorwired130 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lol - not as easy as the Raboconda marketing material would have you believe. Still - a lot cheaper than having to pay my dealer. Appreciate the video!

  • @BIKE_BEERS_AND_DEATH_METAL
    @BIKE_BEERS_AND_DEATH_METAL 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Made it! I just subscribed to your channel. Great info and awesome video.🍻 cheers from South Florida

  • @bacbladerunner
    @bacbladerunner 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This seems very tail heavy. I think I would get some of the weight up front in a couple of crash bar bags.

  • @rbrown1339
    @rbrown1339 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You're in very good hands with Bill and Dusty. Both are great riders/instructors and quality individuals. Hope you had a great tour with them!

  • @FanOWater
    @FanOWater 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good review! I have the 790R and a Multistrada V2S (same motor as the Desert X). The Ducati is very thirsty if you enjoy the throttle, the KTM is much more frugal even with the same level of aggression. I live in northern California and the 790R is a beast in the twisties, not that the Desert X wouldn't be. Ducati's always handle well. Tires become the weak link before the bikes do. My 790R wears its numerous scars very well. It is not pretty, but it will be the last bike I sell. Cheers

  • @lord1999ful
    @lord1999ful 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How long took you to do the job

  • @charlesvickery
    @charlesvickery 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fellow Oklahomie here, great video - can’t wait to do this BDR!

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Awesome... It's a heck of a long ride to get out there, but the route is amazing. Hope you have a great trip.

  • @kmeconst
    @kmeconst 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m doing this in late, September. How was your phone reception?I was thinking about getting a Garmin inreach in case I need help?

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There are many times when you will have no cell reception. We had an inreach.

  • @desertsenior825
    @desertsenior825 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I rode the cartwheel section backwards last week. side by sides have plowed the sage on either side of the road about 3/4 the way up. i made it that far and turned around. I was by myself and just didn't feel like it was a good idea to keep going and that climb is no joke.

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      An argument could be made that cartwheel hill is the hardest part of the entire route, including all of the expert sections. At least it felt that way when we rode it. Trails change year over year, if not month to month... but you are correct, it is no joke.

  • @jubalblake777
    @jubalblake777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video and narration. Super difficult sections, handled very well. I abandoned Go-Pro after having 5. Insta-360 is where it is at. You can always have the right camera angle, without stressing over camera placement.

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @FanOWater
    @FanOWater หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm jealous! My factory heated grips for the 790R are a total kluge. They work, but look like cheap aftermarket stuff.

  • @FanOWater
    @FanOWater หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Stuff! We rode sections 1-3 last week (8/23/2024) and found the road blocked from junction of 7N08, RN25 and forest hwy 8?, (the start of the drop to the Mokelumne river crossing) and had to loop around. Do you recall what route you took there?. I'll probably go back and try from the north side. Doing more sections in a few weeks. Cheers

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FanOWater Thanks… we were very lucky, in that there were no roadblocks and no workarounds the week we did it. At least not that we were aware of. I believe the following week is when fire and other reroute started happening.

  • @LifeWithKernelLee
    @LifeWithKernelLee หลายเดือนก่อน

    Made it

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting

  • @JOHNgerdes-q6h
    @JOHNgerdes-q6h หลายเดือนก่อน

    made it NICE job GRT info

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting

  • @MCGMB
    @MCGMB หลายเดือนก่อน

    So how did you get past the fallen log starting 57:21?

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was a path to the right, started about 20 feet before the log, wasn't obvious at first, but people had clearly been going around.

    • @MCGMB
      @MCGMB หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DansADV Oh OK I understand. Was thinking you might’ve had to move it or cut it. And maybe you didn’t include in the video because of all the swearing 🤣.

  • @MattKritzstein
    @MattKritzstein หลายเดือนก่อน

    @HDBoffroad best guards on the market and Made in the USA

  • @MCGMB
    @MCGMB หลายเดือนก่อน

    Made it!

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting

  • @MSTRnBTCto-the-moon
    @MSTRnBTCto-the-moon หลายเดือนก่อน

    Made it! Thanks

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting

  • @scotteldredge5811
    @scotteldredge5811 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What time if the year did you do this ride? Apologize if I missed it. I checked up and down the comments a few times.

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good question! We were on the trail the last few days of June, first few days of July 2024.

  • @alejandrovelarde204
    @alejandrovelarde204 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thank you for sharing. I am thinking of doing this route next year in September with some friends; some of us like to air down for Offroad sections, a couple guys in my group don’t (I guess they compromise and use less pressure than usual for on road but also more pressure than me for off road). What did you guys do with your air pressure since this route goes from off road to on road back and forth ? Thank you.

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV หลายเดือนก่อน

      You'll see a lot of different opinions on this. The air down trade-off is traction, vs protecting your rims and preventing flats. I would guess maybe 2% of the COBDR is steep and loose. (All of the big passes, which don't amount to that many miles compared to the trip). I just set front and rear somewhere around 26 to 28 and leave it... check it every morning and no issues. Really personal preference though. Hope you have a great trip!

    • @alejandrovelarde204
      @alejandrovelarde204 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your response. What you do seems to be the more practical thing to do.

  • @Romenet310
    @Romenet310 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1290 SAR doubles as a chainsaw.

  • @highestsprings
    @highestsprings หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, both lovely bikes. GSX is more raw so gets my vote.

  • @docwyte
    @docwyte หลายเดือนก่อน

    Section 6, while easy, is very scenic and if you've never done it before, you should. For a place to stay, once you pop out on the road in Wyoming, head West to Baggs and stay at the Cowboy Inn. If you want more riding, try the BDR Red Desert X Loop the next day. Be aware there's a very hard 10+mile section of sand going clockwise on that loop. Also, doing any of the high mtn passes in Colorado after lunch can be dicey due to thunder storms. Before you hit Hagerman, if you're following the schedule laid out here, check the weather. A mid sized Adv bike is still 500lbs, IMO, the best bike for the COBDR is something no larger than a KTM 690/701, those weigh less than 350lbs....

  • @PreonEnergy
    @PreonEnergy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review of options to consider. Thanks

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting

  • @popeyepanther4519
    @popeyepanther4519 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely road this video started on. So swoopy!

  • @randywilson6974
    @randywilson6974 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Made it! Great info

    • @DansADV
      @DansADV หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and commenting

  • @mfranquemont1884
    @mfranquemont1884 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Couple updates; US 50 from Gunnison to Ridgeway closed at blue mesa res. Due to bridge construction; Bypass is 1-3 hours extra. Also section ‘one’ is no longer smooth and fast due to heavy rains.