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... . The company has claimed there is enough tidal movement in Cook Strait to generate 12 GW of power, more than one-and-a-half times New Zealand's current requirements.[10][14][15][16] In practice, only some of this energy could be harnessed.[17] ... Ocean power in New Zealand en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_power_in_New_Zealand#:~:text=The%20company%20has%20claimed%20there,this%20energy%20could%20be%20harnessed.

Banning any more drilling permits in NZ will make 0 difference to global emissions, world demand remains exactly the same ,in fact its growing. The exploration companies have simply packed up, taken their funds and equipment and gone to other countries to drill. The world is still hopelessly dependent on fossel fuels. Generating power with your own gas from a pipeline is far more efficient than importing coal and LNG. I'm all for rooftop solar however it's a long long way from generating enough to support industries like steel mills, dairy, pulp and paper to name a few, there are a lot of days when the sun doesn't shine in NZ. We could just kiss all these industries goodbye and loose thousands of jobs and billions in revenue, once again demand for these products would remain the same or grow as population increases and other countries would just increase their production to fulfill the demand. I'm all for clean green energy and I would love to see more of it however the day we make enough of it to replace fossil fuels completely is a long away if ever. The world is still hopelessly dependent on fossil fuels and I don't see why we should destroy our small fragile economy to make a token gesture to the environment while industrial giants like China and USA have a carbon footprint thousands of times worse than us and that's not likely to change in the next few decades.

First time? Not believable, maybe the first time in Auckland, but the power usage thing not being answered needs pushback, its a fair question.

The only reason it is harder to get cash is because banks are making it harder to access. It’s all about banks reducing services, making more money and control. This guy spoke mainly waffle.

One of the best business podcasts of New Zealand. You definitely deserve much more view and likes Madison...

This guys not very convincing

Great show as always

I find it hilarious that you can't disclose the location of this data centre, while across the ditch NextDC have these enormous red buildings that you cant miss 😅

Thank you for giving us an insider view into such a legendary investment company. Madison, your interviews are high quality, engaging, and well polished. Keep killing it 👏

I worked for Air NZ from 1989 to 1991. Low wage to start and not a single pay rise for cost of living or promotion. The place just fell apart. Rob Morrison is no friend of mine. He is a ruthless capitalist and a classic corporate raider. The NZ Gordon Geeko if ever I saw one. Don't fooled by his amiable grand-dad appearance. This man is a shark who is only interested in a profit at any cost. Because of him I left NZ for European where I earned a massively higher income. I was part of the NZ brain drain.

The current wholesale electricity price is so high (at over $800/MWh, or 80c/kw-hr) - it would be cheaper to run a generator on petrol - paying road tax in the per litre price to-boot. Now that's saying something (ain't right). Obviously diesel would be cheaper again. These cost calcs allows for the inefficiencies of the petrol/diesel generator...

He must have made a positive impact on their lives to want to keep his legacy going. Just shows there are true friends in business.

Very interesting insights Madison, thanks for your efforts.

This is excellent information appreciate the insight and the access to such innovative people.

20 years strong in this company and I have been asking myself the same question, how will M&CO continue this growth.. data, battery recycling and healthcare. Interesting that RKLB have now included data as they're primary source of growth in the future development of space infrastructure, IFT+RKLB=?

Its nice to see the emotional side in the end.. love these episodes.. keep them coming

Very interesting thanks for giving us a glimpse.

Hindsight is 20/20!

Great work so good to get a peak behind the curtain, and see the development of the company over time and to see that even the "big game" fishers don't always land the big fish, I missed the boat on investing earlier on this stock but happy to say it has been one of my better performing DCA stocks in my portfolio since 2021. On a related note would be super interested to see a piece from you on Black Pearl Group ticker BPG, Their model/strategy is very intriguing I see big things on their horizon.

Hi Madison, this series is actually really good. Keep up the good work. Your subscriber and view counts are relatively low, but the quality is insane! You'll be a superstar in no time.

Great work. A good look under the hood - as an investor I can only get so much. It makes me feel good about my stake. Thanks

This episode was such a joy to make - we spent weeks making it perfect and I laughed and teared up in the process. A real privilege to have this kind of access into a company's history and share it with you. Hope you enjoy it!

Great, another dose of leather clad Maddy. I like it. Keep the good stuff coming woman.

Nz running out of gas... Australia - Hold my beer.... Imagine being thw biggest gas supplier in the world and running out of gas ☠️

So secret it's listed on google maps

"We can't get rich by selling houses to one another" Well thanks for the advice! Now try to explain that to the real estate agents, the banks and the local council !!!

Great stuff Madison, recently subscribed. Your excellent questions created an interesting interview and I really enjoyed the slightly longer format vid. Keep up the great work!

Actually fantastic questions Madison

That CEO needs media training....don't say 'right' at the end of your sentence. It's a curse of a generation.

Reality hits New Zealand. Everyone else is going away from coal New Zealand has no choice but to burn it. Climate change is the last thing they have to worry about.

*Amazing video, you work for 40yrs to have $1M in your retirement, meanwhile some people are putting just $10K into trading from just few months ago and now they are multimillionaires*

Good thing with this data center its NZ based as most of them are overseas so its peace of mind for local businesses but its a competitive business as most corporations would rather deal with the big boys that being google, Amazon & Microsoft. So what's the point of difference -give us a good reason why we should host our business with you over the likes of Google or Amazon.

Maddy, I luv the leather and the whole Morticia Adams thing going on! You've gotta do Only Fans.

Makes sense. The people who got rich during the California Gold Rush weren't the gold miners, they were the ones selling tools such as shovels and picks. Levi Strauss was one of those who "struck it rich" by providing durable clothing to miners.

This is seriously high quality content

Why do we need data centres? "Privacy" is not yours, and this is demonstrated by the existance of these centres.

It's promising to see infrastructure development advancing in New Zealand. Go tech..

Cooling plant is not water fueled.

I could see Madi as a dominatrix outside of her professional life, in other words she looks like she knows her way round alot of 🍒🍆

Asset won’t last to years. Currently technical obsolescence occurs occurs within 20 years but this is likely to shorten

lol "I am not allowed to tell you where we are in Auckland". This info is available online so why make it sound that you have lucrative access to a location that no one else is aware of? CDC has 2 locations in Auckland. Silverdale (29/31 Highgate Parkway, Silverdale, Auckland 0932) and Hobsonville (32 Westpoint Drive, Hobsonville, Auckland 0618)

amazing interview your content just keeps getting better!

Too big to fail then, hey? No, really - do let us put all our security in one basket.

Everyone from Auckland is now trying to figure out where it is 😂

My thoughts are, data is the new digital oil. my investments would be in the energy they need to run these data centres. They wouldn't tell us how much energy they use, some AI data centres are using 10 x the amount of a normal data centre, ones in America are talking about having there own mini nuclear reactor. Who is going to update the Auckland power grid?

CDC sounds like a natural partnership with Central Digital Currency

Good content mate. I did my part with that 1.1b I did $100 👍

Thanks Madison. I'm an individual shareholder of Infratil and it's helpful to get a peek into the philosophy that drives their decision making. This is where your questioning and analysis really shines. What I would appreciate after these interviews is for you to end with a pertinent summary and perhaps a personal view of whether the future is positive or otherwise for the organization concerned. You have sufficient experience now not to be wary of forming your own opinion and sharing that with your audience.

You guys see the money you can make. We just see all the power and water that will be plundered by your company to run services that will take more jobs from kiwis. Much like a parasite.

Great topic, thanks for that coverage. I'm a bit concern with the power consumption and cooling system. Our power production is struggling to keep up with the demand. So why Auckland? South of south island would have been more judicious for cooling efficiency and therefore more power efficient. Also rather than relying on the grid only, (generators are just a backup) a CDC in the countryside could partially generate its own power through wind-turbines and solar.