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Rey Is A Dead End For Star Wars
The Star Wars saga has been written into a corner with its failure to develop the character Rey.
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  • @Verebazs
    @Verebazs 18 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Literally laaughed out loud at Jeff Bezos as an example for kind of foul creatures that might be lurking beneath Middle-Earth. Thanks I needed that.

  • @Andy.Pandy97
    @Andy.Pandy97 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The problem with Rey is that - after Episode Nine - her character is left in such a basic place of familiarity. That wherever they try to take the character will feel like a retread. She's the (grand)daughter of a power Sith Lord, who became a force for good and tries to rebuild the jedi order. It's literally Luke. For all it's faults, Episode Eight at least left Rey in a different position. She wasn't the daughter of anyone important. She had to define her own future, because no magical ancestor was going to help. Or give her the option. Had Lucasfilm followed through on that arc - with Trevorrow's Episode Nine script, or sum such. Then, Rey would be in left in a position of acting as a different kind of Jedi. Almost an unknown entity. Not entirely committed to the order. Nor entirely opposed to it. Leading her to ask question that the previous order, or Jedi, did not. Like, Luke or Obi-Wan. It could have started to explore a Jedi Order that embraces Grey Jedi, or similar philosophies. Which lead Rey having to learn hard truths about the previous Jedi order's, and about her own. As she has to question if their is a place for Jedi, in this new Galaxy. As Anakin; and Luke knew them.

  • @Raymaster7482
    @Raymaster7482 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    True BUT you can always reset your old characters like they did with Han... or make them depressed and miserable like Luke. Don't get me wrong, I don't think that's the right way forward but it's the easiest (even if it doesn't make sense and angers the fans)

  • @Daumat_
    @Daumat_ 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Cool video man! I am deffinently making a song with these chords :)

  • @PonderingPyramids
    @PonderingPyramids 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The problem is they made Rey a Palpatine. The emperor’s granddaughter is the hero, and stole the Skywalker name…? What?!

  • @erentheca
    @erentheca 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The franchise needed to evolve to keep going, not ape its prior notes, and certainly not in the hollow way it did. If Episodes 4-6 contrasted the Rebels and the Empire, 1-3 explained how the Old Republic became the Empire, then 7-9 should have been the struggle and sacrifices over whether the New Republic would follow the same path as the Old Republic, not due to the scheming of a Sith in the shadows, but due to very real pressures of holding a fractured galaxy together and if the means of doing so really justify the ends. They didn't need a reboot Empire as an outside antagonist. Perhaps the once rag tag Rebel Alliance - now Republic fleet - starts to act in ways the Empire once did, and some dissidents, under the Imperial Remnant banner, take on the noble and scrappy characteristics of the Rebels. Maybe, by Episode 9, we feel very torn by the decisions Leia continues to make, while we start rooting for an underdog who dons dirty stormtrooper armor.

  • @briandt75
    @briandt75 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ya fucking nailed it. Rey has had no character arc whatsoever. She's the definition of a "Mary Sue", and there is really nowhere for the character to go, emotionally, or narratively that won't seem forced (no pun).

  • @mrfld
    @mrfld 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If you do a Rey Kenobi movie, you need a different actor. DR is too young. You need an older actor so there can be a time jump.

  • @theclanguagedeveloper5309
    @theclanguagedeveloper5309 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    If I were Disney, I would basically canonize Star Wars Legend, de-canonize the Disney's original trilogy for 7-9/High Republic and apologize to the fans. Possibly fire Kathleen Kennedy to give a signal to people to know that there is a shake up. But that would never happen unfortunately.

  • @sheadoolittle
    @sheadoolittle 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Rey was a dead start

  • @RecklessLife76
    @RecklessLife76 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why don't they just dismiss episodes 7, 8, and 9 and start over. It has been done by other franchises to much success. Own your mistakes and write a quality story.

  • @JADub87
    @JADub87 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I agree with many of the creator's points, but at the end of the day...Disney has to carry on with Rey. They need to make sure they properly plan these movies going forward or they really kill the franchise. I know some people claim SW is dead...it may be dead to them as individuals, but they don't speak for me or many others. Episodes 7 - 9 are the final time you'll see the OG actors in their iconic roles...THESE FILMS WILL NOT BE RETCONNED or DE-CANONIZED FOR THAT ALONE! They have no choice but to carry on.

  • @indecay8756
    @indecay8756 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I know the solution: we need a new death star that can destroy galaxies with one shot

  • @knowledgewizdom3234
    @knowledgewizdom3234 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    They better make the movie I love Rouge 0ne

  • @StarryDrukhari
    @StarryDrukhari 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It'll be Rey versus the galactic patriarchy. They hired the perfect director for that.

  • @collegeman1988
    @collegeman1988 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Star Wars is the hero’s journey. Disney Star Wars completely abandoned George Lucas’s story treatments for what would have included the hero’s journey in the sequel trilogy, and so Disney destroyed characters we loved from the original trilogy, and wasted any opportunities available for the new characters they created. After what transpired in episodes 7, 8 and 9, no one has a vested interest in the characters, and so developing any more movies people will want to see is impossible.

  • @LabyrinthMike
    @LabyrinthMike 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    There are a lot of problems with the sequels, but Kylo Ren is the one who confused me the most. He's a good guy who turned to the dark side because Luke Skywalker decided to try and kill him (for some reason). Perhaps if they didn't expend so much time trying to make sense of why Han and Leia's son turned to the dark side, then they could had a good story arc for Rey. Perhaps it would have been more satisfying if Rey was Han and Leia's daughter. Given the amount of rec-conning that went on in episode 5 and 6, it is clear that Luke wasn't originally Vader's son, so perhaps they thought they could make it up as they went along again. Afterall, it worked the first time. Actually, I think that you're giving Lucas too much credit. I think that he's very fond of making the story up as he goes along, and that's what explains the prequels.

  • @BaldPerspective
    @BaldPerspective 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Lmao, short-term goals; they sure did. Star Wars has made Disney billions of fkn dollars, but that's because of the goodwill the series developed by its creator, George Lucas. The Disney works seem to have generated more apathy than goodwill. If they ever actually release a movie other than the Mando one, they are going to have a hard time getting a movie that will earn $$$ & have even a fraction of the cultural attention they desperately want.

  • @vintagetrikesandquads4012
    @vintagetrikesandquads4012 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What they did to Luke's character was criminal--they turned him into a wimp. He should have played a much larger role in her development. Maybe make her cocky at first, but then he shows her she has a lot to learn. As they wrote it, he's just there to marvel at her raw talent.

  • @chrisj617
    @chrisj617 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    They can fix it in a few words: Deadpool & Rey. "I'm not just any Rey. I'm the worst version of Rey."

  • @beefgoat80
    @beefgoat80 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I have no interest in seeing episode 10, 11, or 12 in the theater. The Rise of Palpatine was the first time I'd skipped seeing a Star Wars film in the theater. And I went to see the special editions of the original trilogy when they came out in theaters in the 90s (yeah, I'm in my 40s). The Acolyte killed any lingering hope I had for Disney Star Wars.

  • @MartyMcTube
    @MartyMcTube 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The sequels is what you get when you replace Carl Jung with Karl Marx.

  • @LordDementus1987
    @LordDementus1987 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Disney's problem is that there's too many cooks in the kitchen. You can't make a good movie or series by committee. The sequel trilogy doesn't matter to us longtime fans. It's not relevant to the story of Star Wars which was supposed to be about Anakin Skywalker's fall to the dark side and Darth Vader's redemption.

  • @jameswheeler5260
    @jameswheeler5260 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I mean, the answer, from a storytelling sense, is quite simple. You don't make Rey the protagonist of the new trilogy. She's graduated to the Obi-Wan Kenobi tier, serving as mentor figure to a new protagonist. Maybe the broom kid or something, now grown up to a dashing pirate lad of about twenty, with amazing luck because he's force sensitive. This stuff kind of writes itself. But the point is, if Rey is a flat character with no possible internal arc, you simply use her in an iconic hero role, make her the next trilogy's Gandalf. And for a twist we'll actually appreciate, because it's not the exact same thing the other trilogies all did...just don't kill the mentor this time. Have her graduate to...I don't know...something NEW you come up with.

  • @dbentertainment9148
    @dbentertainment9148 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    They should do a Rey Star Wars Musical like Joker 2 at this point. Include comedy.

  • @BrentLeVasseur
    @BrentLeVasseur วันที่ผ่านมา

    Same thing for Bernard Hermann’s score for the Day The Earth Stood Still.

  • @QuizmasterLaw
    @QuizmasterLaw วันที่ผ่านมา

    what shocks me about SW is: how you can go from one, exactly one, really well done movie and spint it off into another dozen movies that absolutely suck. I saw the empire strikes back and was not well enthused. i later saw return of the jedi, and was frankly disappointed. i have not watched one minute of it since and am SOooooooooo glad I "missed out"!

  • @clownocaustsupporter9289
    @clownocaustsupporter9289 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The only thing this does is affect my autistic mind and make me hate music as it supplements bad story telling. Just tell a good story. Only an idiot can't see through the emotional B-Shid.

  • @KARMAFORFUN
    @KARMAFORFUN วันที่ผ่านมา

    We are literally told the answer when they say in a galaxy far far away its implies we share the same universe

  • @SMLAllen2
    @SMLAllen2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you are spot on. There is nowhere to go with Rey. She didn't grow or change in 3 films, and it's too late for her now to make changes. It's a dead end.

  • @williamsteffey3434
    @williamsteffey3434 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How Disney handled Star Wars will be studied in film business classes for decades. It’s literally the biggest blunder a Hollywood studio has ever made. The only ways out now are either to remove the sequel trilogy from cannon all together, or do a massive time jump and essentially start over. What they should have done from the outset is just recast the leads from the original’s and start after Return of the Jedi.

  • @toymen-ze3zr
    @toymen-ze3zr วันที่ผ่านมา

    So dumb, how do people exist in another galaxy ?

    • @Cat-uv7dy
      @Cat-uv7dy 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      star wars

  • @xILLxChronic
    @xILLxChronic วันที่ผ่านมา

    The older I get, the more I hate Star Wars.

  • @DanielAyala-z8p
    @DanielAyala-z8p วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was a great video. I think you need to start off with John Lennon first and after that Ringo or George or George and Ringo whatever order. I would end it with Paul because in the end, Paul was pretty much calling all the shots which kind of pissed the other three off and it ends with them on the rooftop.

  • @DanielAyala-z8p
    @DanielAyala-z8p วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was a great video. I think you need to start off with John Lennon first and after that Ringo or George or George and Ringo whatever order. I would end it with Paul because in the end, Paul was pretty much calling all the shots which kind of pissed the other three off and it ends with them on the rooftop, j

  • @Bamgeutcutiepie
    @Bamgeutcutiepie วันที่ผ่านมา

    oh young elijah💜 my very first crush. i was 10 when i saw this movie in cinema on 2001. seems like yesterday bc of how big of an impact this movie had on the world. filled with toys in many stores. even little figures collecting in ice cream xD posters everywhere in my little home town. ah it is such a core memory. frodo is my forever hero. love this story so much.

  • @DJ_Force
    @DJ_Force วันที่ผ่านมา

    Disney treated Star Wars not as a story, but an IP to milk. Rey wasn't written to go on a journey, she was written as wish fulfillment for those angry at women being rescued by men.

  • @glydizagzakk
    @glydizagzakk วันที่ผ่านมา

    It does if you've had watched the rouge one

  • @Ronkly
    @Ronkly วันที่ผ่านมา

    Obi-Wan Kenobi proves that he's real in our world

  • @jaieregilmore971
    @jaieregilmore971 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rey is not teacher material she doesn’t face any consequences of her actions or failures to learn from put in simply she pretty much a self insert instead of actual character.

  • @davidmiller5131
    @davidmiller5131 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The fact she is a crap actress has a lot to do with it

  • @RaikenXion
    @RaikenXion วันที่ผ่านมา

    You know how the "Progressive radical Left" really believed they were the majority and that most inn the US thought exactly like they do? Only to be brought smack down to *Reality* when majority of the Country unanimously voted for Trump? This is what's basically going to happen to Disney. Right now Disney and KK both actually believe that most starwarrs fans simply love Rey, and the ones that don't are all just ists and phobes. When they make this Rey movie, whatever they plan it to be (remember the Dark Universe!? lol), when it bombs hard at the global box-office, that's when Disney and KK will realize the absolute *Truth* that most fans out there dont like Rey because of how badly the character was handled, putting down Luke and character assassinating him, in order to proper her up.

  • @job4391
    @job4391 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Darth jar jar is the key, I'm not kidding.

  • @flavadave3943
    @flavadave3943 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very well said.

  • @HappyPursuits
    @HappyPursuits วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rey is PREGNANT with Skywalker twins. Pay attention in RoS.

    • @StarryDrukhari
      @StarryDrukhari 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Attention to what? Did she and Kylo Ren smash off-screen?

  • @That_FantasyAnalyst
    @That_FantasyAnalyst วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro is an absolute genius

  • @GiovanniBottaMuteWinter
    @GiovanniBottaMuteWinter วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here’s a way to save the franchise: in the next episode we learn that episode 9 was all a dream and Palpatine isn’t back and Rey isn’t related to him!

  • @wolfm33
    @wolfm33 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not just Rey. It's the entire time period. Palpatine is dead (hopefully permanently) and there's no other threat in sight. What will the new movies be about? Rebuilding the republic? Rebuilding the Jedi Order? Fighting more imperial remnants? Perhaps create a new extra galactic threat like in the EU-Legends?

    • @theartofstorytelling1
      @theartofstorytelling1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a good question. Right off the bat, "rebuilding the Jedi order" just doesn't sound like a story. The premise itself is dull. "Rebuilding the brand equity of the franchise" is really what they mean, and I think that ship has sailed. I hope I'm proven wrong though!

  • @kunserndsittizen2655
    @kunserndsittizen2655 วันที่ผ่านมา

    She’s a great character excellently written and performed...

  • @superslavco7332
    @superslavco7332 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't see the problem. Palpatine will somehow come back again. Duh!