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I’m not sure what specific verse you are referring to that uses the word purifies. But from my studies, regarding the work Jesus, in every instance, where the word purifies is used, it does not refer to an ongoing action that has to happen again and again. It’s a once for all. Which would defend this verse perfectly: For by that one offering he FOREVER made perfect those who are being made holy. Hebrew 10:14 The moment we are saved, we have eternal salvation. The word, internal meetings, without an end. Meaning, it can’t be revoked. That again supports that we are not being forgiven one moment, and then starting over the next. Of course, I’m sure you know we do not purify ourselves. He purifies us. Our only role to be purified is to have faith and receive Jesus. If you have a specific verse, you’d like me to address, I’d be very happy to talk about.

@@jesuswithoutreligion, I was referring to 1 John 3:3 where it says everyone who has this hope purifies himself. First of all, I’m with you on the grace doctrine. I don’t have any questions on the finished work of the cross and that we are saved by his purification. But I’m finding it hard to reconcile this verse, like it says “purifies” as in present tense. Also, to add to it says “purifies himself”, and when I checked the Greek grammar it says that it is an action done by the person in this verb. I’m confused what this verse really means (not on the grace part, and finished work of Christ).

@@PrinceMA10c034 Great point. I think the starting point is what is “this hope” that people have? It’s the hope we have in the gospel of grace. Jesus. That we are children of God. That we will one day be like him, and we shall see him as he is. In summary, this Hope is referring to our faith. So the context about purifying ourselves is saying that our role was we had the faith. We believed. In verse 4 it talks about everyone who did not do that. It says everyone who sins breaks the law. And of course, we know that the wages of sin is death. But then, in the very next verse that describes Christians - It talks about Him taking away our sins. And there’s no mention of some of them, or having to do it over and over again. I don’t know if this will help, but let me share of this. I think many Christians with good intentions, can easily focus on outward sins as they think about their identity and forgiveness. And to be clear, we should absolutely avoid sin. However, not a single human has ever be saved by avoiding sin. Sin is more of a side effect of being spiritually dead. What all of us need his new life. We need to be born again. No one has ever been saved by avoiding sin. And likewise, none of us retain our salvation by avoiding sin. The moment we believe, we are born again. New creations. The old is gone. You literally immediately have been spiritually born again the second you believe.. This reminds me of Nicodemus. He wanted to know how he could inherit eternal life/the Kingdom. The answer was simple. You need to be born of water (that’s mom), and then born of the spirit (that Jesus, through faith). We've all been born physically from our mother. What's the lattice we need to be born spiritually. And we can only do that for Faith.. We do see this phrase to 'repent and believe' for salvation. But in 100% of those times the writer is addressing Jewish people who are rejecting Jesus. While of course they should turn from there outward sin, the context of repent and believe is calling them to turn from (repent) their unbelief and believe that no one comes to the Father except through Jesus. If this verse talking about 'purifying ourselves' was by avoiding outward sin, we would literally be in a constant state of being saved one moment, and then, not the next. And if we were saved by avoiding sin, that would be salvation through the law. Works based, salvation. GALATIANS 2:21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing! So the law says do not lie. Do not steal. Do not commit adultery. Etc. And apparently salvation cannot be acquired by avoiding those things. The Scriptures tell us that through the law no one will be found righteous. EPHESIANS 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. And please don’t think I’m trying to be condescending. I am not even trying to tread within 100 miles of coming across that way. I’m fairly confident you are very familiar with this verse. I guess the point I will try to make is that this again is reiterating salvation has absolutely zero to do with us. It is nothing to do with how often or a little we commit outward sin. It is a gift. And the only one we have is to receive it is our free will through Faith. Verses like the last two I shared completely debunk any idea of purifying ourselves by avoiding outward sin. And of course, I always wrap up by saying that in no way implies that sin is okay. It is not. We are called to live upright, godly lives. We are called to avoid sin. But that’s because we should live out on the outside what’s been worked in on the inside. But our sins are remembered no more. Fully paid for on the cross. We don’t avoid sin for any other reason than the fact that we are not made for sin. We are made for good works, and we we are never really fulfilled when we are living ungodly lives. I hope that helps a little.

I deeply appreciate when people take the time to offer kind words and encouragement-it’s a meaningful way to remind each other of God’s grace. I’m sorry to hear that you feel the evil one has led you astray. But I want you to know this: it hasn’t changed your salvation or how much God loves you. Not even a little. It’s not so much that you’ve “lost your faith.” It’s more likely that you’ve been caught up in the temptations of the flesh. Please know, you’re not alone in this-far from it. The Corinthians come to mind. They engaged in all kinds of sins: orgies, extreme drunkenness, abuse of the Lord’s Supper, and more. Yet Paul still addressed them as Saints. He assured them that they would be presented as blameless in the end and reminded them that they lacked no spiritual gift. The same is true for you. Let me encourage you to shift your focus. Spend more time reflecting on what Jesus has done for you, rather than dwelling on where you feel you’re falling short. When we fixate on our sins, we tend to spiral into despair. Instead, fix your eyes on His strength, His grace, and His love. Your weakness is not the focus of the gospel-Jesus’ strength is. Regarding your faith: remember God’s promise that even when you are faithless, He remains faithful. He has vowed never to leave you or forsake you. So even in this season where you feel distant or lost in sin, God has not turned away from you, and He never will. You mentioned that “Christ won’t die for you twice,” and you’re absolutely right. But that’s because He doesn’t need to. Under the old covenant, sacrifices of bulls and goats were required year after year because their blood could never fully take away sins. But Jesus’ death was different. It was a once-for-all sacrifice. When He died, He sat down at the right hand of the Father-a powerful declaration that His work was finished. Keep in mind, when Jesus died, every one of your sins was still in the FUTHER, and He paid for them all. Now, let’s look at Hebrews 10:26: *If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left.* This verse is often misunderstood. For context: 1-Hebrews was written to Jewish people. 2-The Jews were deeply attached to the law, believing human performance could cleanse sin. 3-They were focused on outward appearances and actions. 4-Many were rejecting Jesus and His claim to be one with the Father. If you read the first 10 chapters of Hebrews, you’ll notice the letter doesn’t mention even ONE outward sin like lying, stealing, or adultery. Instead, it addresses one specific sin: UNBELIEF-rejecting Jesus as the Messiah. That because the problem the Jews had was NOT outward sin. Their problem was denying Jesus, and the writer has a heart for them to be saved. That is our context. With that in mind, the “deliberate sin” in Hebrews 10:26 is the sin of rejecting Jesus after knowing the truth about Him. The “knowledge of the truth” refers to the gospel of Christ. And why is “no sacrifice left for sins”? Because rejecting Jesus means rejecting the only sufficient sacrifice for sin. There is no other way to the Father except through the Son. Here’s the good news: Jesus’ sacrifice is full payment every outward sin you will ever commit. The only sin it does not paid for is unbelief-rejecting Him altogether. Refusing the free gift of salvation, apart from works. When you truly grasp that Jesus has made you clean, forgiven, and close to God, your heart will begin to change. Over time, your desires will align more with His, and the pull of the flesh will weaken. This transformation may take months or even years, but the key is to keep your affection set on Him. He is faithful to finish the good work He started in you - Philippians 1:6. Remember, you are loved. You are His. And nothing can separate you from His love. Not even when we make bad decisions to engage in sin. Sin is the problem. Jesus is the solution. Your sins are NOT bigger than His blood. Believe Him that He remembers your sins no more. Believe that He has taken them away, and when you do, you will begin to renew your mind and your walk will improve :)

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Yeah, this isn’t talking about works at all. The entire parable is about belief, or more accurately unbelief. If you’ll notice, the rich man is incomplete torment, and he’s begging Abraham to go warn his family, so this doesn’t happen to them. Notice the response: *“Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’* So the point is it doesn’t matter who these people hear the message of Jesus from. They’re just not going to believe it. Even when Jesus died and was resurrected, they still rejected the gospel message.

I think I would begin by saying that it is not us who give our life to Christ. It is Christ who gave His life to and for us. However, I don’t really think most people who use that phrase use it with bad intentions. At the core, I think all they are really trying to say is that, as believers, they want to show that to the world through the way they live, and love others. The ones I think we need to watch out for are the people who turn this expression in some kind of a laundry list of things you MUST do in order to be a true Christian. Truth be known, God is not served by human hands as if He needed anything - Acts 17:25. So if we’re doing good works as if we were impressing Him, for somehow helping Him, that would be for selfish motives. Non-selfish Christians are giving their lives to other people, and simply outflow of what has already been worked inside of us. Love. Bottom line, if there is any ‘giving our lives to Jesus’ I would say that is simply accomplished by loving OTHERS as He loves us. Hope that helps.

The NIV (and others) have recently revisited their translation of suggesting that believers have two natures. They realized their translation was incorrect. You have one nature.. You have a new heart, and a new spirit. The old you has died. You have a new nature, and is not conflicting with the evil one. That doesn't mean we don't still struggle with sin. As you alluded to, the flesh is still the problem. It's what the enemy, uses to tempt us, and lead us astray. But the enemy is not a flesh and blood. It is an external source.. The apostle Paul does not call us to crucify the flesh daily. Not even close to that. As believers, we are to crucified, but only ONCE. You can’t crucify yourself. So this is something that is being done spiritually, by God. Not because you perform well. God does this moment you put your faith in him. No scripture teaches us to kill ourselves day after day. It seems as if you are suggesting that we are evil, and we need to get out of God’s way.That is not who we are as God’s children. God wants to work with us, and threw us. If you’re referring to the verse or he said "I die daily", I thing you’ve completely missed the context. The Apostle Paul was being chased by wild animals, and facing all kinds of tribulation when he was sharing the gospel. By saying "I die daily", he was not referring to crucifying himself. He was describing his life during his mission. It is true by one offering He has perfected us. It’s not for our perfection. It’s by His offering and sacrificing His own body and blood to be the complete for propitiation for OUR sin. HE made us holy, not us and our performance. HE sanctified us, not us and our ability to stop sinning. My friend, if we say we are without sin, we are a liar, and the truth is not us. I think this idea of casually sinning vs. obnoxiously signing is a man-made theology, and should not be taken too seriously at all. The wages of sin is death. It only takes one. This idea that forgiveness or godliness is attached to this idea of watering it down by how many times we sin, or how big the sin is, seems to be very much a man-made teaching. Yes, let’s avoid sin. Let’s live in like exude the love of Jesus. Nobody is teaching differently. Let’s be careful not to allow the grace of God and His forgiveness to be used as a weapon, suggesting that somehow we become more evil with too much grace. There is not one Christian in all of humanity that never sins again after salvation.

@@jesuswithoutreligion ​​⁠ Wrong! You have 2 natures until you die! This is so obvious it is ridiculous to even respond to such error. Paul says we have 2 natures regardless of translations and you know it….! Once you are born again your dead spirit is gone forevermore now you have eternal life in your new spirit body but you still occupy this body of sin…(flesh). 1 Corinthians 15:44 KJV 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. there is more context in verses 40-53 All calls to live by the spirit are for a reason because our flesh wars against God he wants us to live in dominion over the flesh not in subjection to it. It is not a contest to see who is most holy so they can boast before God and men. No one gains or earns access to heaven and eternal life because of their lack of sin compared to the next guy! 😂 Don’t confuse the free gift of eternal life with rewards based on how we live! Both are true but don’t contradict each other.

@@downbythesea1071 I think you are conflating our spiritual identity with our flesh/human identity. Which would explain why we are potentially disagreeing on this discussion. Perhaps from the same page, perhaps not. The apostle Paul never said we have two natures. The apostle Paul taught that Christians have a new nature in Christ, but he did not explicitly teach that Christians have two natures. That’s not to say that humans don’t sin. We absolutely do. But that is not our new spiritual nature. So to be clear. While we DO have the ability to walk in the flesh (sin), or walk in the spirit (avoid sin), Christians can never - under any circumstances ‘live in the flesh’, we only have the ability to ‘live in the spirit’. Because how we spiritually live is not based on what we DO, but rather it’s based on WHO we were IN. You are either in Adam (living in the flesh) or in Christ (living in the Spirit). There is no gray area there.

Amen!

It's our reasonable service to present ourselves holy and blameless by the sure mercies of God.

We all have a problem with sin that is why Jesus took the penalty of sin which was death upon Himself so that we could be declared " not guilty". God has forgiven us completely. We now walk in the spirit as new creations in Christ Jesus and not as unsaved sinners who still walk in the flesh. Our position has changed spiritually when we became new creations in Christ but we still remain in this sinful flesh and will still sin and this will not change until we are called home to be with our Lord".

Amen! You are on the same page as we are :)

Luke 14:33 So then, none of you can be My disciple who does not give up all his own possessions. This would be my first response to the people who tell you that Luke 14:33 is literal (if it's applied to getting rid of everything we own). Do they own anything? A car? An iPhone? A watch? If so, they are complete hypocrites. In fact, let’s take the whole teaching in contact. Do they hate their father, mother, wife, children, and the rest of your family? If not, they are hypocrites. So perhaps it would be good if they look at scripture as a whole try to see if there's something else going on here. As I see it, here’s the context. Large crowds have showed up (vs 25). Jesus is speaking to ALL of them. I believe what he is describing is what happens to us at the born again experience. We simply can’t find purpose and meaning apart from Christ. Keep in mind that the audience all JEWISH people with a Jewish upbringing. All of them are hyper obsessed with the law as their guide, and they REJECT Jesus. And, as a Jew, if you were going to make a decision to follow Jesus, you’re also going to need to make a decision to not care what the rest of your family thinks. It is a known fact that, if you were a Jewish man who decided to follow Christ, you are definitely going to be rejected by your wife, children, brother, and sister. As a follower of Jesus, you’re going to be far more interested in what you’re learning about Jesus than you are the approval of others. I think we can all agree that no one will be saved by giving rid of all their possessions. That's why no one is doing that. Including the people who are abusing Luke's message in chapter 14. So if you ask me, I do agree this letter is a little tricky, but I think the context is these are Jewish people who, if they are going to follow Jesus, will be required to abandon everything they’ve ever thought about the messiah. He’s not going to be a warrior/king who comes in and fights the battle. You’re going to have to believe a totally different message than the rest of the Jewish people do. You may very well be thrown out of your family. Losing all of your possessions. The Jews who did make this decision for Jesus, they were more than happy to be separated from their family, and all of their possessions. In comparison to Jesus, those things would be hated if they were obstacles to their ability to know Jesus. Can I point out that they were many men of God throughout scripture that were very wealthy. Abraham. Isaac. Jacob. Job. Solomon. Etc. So those people you described should have a hard time reconciling this with Luke 14. Christians today are certainly hated by many people around the world who think we are absolutely crazy. They don't like what we believe, they even drill it into our politics. Regarding sex out of marriage. My view is the heart of God is still the same on that. He does not want us to have sex out of marriage. Sex doesn’t prove love. It’s an intimate expression of the love we already have. Don’t get me wrong, if you are doing that (and are a Christian) God is NOT holding it against you. Your sins have been taken away. Abstaining from sex out of wedlock is not a threat from God. It’s what God believes is best for us. I can tell you as a father, who has a 26 year old daughter, I would not approve of any man just having sex with her, and thinking he will decide later if he wants to marry her. I’m not saying that inherently makes him a bad person. I’m just speaking as a father saying that I would not approve of that. Of course, that would not be my decision to make. I'm just describing my heart. If the man loves her, then marry her. If does not, then my view is he has absolutely zero business being that intimate with her. And please understand, I know that modern culture gives her the approval to this. And I also understand that this is generally consensual on both sides (man and woman). But I cannot find any evidence that the heart of God has been altered on this. But let me wrap up by saying it’s not some type of threat to us. It’s just what’s best and withholding from sex until married is an incredible way to honor our girlfriends.

@ Thank you so much! I’m a catholic raised. I personally started looking at you videos because every time I go to Reddit people will try to impose how you are supposed to live according to cherrypicked scriptures + I have never read the bible in my life, and, I’m afraid that doing it without proper lecture will drive me insane as I wouldn’t be able to understand the context and I will take stuff literally. I don’t want to fall into legalism Im just trying to improve my relationship with God. What he wants from me. For example, I can relate to Luke 14:33 because I wanted to go to college to study a different degree, but I wasn’t accept. Nowadays I thank God that happened, I guess he had better plans for me in my life. I also try to understand the bible through a logical context, since I personally wouldn’t be able to live like other people do, who usually take the scriptures word by word. Once again Mark thank you so much! Your videos are really helpful! God Bless 🙏❤️

@@dmrixr.a5942 I'm glad I could be of help. PS, and while it's really no big deal, my name is Mike. ;)

@ Hi Mike! Hope you are having a wonderful Christmas. Would you be able to explain John 19 were Jesus views some sins greater than others? Or John 5:16-17 that some sins lead you to death and other not. Since I started watching your videos it all started to make sense! I personally was raised catholic but I never go to confession and this is an issue that makes my head busy! The same goes for Isaiah 59:1-2. Does that mean God does not hear those who not believe in him? I’m not really considering Protestantism because tradition and the honor of saints are for me important but there are some teachings of the church I don’t agree with.

@@dmrixr.a5942 Great question! First, keep in mind that there's only one sin that leads to death. It's the same Single sin that is not forgivable, and that sin is the sin of unbelief. Rejecting Jesus. So what is this greater sin we see John 19? It's unbelief. They are angry, because Jesus is claiming to be the Son of God. And they are rejecting that claim, thereby denying the Deity of Christ I'm guilty of unbelief. Also, keep in mind, the two types of sin in contrast. 1-the first one is that Jesus claim to be the Son of God. THEY accusing him of that sin. Which, as we all know today he was not lying or committing blasphemy. He indeed is God Himself in the flesh. 2-and the second one is THIER sin. Unbelief. Hope that helps

@@mrm2377 thank you very much for taking time to share that and offer encouragement

Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you are enjoying the Channel

Let’s table your struggle and let me just look at myself. I enjoy wine, and no doubt there are times. I enjoy more than Jesus probably like me to. I think I could say to say I struggled a little bit with alcohol. That called sin. What do you won’t me doing is bragging about it. I don’t ever say it doesn’t matter. I’m never in someone’s face about it. I acknowledge it is a struggle. Hopefully you could say the same for whatever area you struggle in. I have no problem, saying that Jesus is forgiveness comforts me. That doesn’t mean I don’t care about my sin. It means I acknowledge that, though I struggle, I have overcome the penalty through Christ. If there’s any Christian who is comforted by that, I’d say they don’t truly know what Jesus has done for them. I also would submit to you that we all have some type of struggle, and we all stumble in many ways. I do remember being in church thinking everybody was perfect, but me. Overtime I realized humans are all flawed and none of us are perfect apart from Christ. In the same way, you are not saved by avoiding homosexuality, you are not damned by committing it. It is not what you do that leads to hell. The only thing that leads to Hell is rejecting Jesus. Changing your behavior has zero ability to save you. Now, does that mean homosexuality doesn’t matter? That would be crazy talk. Equally I would say it matters when I can sing too much alcohol from time to time. It does matter. When I made for these things. If you’re afraid it’s because you’re not trusting Jesus still. You don’t believe he’s really taking away your sin. Do you think your son is too big? It’s not. Perfect love casts out all fear because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected - 1 John 4:18 You are not called to fear. Your sin is in the same bucket as mine. In the same bucket as the Popes. There are only two buckets of sin. The first one is outward sin. All of those are forgivable if you have received Christ. The second bucket just has one sin. Inward sin. Unbelief. Rejecting Jesus. That is the only send that leads to death. Part of me would say, admittedly I don’t want to give up my alcohol. Likewise, you said you don’t want to give up your sexuality. And I would like to push back and say I don’t think that’s true. I’m not saying it’s not a struggle. It is. But if you weren’t torn with this struggle, why would you be posting this comment? You have a new heart with your desires. It’s that part of you that shared these comments. That doesn’t mean the struggle isn’t real. But the struggle isn’t your flesh and blood. It’s coming from the outside. A real external source, that’s always leading you astray. Maybe you all over coming next month. Maybe in a year. Maybe it’ll never happen. That’s not what saved you and it’s not keeps you saved. Your faith in Jesus is the only thing that does that. So let me tell you the one thing you can do to at least begin to change those desires. Believe that you are forgiven. Believe that God is not obsessing over your sexuality anymore. You sin have been taken away as far as the west is from the east. Remember, no more. You are now the righteousness of Christ. Not because you perform well, but because He did. Also, Jesus it’s not calling you to despise your partner or anyone else. Remember, while YOU were a sinner Christ died for you. He didn’t wait for you to get it, right. He went to the cross for the murderers. The drunkards. The adulterers. And dare I say it and offend some religious egos, but he also went to the cross for the homosexual’s. Remember, it’s great that leads us to repentance. You will never start to change your desires, unless you can receive forgiveness yourself. If you keep waking up, feeling like you’re a dirty worm, and that Jesus is disgusted with you, he will live out the life that you believe he thinks you are. But he said you were justified. He said you were holy. He said you were sanctified. He said he would be presented as blameless on judgment day. So who are you going to listen to? That whispering of guilt and condemnation from the evil one or Jesus?

@ wow. Beautiful response. Thank you so much 🙏 😭 you have no idea how much I needed to read this and re read this. So much condemnation I’ve been under.

@ ❤️amen.

I completely get what you're saying. And I respect that. Although respectfully, I have to disagree. I do believe the two are separated. Yes, the language is side-by-side, but I believe based on all the scripture that I've read, and the Grammer set up leads me to conclude that I got this one right. Thank you so much for sharing your view..

​​@@jesuswithoutreligionI find your position untenable for the very reason that when the second beast arises he did not start out by pushing the mark of the beast. According to verse 12 the first thing he will do is to cause the world to worship the first beast. Therefore, the worship of the beast was the main focus of attention before the mark was introduced. In fact, even before the second beast rises the world was already worshipping the first beast and the dragon who gave him power. (vs 4). The mark of the beast was introduced in verse 16 and received by the same people were worshipping the first beast both in verses 4 and 12. Thus it stands reason that what took place in verse 16 came as a consequence of what was already happening in veres 4 and 12. So if the mark of the beast will be given to the worshippers of the beast then it is highly likely that this mark is designed to identify the worshippers of the beast and as a way of sealing a covenant of loyalty to the beast. You cannot separate the mark fron the worship when one is a consequence of the other.

@@ProphecyCourse4u thanks for sharing your thoughts. Still have to agree to disagree. :) God bless you brother

I hear you. And the good news, anyone who knows about the Mark because they write about it will not be deceived. Let's say you're a 50 year old woman who never knew Jesus until today. Then, this morning you heard the word about Jesus, and you soak it in, you got on your knees, as you prayed for forgiveness, and received Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Your new Christian. You've never even heard about Moses, let alone this mark of the beast.. But suddenly, this new system is ushered into your country that requires you to get the strange Mark so that you can get food and water and other necessities. Here you are a woman who loves Jesus, and as far as you know, there's this weird mark that your government is making you get so that you can sustain your food. You didn't turn your back on Jesus. You didn't deny him or reject him. You were simply deceived into doing something that you had no idea what it was. This is the people we are describing in the video. And I hear you. Some of you still think God would completely revoke the one that he made his child, and let them burn eternally.. And if that's how you see scripture, and I totally understand why you're fighting for it. If that's what you believe, never give up. As for me, I know, Guy would love that woman, and I also am convinced that the scripture does not describe her situation when it talks about worshiping Satan. This is where we agree to disagree. It's probably improbable that you were. I will get the Mark. And that's awesome. But if we didn't have Jesus, we'd be in much more danger than having a debate about a Mark but I'm getting it. :) god bless you friend

@@jesuswithoutreligion Get it if you wish, the choice is yours alone. Those that innocently take the mark might escape the judgement but those that know better and choose it over Christ will face the judgement, the word of God is very clear on this point.

@@wrippley103 I'm not sure how many different ways I can say this to you. I am NOT talking about people who know about the mark.

@@jesuswithoutreligion My guess is only a very tiny percentage of those taking a permanent symbol of loyalty won't understand what's at stake and nobody believes a just God makes mistakes, so worry about the innocent is worth mentioning in prayer and laying at the feet of the Lord. The battle is already won.

Nowhere in this video that I suggest flirting with sin, and you're taking a giant leap to imply that I came within 1000 miles of encouraging someone to worship the beast. The entire post is describing people who love Jesus, but don't know anything about this mark of the beast. Certainly you know questions who the first time you mention it is the first time they've ever heard about it. I value your opinion and want to hear, I really believe you're going down a rabbit hole saying things like, would it be OK to kill someone, etc. I have probably more than 2000 hours of video, and you would not find a single point where I reference that's OK to sin. That is not what we are discussing here either. This entire post hinges on someone who loves Jesus, and has received him as Lord and Savior, knows nothing about this mark of the beast, and was deceived into receiving it. And I totally understand if you believe God doesn't care about that, and he's teaching us that he was still throw them in hell. I don't believe that is the God you serve.. The one who literally died on the cross so that you could have life.. Jesus has showed so much love for you, and this leads me to believe that the Scriptures are correct, when saying that these people who are in danger, or people who receive the mark and simultaneously and willingly and knowingly worshiped the beast. No, where do we see that these were believers. We are taking a wild leap to insert the word Christian into these verses. There's zero evidence that these were Christians. But again, I respect and value your opinion. Thank you for sharing. Agree to disagree. :)

Your example of everyone being at the party is more like apples to hamburgers, definitely not like apples to apples. Regarding crowns. Every Christian receives every Crown. You are incorrectly looking at these as some type of heavenly jewelry or reward system. The crown of life. Who is the crown of life? Jesus. The crown of righteousness. Who is our righteousness? Jesus Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear that you’re clear on what a false prophet is. It’s a big stretch that I do one single video about the mark of the beast, and you run with it. But as I started out discussing in my video, I knew to expect people like you to arrive. No worries.. PS 1 John 2:22 literally reads: * He who disowns the Father and the Son IS the anti-Christ. *

@@jesuswithoutreligion //Your example of everyone being at the party is more like apples to hamburgers, definitely not like apples to apples. // Firstly, simply negating a claim is not the same as proving it. Thanks for proving my point. Secondly, what I provided is a perfectly legitimate example of how you were abusing terms like "all men", "all", "everyone", etc., to fit into your predetermined narrative. And anyone with a 6th grade education would see how well it worked. //Regarding crowns. Every Christian receives every Crown.// Nope. Prove your point. //You are incorrectly looking at these as some type of heavenly jewelry or reward system.// Yeah, once again, simply saying "No it ain't" is not a defense. //The crown of life. Who is the crown of life? Jesus. // Sorry but you're simply making things up. Jesus is not the crown of life. Once again, you make an assertion and then fail to even ATTEMPT to prove it, much less succeed in doing so. But this if par for the course, as is evidenced by your sad video. //The crown of righteousness. Who is our righteousness? Jesus // Well, at leat this one (even though you didn't actually prove it) is recognizable in the sense that Christ is the righteousness of all who believe (notice not of all period? He's not the righteousness of those who do not believe ... See how that "all" is always qualified?) //Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear that you’re clear on what a false prophet is.// I never said you were a false prophet. Straw man. // It’s a big stretch that I do one single video about the mark of the beast, and you run with it. But as I started out discussing in my video, I knew to expect people like you to arrive. No worries..// The only worries you should have is that you're not spreading falsehood ... which you are. To receive the mark of the beast is to worship Satan. To worship Satan is to reject Christ. PS 1 John 2:22 literally reads: * He who disowns the Father and the Son IS the anti-Christ. *// Apparently you don't understand the word "literally" because it literally doesn't say that. It LITERALLY says (directly translated from the Greek): "Who is the liar if not the one denying, that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one denying the Father and the Son." But in that I would ask ... And what's your point? People who deny Christ are always antichrists. And a person receiving the mark of the beast must in fact verbally deny that Jesus is the Christ. If indeed there ends up being a time when the "mark of the beast" is applied to people, then it will be in keeping with the rest of the Scripture pertainting to it, which is that without it, people are not permitted to buy or sell. In other words they lose their right to life without submitting to the beast. It is an antichrist act to do so. This is why Jesus said "You cannot serve (be the slave of) money and God. You will either love the one and hate the other." To LOVE in this sense is the serve, and to serve is to worship. You either serve, worship, rely upon, God or mammon. Not both. The mark of the beast is a decisive action. A conscious action. And there is absolutely zero evidence from the Scriptures that it is reversible. But the Spirit of God who indwells all of the elect of God, causes them to persevere to the end IN the Faith. He prevents them from falling. We must persevere to the end in the Faith, and that perseverance is empowered to us by the Holy Spirit. Christ will lose none of those whom the Father has given Him. THAT is the good news concerning the "mark of the beast".

@@stegokitty Re: Firstly, simply negating a claim is not the same as proving it …You literally just did that did that very thing, and did it repeatedly ^^^^^^ Re: Every Christian receives every Crown.// Nope. Prove your point. …..The proof is that there is not a single instance where we see one guy getting a crown and the other believer being passed by. It is simply not there. YOU have drawn this conclusion on your own :) Prove me wrong. Re: /The crown of life. Who is the crown of life? Jesus. // Sorry but you're simply making things up. Jesus is not the crown of life. ….Jesus is not our crown of life. Wow! As you also never explain what/who the crown of life is. Who/what do you say is the crown of life? Do you really think these are physical crowns? And if they are not symbolic, what did they do with the crowns? *Rev 4:10 They lay their crowns before the throne and say: ‘You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.’”* So, they didn't even keep them... they gave them back to Jesus. That is because everything next to Jesus is just dung - Phil 3:8 You seem to have a bit too much affection for crowns when you should move more of that toward Jesus. Can I point out that the only time you seem to even mention "Jesus" is in some combative way toward me? It's all about Jesus. Can I get an Amen?

I appreciate you sharing your view. It’s always good to talk about these things so we can see if there’s any common ground. If not, that’s fine also.. You wrote 'Christians would never be left behind'. Maybe you’re right, although I think there’s plenty of strong debate that says differently. We do know that Christians are raped. We are murdered. We get horrible diseases, like cancer. We suffer pain. We die in automobile accidents. We have arms and legs amputated. And while God absolutely loves us all, it appears what He's mostly concerned about is our eternal salvation. And while I don’t fully understand why God would ever allow horrific things to happen to His children, I still trust Him, and know that His ways are higher than mine. But what if you’ve got it backwards? Everyone argues that it’s the unbelievers that are left behind. And maybe that is the case. But let’s look at a few stories in the Scriptures where people were “left behind”. How about Noah’s Ark?. The world was full of evil people. And then there was Noah and his family. God sent a worldwide flood to get rid of the evil. Who is left behind? Is this a parable showing us that it will actually be God's people that are left behind and God will swoop up the evil ones? I don’t know. Maybe. Maybe not. And can I point out they're in the story in Matthew's letter that talks about being left behind. He literally gives an example of Noah's story? *MATTHEW 24:38-39 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away.* You can also point out the very next line. He saying that's exactly how it's gonna be like when Jesus comes, as he writes in the very next line.: *That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man* What about when God was helping the Jewish people escape slavery to get to the promise land. As Moses leads all of his people to the Red Sea, the red sea parts, Moses and his people go through it, and then, when the Pharaoh and his people got into, the water immediately closed on them. Who was left behind? Gods people or the bad people? I can show you these examples over and over and over again. And even still, I’m not ready to be dogmatic about who will be left behind. And I don’t think your personal view would make you a false teacher or self-proclaimed prophet. Yeah, after making that comment, here you are claiming to know without question exactly when the rapture will happen. The scripture is certainly not very clear on that. And we have no reason to believe that God would not allow us to suffer through the rapture, especially based on what I just shared above about what happens to Christians already. In Matthew 24 he writes: *Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.* But he doesn't tell us, which one was the believer in which one was the unbeliever. Yeah, we made great movie out of it :) which I love Kurt Cameron and I certainly enjoyed that movie. But it's a stretch to say we know for sure who's being left behind. And while I'm perfectly fine with either of you, I personally think it's the unbelievers that are left behind. And being left behind is a good thing, not a bad thing. I think we Christians need to be a little bit less quick decline. People been doomed to hell and eternity in the lake of fire, and focus a little more on how unbelievers can be rescued.. We need appointment for Jesus. I’m not sure why there needs to be so much hostility when a couple Christians get the circle and talking about these things..

Thank you so much for sharing your heart. Great points to consider. We are certainly in agreement that we should never try to interpret a verse without taking the entire Bible into consideration. Nearly every time we see this word falling away, it is being said to JEWISH PEOPLE. What are they falling away from? Grace. They are rejecting the free gift of salvation through faith. They heard the gospel. But even tasted it. But in the end, they said no thank you. What did they fall toward? They fell away from Grace and back towards the law, temple, sacrifices, and self righteousness for salvation. Consider what the verses you shared talked about. Full strength of his anger. Torment it with fire. Torment forever and ever. As you rightfully, began, saying, we should not solely focus on the book of revelation. That said, if you were to interpret Revelation 14 the way I think you are, I would encourage you to reconcile that with versus like: I will never leave you or forsake you Heb 13:5 When you are faithless, I will remain faithful 2:Tim 2:13 Your sins in lawless deeds I remember no more Hebrew 10:17 The one who believes is not judged John 3:18 There is now no condemnation for those in Christ Rom 8:1 The scripture 100% of the time refers to our salvation as being eternal. The word eternal means without an end. So if we could lose our salvation, for any reason, how could it possibly be referred to as eternal? Just something to consider. I want to circle back to the beginning of my post. In my view, I made it very clear that I am not in any way, suggesting that people who would worship Satan will be saved. In fact, anyone who would do that is most definitely not a believer in the first place. My entire theology hinges on the fact that I believe the writer is describing a group of people who are guilty of BOTH getting the Mark and also worshiping the beast. So those who are deceived, because they don’t have a clue what they’re doing, or not worshiping the beast. And I know God loves us so much they poured out his blood for us. So I do not believe that someone who is naïve and has no clue that they are taking the Mark, would lose their salvation. Thank you for your comments and your time

@ greetings again Running out I will read later

Well, I guess if you say I’m not correct it just simply must be true then huh?

@ I think the theory is that God gives infinite chances before you are damned. I would disagree. Even during the parable of the land owner and the vineyard. He didn’t have grace after he killed his son. (Using this to show character not relevance to the mark)

@@riddickerickson9897 Thanks for your comment. And as I repeatedly always say, it’s perfectly fine to disagree. This is about having open and godly conversation, and seeing if there’s any wiggle room for anyone to change their mind about how they interpret certain scriptures. At the end of the day, what’s most important do we know and love Jesus. On that note, perhaps we could have a brief discussion on the parable of the vendor, and see if there’s any chance to change each other’s understanding of what we’re supposed to be learning. First, regarding that terrible, I’m not sure what you mean when you reference someone killing their son??? Would you kindly tell me what verse you see that being revealed in the parable of the Vineyard and the landowner? We see that the context is showing us what the kingdom of heaven is like. We didn’t see the story about a group that came out first, and work harder and longer than everyone else. A Few hours later, more people come out, and while they don’t work as much, they still work quite a bit. But then, at the last moment, more people showed up, but this group worked the least of them all. As humans, we think whoever puts in the most effort is the person who deserves more. But that’s not God’s kingdom. God loves all of us, and I believe the point is, rather, you’ve been saved for 50 years and working your entire life, or you got saved the day before you died, and only had three hours of good works, God gives us all the same gift. Eternal life. I know some people would immediately go to this word rewards idea. And as I always point out, the word rewards, plural, is not existent in the context of scripture. It is singular. In the reward is the inheritance of the kingdom. Jesus. In John 6:28-29 the religious elite asked Jesus what were the works (plural) that pleased God. This would’ve been a perfect time for Jesus to start listing off all these churchy things. But instead, he corrects their grammar, using the word work, singular. He says this is the work that pleases God. That you believe in the Son whom He has sent. Yes, we are called to serve, and exude, the love of Jesus, through our good works. So please know I am not even hinting that Christians are not supposed to be out there doling out good works and showing the world Jesus.. But we’re not doing that to impress God. We’re not doing that for rewards. If we are, it’s pretty selfish. We’re doing those things because it’s who we are. It’s our new identity.. And I know there’s a small group of people that would tell you they’re doing it for God, as if they were somehow impressing Him. Act17:25 tells us that God is not served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people breath and all things To me, that’s God telling me to get over myself. Stop pounding my chest. He doesn’t need me to get things done. I don’t do things because God is needy. I do those because I love Jesus and I want to show the world, his love through my outward performance..

Brother, you are certainly entitled to your full opinion about me. If you haven't already, let me encourage you to watch the video, read through the comments, and my God reveal the truth to you. But I wanna be clear. When the scriptures talk about false teachers, they're not talking about opposing views over these type of things. They're referring to people who are teaching away to the father other than through Christ.. Unfortunately, people use this language, false teacher, far too loosely. God bless you, sir

Those who break the commandments receive punishment , those that teach them to do so receive greater punishment. Do not mislead your flock, brother. I did not watch the video, your intro for it shocked me. ​@jesuswithoutreligion

@@graemedown8970 Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. I appreciate it. You’re obviously free not to watch the video. No worries. But I think it would give you a better understanding of where I’m coming from. He said those who break the commandments receive punishment. But the scripture says he who believes is not judged. The scripture says there is now no condemnation for those in Christ. The scripture says the one who fears is not perfect and love, because fear involves punishment. The scripture says Jesus is the end of the law for all who believe. So I’m not clear on what Commandments you’re referring to? The apostle Paul wrote that the 10 Commandments were referred to as a ministry of condemnation and death. Yes, the law is perfect in holy. But we know that the law no one perfect. That no one will be found righteous through the law. The law came in, so send would increase. The problem is not the law. The problem is any human who is trying to avoid punishment and be made right with God through it. The only hope we have is Jesus Christ. A gift. Through faith. Less anyone boast. It is not even ½ a percent of all I’m doing. If righteousness could be obtained in law, then Jesus died needlessly - Gal 2:21

@jesuswithoutreligion ok, I see the problem. The law that was nailed to the cross was only the ceremonial or masaic law, as these temple practices pointed to Jesus. Gods law, the 10 commandments are still in force. Jesus did not die so that it was OK to steal, kill, commit adultery, etc. They do point to death, if you beak them. Where it says no condemnation is the fact that we have forgiveness through Jesus death for us, for the remission of our sin. His death did not give us free reign to act as we please. We need to be holy spirit guided on our journey to attain the character of christ.

@@graemedown8970 Thanks for sharing that. The Mosaic law is the 10 Commandments. It is the only law that Moses brought in. If you remember, they were written on stone. That’s important because it removes any argument about this verse: 2 COR 3:7 But if the ministry of death, written and CARVED ON LETTERS ON STONES…. I don’t hear what I’m not saying. You being free from the law, not under the law, not supervised by the law, which the scripture says, over and over, does not mean Jesus is giving you a license to go out and kill, lie, and commit adultery. Let me put it in human terms. I’m not sure where you’re from, but I’m from the United States, and here, and in most places, it is illegal to murder people. If you murder someone, you will likely go to prison for life. Because the law establishes the punishment. But let’s say the law was removed, and it was permissible to murder people. Do you think not being under that wall is going cause us to go out and start killing people? Of course not. The law is not what keeps us from committing evil acts. The law has one roll. It serves up the punishment for the crime.. Likewise, if you are under the mosaic law, and you kill someone, you get eternal death. There’s no escape as long as you’re under that law. Let’s not stop there. Jesus said if you hate a brother, you’re guilty of murder.. The mosaic law says you shall not commit adultery. But Jesus said, if you so much is look at a woman has to last for her you’ve already committed adultery in your heart. That means you get eternal punishment. You say the mosaic law is perfect and Holly. It’s so perfect that we don’t even realize that it’s true standard is far above anything a human could ever keep. The purpose of the law is to show you how hopeless you are trying to make it to the kingdom, apart from Jesus. Rom 3:19 says the law came in that every mouth would be shut up. Because when we understand the perfect standard of the law, we realize we’re not qualified to push it on anybody. I’ve looked with lust. Have you ever? There have been times right coveted other things, have You? I told a lie. Have you. The apostle James said, whoever keeps the entire law, but stumbles at one point has become guilty of it all. - James 2:10 You see, we make the mistake of thinking that it’s laws to keep us from being evil. That is not the role of the law. Human nor spiritual.. The law serves up the punishment. I would ask you who respects the lawn more? The person who says the standard is so perfect. No one can do it, or the person who said yeah you can do it, just do your best? Hebrews 7:18-19 tells us that the former commandment has been satisfied because it is weak and useless, and makes nothing perfect. And then goes on to tell us that they better hope is introduced, which we draw near to God. I think this is with so many people don’t understand about the Bible. There’s old covenant. This is Jewish people who were under the law, trying to get right with God. Yeah, we see it’s not a story of success. One moment God was toward them, the next moment they were not keeping the law and God turn his back on them. Then we have the new covenant. The ministry found it on better. Hope some better promises. Under the law, there was an agreement made between man and God. When man did not keep his end of the deal, we received the just punishment. The wages of sin is death.. Here’s something people mess. Under the new covenant, this is not an arrangement made between man and God.. Instead, God promised himself, because by two unchangeable things, He cannot lie. In the old, the Jewish people were the guarantors. Under the new Jesus is our guarantor. Your sins have been taken away. All of them. They’ve been remembered no more. They’ve been nailed to the Cross. The big ones. The little ones. And the ones we stupidly commit over and over.. To be clear, I’m not saying that Jesus’s death is a license to sin. May never be. We are not made for sin. The apostle Paul said all things are permissible, and all things are lawful. And that’s because he is 100% free in Christ. Meaning, there are no longer is any condemnation, even if he wants to make a stupid mistake. Sin. But at the same time, he says, he will not let his flesh master him. You may remember in the first book of Corinthians, these people were participating in orgies, drunkenness, divisions, abusing the Lord supper, and breaking world records for sin. And while the apostle Paul does called him out, before he does, so he literally tells them about their identity in Christ. He tells them they will be presented as blameless in the end. He says they have the grace of God. He thanks God for them. He tells them they have every spiritual gift and lack nothing. And it is not until he confirms that he wants them to know their identity in Christ, only then does he call out this extremely terrible behavior they’ve been showing the world. And his point is, why are you living like you were still unbelievers without God and without Hope. Live out who you are and stop this craziness. So I’m not saying that Grace is a license to go out and sin. What do you do? The blood of Jesus took away your sin or it didn’t. And for the record, every sin you’ve ever commit it was in the future when he died on the cross. I believe him when he said it is finished. I’m not saved because I’m really good at avoiding sin (and I am) but rather because I trusted in Jesus alone.

Lets review that reply: KJV and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, AND UPON THEM which worshipped his image. (See www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2016%3A2&version=KJV)NIV Does NOT have a comma festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. (See www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2016%3A2&version=NIV) NKJV does NOT have a comma and a foul and loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image (seewww.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2016%3A2&version=NKJV) So, let's agree to disagree, but according all 3 of theses versions you have misspoken.

Your comment has no substance. I have been no reference to knowing what the Mark is. I don’t know what it is and you don’t know what it is. But apparently, God felt it was relevant enough to talk about it in revelation. The discussion is not about what the market is. It is about interpreting the language based on the way it has been written and translated. None of us have anything else to go on.

It doesn’t matter whether or not there were commas in the early manuscripts. Apparently, those that later came to interpret what they said, took the time to determine rather or not a comma belonged in order to properly convey its meaning. As for this, you have to take the Mark voluntarily, if that were always the case, we would not be reading about many being “deceived”. Literally, half of you here arguing are the same people who adamantly said four years ago that the Covid vaccine was the Mark.

Just wanted to thank you for taking so much time to thoroughly express yourself, and share so much wisdom.

You're actually defending my point. You might want to read that verse again. Perhaps a little slower.

Yes I agree. Even though 'grammatically' this video may be correct, and that could be right - I personally am not willing to take that chance. The bibles were compiled by men, and what if they had made a mistake with that comma - Wow that would be devastating for people who think its okay to get the mark. However not all Christians will be deceived..... Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 2 Thes 2 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

@@DanielMorgan-i1x Thank you. Your reply was godly, kind, and totally understandable. Like you, I too would not take the chance. I agree, not all Christians will be deceived. Though this scripture does say MANY will be. 2 These 2 address both believers and unbelievers at different parts. Starting at verse 8 is addressing the evil one, anti christ, unbelievers. *He who now restrains will do so until He is removed. Then that lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will eliminate with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and false signs and wonders* In verse 10, it's confirmed they were not believers as they never accepted His love or the truth (Jesus) that would save them. *they did not accept the love of the truth so as to be saved.* Same with verse 11: *in order that they all may be JUDGED who did NOT BELIEVE the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.* Contrast their judgment with that of believers in John 3:18 *The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God* Again, thank your for your willingness to show Christ by being kind, and ready to give an account for the hope that is in you. I will always respect those that disagree with me. I just wish more would do it like have done :)

@@jesuswithoutreligion Thanks bro! Yes you're right about 2 Thes 2:9 being unbelievers. However do you class Catholic, Mormons, JW etc as non believers, or believers - Cos clearly they're in a delusion, right and are not born again?

@@DanielMorgan-i1x that's a great question. I remember in my early days as I wanted to know who God really was, I openly examine all religions. Drove my wife nuts. But for me, I wanted to know what each group thought, and why. In my personal conclusions, the aforementioned religions are indeed all cults. That doesn't mean that everyone within those churches are not saved. I think some people have a very limited understanding of the Scriptures, but I believe to the extent that you JESUS ALONE you, indeed, are safe, even if you find yourself stuck in the middle of a brainwashing church. But even when I chat with them, I do my best to gently point him to the truth. Sometimes it's just as simple as talking about a Bible story, and how I view it. Just get them to question what they've been taught. But I know they only listen if you're willing to do it respectfully and gently. Which is a lot less than I can say for some of the people below, who seem to feel like the way to change someone's mind is to go for the jugular, tell them they're gonna rot in hell, and install them. It's really weird hearing self-proclaimed questions speak with such hostility.. But honestly, I've learned over time that it's topics like this that will bring the worst out of some people.

Agree to disagree :) Also, I appreciate your view on the name of our channel. The definition of “religion” can be traced back to the Latin “re” and “ligare”. RE meaning “again”, and LIGARE meaning “to bind”. So to be in religion can also mean to be returning to the bondage of the law, a problem the Jews had under the Old Covenant. Christians were freed from the bondage of the law. Religion calls for us to return to that bondage. The word Religion can be understood in more than one way. And I'm not implying that any time in the world religion is used is bad. Sometimes names of channels are designed to make a point. I think he just might be overthinking this a little bit, which is perfectly fine.

@@jesuswithoutreligion - yep, you've shown your fruit, and there is nothing I can do but pray to help you. May the Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on you.

@@Laŋdoŋ May God have mercy on me? What Bible exactly are you reading, sir? I believe in Jesus. I trust Jesus. He and only he has the power and authority to rescue me.. He was born of a virgin, died on the cross for our sins, and was resurrected to give us new life. The last time I checked, he who believes is not condemned - John 3:18. Whosoever will call on the name of the lord, shall be saved- Rom 10:13. Salvation is a gift, it is not of myself, or I would be boasting, - Eph 2:8.. Now you're presenting me with the doctrine of, "that's true, but if you disagree with @Br.Landon view on the mark, God will change his mind and the faith never mattered?" So we're not saved by faith? We're saved by agreeing with humans? By the way, respectfully, it is not my fruit that God is examining. It's the fruit of the spirit. His Son. Who works in and threw me. You're showing your true colors when you warn me and ask that God would have mercy on me, a child of God, who loves his son, and worships no one but him. You show that your confidence is in your flash and ability not to be deceived, rather than the finished work on the cross.. You would be sad, because Jesus perform perfectly, not you. I love you in Christ brother, but I have to be honest with you, that's a big slap in his face and it completely undermines everything he did for you. I do not nullify grace, for if salvation can be obtained in law, then Christ died needless, Gal 2:21 Let me encourage you to consider looking at all biblical verses as a whole, and not allow a single story to be a stumbling block for you. I've given you a logical reason to reconsider. You're very dogmatic view, that quite frankly, in my opinion, denies everything Jesus has promised us..

I’d have to commit intellectual suicide to buy into that response. Regardless of what date the comma began to be used, the version of the scripture translation you are reading has the commas there. So you might think you’re debating me over when commas got used, but you’re actually debating every scholar who translated the Scriptures and determined that a comma did or did not belong.

You have eyes to see. Stay strong and endure to the end my brother. Hallelujah and God bless.

@@Laŋdoŋ Amen, God is good. All praise and glory to Jesus

@@jesuswithoutreligion Not debating brother. Out of love for you and others watching this its a warning. Warnings don't always sound nice. If we looking for loopholes or providing ones for others, we have to examine ourselves. Whether we take the mark or worship the image makes no difference. Works can be an act of worship. Likewise, what we do can signify what we truly believe. If you do something and know its wrong we are still wrong anyway. Understanding the spirit of the text goes further. Teachers have a great responsibilty. Getting it wrong carries a heavy penalty. If I were in error and someone corrected or rebuked me, it's difficult not to respond with humility. So I understand where you're coming from. In the case you are wrong, it's to your benefit that you study, pray, and ask the LORD to guide you by His spirit before posting something potentially dangerous.

@@emmanuelvinson5387 I mean this respectfully, but it's a bit of a stretch to say you're not debating. And unfortunately, what you, and the others have failed to do, is explain away why the translators believed it was necessary to add or not add a comma which completely changes the meaning of the text. Simply warning me or telling me I'm wrong doesn't put legs on that type of argument. I think the only person looking for loopholes would have to be the person who is completely and utterly ignoring the grammar. That was not there by me, but by every single translator in every single version of the Bible.. So I guess the point of my video is to politely and gently show that you are in error, and again, you wouldn't just be debating with me. You would literally be debating with every single translator, who apparently carry the same view. You don't have to do mental gymnastics to understand the point that I'm making here. But you do have to be willing to ignore blatant an obvious explanations. :) we can agree to disagree brother. No worries.

there is no salvation through works. it's only through grace through faith in Christ.

@@NateBra James 2:14-26 - Faith Without Works Is Dead . Sounds like there is no salvation for you - at least you will get to spend eternity with your family,

@@cabot100 Respectfully, you haven't even yet learned the context of James 2. And what an evil comment about someone spending eternity in hell with their family. How about instead of exuding arrogance and rudeness, you invest more time trying to help people see the scriptures more clearly?

@@jesuswithoutreligionAre you not concerned about people finding God, achieving salvation? Do you realize how many false christians there are in the world? Do you not know God?

To be clear, A comma doesn't change what God said. It changes the way you are supposed to be interpreting what He said. Punctuation and grammar do make a difference. i.e. When we see He with a capital H in the middle of a sentence we're not arguing that the H refers to God, and the lowercase ones refer to humans. So yes, understanding punctuation and grammar absolutely matter for understanding the truth. It is people who ignore this, that will not be able to clearly understand, but God has said. And I do not say that with a combative heart. It's just a simple fact, and involves zero opinion.

It's fine to disagree. Of course, you will be saying that pretty much every translated version got it wrong grammatically. And, of course, the best thing to do is not take the mark. :) we're not talking about Christians, who know better. We're talking about Christians who are deceived. Certainly, you have met Christians before who have no clue about this "Mark". Certainly you've met Christians who loved Jesus, but couldn't honestly sight, but a handful of biblical stories. Respectfully, that would describe the vast majority of early Christians, who never even had a Bible to know the stories. So we're not talking about whether or not a Christian should take the mark. That has absolutely nothing to do with this post. We are talking about when that time comes, what will happen to Christians, who are deceived because they don't know anything about this Mark?

@@jesuswithoutreligion - you talk like the mark is blatantly obvious. Why do you think that, since you're contradicting what you say in your video?

@@Laŋdoŋ that seems to be quite a bit of a jump. I have never even hinted to knowing what this mark will look like. Maybe a tattoo? Maybe something physical, perhaps neither. The point has absolutely nothing to do with the Mark will look like. And I certainly don't even know that it will be blatantly obvious or not. But you're implying that would suggest it to some degree you have to be agreeing with me. Because if something is not blatantly obvious, then that literally means it would be insanely easy to see even the greatest of all Christians being deceived into taking the mark because they didn't even know they were doing it (hence it was blatantly not obvious)

@@jesuswithoutreligion - thank you for showing more of your fruit. May Jesus Christ have mercy on you.

@@Laŋdoŋ I'm sure you mean well, but I know you're kind. If toss around biblical verses wildly out of context. Let's just agree to disagree. This isn't really going anywhere. Christ be with you

What do you think the mark is?

@Br.Landon maybe a chip that gets implanted in the hand. Or maybe something as simple as a tattoo.

@@ladywoodall - Good, good, a chip implanted in your hand, and maybe even in the brain. A chip that you accept willingly that controls what you can buy or sell because all currency becomes digital and cash is done with. It's a good possibility. I encourage people to look far back to Adam and Eve. What did they do? God gave them everything with one condition, and they decided to trust a stranger-Satan-over God. God out of His perfect love incarnated on Earth as Jesus, and endured abuse and humiliation for His creation's sake. The same is happening again. People will be disobedient, do their own will, and go their own way. It's more of a state of mind, and people will be looking outward more so than inward, and it is what's inside that will determine our outward actions. It is so import in these last days to lay every worldly thing down, give our lives to Christ completely, and do His will that comes through the Holy Spirit, which is our Father's mark on us. The Lord Lord guy, foolish virgins, and the sleeping wedding party guest are people that received the gospel but do not live it. May the Lord Jesus Christ bless and keep you.

@@ladywoodall - looks like my responses are being modded. I'll try again. It could be, but look inward because it is our inward beliefs that will determine our outward actions. Knowing our Father's voice is vital. Remember Adam and Eve? God gave them everything under one condition. Eve disobediently trusted the serpent and Adam trusted Eve-the creation-over the Creator. If we know His voice and do what He says, we will not take the mark.

@Br.Landon we sin every single day. And we are believers. So just knowing the right thing to do doesn't make you do that right thing. If there's no pre-trib rapture, then what he's saying makes sense.

I absolutely do. To me there’s no question about it. The one who has seen Me has seen the Father - John 14:9 I and the Father are one. - John 10:30 “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am John 8:58 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1, And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us John 1:14 Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!" John 20:28 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Titus 2:13 We could go on forever

@@jesuswithoutreligion This is absolutely amazing! I believe that too, I just made a PDF comparing God the Father with Jesus Christ and it is absolutely true that Jesus Christ is God the Father Himself, can I share that PDF with you? Would be great! Thank you for the answer.

Testing the spirits (1st John 4:1-6) does not protect against the imperfect nature of humanity, no matter where a man's or woman's heart is. We're all fallible.

@@Laŋdoŋ I don't think anyone is teaching or suggesting that we're not all fallible.

@@jesuswithoutreligion - they certainly should because some people are too trusting, and some trust people more than the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.