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Buffalo and Erie County Naval & Military Park
United States
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2019
The Buffalo and Erie County Naval & Military Park is the largest inland naval park in the United States. We are home to several decommissioned U.S. Naval vessels, including the Cleveland/Galveston-class cruiser USS Little Rock CLG-4, the Fletcher-class destroyer USS The Sullivans DD-537, and the Gato-class submarine USS Croaker SSK-246.
The videos on our channel highlight areas of our ships, our collections, and areas we find unique and interesting. This channel is for anyone who is interested in and has followed Naval history, or would like to learn more about the ships we preserve under our care.
To support this channel and the Buffalo Naval Park, please visit:
buffalonavalpark.org/support-us/donate/
The videos on our channel highlight areas of our ships, our collections, and areas we find unique and interesting. This channel is for anyone who is interested in and has followed Naval history, or would like to learn more about the ships we preserve under our care.
To support this channel and the Buffalo Naval Park, please visit:
buffalonavalpark.org/support-us/donate/
Museum Ship Musings: Dry Docking, Off-Season, and Beyond!
Hello all,
Shane from the Buffalo Naval Park will review a little of what's going on now that the season is over!
He'll talk about successes from 2024, what's in store for the '24-'25 Winter Season, some collaborations that are smoldering in the fire, and some HNSA Symposium and dry dock conversation.
Hope you enjoy this update and thanks as always for your support!
Shane from the Buffalo Naval Park will review a little of what's going on now that the season is over!
He'll talk about successes from 2024, what's in store for the '24-'25 Winter Season, some collaborations that are smoldering in the fire, and some HNSA Symposium and dry dock conversation.
Hope you enjoy this update and thanks as always for your support!
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One blast or Two but 29 dead.
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Hello all, On this day, the 49th Anniversary of the sinking of Edmund Fitzgerald, Shane goes back to the newsletter, Telescope, to again talk about a different tragedy. A collision between the Superior City and Willis L King lake freighters. He maps out for you the collision accounts, as they were vastly different when the case was being decided in court. Ultimately, the judge found both ships ...
Artifact removal begins in preparation for dry docking!
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Hello all, As we get closer and closer to dry docking The Sullivans and Croaker, it's important to remove the artifacts that are remaining on board. While we're still at least a year of way, with a project this large and complex starting on it sooner is always better, and less hectic! Today, a dedicated and passionate group of 10 volunteers came on board and we accomplished what I had laid out ...
Investigating Bell Aircraft's P-39, Snooks 2nd
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Hello all - In this final installment of the P-39 Series, Shane and David take you on a 30 minute tour around the Buffalo Naval Park's P-39, Snooks 2nd. The history is shared, and where the potential camera was for it's recon work. You'll also learn more about the serial (tail) numbers of the Bell Aircraft Corp., and more about the two pilots that are highlighted with these planes, the USSR pil...
An Archaeological Tour of USS Little Rock's Superstructure, Part II
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Hello all - In this Part II of USS Little Rock's superstructure archaeology, Lucas, Shane and Ryan head outside midships to discuss the scars left over from the conversion. Come along and see the welds that show these changes. There are some surprising finds. Institutional knowledge here at the Park stated that the whole superstructure was removed and the new one placed on between 1957 - 1960. ...
An Archaeological Tour of USS Little Rock's Superstructure, Part I
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Hello all, Lucas, Ryan and Shane head to the interior of the superstructure to discuss some of the extremely exciting changes from 1945, 1947, and then when she came back into service in 1960. We discuss the 02 and 03 levels and go into great detail. Hope you continue to enjoy this tour. We enjoy researching and bringing you these videos! Thanks for your continued support! Links for other video...
What's up with the modified weld on USS Little Rock's Turret 61
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Hello all, Shane walks around the Turret 61 and highlights a blank and weld that many visitors ask about. This weld and blank was where Turret 61's Rangefinder's hood and shutter extended from. He'll try to solve the mystery of when the rangefinder was removed and when the blank was welded into place. In the title screen, you can see rangefinders on both Turret 61 and Turret 62. This image is t...
The Archaeology of USS Croaker's Bridge
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Hello all - Thanks again to Lucas and Ryan for their continued engagement. In today's video we examine the bridge, lookouts, and the ways to access it. In this video, we mainly used photographic evidence as opposed to blueprint evidence, but you'll learn some of those changes that you can see just walking on the main deck. Appreciate your continued support as always!
The disappointing archaeology of USS Croaker's Conning Tower
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Hello all, Lucas, Ryan and Shane head up to Croaker's conning tower. They reveal a disappointing space, with much of the equipment removed. Shane does reveal a few interesting facts that he learned and he'll share those stories with you. Thanks for all your continued support! Here's a video about the GUPPY conversion: th-cam.com/video/XBGVHZILKa4/w-d-xo.html
Astounding artifacts revealed in P-39, Miss Lend Lease!
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Hello all - In this last installment of our visit with David to the Niagara Aerospace Museum, David reveals two amazing finds related to Rosie the Riveters who worked at the Bell Aircraft Corporation Niagara Falls, NY plant. Come along to learn more about these amazing finds! Again, as David states: "We let the plane tell her own story". Please consider helping the Niagara Aerospace Museum cont...
Crash investigation and fate of the pilot: Bell Aircraft's Miss Lend Lease
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Hello all - In this second episode, Shane sits down with David from the Niagara Aerospace Museum to discuss their investigation into the crash and fate of the Russian pilot, 2nd, Lt. Ivan Baranovsky as he landed in Lake Mart - Yavr in Northwest USSR. David let's the plane itself tell the story, and you'll hear the incredible details of the story here. Can't thank David enough for his work and r...
Investigating Bell Aircraft's P-39, Miss Lend Lease
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Hello all - In this first episode, Shane introduces David Faix from the Niagara Aerospace Museum, a museum in Niagara Falls, NY dedicated to aircraft and helicopter production here in Western New York. Like the Buffalo Naval Park, they have a P-39 Airacobra, called "Miss Lend Lease". They display her in quite a unique and different way from how we display Snooks 2nd. Come along for this fascina...
The tragic history of the Great Lakes Steamer Wisconsin
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Hello all - Here is a PowerPoint presentation about the Great Lake Steamer Wisconsin. Her 48 year history saw two fires, and her ultimate sinking. I hope you enjoy this presentation. Please leave a comment below if you'd like to see more of these stories! The title screen is of the General Slocum, which I briefly talk about in the video. It's just a fascinating lithograph, I had to use it!
Deep dive into P-39 "Miss Lend Lease": Preview
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Deep dive into P-39 "Miss Lend Lease": Preview
US Sixth Fleet\\Villefranche Sur Mer Exhibit on USS Little Rock
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US Sixth Fleet\\Villefranche Sur Mer Exhibit on USS Little Rock
VERTIGO! One of many scary verticals on USS Little Rock
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VERTIGO! One of many scary verticals on USS Little Rock
Revisiting Archaeology: The three froward 5" Gun Mounts
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Revisiting Archaeology: The three froward 5" Gun Mounts
Returning to the 5"\\38's archaeology on USS Little Rock
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Returning to the 5"\\38's archaeology on USS Little Rock
A picture leads to more archaeological questions: USS Little Rock's Fantail!
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A picture leads to more archaeological questions: USS Little Rock's Fantail!
What's up with Sully's prop guards!??
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What's up with Sully's prop guards!??
Sully's doghouse: Service or post-service addition??
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Sully's doghouse: Service or post-service addition??
Why the expanded deckhouse on USS The Sullivans?
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Why the expanded deckhouse on USS The Sullivans?
Where's the door to the head?: USS The Sullivans
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Where's the door to the head?: USS The Sullivans
Pride in Achievement: The Story of USS Little Rock
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Pride in Achievement: The Story of USS Little Rock
The catapult launching system aboard Cleveland Class Cruisers explained!
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The catapult launching system aboard Cleveland Class Cruisers explained!
Stem to Stern: The USS Little Rock's Archaeological Trek, Ep. 6
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Stem to Stern: The USS Little Rock's Archaeological Trek, Ep. 6
The Sullivans Dry Dock Series: What are some spaces that will need artifact removal?
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The Sullivans Dry Dock Series: What are some spaces that will need artifact removal?
Neighbors of the Naval Park: USS The Sullivan booth at the Erie County Fair
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Neighbors of the Naval Park: USS The Sullivan booth at the Erie County Fair
MASSIVE and amazing news about USS The Sullivans!
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MASSIVE and amazing news about USS The Sullivans!
Stem to Stern: The USS Little Rock's Archaeological Trek, Ep. 5
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Stem to Stern: The USS Little Rock's Archaeological Trek, Ep. 5
The stand on the bridge supported the TBT (target bearing transmitter). On it was a set of special binoculars and below it was the gyro compass repeater. The binoculars could swing freely and had a gripping handle on either side. On one of the handles was a transmitter button that, when depressed, transmitted the bearing of the binoculars to the TBT in the conning tower. These were binoculars were watertight and were left on the bridge when the boat dove. The tubular shaped locker appears to be a ready ammo locker that was retained when the boat was converted from its original configuration and the sail installed. We had several five-inch lockers aboard Carp that were mounted in the superstructure and were used for miscellaneous storage, such as paint, the paint sprayer, and other items used by the seaman gang when in port. The protective plexiglass dodger the swing down into the bridge, was called "the bubble" and provided protection from spray for the OOD -- it was not of any use for the lookouts. The are forward of the bridge (known as the doghouse) had the magnesyn compass and its transmitter -- the magnesyn repeater was mounted in the conning tower within view of the helmsman who could use it when the gyrocompass died.
Thank you for this presentation! I enjoy learning about the behind the scenes side of things!
Can a replica be made? Of Plaque
Thanks for the presentation and the great news, i'm glad to hear it! I would love to come up for one of your winter tours too. Since it's almost Thanksgiving, i've got to tell you that a short time ago, my uncle gave me a box of stuff that was my grandfather's that passed back in 1998. He was a LST sailor in WW2, and i was looking through his Bluejackets manual and found a Thanksgiving menu from the USS NEW ORLEANS, pretty cool!
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours
That record is a 78 RPM record, it is a real treasure the 45 didn't come out until the early 50s and the LP in the late 40s.
Cool updates! Hope the winter tours go well, I’m especially interested in the ship archeology one, as you know that’s a particular interest of mine lol. Maybe I’ll be able to make it up for one. Making the booklet of general plans available is pretty cool. One idea that I thought might be cool is making a poster out of some of them to sell, or putting images from it on shirts and such. I was actually wanting to ask you at some point if you had any plans to collaborate with Haida. In addition to being too far from Buffalo, both her and The Sullivans entered service in the same year and were decommissioned within a few years of each other. It’s a really nice apples to apples comparison of American versus Royal Navy design doctrines imo, so I’m happy to see you guys have plans.
It sounds like an interesting tour group, but I can't travel from SC, to NY without freezing to death.
That looks like a 78 rpm. Not 45
We need to cut all funds for that country. They only see us as subhuman.
Hello from Jamestown
GOD BLESS YOU JOHN AND SEMPER FI!!
We honor and remember!
Catching you on the replay. For John from the Slater, "The Enemy Below" is a 1950s film with a destroyer escort vs. submarine duel. Stars Robert Mitchum as the DE commander.. There is at least one version on TH-cam.
Thanks, amnucc. That is a great film for sure! I'll make sure John sees it if you haven't already posted this comment on their TH-cam Channel!!
@@BuffaloNavalPark Shane, I did also post the comment on the Slater channel.
You've got until as long as some one talks & until all of the story is done.,I would be like a ad.'s interupting.,So,The rules suck.
Sorry about those ads! Thanks for watching.
Midway is a great movie and doesn't deserve the hate it gets
Interesting comment. I thought it was "okay", being from Buffalo I though they downplayed C. Wade McClusky's (native Buffalonian) role in the battle, and focused on Dick Best, when it was really McClusky who located the Japanese Fleet. Thanks for checking out the channel.
It was a Great Live Stream today. I enjoyed watching it & interacting with those on screen & other viewers. 👍
Awesome! Thanks Chopper! Look forward to meeting you next year at the Naval Park!
Battleship Texas Foundation was a good source for plans when they sold some on Ebay for their drydocking fundraising. They are still on that forum selling naval ship plans, to help Battleship Texas.
The SS Superior City back in 1920 would have been a fleet mate to the E. C. Collins named for the Transportation manager of that fleet in 1916. The E. C. Collins later became the cement boat J. B. Ford scrapped in Feb 2021 to August 2022. Both ships were built on the Black River in Lorain, Ohio. The E. C. Collins was a sistership to the MacGilvray Shiras which has a strong connection to Buffalo in 1959. On a side note North of Detroit, Michigan guest of the Harsens Island Historical Society can blast the whistle from the J. B. Ford as a passing salute to ships in the River. One Long and Two Short.
Thanks for commenting.
Really informative video! I had no idea a shell was used in the launching of the planes from the ships. I’m wondering now if this was the procedure on all ships, or certain ones like Little Rock. 🤔
Interesting, as it was refuted by many people in the comment section. I tried to confirm with him and he kept saying it was a shell, as opposed to a gunpowder casing from a 5" but...
Nice
Thanks again MrJeep75. One of those things that I "see" but for a long time, didn't "notice"!
Great news
Thanks so much! It's a long process, but at least it's been started!
Quick foot note. Some of the first built/ early steamers were still built with masts for use with sails as a "back-up" as the "new" technology wasn't fully trusted by ship captains yet. It didn't take long however for steam engines to be proven reliable, and masts were dropped from building plans.... From Lansing, Michigan. Wishing you and your loved ones a great week.
Awesome, thanks so much. At first I thought they were masts, but then they looked very small in diameter and said to myself "those wouldn't be able to carry heavy sails in heavy seas"...again, I appreciate it! Thanks for checking out the channel.
Shane, thank you for answering my questions during the live chat! You and James had an awesome live stream! Thank you so much!
You're welcome theblueriband! Appreciate you joining the video, and glad you got connected to our channel!
It is interesting material you went over.
Thanks Kirk! Glad you enjoyed, and hope all is well with you!
@BuffaloNavalPark I'm okay my friend, it was interesting, you did yourself proud on that episode
Superior City & Willis King
Agreed! Thanks!
It really wasn’t ship maintenance if you watch the video of their director speaking about it the water levels lower and rise up to 6-8 feet in that general berthing area, more and more mud building up, the water level rising caused her to crash onto the mud pit and damaged the hull. Ships need to be in more then just 10-15 of water due to levels rising and dropping in some areas.
Thanks for your comments. Back in 2003 when the ships were moved to this nesting situation, I don't think the staff at the time realized how much dredging would be needed and how much silt could build up. Certainly the pier will be getting a very good dredge when The Sullivans and Croaker leave for dry dock. My goal would be to give another four to five feet of clearance than what was there originally.
@ as I’m a docent on Uss Turner Joy who recently got the water main valve gasket replaced to avoid sinking, I can understand it’s a pretty scary situation, I hope no one was injured, thank you for all you do preserving history.
Ty for this presentation, Shane..very well done 👏. Those were some big gals for back in that time! I've read many books about Great Lakes shipwrecks as I'm just a tad bit obsessed with Maritime history. The Andea Doria and Stockholm is another famous collision ( a book was written about them) Ty for sharing this with us, tc
jolie2861, Happy to bring you this video, and will be bringing more as time goes on. Hmmm...I haven't heard of that collision, I may have to look that one up! Thanks for sharing. If you have others, given you've done a lot of reading on this subject, please share!
@BuffaloNavalPark will do 👍, ty. I miss spelled, should be "Andrea" Doria...fascinating story about when they collided..a woman was thrown from one ship and landed on the other..she supposedly survived 👌. TC, cys on another BNP stream ⚓️
A very interesting story, I have heard of this wreck before. It seems like someone wasn't following the rules of the road.
That is true, Sir! Both Captains were given blame and fault by the judge in the court proceedings! I don't have more information if fines were paid, or restitution to the families of the 29 dead.
@BuffaloNavalPark Thank, you, I grew up on Chapman's book on Piloting. If they were at all close, it called for a port to port passing and both Captains' duty to insure it.
So which Captain was found at fault for this collision? And this is just as interesting Shane.
Actually, they were both found liable during the judge's ruling! Thanks as always, Ed12151.
Thanks Shane, i'm not terribly familiar with this particular wreck. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Glad it gave you a little more knowledge, Jeff!
I wish you put the x of the real position of the wreck with the supposed course of both ships! It would tell me which ship was closer to the true course ! And when found could the rudder position be observed and what direction was it in ?
Great questions - I did what I could with my skill sets...during my research, I did come across the coordinates, so it is out there online. I just didn't know how to translate those coordinates onto a google map!
Please do more!
Thanks Greg...appreciate it, and I will!
There are more wrecks in the GL than the Bermuda Triangle.
Oh my, there are thousands and thousands of wrecks for sure!
I don't follow y'all closely. Great news you all will be dry docking The Sullivans and Croaker !!! I always wish you folks well. There is only so much ship related stuff a person can watch. I followed the immediate efforts to revive The Sullivans. I'll try to pay more attention again for a while.
michaelfrank2266, thanks for checking in from time to time, and offering your support! We don't know yet where or when we will be going, but we're going to be bringing everyone a multi-episode series called in the new year. This will show step-by-step decision making, discussions, leading up to the ships embarking! Thanks again.
Excellent news. Wish I could help but it’s a long commute from the UK…..
Ha! Quite a long trip...but, thanks so much for following us! Cheers!
Awesome, fast video. Honestly didn’t even see you making it. Thank you so much for letting me help out. Can’t wait to come back and help more. Called up several friends and we are researching the RCA equipment in the secondary radio room. Would like your blessing to get more pictures of the radios before the park closes for the season
Thanks weselywood9239! Appreciate your help that day, and there'll be more opportunities to help for sure! Appreciate you reaching out to some friends...we have plenty of equipment in the primary radio room too, which we haven't gotten to yet - but, a lot of loose equipment I'd like to remove off the ship. There will opportunities for sure!
Thanks for the update, Shane, I can't wait to see her Ship shape and, Bristol fashion. This one was perfect for Memorial Day weekend.
Thanks as always, Kirk! Appreciate your support, and for bringing the term "Bristol fashion" to the foreground!! Awesome!
@BuffaloNavalPark Your welcome, it was the full saying and I like it.
Did we miss the announcement of 'when' and 'to where' it's been decided Croaker and The Sullivan's are going? (Last I recall on the subject was the video where you ran through the locations that were under consideration!) 🧐😁
@@wurlyone4685 No, they are still undecided
wurlyone4685...no, those haven't been decided or announced yet. The city of Buffalo is working with naval architects, and will be beginning to discuss shipyards soon. Doesn't mean we'll have that information anytime soon as these are long, complex discussions. When the word does come out, I'll be doing a video about the news! Thanks!
Thanks for keeping us up to date Shane, wish i was there helping out!
Thank you, Jeff! Appreciate it!
Cam saids hello
Hello...Cam...Nice...To...See...You...Again...ha...
It looks like you are going to be very busy for a while. I hope everything transitions smoothly, and I look forward to further videos of the Sullivans and Croker leading up to dry docking.
Thanks bluerebel01...appreciate your support as always! It's going to be a lot of work, but that's why I'm starting now. Dry docking may not happen for a year or more, but the sooner the better...other work has to happen on board 537 and 246 before leaving the pier, and this will make for "clean" vessels for that prep work!
Wow this was fast, I was still driving home when this was uploaded 😂. As I said earlier, it was a pleasure meeting you and I’m glad we were able to surpass your expectations on quickness lol
Thanks so much for your help and support, sirboomsalot4902. Nice to meet you and I'll be in touch with other opportunities!
*_Thats great news for The Sullivans. It's been a long time in coming and I can't wait to see the ship in dry dock. I wish I could volunteer but I live in Washington state. This last year has been great for the museum ships. Long live The Sullivans!!!_* 👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣👣
opieshomeshop! Thank you very much for your support from the West Coast. You'll be getting all the latest updates on the channel when The Sullivans and Croaker do leave for dry dock. Last time Sully was in dry dock was March 1965 - after decommissioning - so it's long past due!
Battleship NJ went through the same thing as you did.Dry docking prep work for a museum ship is a lot of work.Cause everything is handled the extra care.So you will not damage the artifact.Bravo Zulu to each every one of you guys
You are right. And that was one of the things we mentioned with each other on the Zoom call. As of now, we don't know what kind of interior work will be done, but I'll be secure knowing that if they want to do some work, that none of the artifacts put on display will be damaged - I've had enough of that with the sinking of Sully in 2022! Thanks for watching.
And I thought my moving days were bad....
Ha! A lot of help today. Can't thank everyone enough for their time and passion!
something oddly familiar looking here…😁
Yes, I think that it would be quite familiar to you! Thanks for assisting today!
@@BuffaloNavalParkBut of course! My brother and I were glad to be of help today, and look forward to being of assistance once again :)
It's a car type door not a door from a real car.
Okay!
Good video! I’ve been on Drum and Cavalla and they look so different. Croaker of course looks like she got the same treatment that Cavalla got in terms of upgrades. It’s also interesting that Drum and Cavalla are displayed out of water and Croaker isn’t. On a side note, Shane, I sent you an email. If you didn’t get it let me know and I’ll try again!
Yes, both Cavalla and Croaker are the last of the Type II SSK conversions - so, we have SSK244 (Cavalla), SS245 (Cobia), and SSK246 (Croaker) all as museum ships. The other remaining Gato's are still in their WWII configuration (Drum, Cod, Cobia, Silversides). Thanks for your support!
This was simply amazing. The story of The Sullivan brothers is both tragic, and inspiring. Inspiring because they sacrificed everything to serve our country. I’ve heard it said that the story of The Sullivans was Steven Spielbergs inspiration for Saving Private Ryan, although I don’t know for sure. It’s wonderful that the original ship that honors their memory is still with us!
Agreed. An important story for us to continue to tell - and the legacy lives on in USS The Sullivans, DDG68! Thanks for checking out the video!
Hi, my theory is why the female workers signed the piece of work they completed was for quality control and also to start and correspond with any pilot that might fly the aircraft
There were many ideas. We were contacted by the son of one of the Rosies talked about in the video, and he also stated it was his Mom's wish that she would hear from people all over the world - penpals so to speak! Thanks for watching!