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Beautiful

That Arbiter is possibly the best sounding cymbal! And the other is right behind it. Wow!!!! ❤

Everyone who says 2002’s are “rock only” cymbals are probably just not very good drummers. I’m nothing special but they are far more versatile than the haters claim.

Do you believe that the reason for the difference in sound is because 2002's a are cast individually and to a very strict quality control...where as other cymbal manufactures cymbals are cut from a sheet of B8 bronze and pressed into the shape of a cymbal before lathing?

Mr. Fritz: "B15 has both the nice cuttting-through frequencies but also a lot of middle" Spot-on. Love my Sigs.

In Junior high school, we had a set of 18" concert crash cymbals that were 602s. I remember then thinking how nice they sounded. Mellow attack and smooth sound. I got to high school and we had a set of Zildjian 18" and a huge set of 24? Concert crashes. Both had a much harder edge to the sound. Kind of harsh. I even mentioned how nice the Paistes sounded to my ear to my private teacher, we was like, "well that's cool."

Great video.

I also cannot wait!

Can’t wait

What a difference

What did you clean it with?

Thank you. 👍😁

Great video- Ty

Excellent video. Thank you.

Great video!!!

Question. A pair of 14” Giant Beat hats. Giant beat black label at 12 o’clock position above the bell. HI-HAT TOP AND HI-HAT BOTTOM at the 6 o’clock positions. Paiste made in Switzerland Black label hollow logo on under side of both cymbals. Would this be 1973 year? Or do you know what year this would be? No serial number. And no embossed stamp. Thanks for the videos

Excellent report ! Do you have any info on Super cymbals, the pre paistes ? If so would love a report on those. I have seven Supers, and wouldnt trade for anything out there . Perfect sound and pitch with either wood or nylon tips .

This vid and part 1 have given me the best cymbal maintenance education- ever! Most of my Paistes are still within stage one and two condition. I have one 14" 505 that's definitely stage three. The 505 combined with a 3000 sound edge (in pretty crisp condition) make for a pretty nice, darkish sounding x-hat. Still, I want to shine up that 505 for presentation sake. Thanks to this vid, I'm able to do so with confidence. Thanks man!

Such good info. but that music needs to be WAYYYY under....

Great video and history lesson! Thanks … I subbed!

Hello Big Deezy! I’ve recently purchased an 18” Giant Beat from 1973. It has 3 inches of oxidation around the edge of the cymbal and I feel like that makes it not to “crash” very well. I am aware that Giant Beats are Crash/Rides but this one doesn’t crash very well might as well be a dud, but would you recommend me to use Paiste cymbal cleaner for oxidation?

I have the same cymbal!! Mine weighs 2710 grams. At the 9 O'clock position it has a silk screen saying "Special" It sits 50% offset above my 24" Giant beat because I cant pick just one. In person they sound much better than any regularly mic'd youtube video

I could listen to this guy talk about alloys all day.

Curious as to why you skipped over the Paiste Seven Sound Set 7 (a/k/a “Deep Ride”), a Formula 602 precursor to the Dark Ride. That is one superb dark-sounding Paiste cymbal.

Very informative. Thank You. I’ve used bar keepers on my Zildjian years ago but not on my prized Paiste Sound Formula. Do you have a recommendation for those? Still some clear coat but not shiny enough. Thanks

The best cymbals

Awesome thank you!!!!

Loved it! Thanks didn't want it to stop!!!! More more!!!!

Thanks, very informative - maybe to use some sort of reducing/suppressing the plosive syllables like windscreen, pop filter, DAWs deesser etc. in order to improve intelligibility of speech and to be softer for the ears

Sounds beautiful

Nice

Great information

Great information

Interesting, but what the hell is that background music?

Paiste is my favorite company. I only play Paiste vintage like 2002 black label, Stambul65, 602 etc. But, a company would have to be off-the-earth out of touch to not know there was demand for vintage lines such as Giant Beat etc. Just a cursory check of the used markets would be enough to know. Its a terrible thing actually, to want something your whole playing life, and never get to play them because of price and rarity.

I think the black label cymbals are generally thinner than later red labels. My black 24" ride weighs 3480grams and my red label 24" ride is 4001grams. My 1974 15" SE black label hats are 1135/1134grams top/bottom while my red label SE hats are 1265/1272grams. All my black crashes weigh between 50 and 150grams less than the same size reds I have. Just my observations and measurements from owning over 30 black labels and 20 red label 2002's.

That is a GORGEOUS cymbal!!

Thanks a lot! I am 55 and I have been playing Paiste 2002 for all my life. Great cymbals!

What a work! Thanks for this video

Great distinct/clarity sound ! Love my Supers since 1965 ! I use nylon tips only .

Wow, thanks for this. Never seen a set of these in 13. They must be super rare?

Hey dan can I send you an email with a question? Thanks

Great content.

That Arbiter is 😍😍😍

I have this same one in mint condition!

It's apparent that with Masters they use a Turkish alloy. I had a whole set, but moved them on. They didn't do it for me, not Paiste enough. Today I use 602, 602 ME (darker) 2002 Big Beat ( B8, thinner 602 ME hammering) and PSTX. Paiste has so much to offer.

I own a 22 Sound Creation Dark Ride (Mk 3) from 1983, 3295 grams, without the printed words 'New Dimension'. It only has the big round logo and 'Dark Ride' stamp. I've been playing it in a big band setting in Austria for more than 20 yrs. I simply love it. 🙂

Love them!!! My favs are the dyna star, and the 20s. Wow!!! 😍😍😍🤩 They are all so wonderful! Great collection!!

That 22 🤩😍😍

Wow! They all sound fantastic!