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@@TCASCATA Hey, I don't know what's inside Union Audio mixers. I suspect that they will be different than Omnitronic. It's best to check it yourself and decide what mixer makes YOU happy.

​@@mixersinside I wish I could try one before buying. Cheers

@@TCASCATA i see that Union Audio has promising distribution opportunities so maybe you will be able to test it soon. Good luck!

@@nandobelt8687 yes, i had DJR400 for repair and i've seen the internals. DJR400 is very different from Condesa. It's IC based, most circuits (phono preamp, EQ, summing amp, headphone amp) are based on UREI1620. DJR400 also doesn't have output transformers, the balancing there is IC based using THAT chips (same sollution as Mastersounds Radius). So yes, Condesa and E&S are very different inside.

Condesa > 400 sound wise? Thank you

@@nandobelt8687 you will find a lot of sound impressions on the forums. All of them are subjective personal opinions and i recommend making you own opinion based on listening to both mixers. I would say that soundwise i heard a lot of good sounding parties on Condesa and E&S as well as bad sounding parties on those mixers. When choosing a mixer it's important to also be aware of what's going on in the whole signal path and being aware of the character of mixer you want to choose and fit in. Hope you will figure out how to check those mixers, good luck!

@@QRS365 thanks for watching. All the information provided can help you with making your own choice. Also don't forget to use your ears when choosing a mixer!

@@mixersinside I think I'll go with the nuo

@@СтефанАтанасов-у5ы interestingly there is no difference, but I've only measured it for 1kHz.

@@mixersinside I believe that there will be such in the low frequencies such 80 and 40 hz. And probably, thats why we can hear it like extended frequency response :) it’s my thought only :)

@@Bigger-Circuitry-Bigger-SOUND thank you for commenting. If you're familiar with my channel you obviously know that i'm here to comment technical sollutions, not the sound. I never said Condesa sounds bad for a single second of my video, and i even agreed while commenting the words of the maker that it for sure may sound pleasant. Regarding the costs it will be possible to make it much cheaper by changing the design to a more mass production suitable one. If you think that things like through hole parts and hand assembly can make a difference then i advice you to stick to Condesa and pay the price for their hard work. Again in my video i didn't say anything that would show that Condesa mixer is too expensive. I said that i disagree that electronic components that this mixer is made of make this machine more costly than other mixers and i'm suprised that nobody so far made a good sounding, cheaper discrete mixer (and it is possible to do it). Regarding your challenge i'm not interested, especially to work with through hole technology - i prefer to work with SMDs.

@@mixersinside Man you can suggest technical solution ONLY IF YOU BUILD SOMETHING till than you only SPEAK. PROVE YOU WORTH BY BUILDING YOUR STUFF BETTER THAN OTHER BRANDS or limit your self to share info not opinions, opinions create expectations and if you don’t build a better solution you result in a LITLE BOY EXALTED TO SHOW OF WHAT HE HAS STUDY AT SCHOOL TO SATISFY THE EAST EUROPEAN PROUD SICK EGO. as an East European man to another East European man i suggest you to be careful of that attitude as it will not bring you so far. cheers

@@Bigger-Circuitry-Bigger-SOUND thank you for expressing your doubts. I try to present mostly facts but it's hard to not express opinions at all. My opinions are based on my experience with electronics which consists not only of making devices but developing the products in bigger, less boutique company. I agree with you, that proving everything by making it on your own would be the best. I hope that in the future you will have opportunity to both play on mixer made by me and buy a low cost discrete mixer that will sound very good from the company that will decide to do it.

@@mixersinside you do a great job if you open and just share info what is inside with ought opinions that can easily trick un experienced people but by giving opinions you can influence un experienced audience and do a huge harm to small companies. Mehdi is a “hero” and a treasure that he manage to build in a resonable price a 100% all Through Hole Hand build Discreet Point to Point Wiring for all those people that cares about and there is no good fir your marketing in harming other companies it just back fires! I hate SMT and i can prove you that in terms of sound (sound is a phisical thing which is percived and not visualised) it is far less pleasing than Through Hole Discreet. now let me give you some examples where Theory Measurements failed to how sound was perceived. - Bozak 2DL is made with of the shelf components of the era and is still the most pleasing sounding mixer despite his very high THD (bozak has a THD higher than Condesa) -Moog Minimoog made with far cheaper components to save on costs than the modular also with a topology circuitry bug and it is still the most beautiful sounding Monophonic synthesizer no clone has achieved the depth of the sound like the original. - ARP2500, ARP 2600 blue marling / gray mini again cheap components of the era full of circuitry errors and NOTHING NOTHING in the WORLD SOUNDS AS MAGICAL AS THOSE MACHINES you was right to criticise that Condesa should use the same branded components like in the ISOLATOR through out the entire circuitry (their costumer deserve it) but to be honest Bozak was made with cheap components too you should point out this too. Why Condesa costs, because it is an insane hand labour work with Discreet point to point wiring and you know it and is dishonest to point out just the cost of a single non branded Capacitor to trick the viewers, people pay for the human passion and love of building something with hands (not every one is just a pragmatic good enough whatever)! As an older guy with a bit more life experince than you i recommend you to create bridges and not distractions you should be inspired by Condesa and if you are capable build something better on top of it. If you would have made this video showing how you would have build your own version of Condesa all through hole point to point discreet but with even better components you would have gas my respect and my money (i bet you have study electronics to make a living). cheers

@@Bigger-Circuitry-Bigger-SOUND i get your point of view. Please note, that i didn't comment sound of Condesa. All the words i have used in the light of high THD were suggesting that it can result in pleasant sound. Regarding THT vs SMD - we can argue forever cause we have different points of reference. Many great sounding mixers let them be warm or transparent (UREI 1603, MasterSounds Radius, Rodec MX00 series) are based on SMD parts. Most modern devices also use SMD parts (signal from your mixer runs through many other elements like amplifiers, AD converters etc - they also reproduce sound). Through hole (THT) and surface mount (SMD) is the difference in mounting as the name implies, and using SMD parts doesn't indicate that sound quality compromises were made. Some of the very fine audio components are available only in SMD nowadays. This technology helps to reduce lead inductance, loop areas which results in better signal integrity that leads to lower noise pickup and better stability of the circuits. It also helps to mount the parts in cheaper and more effective way without any quality loss. If you say that THT sounds better i can believe you or not, this is your opinion i respect, but there are no scientific reasons for using THT.

@@nightspeeder czyli kreując swoją opinię na jakiś temat kierujesz się luźnymi skojarzeniami?

@@mixersinside Napewno czarny mixer wyglądał by ładniej . 20 lat temu grałem na Behringer djx700 i wiem po wyglądzie że to ten sam rodzaj taniego aluminium. Miałem również mixer Vestaxa oraz Unitry/ Radmor i aluminium było o wiele lepszej jakości. Plus za analog VU, minus za kąt nachylenia. Ale czekam na twój przegląd, bo nie powinno się oceniać książki po okładce.

@@duczmal wwa

@@thisoldhouz thank you for sharing your perspective. As a technical reviewer I don't take into account things like customer service and subjective sound impressions. I'm happy about your positive experience with Condesa brand.

I had an empath for about a week. It was the coldest most sterile mixer I have ever heard.

@@deejaytracksuit88 please watch my Bozak AR-4 video to find out more about what THD is and why sinewave is used to measure it.

@@cowboyhank456 you can find out exactly how to do it in my Rane MP2016S video.

Get a fresh one out to him. I know you two have some minor beef but these videos are peoples only source of scientific, unbiased reviews that focus on hardware, thd (for what it’s worth) and build. Way too many silly reviews out there talking about how one mixer sounds great and another sounds bad etc which is useless information given the nature of sound and how we perceive it. We need more deep dives like this. Put your quarrels to one side, do it for the people 🙌

@@s_9878 I agree. I'll contribute $10 to the shipping cost. It will be a lot more but if more people pitch in it won't cost much.

Honestly man, I hope you get rich. You have done a lot for DJ culture and I respect how you answered your critic. You are a boutique small business in a very niche market and having been successful is strong testament to your work. A lot of people who work for corporations don't understand how expensive and time consuming running an independent business is. Keep Spinnin'!

As a Condesa user and very very picky customer when it comes to SOUND (because is all about the SOUND), i can guaranty that in every party / sound system we mounted Condesa it has impressed everyone with the Sound it produced “despite those graph measurements”! Despite the measurements (tho still better than the original Bozak) this mixer brings smile to the audience. There is always place for improvement and Mehdi is very receptive and acts swiftly to critiques especially here was useful for him to start using only branded components. As a happy customer and with a pretty expensive studio i consider to have paid a very fair price, for the SOUND IT PRODUCES and for the heroic labour that is to build a Through Hole Discreet Point to Point Wiring, also hand build with passion and love. If sound for you is “Just Good Enough” and don’t care about human craftsman building your mixer, well an Omnitronic is good enough. by the way SMT circuitry NO THANKS ( if you know you know )

​@@Bigger-Circuitry-Bigger-SOUNDI've used this mixer before and seen riggers run em. They sound amazing the only concern to me is the caps. If they've improved then np but especially when it's a ball ache to fix you don't want them blowing up fast. My soundcraft mixer has high harmonic distortion but sounds fucking amazing when doing mix downs. All down to preference at the end of the day. Personally hate all these modern digital mixers. Awful pre amps and you gotta keep an eye on your gain staging constantly. If I've got headroom I wanna be able to run the gain hot, get in the reds and bask in the distortion! Digital almost always sounds terrible when redlining it's what puts me off them. Even w sub mixers monitoring levels.

@@mikeheel2568 yes, coming soon.

@@mixersinside I bought it and I'm waiting for delivery...

@@wawajanvier i had problems with identifying jfets in this one.

@@mixersinside ok thanks and keep up the good work, so interesting 🤘